SCP-009 | Red Ice (SCP Orientation)

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  • Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025

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  • @Akeari
    @Akeari 4 года назад +702

    Yo when [REDACTED] happened in this [REDACTED] it was hilarious. [DATA EXPUNGED]. But ESPECIALLY when [REDACTED] went in [DATA EXPUNGED]. Great [REDACTED]! I liked and [REDACTED]!💕

    • @fiery7214
      @fiery7214 4 года назад +22

      Beautiful

    • @teethhaver3548
      @teethhaver3548 4 года назад +49

      ✨[REDACTED]💖✨

    • @tmseh
      @tmseh 4 года назад +23

      Why are you so *[Expletive Delete]* about such a *[Ibid]* use of a very valid *[Redacted]* phrase commonly applied to *[VOID]* secured information?

    • @Akeari
      @Akeari 4 года назад +26

      @@tmseh HOW [REDACTED] YOU SAY [REDACTED] TO ME NEVER [DATA EXPUNGED] EVER AGAIN 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

    • @tmseh
      @tmseh 4 года назад +5

      @@Akeari Lol! 🤟

  • @comical_comidean1647
    @comical_comidean1647 4 года назад +222

    I like that he goes in order 1-10

  • @digitalhammer4373
    @digitalhammer4373 4 года назад +85

    I know that part of the fun of scp is not knowing everything but it really kills my enjoyment when it feels like ever 3 sentence is 90% centered

  • @Seraphim-h3q
    @Seraphim-h3q 4 года назад +435

    The redactions don't seem to add much to the sense of mystery on this scp.

    • @simplylight4916
      @simplylight4916 4 года назад +40

      Yea there’s too many

    • @if7723
      @if7723 4 года назад +76

      @@simplylight4916 Well yeah, it's a first gen SCP. The community didn't really get into it until 4 digits.

    • @johnowens7876
      @johnowens7876 4 года назад +13

      They add to the skip-ability though for sure.

    • @simonwyzik8661
      @simonwyzik8661 4 года назад +8

      I think it may be related to The Red Pool

    • @tmseh
      @tmseh 4 года назад +14

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  • @Icewind007
    @Icewind007 4 года назад +77

    This report seems to be suffering from amnesia.

  • @hurlock24
    @hurlock24 4 года назад +164

    early scp in a nutshell: This comment has been [ R E D A C T E D ] because [ D A T A E X P U N G E D ]

    • @mers800
      @mers800 4 года назад +10

      [REDACTED] [REDACTED], [REDACTED].

    • @scp--297
      @scp--297 3 года назад +4

      ■■■!

  • @k.s.2935
    @k.s.2935 3 года назад +19

    I forgot how much this SCP (and some of the early SCP's) irritated me with all the unnecessary redactions, despite that it is an interesting SCP. Still enjoying this channels videos as I recently came across it, your doing a great job with it.

  • @QuarkGamingLLC
    @QuarkGamingLLC 4 года назад +33

    To be fair, this was mone of the first few SCPs written, the guy probably thought about it as creepypasta and thought "If everything is redacted that means its spooky scary"

    • @theghosttm8245
      @theghosttm8245 4 года назад +2

      It was rewritten. Idk when it was but it has since that SCP-3023 was not on the file last I read it.

  • @SmackHah
    @SmackHah 4 года назад +46

    I love this channel. Its like other audio scp channels but with some visual aid

    • @SmackHah
      @SmackHah 4 года назад +5

      After his like, I'd die a happy man.

    • @Slur_Boy
      @Slur_Boy 4 года назад +4

      If you like scp channels with visual aid watch the volgun

    • @SmackHah
      @SmackHah 4 года назад +2

      @@Slur_Boy Already subscribed with him. Thanks.

  • @spugnoxngubcux9801
    @spugnoxngubcux9801 4 года назад +30

    I like that an ice-based SCP with the ability to spread by contaminating normal water is given the designation number of 9

  • @Vanceeeey
    @Vanceeeey 4 года назад +46

    *Frozen kool aid that turns water into kool aid*

    • @sebastiann3017
      @sebastiann3017 4 года назад +2

      You mean : Frozen [REDACTED] that turns [REDACTED] into [REDACTED]

    • @Vanceeeey
      @Vanceeeey 4 года назад +3

      @@sebastiann3017 yes but some people will not understand

    • @sebastiann3017
      @sebastiann3017 4 года назад

      @@Vanceeeey ikik i was just messing about

    • @originalstickers
      @originalstickers 3 года назад

      @@sebastiann3017 *Ahem* you mean [REDACTED] that turns [REDACTED] into [DATA EXPUNGED].

