Jason. As a newcomer who's taking his foundation license in November I've spent every evening the last 3 weeks trying to get my head around repeaters & hot spots, and you just nailed them so thank you. I used AM/FM/SSB back in the late 70's and early 80s so this time warp is hard for someone like me to understand and you laid it down beautifully. One thing that does puzzle me and I'm guessing many newcomers feel the same way is sourcing groups or rooms. Is it that you just look around and find groups you get on with or is there some way of sourcing them by interest? Or am I completely missing the mark with all this?
I'm a noob and just purchased a dmr radio. I keep hearing about hotspots and was wondering if I need one to use my radio when it comes in and what they are. Thank you. You answered several questions I had.
As a newb, I really appreciate this video - simple overview in terms I can understand. Thank you for not going straight to “how to build out a raspberry pi” like so many other supposedly introductory videos. I do have a couple questions though… 1. Why aren’t hotspots compatible with Yaesu and Wires-X? And 2. What exactly is a reflector? Thanks!
Wiresx is owned by Yaesu and a proprietary network so they only allow their own equipment to connect to it. A reflector is simply a talkgroup or a room
New to ham radio... trying to get APRS and DMR up and running. I just got an Anytone 878+ and I am trying to get it up and running. I live in rural WV and have realized I am going to need to get a hotspot. This was good to help me better understand some of the hotspot terminology and what to look for. I am looking at multiple timespots, ethernet & wifi capable... what are some other things that I need to be looking for?
Great peice Jas' 👏 You simplified this and nailed it buddy. Guess the way the hobbies going now. Still love the analoge gear myself... Id be a bit concerned about the info of the privacy in uploading a network if that makes sense . Simple fella on the side of caution ,is me budd
I am a new newbie, just took Tech test today. So, as I understand this video, the D-star, DMR, etc. will now work with an analog system, is that correct? And, BTW, it was your three-part Tech videos that got me over the hump I was having, sincerely appreciate the work you and Chris put into them.
I'm an old new ham. Due to "life" I've been out of radio for a couple decades. Now that I'm back, my bride bought me an Icom 7300 and a Yaesu FT3D. I have a LOT to learn about both radios and what's happened during my Rip Van Winkle. I've been active on EchoLink for a while and would like to connect via radio rather than computer, for a few reasons. 1) so I'm not stuck at my desk, 2) so I'm actually using my radio, not just internet chatting. Using a hotspot is that possible/reasonable?
Welcome back. Those are both great radio choices. Yes you can use a hotspot with the FT3D to connect into various DV mode networks, such as Yaesu System Fusion, DMR and maybe DSTAR. The hotspot will require an internet connection, like an Echolink repeater does.
I use an OPENSPOT2 and a Yaesu FT70 . C4FM digital voice on 440 to the Openspot2. It links via wifi (usally my phones hotspot) to DMR Talkgroups online or to YSF Reflectors. Thoe DMR TG and YSF Reflectors are often connected to repeaters around the world as well as other digital groups online SW Washington while mobile to ther DX3L and a Manila philippines net is common.
I have a good one for you... I have a number of projects and work is taking up a lot of my nights but if you wanted too take a little time and put a quick vid together that shows how to setup the hotspot (pi-zero) to allow a Yaesu 991a to do DMR via the YSFTODMR and vice versa features that would be very helpful. I am told this can be done....
Great explanation !!! Say there isn’t a repeater in the area is there a way by talking into the hotspot you can come out on a specific repeater and it be translated back into analog where people listening don’t have to be in digital mode in order to hear the transmission?
What would you use a dual time slot hotspot for? Duplexing? When would you use it for example? Good info Jason!! I am getting ready to set up YSF on my FT3D, and most in our area are on DMR around here.
So Jason i wish to be able to talk on multiple digital modes p25, brand meister, dstar, DMR. I don't have a digital HT or mobile, so as I understood you. You have to have one. It doesn't convert the analog to a digital format as I was under the impression that it did. So some of the locals in my club are using P25, others local to my region are using Dstar and DMR+. Whats your recommendation on HT and digital voice Hotspot. Also is there a Hotspot to program to switch between one mode and the other quickly(on the fly)?
