Making a 2 Piece Vise For The Milling Machine
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
- G'day everyonem
In this video I will be making a 2 piece vise for the milling machine. I have an upcoming project where I will be machining a big 300x 150 x 50 piece of steel and the current vise will not be big enough. Clamps will not be enough, and since I have a space piece of that bar stock on hand I decided to make a 2 piece vise.
A 2 piece vise is not something that is new to me, I have made 2 of them previously, but they both suffered from a small amount of jaw lift, which really freaked me out. I have made a few changes to that old design to hopefully reduce that from happening. This project was quite a long one to make, went through a lot of coolant and took the life out of several endmills. I hope you enjoy the video.
#machining #millingmachine #visebuild
Timestamps
0:00 - Introduction and Design
4:12 - Cleaning Up The Stock
6:10 - Machining The Top Part Of The Moving Jaw
11:34 - Machining The Lower Part Of The Moving Jaw
16:04 - Machining The Locking Balls
17:54 - Machining The Fixed Jaw
19:46 - First Assembly
20:35 - Making The Soft Jaws
21:49 - Final Assembly and Test
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Instead of using the hacksaw, I think ThisOldTony had a Kung Fu chopsaw which might be worth mastering?
This is a different guy youre talking about
That Kung fu chop is obviously fake, everyone knows that.
But he could use that WD-40 method with the hair dryer.
@@smashyrashyoh dude 🙄
@@MrMACProgrammer 😂
As TOT says: It's all in the hips.
Always love to see the hacksaw
I like your design more than ToT's for the downforce angle screw. Very nice improvement. Um.... What about a couple of slightly oversize holes on the movable upper jaw to permit installing and tightening the hold down bolts for the base part? Or would it allow too many chips to get into the works? Plugs perhaps? I'm thinking that it would permit you to square up and not touch the fixed end which is the one that should be setting the squareness since little though it might be the movable jaw can "float" and end up out of square.
Seems like an interesting idea
2:17 thats a maker warrior moment, Amazing Job Man
I made a set of the ThisOldTony vise and I was very surprised by how well the work for oversized material like this. Great video as always, thank you for uploading!! 👍👍
I bought a Milwaukee portable band saw and attached it to a pre made mini bench. life changing, really and does not eat into my work space and its portable! take care.
Yep, saw Adam Savage using a Dewalt. Checked the Tool shop Milwaukee or Makita. A few other yt maker chs use them too. Done my fair bit of manual hacksawing and feel it every time I see him doing it.
Its really awesome to see the quality of your projects increase as time goes on. This is one beautiful vice that im sure will see plenty of use in its lifetime. Thank you for sharing, huge respect to you.
It's so inspiring to see what can be done with so little. Great work!
that's acually what i find very funny in so many people"oh you cant do shit whit small chinese-machines,you need to spend atleast 15.000€ to get a decent lathe and mill"-i guess those people have never tried
@@hedning003pictures/videos often cheat. Of course Chinese stuff work for a certain level. But often lack accuracy and finish. Both on machines and parts. But I think it's all down to expectations and experience.
@@OmeMachining i beg to differ,at work i use a big colechester lathe and a maho mill amongst others,at home i have an rf31-mill an a Chinese benchlathe,whit some modifications and pretty cheap upgrades,it is quite possible to get good results whit them aswell- i would not do 8hour/day-jobs in them,but putting out precision parts whit nice finnich is absolutely doable-but surely i would like to have that colechester at home instead of my 1500€ Chinese lathe
I see you've been watching the same videos as me lol. I like how your design combines the best of both designs. Absolutely brilliant. As long as the machine has enough tightness in the table that your part doesn't come out wonky.
A nice complement to the milling machine!
Your(not so) little milling machine is certainly getting a great workout.
Brother, you are in need of a bandsaw! Great video by the way! Thank you!
any reason why you used the ball nose mill at 10:50 before drilling to depth? i would think drilling first would put less force on the end mill and reduce the chatter
Was just about to make the exact same comment. I would have thought using the drill all the way through would have made it way easier for the ball nose to grab, especially where it is nearly cutting parallel to face.
Dunno. I think I was just more focused on getting the dimple cut and forgot that it needed a 12mm hole.
@@artisanmakes that happens.
I like that you make so many of your tools, gives me ideas for when I need to take on large parts in my small tools.