  • @iainballas
    @iainballas 4 года назад +145

    about 5 minutes in I was like "If I hear one more static redaction, I'm done."
    ten seconds later I was done...
    I know it's not you, it's the author trying to sound mysterious. Bad writing from a community that is hostile to new writers these days.

    • @SCPOrientation
      @SCPOrientation  4 года назад +60

      I'm going to work on making the sound of redactions less invasive...

    • @iainballas
      @iainballas 4 года назад +43

      @@SCPOrientation Nah, the sound is fine. It's the frequency and locations of them that bothers me.
      I have the same issue with SCP-447. Saying "We can't tell you what happens" doesn't really increase the mystery, it just feels like lazy writing or an attempt to leave holes open for future people to fill.

    • @carbide1968
      @carbide1968 4 года назад +6

      @@SCPOrientation stop redactions all together they add nothing but anger to your listeners.

    • @DDtankxD
      @DDtankxD 4 года назад +17

      @@SCPOrientation The sounds were not an issue at all! The issue was definitely on how "vague" the story feels from so many redactions ~ Neverthless, thanks for putting out this content for us! I still enjoyed it lots

    • @iainballas
      @iainballas 4 года назад +4

      @@DDtankxD ​ @Matthew Poole Yeah, the couple times I tried making comments to such an effect on the SCP wiki, they got downvoted to oblivion or deleted by one of the mods. Just twice. I take it the established writers and community don't like criticism. Still, the entire project and stuff is appealing enough I'll keep coming back.

  • @TheDespicableme87
    @TheDespicableme87 4 года назад +17

    The illustrations of scp 007 in the thumbnail image. Is the coolest I've ever seen.

    • @HeraGan
      @HeraGan 4 года назад +4

      Maybe it’s because of the ice, i heard ice is pretty cool

    • @TheDespicableme87
      @TheDespicableme87 4 года назад +2

      @@HeraGan lol ikr

    • @abrahammesrajecorrea2349
      @abrahammesrajecorrea2349 3 года назад +3

      It gives off a "The Thing" feeling. That's for sure.

  • @lazygizmo
    @lazygizmo 4 года назад +24

    I'm offended that this story has words in my data expunged and redacted story.

  • @electrobob992
    @electrobob992 3 года назад +7

    Definitely an entry that deserves a rewrite to make it more... Interesting.

  • @Three_Sevens
    @Three_Sevens 4 года назад +46

    Caution: there are too many [redacted] in this [redacted]. I really wanted to [redacted] but all the [redacted] have made this [redacted] absolutely [redacted].

  • @coonus1
    @coonus1 4 года назад +20

    You got the voice down bruh. Respect ✊ I like the SCP 3023 reference boss! Holler back girl 😝

  • @gonkdroidincarnate4237
    @gonkdroidincarnate4237 3 года назад +7

    [DATA EXPUNGED] is my favorite [REDACTED] So mysterious. I lover when they were talking about [REDACTED] [DATA EXPUNGED] [REDACTED] I really was interested when they were talking about [REDACTED], [REDACTED], [REDACTED and [REDACTED] So intriguing! [DATA EXPUNGED]

  • @larswong7810
    @larswong7810 4 года назад +6

    When you have a half thought out idea for an scp article. Once upon a time [REDACTED], there was [REDACTED], [REDACTED] happened, during [REDACTED], in the end [REDACTED].

  • @Velventian
    @Velventian 4 года назад +13

    SCP-0674-Apple-Alpha Biscuitsbear "The REDACTESPUNGE" Anomalous Property of removing any data and information until all context is gone.

  • @OfficialMaddeck
    @OfficialMaddeck 4 года назад +23

    For me, redactions is pure lack of creativity or Fear of making no cientific sense. I bet there are SCP's as complex as this one that dont even come close to this many redactions.

