Oh wow… I literally bought a Get tribe book today. 🤘🏻whatever your view of the Get, they were absolutely characterful and quite possibly a very good example of Garou society. Red talons and Black Furies are no different in their absolutist views, as are a LOT of the older school tribes…They just line up better with modern ones. The Get are brutal. Unsurprisingly stoic and proud. All characteristics that will ultimately cause a downfall, but damn… it’ll be spectacular. As it indeed was. Nathaniel, this was an amazing video. And makes me proud to be a supporter. Much respect mate. 🇬🇧🤘🏻😊
Love the Get because they are so flawed. It's like playing a Greek Hero who must rise to their better nature, or be dragged into damnation of self by their base natures. Good vid!
Excellent work on the history of the mighty Get of Fenris my friend! They are one of my favorite tribe of WTA because they have the ferocity of their progenitor Fenrir. And Fenrir (which I mentioned in the previous video about the Fenrir) is my third favorite mythical monster wolf because he's the most powerful wolf in Norse mythology and father of both Skoll and Hati. And the gods of Valhalla are scared of him too. And he made many appearances in pop culture like Highschool DXD, the Final Fantasy franchise, Smite, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, and God of War Ragnarok too! And many more in the media as well as the movie Thor Ragnarok.
I'm personally a big fan of the idea that they eventually just got so pissed off, and so disillusioned with the rest of the Garou Nation, that they said "fuck it we'll do it ourselves stay the fuck out of our way."
@@TheMapleTable basically, if you want to get a little bit more complicated it's kind of a mix between that and insane motivation/urgency as far as I can tell. It is so important to the Fenrir that the war be won and it happens now that they could care less at this point what is in their way or who disagrees.
@@Razamaniac to be clear I am not on w5s side, but I imagine because at this point they are so rabid with urgency that they would sooner simply murder anyone that could even slow them down with their weakness. I don't think they've fallen to the wyrm, I think they're just so frenzied that it would ruin a party to introduce one, because it would logically probably be trying to kill the rest to get its way 24/7 and that's not cool.
@@tzimiscelord8483 Neither am I ... the thing about Fenrir is that while easy to give into their bloodlust, they are also too stuborn to fall into their instinctual necesities, more than every other tribe. While I get the whole idea in W5. I just can't cope with it. The shadow Lords are far more possibl to fall to desperation than the Fenrir beacause of their failure taboo.
They have ties to extrimists and some of the original source material says some of the group joined the German socialist party in the late 1930s...though that same material also says they were hunted and destroyed by their own kind as well.
@@Chatedh the nazi zwaztika means the ''antisun'' (reverse turn of the clock) aka anthelios, well and Fenrir is the eatter of the sun or something in human mytholgy, a sign of unmaking, related to the sun as well. not to mention that one of the nazi quotes was ''we will blacken out the sun'' or something In my version of W5 all tribes are split between good and evil, so you can play all 12 tribe, AND have them as antagonists at the same time. Problem solved ! 😆
Odin the 4th gen gangrel vampire is probalby still buried in the Caern under tons of rock. in that Caern which is still probably protected by the Get. also as for garou fighting with Odin, not surprised Odin made abominatuions and garou ghouls. or hey these tales are probably muddled, maybe the fight against the so called wyrm Odin was not a wyrm spawn but it was a fight for territory and influence in the area.
Same here! they operate closely on a morally grey side like assassin's and a bit of corporate mixed together I loved this table I was doing with a group of friends where someone's Shadow lord won a battle of wits against a Get and a Silver fang
@@panam6074 I could see the Shadow Lords get indeoendant 1st that Get the Fenrirs. After them nearly all Silver Fsngs, Get the Fenrirs and Wendigos and maybe Black Furies will try to get out of the Garou Nation to do their stuff in their way. The members that they stay is because are too loyal to their respective packs (Is very OOC from The Get turn alround and attack their previous pack members without being tainted)
I just got into this series and I decided that my first member of the Garou Nation would be from the Get of Fenris. But it looks like that won’t be possible 😭
Older editions are very much available. I literally bought a Get tribe book today for my old edition collection. EBay is a trove for it at the moment but it is getting a bit pricey.