Ok...... But how do you use them??? How do you program them, how does your radio get into it? On what frequencies?? Are you rock bound to only one repeater and if you want to go to a different repeater or talk group you have to reprogram it each time??
Good questions. I've answered all of these in previous videos, though. This specific video was for very-new folks who were asking me questions. I can do some follow-up and Part 2 or Part 3 to this one topic though.
I never have seen your videos before,you have a way of repeating yourself many times and really never got to the point of what a hotspot is....a gateway to the internet to be used to inhance communication for digital radios,dmr,,dstar etc....you never elaborated on how it was used...73
@@johnlane7856 if you've never seen my videos before, then how can you tell i never get to the point? I explained in simple terms what a hotspot was in this video. The video wasn't intended to go deeper than that. If you'd do a bit of research on your own, you'd find the info that you are seeking.
So can you connect to an iPhones hotspot with the ham “hotspot” so it has internet access? Then connect your HT like the Kenwood d75 to the ham hotspot when not in areas with repeaters but have cell coverage?
Hi Jason. Good hotspot overview. Can you access these internet radio nodes directly on windows 10 pc? This would be great if you are a Tech starting out.
I apologize for this real noob question. I have had a Ham Radio license since 1990. Digital voice was not available. Packet radio was just coming into fashion. I then dropped out of the hobby for a while. Can you answer a simple question for me. Can I use a Ham Radio Hotspot to use my Yaesu FT-530 analog HT to talk on Digital Voice through the hotspot?
Can Dstar communicate digitally through a repeater instead of hotspot? Keeps like cheating what the uniqueness of radio is. I mean, I can just use my phone to communicate via WiFi if I wanted to
I'm curious about advantages of Duplex to Simplex and Simplex to Duplex Hotspots. What are the benefits of them? For final, i'm sure you are going to explain these but can we increase the output power of Hotspot "LEGALLY" (In the Earth, not in specific country)?
But duplex, do you mean dual timeslot? Those are basically only good for DMR because DMR uses both timeslots. Yes you can increase the power on a hotspot, but most of them are low power due to the raspberry-pi or main computer board only providing low power.
Ok i got it. The duplex hotspot useful for double timeslot. I searched a little about it and "Technically" some rf amplifiers avaliable for double antenna(duplex?) hotspots(tx and rx antenna different). These rf amplifiers increase the output power from 0.1W to 5W. I don't know, in my country amateurs can't own a repeater. This option may work for my situation. Thanks for again. 😅@Ham Radio 2.0
Hello Jason, found your hotspot video very helpful - thank you. As a newbie with tech license, I'm finding a lot of misleading crap out there w.r.t. using a RPi to "control" a Ham radio. QUESTION: My HT, FT-65R, can't be used with any "microrepeater" because the FT-65R doesn't have the capability to do this, correct ? Thanks again.
Hi Jason, thanks for answering several questions for me. Hot spot seems like a great idea. Only have one fusion repeater nearby. Also, thanks for the encouragement about the general exam, should be ready to take that soon. As a new ham I really enjoy your channel and have benefited a great deal. Thank you. KE8RDW
Hi my name is Donald I have a ic-7100 I like to ues it for d-star want is the best hot spot for D-star I am new to hot spot Can you make it pvt net work
Thanks for at least a few "User-freindly" (i.e. How to "from the box-put-togeather-a-Ham to internet ). Other are verbadge, themselves, techno facts, why's of information "forever.". Again, You the only one, not trying a movie stare ane/or genious in one or a few videos. :O)
With the right hardware can a dmr hotspot on say a pi4b pull dual duty and also be used with my hf radio for ft8 and other hf digital modes at he same time?
With all the Raspberry Pi sold out or insanely expensive, is there a way to create an MMDVM using a Windows or Linux laptop? I have 5 computers lying around going to waste. It just seems like everything needs a Raspberry to function. I don't get the obsession with Raspberry when we should be able to use any computer to do the same thing. :)
..is there a device like this that *doesn't* require internet? Something that can take one radio and let it push n pull in other digital voices? Like, take a DMR radio and let it catch YSF?