    • @mrpeanut6267
      @mrpeanut6267 3 года назад

      I hope the writer will rewrite some of the old scp

  • @b.iquitoso9695
    @b.iquitoso9695 4 года назад +16

    That guy just drinking his coffee.

    • @SCPOrientation
      @SCPOrientation  4 года назад +9

      I love coffee.

    • @Veteransolo
      @Veteransolo 4 года назад

      @@SCPOrientation I prefer tea, or beer, or whiskey.

  • @Giovanni-vn8ew
    @Giovanni-vn8ew 3 года назад +2

    3:24 damn it really does assimilate that Data Expunged

  • @wazzy87
    @wazzy87 4 года назад +3

    I believe the author took this idea from a Kurt Vonnegut novel. It has the same property of "ice 9" which has property of water but when in contact with regular water turns everything to ice. It was the cause for end of the world in the novel.

  • @dominiqueishmaiellehibiona4980
    @dominiqueishmaiellehibiona4980 4 года назад +5

    I just found your channel and you just gained a new sub
    keep 'em coming! 💜

  • @Alik_Odess
    @Alik_Odess 4 года назад +7

    3:25 it's piss isn't it?...

  • @TheFieH
    @TheFieH 4 года назад +12

    Can't wait till u get more notoriety

  • @cyngucytrolax4425
    @cyngucytrolax4425 4 года назад +3

    ah yes my favorite drink
    *DATA EXPUNGED*

  • @INFOMAN735
    @INFOMAN735 3 года назад +4

    Dude your voice and narration is really good

  • @easyb242
    @easyb242 4 года назад +7

    You have my sub, good fresh scp content

  • @ITSMRFOXY
    @ITSMRFOXY 4 года назад +4

    This man deserves more subscribers!

  • @themalcontent100
    @themalcontent100 4 года назад +2

    This is the first instance I have seen where a later scp happened before one of the first thousand.

  • @MrGermandeutsch
    @MrGermandeutsch 4 года назад +4

    Why do I vividly remember Creepypastas about this SCP from around 10 years ago?

  • @jacqualinetowns4658
    @jacqualinetowns4658 4 года назад +56

    Ur overusing the redactions, im already confused 6mins in.

    • @ArturerroPL
      @ArturerroPL 4 года назад +42

      Well, it's not HIS work, he is reading it as it was in the original article. But I agree, the redactions, especially in earlier SCPs, can be overused. See SCP-354, "The Red Pool", and then you will realise how bad it sometimes was.

    • @jacqualinetowns4658
      @jacqualinetowns4658 4 года назад +2

      @@ArturerroPL I actually learned more of it on different yt channels tho. ._.

    • @jacqualinetowns4658
      @jacqualinetowns4658 4 года назад +3

      ruclips.net/video/p_SJplP-RQU/видео.html

    • @mariaj.bayarri8024
      @mariaj.bayarri8024 4 года назад +7

      THIS IS A REWRITE OF THE ORIGINAL VOLGUN MADE IT ON ITS EARLY VERSION AND THE ARTICLE IS WRITTEN ON THIS WAY.

    • @coolgamer3646
      @coolgamer3646 4 года назад +1

      @@jacqualinetowns4658 that's an old one it has been rewritten

  • @loganxl11
    @loganxl11 2 года назад +1

    Obviously Cassidy wasn’t no holla back girl

  • @coreym162
    @coreym162 4 года назад +4

    They did a piss poor job covering up this is related to The Red Pool in the report. I find that a hilarious Foundation oversight xD

  • @redjirachi1
    @redjirachi1 3 месяца назад

    This is one of those SCPs that is simple, yet effective. Red reverse water that corrupts any water it comes across

  • @Novum_YT
    @Novum_YT 3 года назад +1

    Anyone that enjoys this should check out 'Cat's Cradle' by Kurt Vonnegut. A lot of fun similarities between this and the 'Ice 9' formula found in Cat's Cradle.

  • @tomthestone1470
    @tomthestone1470 3 года назад +2

    This should be rewritten to remove all the unnecessary [REDACTED]

  • @willheffner7797
    @willheffner7797 4 года назад +2

    Awesome vid!

  • @nerissaholland7044
    @nerissaholland7044 4 года назад +5

    You got some orientation in that (redacted)

  • @ADayinWhite
    @ADayinWhite 3 года назад

    Yeah... That [DATA EXPUNGED] at 3:26... I was around a while back for _The Jar_ . Someone definitely tried that with this SCP.
    There's always that one guy...