So, as someone new to Werewolf, after reading through the 20 anniversary rule book and what's been revealed about 5e, I'm genuinely curious why the Get are the way they are. I was under the impression that werewolves were even more separate from humans as vampires, so why would a tribe model themselves against any human culture?
More like humans bastardized the reality that Garou lived. Garou are able to see and live the truth of these myths that humans can merely speculate about. A Garou can poof into the underworld and have a chat with Cerberus while humans can only read about Cerberus from a book that may or may not contain drops of facts. And Garou have to interact with humans in some way, so of course some human culture would get sprinkled in with Garou culture.
The Get always had strong and colorful history that made them stand out amongst the other tribe’s mythology. W5 changes will never be able to keep the Get down, it's just too good of tribe to die. The original fans will keep w20 alive as most are not happy with this upcoming edition. Great video as always.
You can always play a Get in W5. It will have all the info you need to play one. You can even play them as a kind of Edgy Neutral Tribe, or even part of the Garou Nation if you want to. Nothing in W5 looks like ''you have to play it ''THIS WAY''
@@imperatordrakon6488 😆, wanting only healthy women to bear your children = misogyny why that makes me laugh ? Even mice do that 🤣, misoginist nature for the purging !! 🤣🤣🤣
@@Razamaniac That's the plan. First need to see all the changes gameplay wise, might not be fun for some players. Should not be a problem if follows Forsaken rules. Wait and see is all we can do now.
Ok, if you were a Frost Giant Woman and a werewolf came to propose to you in full Crinos, what your reaction would be ? -Ermmm sorry .... I am engaged ? Maybe ? 😓 Also on my late Fernrir Metis character my story teller tried to force an extra muscle beefstake lady as mate, thankfully I used his own quotes against him and changed that. As mentioned Fenrir are not beyond of admiring beauty along with strength and wisdom, don't forget that one of Great Fenris blessings is the depiction of a wolf dancing with maidens. And last but not least Fenrir hate the sidhe, because they used their hispo as mounts for a thousand years, guess how they got tricked on that 😏. Wolf *cough cough* maidens *cough cough*
the get are like the red talons: they aren't wrong at all. the world is wrong, and has no place for them. this is why i'm fine with them being characterized as antagonists to player characters, since they represent a purity of purpose that is very difficult for a modern person to identify with. by abhorring weakness, they never leave the path of glory and so see it's ultimate end.
Okay I know everyone is a bit divided on the whole exclusion thing, but I’m certain they’ll be added back in later on. After all, we were able to play other changing breeds in previous Werewolf games and they had way more reason to fight Garou than the Get. Honestly, I’m surprised the Get didn’t go crazy sooner.
@@TheMapleTable true as with all history. depends on the storyteller. heck Vampire history is very much suspect, as the older vampires can use dominate to alter memories of others
Personally while I had some fondness for the mythology of Fenrir, my personal experience with both Get of Fenris and Black Furies in games had left a bad taste in my mouth despite me just clocking it up to bad luck. Granted most tribes I'd played as were among Glasswalkers, Bonegnawers, and once a Silent Strider. Kind of liked those rare games where the storyteller allowed us to play the other changing breeds even if the madness of it was just off the walls. Edited: I'm still unsure how to feel about the Get being removed from the newest edition, but I suspect there might be foul play here. Either by lore or by behind the scenes in development.
Personally speaking I prefer to play the get of fenris because there's a direct connection to my heritage and mythology, they were motherfucking Viking werewolves and that's all that mattered lol. I'm to understand that the LARP community is pretty fucked up, but I don't claim any other get player without playing with them first.
I second that, but I would prefere a more Fenrir Wolf descendants originality rather than Viking wolves, I somewhat agree on the nationality removal of tribes, but I disagree with lack of traditionality
@@Razamaniac It confuses me like so werewolf numbers no longer matter you just become a werewolf then take a personality test to join a tribe that's odd. But I think plenty of people have the I'm a viking personality so it would work fine.
