America is out of colonial range for the Ottomans to colonize, unless they conquered Morocco (which they never had), in this case only a late game diplomatic tech could help them colonize America
@Plo Koon Err.. what? XD They never lost the spice trade, at least not when they were still a big power, they just had to share it. But the Aceh Sultanate for example was a big concurrent for portuguese-controlled Malacca and traded almost exclusively with Ottomans ^^
@Plo Koon Fighting over routes is different though. I don't see how the Iberian navies would've prevented the ottomans from landing a large army somewhere in the Americas.
You will have access to most of the African, SE Asian, Australian colonies after annexing the Mamluks. If you would get all the colonization ideas, you may still be fast enough to grab some colonies in South America or even North America. Anyway, there isn't a colony the mighty Ottomans could not get by force.
@@angryyoungman66 No they treated people from the new lands well. Where did you hear they didn't? They were just to all christian, jews, and muslims of the lands they took. They made enemies cause they were jealous. Don't you know the basics of the Ottoman Empire and how the father of the founder of the Ottoman Empire was one of the best muslim men who fought for Adalete (Justice) He taught the same to his son Osman and Osman to his kids. They took lands and they kept those lands because the people preferred their keeping it then the ones from before.
@@angryyoungman66 remember all the jews that had to leave europe to escape church's persecution? The ottomans gave them refuge...Had it been not for the generosity of the ottomans,all of balkan would speak turkish and say azan today.
@@El-Silver its not less important, its still very important. But the ottoman empire was a hostile power for the christian kingdoms of europe, so they instead chose the other routes which are significantly longer, but tax free.
Yes Exactly, Europeans who could not control the trade routes were looking for another way to go to India. Meanwhile, they accidentally discovered America.
it is perhaps worth mentioning, from a historian's perspective, that the americas were less profitable than india and china until the 20th century. this is usually overseen, if you are not an academic historian, or familiar with economics. although spain became rich thanks to the silver mines of the americas, it was still inferior to both india and china until today. we, westerners, often overestimate the wealth of the americas, although it should be clear that the heavily populated and developed empires of south and east asia, especially the indian sub continent and china, were the number 1 and 2 wealthiest economies until 1850 for good reasons. yes, great britain became the world's biggest economical power only after it took large portions of india, and after it defeated china, and then won in the second industrial revolution (around 1850).
@@celdur4635 the gold and silver only led to inflation or as the casus belli of Opium War had shown, just unsustainable commodity compared to the wealth and bulk of Asian industry products.
Think about how tough would it be to even get some silver and gold from the Americas back even if they succeeded, they would still face raids and attacks against the Spanish, they would have their colonies constantly under threat by the Spanish, and the Portuguese, I mean sooner or later it would be knocked out of the game no?
are you really sure?. There were many products from the americas that replaced indian and china products some were even of higher quality and cheaper. England was big because of India and china? Yes maybe but not mainly for the products of those places. As far as I remember England mayor economy income came in the form of manufactured objects being clothes one of the most profitable thing they exported everywhere. They not only sell their clothes to Europe but they sell it to all of their colonies and non colonies, the same with tea and else.
So, Venize had a monopoly to buy things from Mamluks who had also a monopoly? No wonder spices were expensive as hell at the time, double monopoloy plus the transport fees XD
I don't know who does your art and editing for these videos but they are becoming ridiculously high quality. They are almost as interesting to watch as the stories themselves! Kudos!
And its immigrants. There's a bunch of Arabs in Latin America. Carlos Slim "from Mexico" is the fifth-richest person in the world. Nayib Bukele is the President of El Salvador. And Shakira's family is from Lebanon.
@Ben Ova Vast majority of immigrants from the Ottoman Empire in Latin America are Arabs. They are mostly Lebanese and Palestinian Christians, who are Arab, such as the Maronites.
@@UmaiAna98 Fool yourself, the Ottoman is mostly Turkish. Not even a small minority of Arabs in Turkey do not even now you can observe not only the Kurds as a minority nobody else
Samsunlu 55 It‘s false to say that today the majority of turkish people just have middle eastern roots. There are also greek roots. Generally considered, there is a proper mixing.
i read history a lot and i think i am capable of analyzing it in modest level. So as a turkish person i can tell that this video is the most accurate and precise source to suggest to people even in turkey...congrats my friends, following you since 2017... love u :)
People tend to forget that creating a transocean empire was a remarkably difficult task and, contrary to the common belief, they consumed more resources than could be benefited from. France failed in creating a sustainable colony, England needed over a century and The Netherlands only created little more than commercial posts. The Otomans never had a realistic chance.
I think the French simply never bothered enough about America. Their main concern was always France's place in Western Europe, hence Napoleon's cavalier abandonment of Louisiana just so he could focus on Europe.
You make it sound as if it wasn't a good deal for the colonizers and they spent more wealth on the colonies than they extracted from them. That is a preposterous statement. Obviously not true, as it is not sane nor natural for humans to go against their self interest. You're also suggesting that it was a 'too difficult task' for the ottomans, even though the video clearly shows that it was difficult because of very specific reasons, not because they lacked the ability. Your comment is reeking of racism in many ways, against ottomans, against colonized people, and frankly, it's pathetic. It's obvious that the western europeans, due to their geographic advantage, got to colonize and that created the wealth and the success of their societies in the following centuries. Without the riches of faraway lands, who knows, they would probably all be colonized by Ottomans instead, as the eastern europe already had! It is truly chillingly pathetic and racist that you think of colonization as an 'accomplishment', a 'difficult task' the western europeans had undertaken and succeeded in. Why? Why would that be? Are they superior, smarter human beings? Cause that's clearly what you are trying to imply only you are too much of a coward to say it out directly. Truly pathetic. Hate your kind of racists. If you're going to be one, have the balls to be one openly .
Two things are missing in this video: Columbus asked Ottoman Sultan Bayezid II for sponsorship to his project, which was declined. (However, i am informed that this story is fabricated later by Evliya Çelebi in 17th century) Hayreddin Barbarossa suggested venturing to Americas, which the Grand Vizier Ibrahim Pasha declined, stating that "The Empire should focus on dominating the Mediterranean and Indian Ocean.
@Emir Eser Dumb decisions? The Americas were basically a goose chase after Indian riches. The Ottomans HAD Indian riches and instead focused on controlling it
@Emir Eser Dumb decisions falan yok bu arada. İlk söylediği hiç olmamış bir hikaye ikincisi ise hayreddin istese bile hangi gemiyle gidicekler amerikaya? Kürekli kadırgalarla koca okyanusu aşması teknik olarak mümkün değil sanki ibrahim izin verse gidebileceklerdi :D Okyanusta gemi yüzdürmek tamamen farklı bir konu ve Osmanlı donanması bu konu hakkında bir tecrübeye sahip değildi hiçbir zamanda olamadı zaten. Portekiz gibi denizci ülkenin bile kıyıdan kıyıdan afrikanın burnuna ulaşması için kaç tane denizci öldü gitti bir sürü sefer yapıldı öyle geminin ucunu Amerikaya çevirince varmıyorsun oraya.