  • @jellydragon1293
    @jellydragon1293 4 года назад +2

    There is a place in the world where red colored water exists naturally

  • @architect11
    @architect11 4 года назад +3

    So this is basically Ice IX from Cat's Cradle

  • @unknowncommenter643
    @unknowncommenter643 4 года назад +3

    Great vid!

  • @tylermorgan1473
    @tylermorgan1473 4 года назад +3

    maybe it's the spear that stabbed christ, and the mighty queen spider has the real one. So saith South park

  • @MMike08
    @MMike08 4 года назад +1

    Whitemore, the legend

  • @the_Acaman
    @the_Acaman 3 года назад +1

    How can scp-009 be in liquid and solid state in the same environment, at the same time? Shouldn't it only be found in liquid form while in an ICY cave according to it's description

    • @a.w.1499
      @a.w.1499 3 года назад +1

      [REDACTED]
      but yeah

  • @robertcarter4163
    @robertcarter4163 4 года назад +5

    who's the narrator??. sounds alot like clancy brown. is it him??

  • @originalzo3873
    @originalzo3873 4 года назад +2

    Hmmm another Zscp channel but in enjoying your delivery... suscribed

  • @illusionist1872
    @illusionist1872 4 года назад +6

    How am I supposed to form a story in my head when you keep censoring out the details

    • @symounmiguelbago7265
      @symounmiguelbago7265 3 года назад

      It was not this guy that censored the details, it was the author that did it and this guy just red it for us in case some of us don't know where to find the SCP files.

  • @MasterMadaraXD
    @MasterMadaraXD 4 года назад +1

    wait isn't there some logic errors in this one, or at least with the pictures used? When the red ice/ water behaves opposite to regular water, then in this envoirment where it has been discoverd the red Ice should have been in a liquid state instead of a solide state as environmental temperatures should have been below 0°C I assume.

    • @BulbasaurLeaves
      @BulbasaurLeaves 3 года назад

      I was wondering that too. Maybe frozen 009 generates heat on its own and stays frozen in a feedback loop. That would explain why all the containment measures are designed to keep it as a liquid.

  • @docmagnus6890
    @docmagnus6890 3 года назад

    It's my headcanon this was one of the scarlet king's attempts to cross into the prime dimension, but all that got through was a droplet of his sweat (scp-009) lol

  • @mic2348
    @mic2348 4 года назад +1

    Why is your voice so calming brov

  • @BobVahn
    @BobVahn 4 года назад +5

    HEy! i have write my own awesome new scp , the item is SCP- [REDACTED] aka. [DATA EXPUNGED], class [REDACTED] description [REDACTED], special containment procedure [REDACTED] , the end.

  • @mactiger98
    @mactiger98 4 года назад +1

    Okay, maybr i'm being dense,but still why the hell they keep it liquid? Wouldn't it be easier to just keep it a block of ice? And maybe aim a gun at it in case it turns into a spider again i guess? I just miss the point of this containment

    • @mactiger98
      @mactiger98 4 года назад

      @Spooky i mean yeah but:
      A. Way more hustle with machinery to keep it cool
      B: Air moisture would touch liquid as well
      C: I don't think the organization ever cares about moving SCPs as long as they can put it once in a cell. Freezing it over once it's moved wouldn't be much of a problem either
      The SCP is good, but i really fail to understand it's containment

  • @LlorDrei
    @LlorDrei 6 месяцев назад

    It's interesting that the MTF Beta-7 is referred to as Haz-Matters. Most now refer to it as Maz Hatters.

  • @amandadollrey3479
    @amandadollrey3479 3 года назад +1

    This spc honestly always made me so uneasy

  • @phatdookie4207
    @phatdookie4207 3 года назад +1

    What were all the SCPs mentioned in this, it was like 5 or 6 other SCPs, right? Like even the flashback.

  • @mphmph1198
    @mphmph1198 3 года назад +1

    SCP-009 sounds an awful lot like ICE-9 from Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle.

  • @ChadtuvaQueen
    @ChadtuvaQueen 3 года назад

    I love it when [KRRRGHKR] talks about [REDACTED]! IT’S SO [TV NOISES] COOL!