Great work and you created a beautiful piece. When your budget allows for it, I would recommend a power bandsaw. If not a free-standing unit with an arm maybe a portable bandsaw mounded to the wall. They can really cut down on the arm work when hacking pieces off of larger parts. I look forward to future projects and thanks for posting.
Well done and, yes, the Haiku chopsaw is pretty slick !
Great Idea and Nice Work. Thanks for Showing
Excellent work. Very impressive!! I'm sure T.O.T. would absolutely approve and appreciate your design...awesome!!
I can absolutely recommend a Makita 18v portable bandsaw. Works for me. I love it
The Milwaukee M18 Deep Cut bandsaw is a portable bandsaw - but for men.
LOL
Bravo, very nice build, will be glad to see it in action.
You've probably thought about it but you should really get a bandsaw, I don't have a lathe or mill but I did pick up a harbor freight drill press and bandsaw and they both are worth their weight in gold for making a lot of holes and cutting a lot of stock.
Well done
I also plan to copy ThisOldTony's vice when i find a block of metal big enough.
7 months on, and still the best 2 Piece Vise on the Tube. I want one.
A set of cheap HSS aliexpress counterbore cutters would be a great investment, I use mine all the time
That a big project, need a tool make a tool, great work! Thanks for sharing.
Brilliant, thanks
Great build, thanks for sharing
Cheers
Excellent!
That's a beautiful new vise! Tony would be proud
Nice little vise. We shared this video on our homemade tools forum this week 😎
nice work! 👍
Great video. I made a crude version using heavy angle iron and applied the clamping pressure with two bolts running in nested nuts that get pushed back into the fixed jaw as the pressure is applied. The moving jaw is just a plate of steel.
For your design I would have been tempted to drill out the stock with a pattern of holes to save life on the milling cutters.
Great watching your projects.
Very nice.
Very good!
Very nice!
love that ball turner :)
Nice, I am looking forward to your take on a large fly cutter, enjoyed, cheers!
Very cool design 👌
Nice work as always 👍👍
Very nice work.
Nice work !
Good job 👍
nice job !
cheers ben.
2:48 That's why I bought 230mm angle grinder :P
Amazing work. Again :)
Looking forward to the big 8 inch fly cutter build!!!
Ball turning using the boring head is genius. I’m definitely copying that!
It’s a good little design. Got way more use from it than I ever imagined
Nice vice!
Nice work mate!
fancy lathe and mill, but no band saw. probably the most used tool in my shop. great investment. super useful for cutting thick stuff like the stock for this vise. great work though. love your vids.
Great job the mill seems to be working really well.👍👍👍👍👍
The new table vise looks good. Await to see how it performs.
Fun one :)
Cool 👍
What a great build. I just got a mini mill and this was an issue i came into.
5:50 loved the "This Old Tony" reference 😂😁
Love your content bud got myself a seig 2.7l just like yourself. Cant find a two piece vice to fit to save my life so will make my own.
Nice vid, a clever design well executed.
Thank you! Cheers!
I like it 👌
This Old Tony would love to see this art! You're his successor! Change my mind!
Damn that's a nice vise.
So, when's the bandsaw coming? :D
Joke aside, you should really look into it, a proper bandsaw is really worth it, especially since your machines can tackle the chunky stock now. A sawblade is also way more efficient at cutting than a grinding disk.
Oh, and on the split I built for my CNC router I had 3 parts, all with boltholes to clamp them down on the t-slots. First you'd tighten the fixed jaw and the screw block for the moving jaw and after clamping the workpiece you'd tighten the moving jaw to the table as well, as a way to avoid jaw lift.
Also I recommend making holes into your movable jaw through which you can tighten the bolts to the table without having to take it apart every time
We need to chip in a few bucks and get this man a bandsaw.
We talked about this before. The hacksaw is his shtick. He is in Aussie land. Damn dollar is the shits compared to some other countries. Everything is so damn expensive. He should prostitute himself to Vevor
Bloody hell, it really is time you got a saw!
Really inpressive parts you manage to wring out of these machines!
I went way too cheap on my mill vice, and i am now a citizen of jaw lift ville.
It's all relative. My cheap ass vice is still 1000% better than trying to hold it by hand...
@@DodgyBrothersEngineeringha, yes that's also true :)
ohh man what a tease
They are expensive, but, I highly recommend the Makita portable bandsaw and the Procut table. This combo is ~$1K, but well worth it in a little shop.
On today's episode of "Artisan Makes Refuses to Buy a Metal Cutting Bandsaw".....