Yes unless you have a repeater in your area. But if the internet is gone at the repeater too, it’s just a conventional repeater that have the coverage of that repeater only.
The concepts of transmitting your radio to a hot spotted network connection 20 ft away seems like it's defeating the point. At that point why not just have a mic connected to the internet transmitting to the networks? Is it not just VoIP with extra steps?
So to summarize, this "digital hotspot" is simply a device that provides a wireless path from your radio to the internet, like a bridge, so that your radio can connect to other remote digital nodes that your radio currently supports. But it doesn't solve the REAL problem. We simply have TOO many digital protocols for such a small group of users. I spent about $1k on a 991a because many of our repeaters support Fusion. But it can't do DMR or any other protocol, AND, I'm frustrated to find that no one is using the Fusion capability at all because it requires the other person to have Fusion! MANY operators own radios that do not support Fusion!! Thus with SO many protocols, digital becomes a virtual wasteland of untapped capability instead of a viable alternate method of communication. A much better solution would be a device that can translate digital fusion, or DMR, DStar, etc. to the other common protocols. Our radios need to be interoperable, but since those industry digital standards do not seem to exist, it's time for someone to make a device that breaks down these stovepipe barriers. Unfortunately current patents will probably prevent this.
We lost our way as a hobby as soon as we failed to understand the meaning of the word "wireless" and follow other digital internet based commercial options. Reminder , Anyone can talk around the world using the internet ( no big deal anymore, nothing special, many hams are there using only their phone or computers ), Yet, only some of you will make the connection wireless, that means, from one point to the other , antenna to antenna , overcoming noise, propagation problems. location , available space and much more. Nevertheless, if wires and Hotspots is your hobby, than good for you, go for it , we are here learning , just like everyone else and as such we won't go breaking anyone's delusions of wireless communications here. yes, we do work digital, but point to point, simplex, local repeater only, antenna to antenna, some still having respect to the core of our ( once called ) wireless hobby. Let's have fun and keep it real.
That is the beauty of DV modes in Ham Radio. You don't *need* to have a hotspot or internet connection to use them. They are still real radios. But connecting them over the internet does expand their capability.
@@HamRadio2 Real radio is great, after all, Wireless is our hobby ( look it up), BUT using the internet ?? how low will this wireless hobby go ?? and because " the internet does expand their capability ( DV Mode) " ??? . Let's use the wired phone because it will expand our ability to communicate ( this was tried in the past when linking repeaters, no joke, "Dail a repeater" this great idea was obviously voted out as not being part of a TRUE wireless system ) those who were pushing this idea used the very same logic as your argument " expanding their capability " or, some of us hams can not put up a radio/antenna, buy a radio, lack of propagation ( and ability to deal with it ) as well as many other excuses galore. yes, it was sad. As we see it, we might be talking about another kind of wired/cell phone communication-based hobby ( when the internet is used as a magical " antenna" to the hotspot. lol ), here we have something NEW altogether ( and there is nothing wrong with it ), this internet-based communication special interest group is growing and it is great, a lot to learn and do, but should come under a different classification. "Wired digital Communication" comes to mind, well, anyway, certainly not Wireless, time to be honest with ourselves as a group. Agree or not, Thank you for your answer ( and informative videos, they are a great help and super source of info ). Have a great weekend, stay safe ( and please don't hate us ( lol) for having a different view and outlook ).
@@che59v You Sir, are one of the reasons that Amateur Radio did not grow for years!! What a closed minded way you look at things. Have you "ever" helped a new, interested person get into this great hobby? T With the attitude that you seem to have, I would think that if you did, they probably didn't stay interested very long. Technology changes and hobbies change along with it. I hope you don't spread your negativity with those that may have an interest in getting started. Just my opinion of your comment. Well, ya know what they say about opinions. Maybe it's just me.