@Emir Eser not dumb, but unnecessary. First, why the hell you need to sponsor an enemy traveler? second, Ottoman already controlling Indian sea and old trade routes, venturing Americas would be expensive and risky since Spain and Morocco are controlling the Gibraltar. Ottoman empire is too fragile for another expansion Geographical disadvantages is the main reason behind all of this
@@revivalist355 We defendend ourselves, we fought just like the mamluks, the persians did. The only difference between us and theme, that we won, and the fell on the ottoman colonization. The ottomans imposed taxes on every people they colonize, like they were khawarij.
@E Fig True, the Habsburg monarchy controlled both spain and Austria, but I dont think the many Austrians or broadly speaking citizens of the HRE would choose to move away from their home land.
Don't know why the Turkish historians don't focus on this topic. Best video so far on this topic! Unfortunately the Ottoman Empire is very unknown to the Europeans although they changed the history remarkeble. Thanks you for introducing them!
California is actually derived from an arabic-spanish hybrid word and though the ottomans are Turks they used a lot of Arabic at that time so maybe could have stayed that way lol
This feels tautological. The reason for the Iberian interest in the Americas was the Ottoman conquests in the East (which blocked access to the Indian ocean). How could the Ottomans be motivated to head West across the Atlantic if the motivation to do so was to arrive where they already were?
I think the debate was more, why didn't they at least attempt a smaller less expensive incursion into the new world and the reason was because it wasn't sustainable. They either went through Spain&Portugals backyard or they sailed all the way around Africa. As the video mentioned they also were experiencing a great many growing pains due to their expansion into Europe and Africa.
Exactly. They had discovered the world was round and they thought they could get to India by going around in the opposite direction and would arrive at the same place.
@@jonathanlondon4265 Depends on what country you're in. Some recognize 4, others 8. Some have the Americas as one, or Eurasia as one, and others don't. Some (cough) don't even recognize Oceania.
Spain: "Never thought I would fight side by side with an islamite..." Saadi Morocco: "What about fighting alonside someone who also hate the Ottomans?" Spain: "Aye, I can do that..."
Word thise sayddi allied with spain aganist ottoman for the sake of interests so ottoman dont invade their country lol..both were scared from ottoman 😅
Morocco was in a pricurious situation in one side there is the inbeleivers in iberia which they were the rivals of the moroccan empires for centries , on the other side the enormous ottoman war machine in the Est was threathning moroccan independance . The saadi didnt ally themselves with spain but with portugal and were crushed in the battle of the three kings by the ottoman backed branch if the saadis
The Ottomans were fat and happy with their existing trade routes. They didn’t have any need to peruse alternate routes to Asia. Western Europe was hungry and had reasons to seek alternate trade routes.
Another reason was that they couldn't even expel the Portuguese from India, if they wanted they couldn't even do that they wouldn't be able to do something against Spain and Portugal in the New World.
@Ibrahim Somali They expelled the Portugese from encroaching further but they didn't manage to drive the portugese off from their trade routes and didn't break portugese naval supremacy
They were content trading with the indians in the east. But the golds and silvers from the americas slowly strangled the ottoman economy (due to inflation) which would eventually lead to their decline.
Leo Scarpe I only claim to speak on behalf of the people Hungarian people who spoke to me on the issue. I’m quite sure the people of Turkey see it differently. The victors usually do recall things differ fly than the victims.
As a Turkish guy myself I am curious about this subject. There are some theories about it. First Ottomans were a land Empire beacuse of their Central asian steppe origins. Seafaring traditions started by first Turkish admiral Çaka Bey but not continued after his murder by Seljuk Sultan. After that Barbarossa made Ottomans rulers of the Mediterrenean and built a strong navy but failed to persuade the İbrahim Pasha to sailing to the New world. Also the Janisseries were influential on Ottomans war policy and they insisted on conquering the Hungary and Vienna. But most importantly Ottomans had trade routes from İndia and China to İstanbul. They think it is too little to gain with going to such faraway lands. And it was not easy because of Spanish naval force on Gibraltar and Mediterrenean. Lastly Ottomans failed in İndian Ocean campains in Suleiman the Magnificents time beceause their ships were Kadırga not Galleons suited for voyaging the oceans. If you have any other ideas please let me now🙂
Let's be honest, they had they're hands full colonizing Egypt, Eastern Europe, and the Arabian Peninsula as well as being imperialistic in India, Indonesia, & Morocco. England, France, Spain, etc. didn't have their hands quite as full in the old world before they started their own efforts in colonialism & imperialism in The New World & Africa. I say this empire to former empire of course; I'm fully aware of the USA's history of colonialism, imperialism, and its current neo-imperialist (hopefully future as well (What can I say, I bleed red, white, and blue & I'm not ready to had everything over to China yet.).) tendencies.
@@patrickblanchette4337 Dude what Ottoman's did wasn't colonising. Colonising equals to exploiting but Ottoman Empire clearly never exploited. For example taxes from Balkans they took were lower than the money they invested to there. Their ideology was spreading islam. So they only conquered but no exploiting. Also this is one of the reasons of not going that far. Not only because america is far but also because in the lands they are governing people weren't asimilated or so... So it was difficult to rule. While they were challenging hard with those problems no opportunity was left for other huge issues.
Muhammet Emin DİNÇER Would you say that expanding into the Balkans was the Ottoman’s version of Manifest Destiny? I mean, I could also say that America clearly wanted to spread freedom in South America, Iraq, and Vietnam, but regardless of whether that’s true or not, at the end of the day, we intervened in those places for our own benefits first and foremost (Economically, politically, religious, etc.). It’s what all empires do; it doesn’t make those nations mustache-twirling supervillains; just very human. I’m also not trying to knock the Ottomans down a peg; they were an interesting and cool empire (plus they invented military bands!🎶). I’m just saying that all empires expand to benefit themselves.
@@patrickblanchette4337 ofcourse there will be benefit from expanding the borders. But can you say that USA made more investment (i mean for flourishing the country) than the money they got feom Iraq? The archieves say that Ottoman invested for flourishing Balkans more than the revenue from those countries. What do you understand from this? More, when British, Spanish or the others invaded america there was a systematic slaughters against natives. Can you show an evidence that Ottoman did any systematic slaughter against Balkans and others? Let me say: Never! We know this from archieves and also from the demografik structure of the post Ottoman countries and their languages. They are like never ruled by ottomans. These show us that those people lived the same way in Ottoman rule as before.
Shame that the great naval Battle of Diu, between the Portuguese and the Ottomans, wasn't even mentioned in this video. It would be awesome to see it covered in this channel one day.
They consider it to be sign of power of the Ottomans when in 1654 we lost the battle of Aceh in the other end of the world, however when a country with less than 1.5 million people like us created forts under their noses in Ormuz, Muscate, Socotra Island is considered irrelevant xD. Yet they didnt ever built forts in any atlantic island anytime nor in the western coast of Africa whatsoever.