@@tzimiscelord8483 still, you know vikings are not considered scandinavian ancestors or something ? not to menton their rlligion because you know Fenris, Odin etc
@@TheUnnbreakable well, its part wolf instinct part human instinct, but to the extreme, as many things are with werewolves. Natural beauty, or ''beauty'' is a sign of healthiness we like it or not, not absolutely, but well its a criterium. And with the Get of Fenris is the quality that matters, not the quantity, still they fared better than the Red Talons and the Black Furies
Odin is supposedly a Gangrel 4th gen. vampire. and he is awake or in torpor in Scandanavia
Must have missed that bit
That Odin allfather is a vampire or not its at the story teller's discretion, in many cases WoD myths clash without further proof on who has the right
Oh wow… I literally bought a Get tribe book today. 🤘🏻whatever your view of the Get, they were absolutely characterful and quite possibly a very good example of Garou society. Red talons and Black Furies are no different in their absolutist views, as are a LOT of the older school tribes…They just line up better with modern ones. The Get are brutal. Unsurprisingly stoic and proud. All characteristics that will ultimately cause a downfall, but damn… it’ll be spectacular. As it indeed was. Nathaniel, this was an amazing video. And makes me proud to be a supporter. Much respect mate. 🇬🇧🤘🏻😊
I try to be timely
Love the Get because they are so flawed. It's like playing a Greek Hero who must rise to their better nature, or be dragged into damnation of self by their base natures.
Good vid!
Glad you enjoyed it
Excellent work on the history of the mighty Get of Fenris my friend! They are one of my favorite tribe of WTA because they have the ferocity of their progenitor Fenrir. And Fenrir (which I mentioned in the previous video about the Fenrir) is my third favorite mythical monster wolf because he's the most powerful wolf in Norse mythology and father of both Skoll and Hati. And the gods of Valhalla are scared of him too. And he made many appearances in pop culture like Highschool DXD, the Final Fantasy franchise, Smite, Assassin's Creed Valhalla, and God of War Ragnarok too! And many more in the media as well as the movie Thor Ragnarok.
Thanks glad you enjoyed
You're welcome @@TheMapleTable . And the Asgardians need some respect for Fenrir too!
Heart of the Forest has a splinter group of the Get called Vanir's Wrath so maybe they'll still be playable in some form.
yeah ... that was probably an early idea that will most likely be discarded as the development goes on
I think from what we have been told thus far... The get are not playable as characters since they are going to be protagonists
@@TheMapleTable but we can always change that 😁
I played get for years and yes, they were brutal, but they had honor
I'm personally a big fan of the idea that they eventually just got so pissed off, and so disillusioned with the rest of the Garou Nation, that they said "fuck it we'll do it ourselves stay the fuck out of our way."
Basically what happens in W5 lol
@@TheMapleTable basically, if you want to get a little bit more complicated it's kind of a mix between that and insane motivation/urgency as far as I can tell. It is so important to the Fenrir that the war be won and it happens now that they could care less at this point what is in their way or who disagrees.
@@tzimiscelord8483 yeah but why not remain player characters ?
@@Razamaniac to be clear I am not on w5s side, but I imagine because at this point they are so rabid with urgency that they would sooner simply murder anyone that could even slow them down with their weakness. I don't think they've fallen to the wyrm, I think they're just so frenzied that it would ruin a party to introduce one, because it would logically probably be trying to kill the rest to get its way 24/7 and that's not cool.
@@tzimiscelord8483 Neither am I ... the thing about Fenrir is that while easy to give into their bloodlust, they are also too stuborn to fall into their instinctual necesities, more than every other tribe. While I get the whole idea in W5. I just can't cope with it. The shadow Lords are far more possibl to fall to desperation than the Fenrir beacause of their failure taboo.
They sound very cool, I wonder why they’re removed from 5th edition
They have ties to extrimists and some of the original source material says some of the group joined the German socialist party in the late 1930s...though that same material also says they were hunted and destroyed by their own kind as well.