You sir make wrong assumptions about other people, why won't you ask first before writing down B.S about others ? attacking one personally won't make your views any stronger, the oposite is true here. Bobby, please LOOK IN THE MIRROR before talking S*&^T about others, you see, it's people like you who give this hobby a bad name. So yes, we helped many people in this hobby (and still do), we provided lessons, helped with building antennas radios converters as well as other WIRESSLSS digital projects, all in the spirit of fun and learning. We still believe that a wireless hobby should be wireless, we have no issues with digital progress ( computer Eng on this side ) for as long as we keep true to this wireless hobby. Anyone who has a digital phone can talk to anyone on the internet those days, not a big deal, BUT we are making magic happen with antennas and not Internet wires that are used as antennas connecting to the world. Our hobby is wireless ( last time we looked ).
@@che59v Not a HAM at all so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but your argument makes sense to me. I was looking at getting in to DMR first but now it just seems like a very complicated cellphone...which I already have. You're simply just replacing your Garfield rotary phone with a DMR radio....unless I'm missing something. OVER
Neither of which this hotspot will do. This hotspot connects VOICE through and RF connection between your radio and the hotspot, over the internet to someone on the other end.
Getting back into ham radio after 15 years, this was a great episode.
Thanks!
Just posted this video on Siouxland Hams, Thanks Jason for all you do to positively promote the hobby and happy having you a member of our page!!
Jason just passed my Tech and waiting for my call sign. Wanted to say that I really enjoy your videos and have learned a ton. Thank you brother
Concise, quick and flyover level of information. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks Jason. great job. I've learned alot in a short time from you.
Thanks!
Jason. As a newcomer who's taking his foundation license in November I've spent every evening the last 3 weeks trying to get my head around repeaters & hot spots, and you just nailed them so thank you. I used AM/FM/SSB back in the late 70's and early 80s so this time warp is hard for someone like me to understand and you laid it down beautifully.
One thing that does puzzle me and I'm guessing many newcomers feel the same way is sourcing groups or rooms. Is it that you just look around and find groups you get on with or is there some way of sourcing them by interest? Or am I completely missing the mark with all this?
did you pass?
@@DaveTibbetts Yes and 3 months later the intermediate. Taking my time of the full as 50W is more than needed. Full license just for band privileges.
I'm a noob and just purchased a dmr radio. I keep hearing about hotspots and was wondering if I need one to use my radio when it comes in and what they are. Thank you. You answered several questions I had.
As a newb, I really appreciate this video - simple overview in terms I can understand. Thank you for not going straight to “how to build out a raspberry pi” like so many other supposedly introductory videos. I do have a couple questions though… 1. Why aren’t hotspots compatible with Yaesu and Wires-X? And 2. What exactly is a reflector? Thanks!
Wiresx is owned by Yaesu and a proprietary network so they only allow their own equipment to connect to it.
A reflector is simply a talkgroup or a room
Got my Tech license 2 weeks ago thanks to your 3 part series. Thanks!
Ham Harder, my friend!
@@HamRadio2 learning curve feels more like rock climbing
Enjoy your channel and material
Thanks
Thanks for the solid info. I'm slowly warming up to the idea of digital modes. Also, I listen to you on podcast mostly. 73's
Finally! LOL
Has anyone ever told you you are the greatest Elmer ever?!
Yes. Sometimes they're even serious, but not usually
Bob Greenberg W2CYK really a helpful person..
Very informative, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
New to ham radio... trying to get APRS and DMR up and running. I just got an Anytone 878+ and I am trying to get it up and running. I live in rural WV and have realized I am going to need to get a hotspot. This was good to help me better understand some of the hotspot terminology and what to look for. I am looking at multiple timespots, ethernet & wifi capable... what are some other things that I need to be looking for?
Great peice Jas' 👏
You simplified this and nailed it buddy.
Guess the way the hobbies going now.
Still love the analoge gear myself...
Id be a bit concerned about the info of the privacy in uploading a network if that makes sense .
Simple fella on the side of caution ,is me budd
I like the idea of my HT being used around my office without consuming a ton battery power with it trying to get out to the local repeaters.