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He's got an Australian powered hacksaw already, no need
@@procyonia3654 OH!!!! SNAP Good one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
for real.
Building a cut off saw would make a great video!
Bicycle wheel fly cutter inbound.
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Great stuff as usual! Any chance for a shop tour video? I noticed that your shop is pretty small in youtube machinist terms (I'm moving into a 2m x 3.6m shop soon...), so I thought it might be interesting to see how you get everything you need in a small space. Cheers!
Maybe one day
Excellent work 👍👍👍 . Thank you for sharing. Take care of yourself 🇨🇦 PS it is painful watching you hacksaw chunks of metal😭😭😭😭
The little hacksaw that could
You're really doing some nice work. Thanks for the video.
Great video have you thought about machining some slots in the top of the moving jaw to get to the bolts that hold it down to the table easier
built a similar one ,the solution i came up with is a 15 degree sloped dove tail to combat jaw lift
when encountering chatter sometimes its a good idea to lower the rpm way down. Especially when doing those high engagement cuts like with the big ball endmill.
I would have run it at 300 RPM maybe even less
Now you need to fit a couple of pieces of key stock the the bottom that are a slip fit into the t-slots. Never have to indicate them square to the table again. Fit them to your regular vice too.
MUCH longer and thicker clamping plate under the moving jaw of that drill vise and extending as far forward as you have room for with the vise closed empty will make it a lot more rigid and lessen jaw lifting/tilting a lot..
A nice looking job. I was surprised you did not section out the first piece with the angle cut off wheel. It would have given a reusable slab. I don't think putting a tee slot bottom would guarantee alignment. The slot sides are not machined, so are irregular.
the timing, lmao
now i 100% need to do one of these for the robot faceplate i'll be getting material for on tuesday
baseplate*
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With the upgrades to the mill and it now being pushed more than it was when new, do you think a spindle bearing upgrade is on the cards 👍
2:43 should have paid This Old Tony to come and do his notorious 1 Inch Punch. He'd whack that stuff out in seconds.
Someone buy this man a horizontal bandsaw.
Have you thought of adding key slots and removable keys to the base so it mounts square all the time?
continually amazed you don't have a bandsaw, even a portaband
YAY
Sand paper folded in half inbetween the jaws and part can make it useful again the little mill vice
Instead of using aluiminium inserts for steel I recommend you to try DCGT inserts for steel. These are sharp and leave a nice finish.
Those are DCGT inserts I was using. They’re just sold as for aluminium on the pack
Nice build, man. You must have made kilos of chips on this one.
Certainly a bin full of them
I have to admit that looks pretty nice. Not the be that guy but it looks like a single M8 bolt at 45° clamps the piece down. If you were to make this for a larger milling machine with more torque I’d suggest going with M12 or M14 threads for clamping and more than one if possible.
Yeah its M8, purely for that fact that it was the longest cap head I had.
@@artisanmakes sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do 👌
Nice work brother
First time viewer and love the video. A quick comment on other options you thought about before choosing the process would be perfect.
Milling the large chunks @18:00. Did you think of other options like drilling a chain of holes to reduce the amount of material to remove with the cutter? Your thoughts on the options and why you chose the one you did could help us newbies. Thanks.
Might work. I think ive done that before when I first got the mill but I dint think it saves a huge amount of time. I only tend to do this when I need to machine long slots that go through the part
@@artisanmakes Or... do not cut that at all.
Just leave it as solid block (added rigidity as bonus), and counterbore for bolts that will clamp it to the table.
Nice work as always. Do you think the locking ball will work over time? I´m afraid that ,after some use, it will not "bite" anymore... It might need some sort of key, maybe just a pin and a slot...
With the amount of use that this vise will get I personally am not too concerned with it causing an issue. I have about 5 or 6 big parts to machine in the near future. I think it would take a bit of use for it to be a cause for concern, it indeed that bite wears down. Cheers
Hi. On this vise you can bolt jaws outside and put the work piece on top of movable jaw. 🙂
Never mind. ☺
Love the videos. Where are you getting the huge chunks of metal? Where I'm at buying those pieces would cost hundreds of dollars.
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A lot of your chatter comes from your high rpm. When you start getting a lot of chatter try slowing the rpms down a bit. Also, roughing endmills will hold up a lot longer with lower rpms even while removing a large percentage of the diameter of the tool. Hope this helps
Yeah cheers but this mill has little torque at low rpm so you have to run it a little higher to get the greater efficiency from the motor
We miss the hacksaw 😢