That was not a national anthem, it’s a 19th century song titled “Üsküdara gideriken” (or “Katibim”). Ottomans did not have a national anthem as it wasn’t an empire based on nationalism. The concept of “national anthem” is very new in history.
MrHL5 No, “Mecidiye Marşı” is not a national anthem. It is, as in the name, a “marş”. Ottoman Empire was, as in the name, an (dynastic) empire, not a national entity, hence no national anthem. There are many “marş” pieces but regardless of their popularity at the time none of them was an official “national anthem”.
@@campbelldutch75 Jesus, peace be upon hım, is not the god. He is the messenger and the light to humankind sent by God, before Muhammed, peace be upon him. They both say the same thing. Love, forgive, don't kill, don't steal, basically don't be a jerk is the message. And you know what? You are being a jerk!
This is by far the most eloquent historical and economics description of the monumental historical events in Europe and the Middle East in the 16th Century. Thank you.
Except Morrocans would let them pass considering that Ottomans are the Caliph and if thats not enough They are littearly neighboors so brute force is always an option
@@Val-ng2um The Moroccans would never let them pass ! The Turks tried to take over twice ... the north Africans also had quite a presence near Gibraltar constantly harassing Spain and Portugal but hated the Turks more for they saw their attack as a betrayal to the trust they put into them being both Muslims and all (read about it really fun subject)
Jack Sparrow is inspired by various pirates in Caribbean including the infamous & flamboyant Jack Rackham a.k.a. "Calico Jack". While his characterizations and mannerism are inspired by Keith Richards from rock band Rolling Stones and Pepé Le Pew from cartoon Looney Tunes. Jack Ward was only operating in Tunis or Mediterranean Sea, which clearly has different environment and warfare style than the Caribbean.
And some "foreign" looking pirate crews in Jack Sparrow's fleet can be interpreted as Indians. We can also see African and Asian-looking crews in some scenes.
@@Cyan_Nightingale What I have said is %100 true. Muslim North Africans were calling Jack Ward "Asfur" which translates to "Sparrow". Jack Sparrow. 😉 because he was obsessed with Sparrows and he had so many pets. Research is good mate.
@@Cyan_Nightingale Its inspired by Jack Ward, but of course in Carribean Style and Culture. HE CARRIES A CRESCENT MOON AND STAR EAR RING, which is also a symbol of Islam and that time the Ottoman Empire. 😉😊
History matters and Especially James Bizzanet would be outraged that kings and generals did a video on the same topic they did a video on quite a while ago
We are running out of topics in this network of history-related creators. I do not know how many versions of Caesar's sieges or Byzantine-Sassanid tribulations I have already watched.
Generally it's the countries with lots of wealth but little land area who colonise across oceans, the Greek cities, England Venice and Portugal are good examples
I wouldn't really classify the 3 great colonizer nations as little lands area... Spain, France and England were all much larger than say.. Florence, Venice or Genoa. I think a much more important attribute was stability and ease of access to the Atlantic ocean.
@@xXxSkyViperxXx They're not quite small... maybe if compared to like Russia or the USA or China. If we're going off population, Germany, the UK, France and Italy are the 19th, 21st, 22nd and 23rd highest population countries respectively. Regardless, modern nation states in Africa and South America are only the size they are due to the interference of the colonizers as they organized territory into easier managed sections.
Awesome video! I love watching your content when I wake up and any time I eat. Did anyone else notice the East Indies theme at 12:40 from Anno 1404? I'm so glad you picked that, it's a great song and the perfect vibe for this part of the video.
"Why did the Ottomans never colonize the Americas?" Try shipping thousands of colonists, and their supplies, *through the Spanish-controlled Strait of Gibraltar.*
Through Egypt you mean and then through the bab al mandeb down the swahili coast to south Africa Colonize that and booms straight to southern region of the Americas (argentina, Uruguay, south chile) Expand north
@@adrianbundy3249 @Yuri Tarded Problem with those plans would be that all of these areas were already controlled by the Portugese Navy and it would have been easier for the ottomans to sail straight through the Strait of Gibraltar than to sail through the portugese armada
@@JasonDoe1000 It was a joke, I didn't think it was feasible for them. Hence the :) when agreeing with the disagreement with the Ottoman chances. But no, I do disagree with the thing being hardest with the other routes being having to go against the Portuguese, vs Gilbratar. No, they probably would have had to contend with both, in any eventuality. As it was, their issue was needing to upgrade to having a better navy, with better ships, which they didn't have. If they did, then they could confront them in either ocean, but then the biggest factor would have been the distance and logistics of such voyages to places like the new world, via the African or Indian ocean channels, where they simply weren't there at that time. And needing an entirely new class of boats from their navy to be able to do it. If they could get through the straights, it at least would have been a LITTLE more economical. That is taking the military angle out of it; but as it was, it simply wasn't feasible.
@@JasonDoe1000 ottomans were already at war with the portuguese in the horn of africa There lack of care for expanding is what made suleiman give up the war effort Ironically they defeated the portuguese and even took back the coastal cities of pate, lamu and Mombasa There were alot of muslims in the horn of Africa and swahili coast Yet there lack of care for expanding into the region is their problem Hey even helped somalis defeat and take over 3/4 of ethiopian highlands aswell as defeat the Portuguese If they wanted to that route would have been possible for them Portugal swiftly took back the swahili coast after sending for reinforcements from india
Really glad you mentioned Peter Frankopan's book. It is the most intricate, detailed piece of historical document/book I have read so far. It's almost comically detailed and he manages to set the full picture through extensive, but very intriguing descriptions. The author covers not only the immediate geographical regions of the the silk road, far from it, it is merely used symbolic and as an anchor point, the book ventures through internal politics, trade over the oceans, warfare, aristocratic attitudes, quotes on internal and foreign affairs and so much more. It is a book that covers the linking dots more or less all over the world. Thank you for your time :)
Actually the ottomans did try venture into the new world, and we're in fact aided by a renegade contingent of Maltese hospitaller knights and Inca prisoners. They were commanded by Sahin 'the falcon' to stop the secret society known as the 'circle of ossus' and successfully defeated them by destroying the fountain of youth. There's a great interactive documentary about it called 'Age of Empires III'
@@zubersingh yes. I also hope. A modder has already made sikh confederacy but it is a mod that we have to install. I hope they do some changes and add the mod( mod means modification) in aoe3 wars of liberty.
i find kings and generals to be the best unbiased & thorough source of information on ottoman history, a subject so delicate and complicated many history enthusiasts on this platform have failed while attempting to explain.
That's a good point, economically they will be over powered... And the native American Indian would live and be Muslims, or stay with there religion. A lot would happen...