Great video‼️My question is: Do you know of a good book that address all of the Digital aspects of Ham Radio that you would recommend ❓
Nice job, Jason. You are a steely eyed missile man.
You cleared that up. 73s
Hi Jason , interesting video . Can you buy these put together or do you have to build one ? Thanks .
I am a new newbie, just took Tech test today. So, as I understand this video, the D-star, DMR, etc. will now work with an analog system, is that correct? And, BTW, it was your three-part Tech videos that got me over the hump I was having, sincerely appreciate the work you and Chris put into them.
Great video, next do D-Star
I'm an old new ham. Due to "life" I've been out of radio for a couple decades. Now that I'm back, my bride bought me an Icom 7300 and a Yaesu FT3D. I have a LOT to learn about both radios and what's happened during my Rip Van Winkle.
I've been active on EchoLink for a while and would like to connect via radio rather than computer, for a few reasons. 1) so I'm not stuck at my desk, 2) so I'm actually using my radio, not just internet chatting. Using a hotspot is that possible/reasonable?
Welcome back. Those are both great radio choices.
Yes you can use a hotspot with the FT3D to connect into various DV mode networks, such as Yaesu System Fusion, DMR and maybe DSTAR. The hotspot will require an internet connection, like an Echolink repeater does.
I use an OPENSPOT2 and a Yaesu FT70 . C4FM digital voice on 440 to the Openspot2. It links via wifi (usally my phones hotspot) to DMR Talkgroups online or to YSF Reflectors. Thoe DMR TG and YSF Reflectors are often connected to repeaters around the world as well as other digital groups online SW Washington while mobile to ther DX3L and a Manila philippines net is common.
The Openspot3 will do the same thing, but it also works with DSTAR
I have a good one for you... I have a number of projects and work is taking up a lot of my nights but if you wanted too take a little time and put a quick vid together that shows how to setup the hotspot (pi-zero) to allow a Yaesu 991a to do DMR via the YSFTODMR and vice versa features that would be very helpful. I am told this can be done....
Great explanation !!! Say there isn’t a repeater in the area is there a way by talking into the hotspot you can come out on a specific repeater and it be translated back into analog where people listening don’t have to be in digital mode in order to hear the transmission?
Tx wfx over Dmr and use Dstar.
I have no idea what im talking about.
Ham 📻 serms to be very technical but fun to learn about.
Thanks !!!!
Thanks for watching!
Yes it can be technical but also fun, as you said.
What would you use a dual time slot hotspot for? Duplexing? When would you use it for example? Good info Jason!! I am getting ready to set up YSF on my FT3D, and most in our area are on DMR around here.
Dual timeslot hotspots are basically only good on DMR. It allows you to monitor 2 TGs, the same way you would on a DMR repeater.
So Jason i wish to be able to talk on multiple digital modes p25, brand meister, dstar, DMR. I don't have a digital HT or mobile, so as I understood you. You have to have one. It doesn't convert the analog to a digital format as I was under the impression that it did. So some of the locals in my club are using P25, others local to my region are using Dstar and DMR+. Whats your recommendation on HT and digital voice Hotspot.
Also is there a Hotspot to program to switch between one mode and the other quickly(on the fly)?
Hey Jason, where'd you get the cool flashing sign on the shelf for Ham Radio 2.0? I'd like to get one for my station call sign. Thx!
Do hotspots work on GMRS frequencies?
Usually not.
I have a FT60R is there a hotspot to allow me to get into more than analog repeaters. Can a hot spot with cross mode allow this radio?.
Bro thank you for explaining the "hotspot" it clicked
What are you going to do with that 736 in the background? That would be a great radio for someone to get onto VHF/UHF weak signal SSB/CW!
Ok...... But how do you use them??? How do you program them, how does your radio get into it? On what frequencies?? Are you rock bound to only one repeater and if you want to go to a different repeater or talk group you have to reprogram it each time??
Good questions. I've answered all of these in previous videos, though. This specific video was for very-new folks who were asking me questions. I can do some follow-up and Part 2 or Part 3 to this one topic though.