  • @Xizilqou
    @Xizilqou 3 года назад +3

    The only things that I've ever seen redacted in any SCP document were made that way due to the author's laziness and apathy. The only things that should be redacted are names and other things that make sense to be kept confidential.

  • @ScrapYardAbomination
    @ScrapYardAbomination 4 года назад

    Dr. Bright making popcicles out of this.

  • @colemanbrenner6555
    @colemanbrenner6555 4 года назад +1

    Hope to see more like SCP 10 and 48

  • @filiptomek11
    @filiptomek11 3 года назад +1

    How would this SCP be introduced in SCP-5000's reality:
    Small amounts of SCP-009 was placed in large bodies of water, such as lakes, ponds and (the biggest) red sea (in case of red sea, all ways to ocean was blocked). Putting SCP-009 into ocean was proposed, but never did, because it would lead to much bigger catastrophe than what was intended. SCP-009 have however very large number of deaths, about 400 000 people died due to SCP-009.

  • @JustaSimplefact
    @JustaSimplefact 4 года назад +1

    Nevermind cold fusion, this is the ideal containment protocol for SCP-2966, infiniTP. FINALLY they can have a functioning bathroom in that facility...
    PS: Really tired of SCP authors getting cold fusion wrong. It has NOTHING to do with keeping the process cool. It is called "cold fusion" because the fusion process would theoretically take place at drastically lower temperatures than normal fusion (aka the temperature of the sun.) Low Energy Nuclear Reaction is the actual name for cold fusion and has nothing to do with temperature. (Obviously temperature is involved but not in the simplistic way implied by many of these authors)

  • @swlad4338
    @swlad4338 4 года назад +2

    Why is everything (REDACTED) this may as well be (REDACTED)

  • @andreibaciu7518
    @andreibaciu7518 3 года назад

    Everybody gangsta until [Data Expunged] starts [Redacted]

  • @knightrideriii6146
    @knightrideriii6146 4 года назад +4

    my man, how am i supposed to enjoy the story if everything is redacted lol

    • @mers800
      @mers800 4 года назад

      Don't know, enjoy it?

  • @Hornet219
    @Hornet219 3 года назад +1

    What do you guys and girls think would happen if SCP 009 got in contact with SCP 054?
    Would she become some kind of red ice elemental? Stay as water but become red? Be immune?
    It is these questions that keep me up at night......

  • @random_name4594
    @random_name4594 3 года назад

    The writer of this scoop used the redaction to hide the secret that they weren’t really that creative.

  • @WizardClipAudio
    @WizardClipAudio 3 года назад +1

    Yo, if the author had chose ‘yellow snow’ instead of ‘red ice’, I think my sides would be splitting right about now!

  • @happyvirus6590
    @happyvirus6590 3 года назад

    Imagining it comes into contact with cold-blooded animals.

  • @geezyercheese2855
    @geezyercheese2855 3 года назад

    Ahh yes I love myself a nice tall glass of data expunged

  • @ton44048
    @ton44048 3 года назад

    Sound like a strange matter. It turn any matter into strange matter.

  • @FirestormDDash
    @FirestormDDash 3 года назад

    The fact nothing more was said about the tunnel is a shame.

  • @vulgarblvck2888
    @vulgarblvck2888 4 года назад +1

    I don't think the redactions are as extreme as people are making it out to be. I mean, there were 4 or 5 that had to do with the effects of the SCP itself that could've been avoided but that happens with these sometimes. It's not unusual. Everything else is standard redaction. First names, doctors, locations, sites, dates, and expunged data during loose conversations with scp foundation personnel. I feel I get the idea of 009 and can leave some room for imagination on the effects of an alternate universe ice phenomenon?

    • @thedairylord7861
      @thedairylord7861 4 года назад +1

      I don’t hate this scp but I will admit this is a little to much redactions and data expunged
      I mean yeah it makes sense but the author could of toned it down a little bit

  • @milan-8463
    @milan-8463 4 года назад +1

    Connor: *HMM*

  • @polski_dezerter
    @polski_dezerter 4 года назад

    I have a theory that if not for the fact that it infects water when contact is made would make for a Great coolant

  • @bmorebread8993
    @bmorebread8993 4 года назад +1

    Is this the liquid from scp 354

  • @jaylu7021
    @jaylu7021 4 года назад +3

    This scp can go redacted themselves

  • @Sina189overlordessOfdarkness
    @Sina189overlordessOfdarkness 3 года назад +1

    It Reacted With Animal Jam And Made A Glitch Assesory!