@@YassuYasen well, they fought a battle to conquer Spain, and another with the french but they lost the last one, probably they would have tried to conquer all the territory and the convert the locals to the Islam, like in Spain
@@YassuYasen a lot of empires with an official religion extended their religion with conquer, the roman empire, the spanish empire, the ottoman empire, etc... That is very common, all what i said is based in history, you said that Islam would spread peacufully in a foreign land with allmost no contact with Islam before (like france and spain) but based in history that is not true, you need to chill a bit
Alexandros Var blood tax ? they needed soldiers and many christian families were happy that their kids will grow up in palaces . Lets talk in general . Look at the colonizations of england france and compare with ottomans you should be happy that u controlled by ottomans if you are still able to talk your language and practice your religion. I know you have butthurt you cant look from that perspective.
2:30 The anime and manga "Altair: A Record of Battles" (Shoukoku no Altair) made many references about this. The protagonist (who is a pasha, a general, of the Turkiye Stratocracy) made friends with the Doce of Venice (Venedik). The manga and anime was roughly based on the Ottoman Empire (Mehmed II), its relationship with other countries and its competition with the Holy Roman Empire (or Balt-Rhein Empire).
I wouldn’t say “so powerful”. As described by K&G near the end of this video, their massive territory became their own folly aswell - as they continue to skirmish in the Hungarian and Persian border against their many enemies, aswell as the unending battles for control in the Meditterannean Sea. Once the Westerners bought so much gold from the New World, they created influx in Ottoman Empire thus limiting their projection of power until the day of Ottoman’s inevitable decline.
@@RaferJeffersonIII 200,000,000 population in modern times, not to mention many civilaszitions in world history in north africa, I wouldn't call it "just sand dunes"
HiImEtai didnt contribute anything to the world. Other than sex slavery. Sand dunes, and the Quran. That’s pretty much it. Chopping off male slaves genitals. Trafficking women from the caucus. Horrifically barbaric society.
Battle of Diu: victory of the Portuguese naval, heralded the end of the old trading giants and led to centuries of European naval and trade dominance, that shaped the modern world.
Everything has an End my friend, would not be surprised to see those Arabs kicking back in some centuries from now ! That is why we should never underestimate an enemy even during their time of despair ...
@@denzelsmashsymptom4264 Turks arent Arabs though. They actually ruled the arabs. But true. But at this age, it was the Portuguese and the Spanish who opened alternatives and the gates for the European domination of the world. The portuguese are so underrated at this period, they had huge wins so far away from home against Asians and even Europeans, in a battle they even defeated Turkish, Venician and Indian forces.
Ottomans however did (try) to colonize and integrate Indonesia - There was a state called *Aceh* its constructed and supported by the Ottomans - if they advanced Ottomans May be arrive to Australia and maybe even new zealand
No, the Ottomans had a diplomatic mission there, and accepted the vassalage of the Sultanate of Aceh, by accepting Aceh's recognition of the Ottomans as Caliph. But Aceh already existed. It was not founded by the Ottomans. There was no Turkish colonization.
The history of some of those maps is pretty crazy. The made them from some unknown ancient sources and referenced antarctica correctly without it having been officially discovered until the 1800's
Yeah! I had seen somewhere the Byzantines (or early Ottomans, can't remember which one) had actually followed Africa south and just kept going. They brought back sweet maps. Seeing all the ice were like, "Yup, thats the bottom"
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j True mate, but partially. Can you find me just one Country that speaks Turkey Turkish other than Turkey today ? Unlike e.g France, Spain, Portugal or Britain , Ottomans were nicer to the other Cultures.
@@kamilhd2280 I guess you people never heard of what happened to Constantinople. Or is it normal for Turkey to just whitewash the shit out of their own history?
@@zeonmx What happended to Constantinople? It got taken and over time the turkish population grew, I wonder why, maybe because the ottomans were turkish based empire?
The maps in this episode are the best to date. I love maps to an unhealthy degree. I need help. I need map rehab. I’m a map addict. Who needs pornography when you have geography? Mmmm maps.
Ottomans were the real cause of colonialism Ottomans blocked the trade route between Europe and India, China. Ao in order to find new trade routes to India and China Portugal and Spain were the first to discover new routes and establishing colonies in the Americas and Africa and than Asia followed by Britain, Netherlands and France
the question can be answered just by looking at a map: to have colonies in the Americas they needed to have access to the Atlantic Ocean and they didn't - specifically, they didn't control Gibraltar. Had Morocco been part of the Ottoman Empire, they would have a chance, but Morocco was independent
But not trying harder to conquer Morocco after the initial setbacks is already part of the question. That the map in the Maghreb looked like it did, needs to be explained as well.
@@varana The trade routes the Ottomans controlled in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe were profitable enough...to reach the Atlantic they needed to control the Western Mediterranean first and that meant costly battles with France and Spain
@@andres6868 Exactly - my point was that "well, just look at a map, they didn't have access to the Atlantic, d'uh" is not a sufficient explanation. It also needs to be explained _why_ they did not have access to the Atlantic.
Clearly multiple actions are needed in order to achieve reform, because despite all the economic crisis. This is still go of time to start up an investment.
@@devinclifford8144 The real estate industry crackdown clipped Evergrande's wings, stopped it taking on more debt and had the flow-on effect of forcing it to sell apartments at a discount so cash would continue rolling in.
Poor man, its like when Stalin excuted Palvov, despite he give warnings and wanted to move troops to the border. It wasnt his fault. Same thing, the Portuguese was simply superior at the sea at this period.
This is so fascinating. In school we are given the impression of a sequestered ancient world with individual bubbles that were only opened, or "discovered" by European explorers. But to see how interconnected everything was so early on gives a much better view.
@İnsan I'm not European, I'm from Argentina. It's just what we were taught, no way around it. In China they teach a very China centric history too, it's just natural for each country to do.
It was probably even more consequential than trafalgar. I mean diu happened roughly 3 centuries prior to trafalgar so of course the battle of diu had the "time" to have a hingher influence in history so right there it's hard to judge importance. But that aside both battles impacts boil down to: - DIU: caused the effective end of the era of muslim and indian domination of the trade routes of the indic ocean, and introduced new trade routes that led to the displacement of wealth from the arabs to the portuguese and later other colonial powers (the europeans would go on to control the indic ocean for roughly, the next 4 centuries). One example of the impact of this battle is the mamluks that ended up loosing one of their main sources of wealth and ended up becoming easier prey for the ottomans since now they could not finance the stunning armies of old, for all we now the mamlucks might well have won the war with ottomans if not for this battle. -TRAFALGAR: forced napoleon to keep itself to the european continent without a proper navy to not only invade Britain but also keep the british navy from aiding napoleons enemies. Although not the most crucial, this was one of events that led to the fall of napoleon. This batte also heavily contributed to the rise of the british navy to the point it was the most powerful navy in the world for roughly a century.
The battle of diu was one of the most important and consequetial battles in the world. It flipped everything. It ended the reign of the muslim world, consolidated the first global empire, allowed europeans to frerly rule the waves and go to america, asia. This even had consequences on the russian alternative of silk road in the north.