@@TheMapleTable oh okay
It's unfortunate, but the Get iconography was too close to nazi symbolism. Even their logo was a reference to it.
@@Chatedh the nazi zwaztika means the ''antisun'' (reverse turn of the clock) aka anthelios, well and Fenrir is the eatter of the sun or something in human mytholgy, a sign of unmaking, related to the sun as well. not to mention that one of the nazi quotes was ''we will blacken out the sun'' or something
In my version of W5 all tribes are split between good and evil, so you can play all 12 tribe, AND have them as antagonists at the same time. Problem solved ! 😆
they do kinda have a "kill the weak to feed the strong" vibe.
I miss the 90s. Too many nowadays are so easily triggered and offended. The Get shouldn't have been removed.
Odin the 4th gen gangrel vampire is probalby still buried in the Caern under tons of rock. in that Caern which is still probably protected by the Get. also as for garou fighting with Odin, not surprised Odin made abominatuions and garou ghouls. or hey these tales are probably muddled, maybe the fight against the so called wyrm Odin was not a wyrm spawn but it was a fight for territory and influence in the area.
I considere the Shadow Lords as the most ruthless Garou of all
Same here! they operate closely on a morally grey side like assassin's and a bit of corporate mixed together I loved this table I was doing with a group of friends where someone's Shadow lord won a battle of wits against a Get and a Silver fang
@@panam6074 I could see the Shadow Lords get indeoendant 1st that Get the Fenrirs. After them nearly all Silver Fsngs, Get the Fenrirs and Wendigos and maybe Black Furies will try to get out of the Garou Nation to do their stuff in their way. The members that they stay is because are too loyal to their respective packs (Is very OOC from The Get turn alround and attack their previous pack members without being tainted)
I just got into this series and I decided that my first member of the Garou Nation would be from the Get of Fenris. But it looks like that won’t be possible 😭
You will always be able to play older editions
Older editions are very much available. I literally bought a Get tribe book today for my old edition collection. EBay is a trove for it at the moment but it is getting a bit pricey.
You shouldnt worry so much, to be honest the community is really split on moving forewared, W20 will be alive and well for some time
Stay with the W20 editions
@Cannabis Dreams fun fact... I haven't been paid by paradox at all :p
So, as someone new to Werewolf, after reading through the 20 anniversary rule book and what's been revealed about 5e, I'm genuinely curious why the Get are the way they are. I was under the impression that werewolves were even more separate from humans as vampires, so why would a tribe model themselves against any human culture?
More like humans bastardized the reality that Garou lived. Garou are able to see and live the truth of these myths that humans can merely speculate about. A Garou can poof into the underworld and have a chat with Cerberus while humans can only read about Cerberus from a book that may or may not contain drops of facts.
And Garou have to interact with humans in some way, so of course some human culture would get sprinkled in with Garou culture.
The Get always had strong and colorful history that made them stand out amongst the other tribe’s mythology.
W5 changes will never be able to keep the Get down, it's just too good of tribe to die.
The original fans will keep w20 alive as most are not happy with this upcoming edition.
Great video as always.
Cant keep a good get down
@Cannabis Dreams is it really misogyny if you don't want the future mother of your offspring to be a weakling?
You can always play a Get in W5. It will have all the info you need to play one.
You can even play them as a kind of Edgy Neutral Tribe, or even part of the Garou Nation if you want to.
Nothing in W5 looks like ''you have to play it ''THIS WAY''
@@imperatordrakon6488 😆, wanting only healthy women to bear your children = misogyny
why that makes me laugh ? Even mice do that 🤣, misoginist nature for the purging !!
🤣🤣🤣
@@Razamaniac That's the plan. First need to see all the changes gameplay wise, might not be fun for some players. Should not be a problem if follows Forsaken rules. Wait and see is all we can do now.
I imagine whoever churns out the get crunch on storytellers first for the get is in for a nice little earner.
You are likely right
Ok, if you were a Frost Giant Woman and a werewolf came to propose to you in full Crinos, what your reaction would be ?