I never have seen your videos before,you have a way of repeating yourself many times and really never got to the point of what a hotspot is....a gateway to the internet to be used to inhance communication for digital radios,dmr,,dstar etc....you never elaborated on how it was used...73
@@johnlane7856 if you've never seen my videos before, then how can you tell i never get to the point?
I explained in simple terms what a hotspot was in this video. The video wasn't intended to go deeper than that. If you'd do a bit of research on your own, you'd find the info that you are seeking.
want is the beast hotspot for icom 7100 i like to use it for d-star only i am new to hotspot are the secure so it be your use only or open source
COOL!😎👍🏼
I just ordered the Alinco DJ-MD5. What hotspot would you recommend for talking to another DJ-MD5 over the Internet? Brand new to DMR. Thanks!
So can you connect to an iPhones hotspot with the ham “hotspot” so it has internet access? Then connect your HT like the Kenwood d75 to the ham hotspot when not in areas with repeaters but have cell coverage?
It doesn't provide Internet access, it connects to to DV rooms on the Internet, but you'll need Internet from somewhere else
is a hotspot are secure for your use only or it is open net work
You can set it to a freq and color code of your choosing (for DMR) and change the password on it, but it isn't overly secure
Hi Jason. Good hotspot overview. Can you access these internet radio nodes directly on windows 10 pc? This would be great if you are a Tech starting out.
Some of them you can
I apologize for this real noob question. I have had a Ham Radio license since 1990. Digital voice was not available. Packet radio was just coming into fashion. I then dropped out of the hobby for a while. Can you answer a simple question for me. Can I use a Ham Radio Hotspot to use my Yaesu FT-530 analog HT to talk on Digital Voice through the hotspot?
Can you use this with a baofeng? Or are digital radios different?
Digital radios are different. You'll need something digital to use a hotspot.
@@HamRadio2 thanks, got a grms , I'll probably get dmr next.
Can Dstar communicate digitally through a repeater instead of hotspot? Keeps like cheating what the uniqueness of radio is. I mean, I can just use my phone to communicate via WiFi if I wanted to
Yes you can use it with a repeater
But do you still have to have an FCC license??
Hello greetings from Chile. Can the Fusion C4FM be accessed with a kenwood TH-d74A through a Hotspot?
Only with an Openspot3
I'm curious about advantages of Duplex to Simplex and Simplex to Duplex Hotspots. What are the benefits of them? For final, i'm sure you are going to explain these but can we increase the output power of Hotspot "LEGALLY" (In the Earth, not in specific country)?
But duplex, do you mean dual timeslot? Those are basically only good for DMR because DMR uses both timeslots. Yes you can increase the power on a hotspot, but most of them are low power due to the raspberry-pi or main computer board only providing low power.
Ok i got it. The duplex hotspot useful for double timeslot. I searched a little about it and "Technically" some rf amplifiers avaliable for double antenna(duplex?) hotspots(tx and rx antenna different). These rf amplifiers increase the output power from 0.1W to 5W. I don't know, in my country amateurs can't own a repeater. This option may work for my situation. Thanks for again. 😅@Ham Radio 2.0
Hello Jason, found your hotspot video very helpful - thank you. As a newbie with tech license, I'm finding a lot of misleading crap out there w.r.t. using a RPi to "control" a Ham radio. QUESTION: My HT, FT-65R, can't be used with any "microrepeater" because the FT-65R doesn't have the capability to do this, correct ? Thanks again.
Is it possible to use a vhf/uhf fm HT to talk to the hotspot and translate to the digital formats. Is there annother way to do that?
No, not yet - nothing like that exists right now.
You should do a TIDRadio TD-H6 review
Thanks, I am looking at those
Curious, does anyone know the approximate data rates for DMR/hotspot operation?
If I have a dmr radio and live close to a dmr repeater can I start talking on dmr without yet having bought a hotspot?
how you set up a hotspot for d-star i look at only i see is for dmr radio not for d-star
No, I haven't
Could you cover dual time slot and single time difference and pros and cons for application?