The Battle of Diu is among the 10 most important battles of humanity. She practically founded the global Portuguese empire. Even better, one motivation was the desire for revenge of Dom Francisco De Almeida, the Viceroy, for the death of his son.
@Gantz akira What do you call the conquest of the Byzantine and Persian empires, the conquest of northern Africa, the conquest of Hispania, the conquest of the Balkans? In each of the above cases, those who fought against or who did not cooperate with the Muslims -- i.e either convert or become second class citizens and double - taxed ("Dhimni") were murdered and enslaved. The resources of those territories were used by the ruling Muslims by and for the ruling Muslims. Here's a few (not all) of the battles: Rashidun Siege of Jerusalem (636-637 AD/CE) Rashidun Seige of Alexandria, Egypt (641 AD) Umayyad Conquest of Iberian Peninsula (711 -- 726 AD) [ *Christian Reconquista (711 -- 1492)* ] [ *Battle of Tours, France -- Charles Martel (732 AD)* ] Battle of Mohács -- Suleiman the Magnificent. (1526) [ *Seige of Vienna -- Ferdinand 1st, Holy Roman Emperor (1529)* ] [ *Battle of Vienna -- Christian Coalltion[1] (1683)* ] ____________________________________________________ 1.) Christian Coallition (1683) *Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth* -- King John III Sobieski ........ (Supreme Commander of the Christian Coalition Army) *Holy Roman Empire* -- Emperor Joseph 1st ...... Austria ...... Bavaria ...... Bohemia Bohemian Crown ...... Franconia ...... Saxony ...... Swabia *Hapsburg Hungary* -- Leopold 1st *Wallachia* (secretly allied) -- Prince Șerban Cantacuzino ...... Wallachians didn't like the Ottoman Turks. Their most ...... famous king was Vlad III of Wallachia (also known as ...... Vlad the Impaler), who ruled from 1448 -- 1477. ...... Unfortunately for Wallachia (Later part of modern ...... Romania) and its citizens; the 1400's were a time ...... when the Saxons wanted to trade with the Ottoman ...... empire; so any dreams of independence were ...... crushed from both the Saxons (from the northwest) ...... and by the Ottomans (from the southeast)
lol This video is not entirely true though. It's true that the ottoman turks never tried to conquer america but the ottoman north africans did! From what I know the north african states of the ottoman empire gained independence from turks to start their own little empire. Not all the ottomans were turks though. After the turkish invasion of albania we also had the ottoman albanians who were ethnically albanians same as the ottoman north africans were ethnically algerians, tunisians, even libyans if I'm not mistaken.
It's interesting that this guy mentioned the invasion of the coasts of iceland at 9:08 but he doesn't mention who the invaders were. Those invaders also attacked north american ships in the atlantic if I'm not mistaken which triggered north america into a war against the ottomans of north africa.
@Vienna But they weren't turks my man. Even icelanders blame the turks. They have a name for this event "the turkish abductions" same as eastern europeans blame turks for the crimes of the steppe empires.
@Vienna The ottomans of north africa were some of the most bad S empires in history. With a small military they managed to scare the big powerful french into paying them in resources for years. They were doing what the british were doing but with a much smaller military. And they did. The french paid north africans in gold and silver for years. It's like the big bully taking the lunch money from a little kid except in this case it's the other way around because the north frican ottoman navy and their military were the small ones and the french were the big powerful ones.
Do you know that Ottoman also a good ally to Japan and that's the reason Islam spread in Japan now? Do you know Javanese (people of Java Island in Indonesia) already can reach the Madagascar and even the Western Africa in long long time ago with just a wooden ship that called as JONG ?? That's why there are some Javanese and Javanese descendants in Madagascar right now. Reality sometimes far beyond your mind and sometimes actually more simple than you think.
To consider the Ottomans a match to the Portuguese in 1654, when after 80 years of Spanish rule, a costly restauration war against Castille, attacked by almost every other european competitors in the Atlantic and so on, the Portuguese were a shadow of their former selves is quite normal. Of course that the Ottoman juggernaut was supposed to be stronger then a small and peripheral European Nation, when you look at the placing where their men, navy and power comes from in terms of comparison with the Portuguese. What is surprising is how a small country as Portugal, with low manpower and natural resources, coming from the other side of the planet absolutely vaporizes a coalition of relevant forces in the Indian Ocean only 10 years after arriving there, such as the Battle of Diu. Leaving marks that are felt nowadays like avoiding Ethiopia becoming fully muslim, establishing forts in places that even today are hellholes like Ormuz and the Horn of Africa. There was laid the foundation for all the maritime powers to come to rule the ocean through choke points and well placed forts and bases. Being a successfull and impressive land empire is one thing, to have a blue water navy and sail across the globe through stars and wind is a whole different game technologically speaking. Some chose not to invest in it like the Ottomans or the Chinese after Zheng He, others had not any other alternative like the Portuguese.
@@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv We had good relations with you guys, our monarchy was from Bourgogne, we always had a lot of commercial relations with Flandres, but then ours kings decided to expel the jews or force converse them and a lot of them went to the Netherlands, and with the Iberian Union we we got the Spanish enemies for free. Some people from The Netherlands like De Huurte family in the Açores were settling on our lands, and on Cabo Verde.
It's funny to see the bias and propaganda that you are trying to venture here. But once u started this talk, I'll give my opinion. I'm jst finding it really funny. What I said and I repeat, the Ottomans were great in their place, but they were no match to Portugal in the High Seas. Of course that on land its different, probably Contantinople had more population than the whole of Portugal. The Ottomans couldn't even conquer Morocco, but Portugal helped Ethiopia to remain partialy Christian otherwise they would all be muslim by sword. Submit or die was the Ottoman rule as any other Christian, Hindu, Shinto, Buddhist or animalist empire. The fobia of Islam is not a fobia, we undertand you u for what u are. Same as us, just different religion. Islam has always historically tried to play itself as this underdog, as this religion and people who are friendly but when someone wakes up, they have a knife on their throat. What reality shows is that even in 2020 Islam can't separate politics from religion, they are the same! The same faces of the coin. I see where your thinking comes from, and I'm just sorry for you. As always throughout history, reality stumps on ideology. You try to put here Islam and the Ottomans as victims ahahahahaah. AGAIN AHAHAHAH. Ottomans were invaders in Anatolia, the same way as Islam coming from the Hejaz was invader to an Anatolia where Christian priests had been preaching for more than 700y (a lot of times converting by force and the sword also). So people changed religion just because the sun rose?? No more sand to the eyes please... You are not preaching to some illiterate village in the mountains of the HinduKush. Islam had problems with Europeans because Europeans were in Europe even before Osman was born and Islam existed. So what? We know Islam from heart and soul, the same way Islam knows Christianity. We are neighbours in geography and share historical roots. What is historically clear to anyone is that Islam only stops when its dealt with a Culture with Strong foundations and full force, these being the Europeans, the Hindus of India and the Han Chinese. Understand one thing at last. Europe is not the An Nafud. We are here for Milennia and will stand here for Milennia. About the Ottomans standing against terrorism? I can't believe what I'm reading. Europe has achieved human development unseen in history, way greater than anything Islamic world has given humanity, and the islamic golden age in the 1000s gave a lot. Of course that the European colonizers were oppressors, the same way as Sudanese islamists enslaved black africans and sold them way before we arrived there by sea. Your problem with Europeans is that you are our rivals, and because we arrived there first, avoided you to do so. Europe was able to control its religious radicals, and put them in their place. To have a secular rule, and separate state from and allow muslims to live among us. What did the muslims do? What are they doing in Germany and France nowadays, recruiting young people to fight in the Jihad, promoting Sharia among other stuff while the christians are persecuted in Syria, Turkey and every Muslim country? Your mask is falling apart everyday. We are secular and we are Europeans but bear in mind that when the time comes, our historical roots comes before the islamists we are receiving in our home. As Turkey as soon learnt, trying to roll over Greece but France with the backing of Europe, is a bit too big for u to stump on. Just ask the Sahel Africa how are muslims behaving or the northern Mozambique. Corrupt leaders are the same, islamic or christian they just follow the money.