  • @BreadMan434
    @BreadMan434 4 года назад

    Man, that sure is a lot of *[DATA EXPUNGED]*

  • @NerdyAngel1989
    @NerdyAngel1989 3 года назад

    You know I don’t mind the redacted parts but in some stories I’ve noticed it’s obvious the writer just didn’t know what to put.

  • @thespider7898
    @thespider7898 3 года назад +1

    It sounded like you said "hate resistant alloy", which sounds quite anomalous

  • @VikingVern7
    @VikingVern7 3 года назад

    Do SCP-1384. The only other two videos on it are extremely hard to listen too.

  • @bigdogbigben
    @bigdogbigben 3 года назад

    A little overkill on the [REDACTED] [DATA EXPUNGED]

  • @Xiiki
    @Xiiki 3 года назад +1

    This reminds me of the thing.

  • @shubhverma9313
    @shubhverma9313 3 года назад

    Isnt the coolant that floods the container also liquid based ?

  • @suicune2001
    @suicune2001 2 года назад

    It's like if Suicune contaminated water instead of purifying it.

  • @vicious-pi3rd
    @vicious-pi3rd 4 года назад

    I wonder what would happen. If you throw chunks of this in scp-354..

  • @redlady120
    @redlady120 4 года назад

    What happened to Agent Cassidy?

  • @Waltham1892
    @Waltham1892 3 года назад

    Ice-009?
    Does Dr. Vonnegut know about this?

  • @xd-ff6pu
    @xd-ff6pu 3 года назад

    When I put ice in my fruit punch it turns red

  • @derpionderpson1424
    @derpionderpson1424 4 года назад +2

    So the premis here is actually a bit weird, we all understand the idea, hot is cold and cold is hot to this water, right?
    But here is the kicker, why is waters melting point the same? Yes our temperature scales are based on water, but that’s because this is relevant to us, just like our measurement are based around lengths relevant to us, however on a universal scale the melting point of water is an incredibly weird thing to base a temperature scale on since the difference between the core of the sun and the coldest regions of space are so far apart it makes waters range look like a single dot... and it’s not even at the center...
    So are this universe actually reverse of ours with water as the center for some reason OR is the physics even weirder and any substance would have its melting point be the point around which the temperature range is flipped...
    Ether way I guess we should be happy it was water that came through and not something like mercury...

  • @reallynot.
    @reallynot. 3 года назад +1

    Ayo I really like these stories! I work at Site [REDACTED] and I am learning more about the foundation. I am moving sites! I am going to site [REDACTED] now!

  • @A.Lost.Astronaut
    @A.Lost.Astronaut 4 года назад +1

    *Cassidy wasn't a holla back girl I guess lmao*

  • @kingpest13
    @kingpest13 3 года назад

    So it's Vonnegut's "ice nine".

  • @keykey9973
    @keykey9973 4 года назад +5

    SCP that can mimic voices the one that's completely red and babies human and identical from a different universe I think that's the same university so basically animals from that universe can survive

    • @namegeneric9344
      @namegeneric9344 4 года назад +4

      Scp-939?

    • @chomperms
      @chomperms 4 года назад +1

      @@namegeneric9344 that is it

    • @Akeari
      @Akeari 4 года назад

      Huh?

    • @theghosttm8245
      @theghosttm8245 4 года назад +1

      I believe you’re talking about 939. The channel does the SCPs in numerical order. It’ll be awhile until they get to 939

  • @thevaliantshadow5411
    @thevaliantshadow5411 3 года назад +1

    This probably isn't the best place to ask this. But how do they decide what number an SCP is? They mention SCP-354 in this, but this is SCP-009. Is it just random?

    • @R0GU351GN4L
      @R0GU351GN4L Год назад

      Unless the numbers were assigned afterwards and the records were changed to indicate which SCP they were talking about. This would make sense, if they weren't coded at the time, adding codification to the file of the incident would allow other readers to trace what anomaly was being discussed.