Yes, great idea
Can you use a baofeng radio on a hotspot?
Hello my friend. I want to use my anytone TA878uv2. Witch hotspot do you suggest? Thx pa7ob
Any of them
Hi Jason, thanks for answering several questions for me. Hot spot seems like a great idea. Only have one fusion repeater nearby. Also, thanks for the encouragement about the general exam, should be ready to take that soon. As a new ham I really enjoy your channel and have benefited a great deal. Thank you. KE8RDW
Hi my name is Donald I have a ic-7100 I like to ues it for d-star want is the best hot spot for D-star I am new to hot spot
Can you make it pvt net work
Do you have to pay for services for this or do you just connect it to the internet and it's ready to go?
connect and ready to go
Thanks for at least a few "User-freindly" (i.e. How to "from the box-put-togeather-a-Ham to internet ). Other are verbadge, themselves, techno facts, why's of information "forever.". Again, You the only one, not trying
a movie stare ane/or genious in one or a few videos. :O)
Will this work with an analog HT ?
No
With the right hardware can a dmr hotspot on say a pi4b pull dual duty and also be used with my hf radio for ft8 and other hf digital modes at he same time?
Never tried. I think you would run into issues trying to do this, though.
With all the Raspberry Pi sold out or insanely expensive, is there a way to create an MMDVM using a Windows or Linux laptop?
I have 5 computers lying around going to waste. It just seems like everything needs a Raspberry to function. I don't get the obsession with Raspberry when we should be able to use any computer to do the same thing. :)
..is there a device like this that *doesn't* require internet? Something that can take one radio and let it push n pull in other digital voices? Like, take a DMR radio and let it catch YSF?
No. Not yet.
Do you live in Arlington?
No, Grapevine
What is the link to the discord?
hamradio2.com/discord
Dumb question: does your radio/HT have to be dmr capable?
To use DMR with the hotspot, yes
No question is dumb asking is learning
I'm new, but what happens if say the internet goes down. Then these digital radio channels are basically useless right?
That would be my thought, I mean no connection no link.
Yes
Yes unless you have a repeater in your area. But if the internet is gone at the repeater too, it’s just a conventional repeater that have the coverage of that repeater only.
The concepts of transmitting your radio to a hot spotted network connection 20 ft away seems like it's defeating the point. At that point why not just have a mic connected to the internet transmitting to the networks? Is it not just VoIP with extra steps?
Good show but it would have been better with graphics, images, and a block diagram. Some are visual learners. Perhaps you can post a block diagram.
Thanks for the feedback, I am actually working on something like that
So to summarize, this "digital hotspot" is simply a device that provides a wireless path from your radio to the internet, like a bridge, so that your radio can connect to other remote digital nodes that your radio currently supports.
But it doesn't solve the REAL problem. We simply have TOO many digital protocols for such a small group of users. I spent about $1k on a 991a because many of our repeaters support Fusion. But it can't do DMR or any other protocol, AND, I'm frustrated to find that no one is using the Fusion capability at all because it requires the other person to have Fusion! MANY operators own radios that do not support Fusion!! Thus with SO many protocols, digital becomes a virtual wasteland of untapped capability instead of a viable alternate method of communication.
A much better solution would be a device that can translate digital fusion, or DMR, DStar, etc. to the other common protocols. Our radios need to be interoperable, but since those industry digital standards do not seem to exist, it's time for someone to make a device that breaks down these stovepipe barriers. Unfortunately current patents will probably prevent this.
Not digital but a node is technically the same thing.
True. I have an Allstar node running
Do I need a HAM license to use a hotspot ?
So is this not what ECHO-LINK does?
Similar. Echolink isn't digital though.
I thought so cause it uses internet to communicate all over the world . Im new to the digital world so thanks for your videos
We lost our way as a hobby as soon as we failed to understand the meaning of the word "wireless" and follow other digital internet based commercial options.