I love all your videos.. very creative refreshing and I can even explain to my children about history using the videos. Straighforward and simple explanation
Icelanders hate Turks because of this raiding to Iceland but fact is they was not Turks, captain was Dutchman converted islam changed name and crew was Berber Arabs from barbary states we know this because of Icelander prisoner priest he write everything about raiders.
@Relax Man Islam is a religion. Turkey is a country. A person from Turkey can also be a Muslim: you can be both Turkish and Islamic, or be either separately
@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio We need to find a galician to confirm how they speak "Henrique". If the q is silent for them, then you have a point. If it is not, I call bs XD
It's interesting to learn that the rise of the Portuguese empire indirectly led to the fall of the Mamluk Sultanate (who also played more of a role in Spain's & Portugal's colonial drive then just simply the fall of Constantinople).
@@MFPRego What I mean is that a lot of people nowadays like to call it an empire (though not myself of course). I think a lot of people have a new definition for empire that’s not the official definition(I personally don’t care either way).
@@MFPRego we lacked the numbers to even call it "an empire". we just built a bunch of forts and traded with the locals then went back to the homeland. the only place where colonization was taken seriously was brazil, where at some point half of our population of 1.5 million just left to go there
Perhaps you should visit india. To know how addicting spices can be. The per capita of india is 2000USD. But since they consume so much and many spices. It's kind of distracting the indians from realisation of poverty and development. Every meal of the day is dopamine inducing and makes people docile. Hyderabadi biryani, pav bhaji,vad pav,karnataka dosa and tamil nadu's idli sambhar are to name a few.
Very nice animations and music so well used, that I enjoyed every minute of the documentary. You guys are getting better and better with every video. It is very nice to experience this development, while learning so much in the meantime. Keep up the astonishingly great work, K&G.
Magnificient video, I've never been able to find any sources on this topic in my University library, great video that you've made, wonderful visuals though
Our Ottoman battle series will make a comeback relatively soon. Turns out quarantine is not helpful, as libraries are not working.
:)
الترجمة العربية
early arab conquest second part needed
I second. Can you make individual episodes from your big Arab Conquest episode?
Keep up the great work guys
America is out of colonial range for the Ottomans to colonize, unless they conquered Morocco (which they never had), in this case only a late game diplomatic tech could help them colonize America
jeffrey1017 I guess you have played Europa Universalis XD
@Plo Koon Err.. what? XD
They never lost the spice trade, at least not when they were still a big power, they just had to share it. But the Aceh Sultanate for example was a big concurrent for portuguese-controlled Malacca and traded almost exclusively with Ottomans ^^
@Plo Koon Fighting over routes is different though. I don't see how the Iberian navies would've prevented the ottomans from landing a large army somewhere in the Americas.
You will have access to most of the African, SE Asian, Australian colonies after annexing the Mamluks. If you would get all the colonization ideas, you may still be fast enough to grab some colonies in South America or even North America. Anyway, there isn't a colony the mighty Ottomans could not get by force.
I see you are a man of culture as well
The Ottoman Empire suffered the same problem Eastern Romans (or Byzantines) had.
They have enemies in all sides.
well they made those enemies
because they didn't treat well the people of the new lands the ottamans took
if the ottoman hadn't behaved well, now all balkans would be speaking Turkish
@@angryyoungman66 No they treated people from the new lands well. Where did you hear they didn't? They were just to all christian, jews, and muslims of the lands they took. They made enemies cause they were jealous. Don't you know the basics of the Ottoman Empire and how the father of the founder of the Ottoman Empire was one of the best muslim men who fought for Adalete (Justice) He taught the same to his son Osman and Osman to his kids. They took lands and they kept those lands because the people preferred their keeping it then the ones from before.
@@angryyoungman66 remember all the jews that had to leave europe to escape church's persecution? The ottomans gave them refuge...Had it been not for the generosity of the ottomans,all of balkan would speak turkish and say azan today.
NUEVO HEMRES “Being a Turk is hard you fight against the world. Not being a Turk is harder , you fight against the Turks”
They didn't have Turkish Airlines back then.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
what,,, is there something i’m missing or is this the lamest joke ever
@@3alaiyer who hurt u :(
LoL, good one
@@almira4745 His Mommy :,(
If Ottoman colonized USA :
New Yozgat
Los Ankara
Mardniami
Las Vangas
Siirteatlle
@Antoine Shelby we are not arab, and we have never used these words BRUHH...
Laz Vegas
@Antoine Shelby lmfao
Antoine Shelby your name would have been Ahmed
Hahahaha as a Turk, I would confirm this would be 100% true.
It is not nessecary to search for New lands, when you already have control of trading with East.
Makes sense.
Unknow to them the new trade routes made the old ones less important
@@El-Silver its not less important, its still very important. But the ottoman empire was a hostile power for the christian kingdoms of europe, so they instead chose the other routes which are significantly longer, but tax free.
Yep, back in the day it just looked like a risky investment.
Yes Exactly, Europeans who could not control the trade routes were looking for another way to go to India. Meanwhile, they accidentally discovered America.
it is perhaps worth mentioning, from a historian's perspective, that the americas were less profitable than india and china until the 20th century. this is usually overseen, if you are not an academic historian, or familiar with economics. although spain became rich thanks to the silver mines of the americas, it was still inferior to both india and china until today. we, westerners, often overestimate the wealth of the americas, although it should be clear that the heavily populated and developed empires of south and east asia, especially the indian sub continent and china, were the number 1 and 2 wealthiest economies until 1850 for good reasons. yes, great britain became the world's biggest economical power only after it took large portions of india, and after it defeated china, and then won in the second industrial revolution (around 1850).
Yes, it was super unnecessary for the Ottomans because they had everything back then.
wow!
@@celdur4635 the gold and silver only led to inflation or as the casus belli of Opium War had shown, just unsustainable commodity compared to the wealth and bulk of Asian industry products.