-Ermmm sorry .... I am engaged ? Maybe ? 😓
Also on my late Fernrir Metis character my story teller tried to force an extra muscle beefstake lady as mate, thankfully I used his own quotes against him and changed that. As mentioned Fenrir are not beyond of admiring beauty along with strength and wisdom, don't forget that one of Great Fenris blessings is the depiction of a wolf dancing with maidens.
And last but not least Fenrir hate the sidhe, because they used their hispo as mounts for a thousand years, guess how they got tricked on that 😏. Wolf *cough cough* maidens *cough cough*
High standards equals misogyny now?
Yeah, I don't get that vibe from Fenris either.
@Cannabis Dreams all the character in the story wanted was to find the best possible mate and some how that was labeled misogyny by our video host
the get are like the red talons: they aren't wrong at all. the world is wrong, and has no place for them. this is why i'm fine with them being characterized as antagonists to player characters, since they represent a purity of purpose that is very difficult for a modern person to identify with. by abhorring weakness, they never leave the path of glory and so see it's ultimate end.
Okay I know everyone is a bit divided on the whole exclusion thing, but I’m certain they’ll be added back in later on. After all, we were able to play other changing breeds in previous Werewolf games and they had way more reason to fight Garou than the Get. Honestly, I’m surprised the Get didn’t go crazy sooner.
The fan base is vocal enough about it so I can see them adjusting W5 in the future
seems like the story about the battle of the ural mountains may be much muddled. since Odin is still alive.
there are differences between vampires history and werewolf history
@@TheMapleTable true as with all history. depends on the storyteller. heck Vampire history is very much suspect, as the older vampires can use dominate to alter memories of others
Nothing wrong with trying to be the Strongest
Depending on the method I suppose
@@TheMapleTable more with how you use it
I am very intoxicated what is going on
were talking werewolves and im trying to paint a picture as to why the Get of Fenris were removed in the new upcoming werewolf game.
@@TheMapleTable I don't know why you replied to this as infact I was very intoxicated, but I enjoy that you did so regardless
@@xmlviking12 gotta guide you down easy from intoxication to sobriety :p happy drinking for the next time lol
Personally I don't care much for the Get they were never my favorite tribe but it's nice to know enough of their history thank you Maple 🍁
Personally while I had some fondness for the mythology of Fenrir, my personal experience with both Get of Fenris and Black Furies in games had left a bad taste in my mouth despite me just clocking it up to bad luck.
Granted most tribes I'd played as were among Glasswalkers, Bonegnawers, and once a Silent Strider. Kind of liked those rare games where the storyteller allowed us to play the other changing breeds even if the madness of it was just off the walls.
Edited: I'm still unsure how to feel about the Get being removed from the newest edition, but I suspect there might be foul play here. Either by lore or by behind the scenes in development.
Personally speaking I prefer to play the get of fenris because there's a direct connection to my heritage and mythology, they were motherfucking Viking werewolves and that's all that mattered lol. I'm to understand that the LARP community is pretty fucked up, but I don't claim any other get player without playing with them first.
I am upset they didn’t include The Get in this edition. I get it that all things Norse are probably not politically correct anymore now though…
Getting rid of viking werewolves was dumb
I second that, but I would prefere a more Fenrir Wolf descendants originality rather than Viking wolves, I somewhat agree on the nationality removal of tribes, but I disagree with lack of traditionality
@@Razamaniac I mean it's not really nationality, Scandinavia is a region with like four or five countries.
@@Razamaniac It confuses me like so werewolf numbers no longer matter you just become a werewolf then take a personality test to join a tribe that's odd. But I think plenty of people have the I'm a viking personality so it would work fine.
@@tzimiscelord8483 still, you know vikings are not considered scandinavian ancestors or something ? not to menton their rlligion because you know Fenris, Odin etc
@@TheUnnbreakable well, its part wolf instinct part human instinct, but to the extreme, as many things are with werewolves. Natural beauty, or ''beauty'' is a sign of healthiness we like it or not, not absolutely, but well its a criterium. And with the Get of Fenris is the quality that matters, not the quantity, still they fared better than the Red Talons and the Black Furies
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