Reminder , Anyone can talk around the world using the internet ( no big deal anymore, nothing special, many hams are there using only their phone or computers ), Yet,
only some of you will make the connection wireless, that means, from one point to the other , antenna to antenna , overcoming noise, propagation problems. location , available space and much more.
Nevertheless, if wires and Hotspots is your hobby, than good for you, go for it , we are here learning , just like everyone else and as such we won't go breaking anyone's delusions of wireless communications here.
yes, we do work digital, but point to point, simplex, local repeater only, antenna to antenna, some still having respect to the core of our ( once called ) wireless hobby.
Let's have fun and keep it real.
That is the beauty of DV modes in Ham Radio. You don't *need* to have a hotspot or internet connection to use them. They are still real radios. But connecting them over the internet does expand their capability.
@@HamRadio2 Real radio is great, after all, Wireless is our hobby ( look it up), BUT using the internet ?? how low will this wireless hobby go ?? and because " the internet does expand their capability ( DV Mode) " ??? .
Let's use the wired phone because it will expand our ability to communicate ( this was tried in the past when linking repeaters, no joke, "Dail a repeater" this great idea was obviously voted out as not being part of a TRUE wireless system ) those who were pushing this idea used the very same logic as your argument " expanding their capability " or, some of us hams can not put up a radio/antenna, buy a radio, lack of propagation ( and ability to deal with it ) as well as many other excuses galore. yes, it was sad.
As we see it, we might be talking about another kind of wired/cell phone communication-based hobby ( when the internet is used as a magical " antenna" to the hotspot. lol ), here we have something NEW altogether ( and there is nothing wrong with it ), this internet-based communication special interest group is growing and it is great, a lot to learn and do, but should come under a different classification.
"Wired digital Communication" comes to mind, well, anyway, certainly not Wireless, time to be honest with ourselves as a group.
Agree or not, Thank you for your answer ( and informative videos, they are a great help and super source of info ).
Have a great weekend, stay safe ( and please don't hate us ( lol) for having a different view and outlook ).
@@che59v You Sir, are one of the reasons that Amateur Radio did not grow for years!! What a closed minded way you look at things. Have you "ever" helped a new, interested person get into this great hobby? T With the attitude that you seem to have, I would think that if you did, they probably didn't stay interested very long. Technology changes and hobbies change along with it. I hope you don't spread your negativity with those that may have an interest in getting started. Just my opinion of your comment. Well, ya know what they say about opinions. Maybe it's just me.
You sir make wrong assumptions about other people, why won't you ask first before writing down B.S about others ? attacking one personally won't make your views any stronger, the oposite is true here.
Bobby, please LOOK IN THE MIRROR before talking S*&^T about others, you see, it's people like you who give this hobby a bad name.
So yes, we helped many people in this hobby (and still do), we provided lessons, helped with building antennas radios converters as well as other WIRESSLSS digital projects, all in the spirit of fun and learning.
We still believe that a wireless hobby should be wireless, we have no issues with digital progress ( computer Eng on this side ) for as long as we keep true to this wireless hobby. Anyone who has a digital phone can talk to anyone on the internet those days, not a big deal, BUT we are making magic happen with antennas and not Internet wires that are used as antennas connecting to the world. Our hobby is wireless ( last time we looked ).
@@che59v Not a HAM at all so take my opinion with a grain of salt, but your argument makes sense to me. I was looking at getting in to DMR first but now it just seems like a very complicated cellphone...which I already have. You're simply just replacing your Garfield rotary phone with a DMR radio....unless I'm missing something. OVER
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It's the circuitry board, right?
And you use them to teach a radio how to... radio?
Sorry... I will get there...
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So basically Echolink..
Echolink is analog and this is digital. But very similar.
Glorified Zello for people that want to spend money
Sorry, if I have internet, why don't just use cellphone
You don't need internet to use a cell phone.
@@HamRadio2 I mean to chat or msg friends
Neither of which this hotspot will do. This hotspot connects VOICE through and RF connection between your radio and the hotspot, over the internet to someone on the other end.
Idk how i feel about using the internet for radio... Seems kind of pointless