Think about how tough would it be to even get some silver and gold from the Americas back even if they succeeded, they would still face raids and attacks against the Spanish, they would have their colonies constantly under threat by the Spanish, and the Portuguese, I mean sooner or later it would be knocked out of the game no?
are you really sure?. There were many products from the americas that replaced indian and china products some were even of higher quality and cheaper. England was big because of India and china? Yes maybe but not mainly for the products of those places. As far as I remember England mayor economy income came in the form of manufactured objects being clothes one of the most profitable thing they exported everywhere. They not only sell their clothes to Europe but they sell it to all of their colonies and non colonies, the same with tea and else.
So, Venize had a monopoly to buy things from Mamluks who had also a monopoly? No wonder spices were expensive as hell at the time, double monopoloy plus the transport fees XD
Everyone needs money my brother
@@vonxoliver It's not a judgement or a critique ;)
@@krankarvolund7771 i know
Then British came and took it with five finger discount
@@order_truth_involvement6135 Trade nodes are in EU IV no? ^^
Outstanding - I am sorry I missed this in July, what a great look into some overlooked history!
They only sought to destroy the Fountain of Youth, with help from a Scottish knight and a pirate
Ah, another man of culture!
And accidentaly, the scottish knight, out of curiousity, manage to drink it
and of course to fight against the circle
A ship has arrived from Malta!
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I don't know who does your art and editing for these videos but they are becoming ridiculously high quality. They are almost as interesting to watch as the stories themselves! Kudos!
Agree, I thought they couldn't improve their quality more but they are improving their animations and overall quality every week
The only thing of Turkish origin that colonized Latin America was his TV series
And its immigrants. There's a bunch of Arabs in Latin America. Carlos Slim "from Mexico" is the fifth-richest person in the world. Nayib Bukele is the President of El Salvador. And Shakira's family is from Lebanon.
@Ben Ova Vast majority of immigrants from the Ottoman Empire in Latin America are Arabs. They are mostly Lebanese and Palestinian Christians, who are Arab, such as the Maronites.
@@UmaiAna98 Fool yourself, the Ottoman is mostly Turkish. Not even a small minority of Arabs in Turkey do not even now you can observe not only the Kurds as a minority nobody else
There is no such a thing as Turkish diaspora in Latin America. All of them are christians of ottoman empire. Mostly levantines but also Armenians.
Samsunlu 55 It‘s false to say that today the majority of turkish people just have middle eastern roots. There are also greek roots. Generally considered, there is a proper mixing.
i read history a lot and i think i am capable of analyzing it in modest level.
So as a turkish person i can tell that this video is the most accurate and precise source to suggest to people even in turkey...congrats my friends, following you since 2017... love u :)
Your history ia far greater than most people know.
@@JRobbySh not really. turkish history isnt nearly as old or as “great” as other nations
@@hayots_lernashkharh what do you mean by that? Don't get that in a negativ way i'm just curious.
@@hayots_lernashkharh Check out this clown. Nobody said anything about other nations/civilizations. Just a statement that it is great, which it is.
@@hayots_lernashkharh why are you mad
And why isn't it great
Ottomans: We control the spice routes!
Europeans: We got cocaine!
hahaha ^^
China: We got opium!
Still China: Wait shi-
😀😀😀 We got cocaine.
And this is how *Crab Rave™* began.
Gold = Cocaine, apparently
“He who controls the spice, controls the universe “
The spice must flow
What happened if He is a She
@@fathfez7991 controlling women is first step in becoming a civilization. All over the world it's same
well, Indonesia have spice.
Ah, I see you're a man of culture as well.
People tend to forget that creating a transocean empire was a remarkably difficult task and, contrary to the common belief, they consumed more resources than could be benefited from. France failed in creating a sustainable colony, England needed over a century and The Netherlands only created little more than commercial posts. The Otomans never had a realistic chance.
Interesting statement.
i wonder how space colonization will turn out
I think the French simply never bothered enough about America. Their main concern was always France's place in Western Europe, hence Napoleon's cavalier abandonment of Louisiana just so he could focus on Europe.
You make it sound as if it wasn't a good deal for the colonizers and they spent more wealth on the colonies than they extracted from them. That is a preposterous statement. Obviously not true, as it is not sane nor natural for humans to go against their self interest. You're also suggesting that it was a 'too difficult task' for the ottomans, even though the video clearly shows that it was difficult because of very specific reasons, not because they lacked the ability. Your comment is reeking of racism in many ways, against ottomans, against colonized people, and frankly, it's pathetic. It's obvious that the western europeans, due to their geographic advantage, got to colonize and that created the wealth and the success of their societies in the following centuries. Without the riches of faraway lands, who knows, they would probably all be colonized by Ottomans instead, as the eastern europe already had! It is truly chillingly pathetic and racist that you think of colonization as an 'accomplishment', a 'difficult task' the western europeans had undertaken and succeeded in. Why? Why would that be? Are they superior, smarter human beings? Cause that's clearly what you are trying to imply only you are too much of a coward to say it out directly. Truly pathetic. Hate your kind of racists. If you're going to be one, have the balls to be one openly .
@@dailybls cringe
Just wanted to say how high-quality this channel is!
Two things are missing in this video:
Columbus asked Ottoman Sultan Bayezid II for sponsorship to his project, which was declined. (However, i am informed that this story is fabricated later by Evliya Çelebi in 17th century)
Hayreddin Barbarossa suggested venturing to Americas, which the Grand Vizier Ibrahim Pasha declined, stating that "The Empire should focus on dominating the Mediterranean and Indian Ocean.
Thank you for your information
Yok lan öyle bir şey evliya çelebinin götünden uydurduğu bir hikaye o bayezid hikayesi :D ilber hocanın kendisi bile söyledi geçenlerde
@Emir Eser
Dumb decisions? The Americas were basically a goose chase after Indian riches.
The Ottomans HAD Indian riches and instead focused on controlling it
@Emir Eser Dumb decisions falan yok bu arada. İlk söylediği hiç olmamış bir hikaye ikincisi ise hayreddin istese bile hangi gemiyle gidicekler amerikaya? Kürekli kadırgalarla koca okyanusu aşması teknik olarak mümkün değil sanki ibrahim izin verse gidebileceklerdi :D Okyanusta gemi yüzdürmek tamamen farklı bir konu ve Osmanlı donanması bu konu hakkında bir tecrübeye sahip değildi hiçbir zamanda olamadı zaten. Portekiz gibi denizci ülkenin bile kıyıdan kıyıdan afrikanın burnuna ulaşması için kaç tane denizci öldü gitti bir sürü sefer yapıldı öyle geminin ucunu Amerikaya çevirince varmıyorsun oraya.
@Emir Eser not dumb, but unnecessary. First, why the hell you need to sponsor an enemy traveler?
second, Ottoman already controlling Indian sea and old trade routes, venturing Americas would be expensive and risky since Spain and Morocco are controlling the Gibraltar. Ottoman empire is too fragile for another expansion
Geographical disadvantages is the main reason behind all of this
*Reads title*
Me: "They had Otto tings to do."
evil pun but good pun none the less
@@marcus4046 Tanks
They couldn't cross the Atlantic in their Ottomobile.
Get out
Haha
Ottomans🇹🇷: we want to see the atlantic ocean.
Morocco🇲🇦: go see it in national geographic, its so beautiful.
@@revivalist355 We defendend ourselves, we fought just like the mamluks, the persians did. The only difference between us and theme, that we won, and the fell on the ottoman colonization. The ottomans imposed taxes on every people they colonize, like they were khawarij.
We saw it already for centuries you french dog research 1576
@@walid8108You moan about the ottomans yet you ignore the kufri states of the modern world 🤡 🤡 🤡
And then we'll talk about why no Austrian Colonies...
Shame there's no James bizenette
Austrians had their own empire to colonize
@E Fig True, the Habsburg monarchy controlled both spain and Austria, but I dont think the many Austrians or broadly speaking citizens of the HRE would choose to move away from their home land.
I think they had colony in North Borneo
@@fritz404 you mean the philippines ?
Great video!
Thanks!
Ottomans were surrounded by predatory empires. Uk geography was a blessing.
Opens my eyes a bit. Were we on easy mode?
@Chat noir Explain me, biggest predator by what? Taking taxes? LOL
"Geography is destiny."
- Ibn khaldun
@Chat noir
Islam fights all religions.
So it was good ottoman empire broke.
@Booter Shooter you corward choping off peoples head reilgon of peace my ass.
Don't know why the Turkish historians don't focus on this topic. Best video so far on this topic! Unfortunately the Ottoman Empire is very unknown to the Europeans although they changed the history remarkeble. Thanks you for introducing them!
The 'Calif of California' would have been a cool title, but they would have called the place something else anyway.
Hahaha, we call it Kaliforniya.
California is actually derived from an arabic-spanish hybrid word and though the ottomans are Turks they used a lot of Arabic at that time so maybe could have stayed that way lol
Caliopornia sounds nice , Calif of Calipornia would be legendary
Los Angeles = Al-Malaikat?
@Liberty Constitution Legacy Ah yes, the Taqiyyalies of WMDs.
They didn’t colonize it because of today’s sponsor Raid: Shadow Legends
hahahaha XD
Explain
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@@MrLowrevia they didn't want the raid ads to be in their language
Believe or not, Muslims have only one actual goal " Just To Spread True Religion The Islam To All Humanity". Colonization is unknown to Them.
I've literally been waiting for somebody to make a video explaining exactly this topic for years, thanks so much you guys i love your channel! :D
Excellent choice of background music.
I see there are people with insider k knowledge on the OE.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
This feels tautological. The reason for the Iberian interest in the Americas was the Ottoman conquests in the East (which blocked access to the Indian ocean). How could the Ottomans be motivated to head West across the Atlantic if the motivation to do so was to arrive where they already were?
I think the debate was more, why didn't they at least attempt a smaller less expensive incursion into the new world and the reason was because it wasn't sustainable. They either went through Spain&Portugals backyard or they sailed all the way around Africa. As the video mentioned they also were experiencing a great many growing pains due to their expansion into Europe and Africa.
Exactly. They had discovered the world was round and they thought they could get to India by going around in the opposite direction and would arrive at the same place.
@@adrianalainez8499 They're separate continents. Saying they're the same continent is like saying Europe and Asia are the same continent.
@@adrianalainez8499 lol k
@@jonathanlondon4265 Depends on what country you're in.
Some recognize 4, others 8. Some have the Americas as one, or Eurasia as one, and others don't. Some (cough) don't even recognize Oceania.
Spain: "Never thought I would fight side by side with an islamite..."
Saadi Morocco: "What about fighting alonside someone who also hate the Ottomans?"
Spain: "Aye, I can do that..."
Word thise sayddi allied with spain aganist ottoman for the sake of interests so ottoman dont invade their country lol..both were scared from ottoman 😅
@@aqqoyunlu1203 That's what led to the Anglo-Moroccan alliance.
"Spain: "Never thought I would fight side by side with an islamite..."" They never said that in the first place. ;)
Morocco was in a pricurious situation in one side there is the inbeleivers in iberia which they were the rivals of the moroccan empires for centries , on the other side the enormous ottoman war machine in the Est was threathning moroccan independance . The saadi didnt ally themselves with spain but with portugal and were crushed in the battle of the three kings by the ottoman backed branch if the saadis
Lotr quote?
The Ottomans were fat and happy with their existing trade routes. They didn’t have any need to peruse alternate routes to Asia. Western Europe was hungry and had reasons to seek alternate trade routes.
Another reason was that they couldn't even expel the Portuguese from India, if they wanted they couldn't even do that they wouldn't be able to do something against Spain and Portugal in the New World.
@Ibrahim Somali They expelled the Portugese from encroaching further but they didn't manage to drive the portugese off from their trade routes and didn't break portugese naval supremacy
They were content trading with the indians in the east. But the golds and silvers from the americas slowly strangled the ottoman economy (due to inflation) which would eventually lead to their decline.
Leo Scarpe The people of Hungary recall this differently.
Leo Scarpe I only claim to speak on behalf of the people Hungarian people who spoke to me on the issue. I’m quite sure the people of Turkey see it differently. The victors usually do recall things differ fly than the victims.
Este canal es sencillamente excelente!
As a Turkish guy myself I am curious about this subject. There are some theories about it. First Ottomans were a land Empire beacuse of their Central asian steppe origins. Seafaring traditions started by first Turkish admiral Çaka Bey but not continued after his murder by Seljuk Sultan. After that Barbarossa made Ottomans rulers of the Mediterrenean and built a strong navy but failed to persuade the İbrahim Pasha to sailing to the New world. Also the Janisseries were influential on Ottomans war policy and they insisted on conquering the Hungary and Vienna. But most importantly Ottomans had trade routes from İndia and China to İstanbul. They think it is too little to gain with going to such faraway lands. And it was not easy because of Spanish naval force on Gibraltar and Mediterrenean. Lastly Ottomans failed in İndian Ocean campains in Suleiman the Magnificents time beceause their ships were Kadırga not Galleons suited for voyaging the oceans. If you have any other ideas please let me now🙂
Let's be honest, they had they're hands full colonizing Egypt, Eastern Europe, and the Arabian Peninsula as well as being imperialistic in India, Indonesia, & Morocco. England, France, Spain, etc. didn't have their hands quite as full in the old world before they started their own efforts in colonialism & imperialism in The New World & Africa.
I say this empire to former empire of course; I'm fully aware of the USA's history of colonialism, imperialism, and its current neo-imperialist (hopefully future as well (What can I say, I bleed red, white, and blue & I'm not ready to had everything over to China yet.).) tendencies.
@@patrickblanchette4337
Dude what Ottoman's did wasn't colonising.
Colonising equals to exploiting but Ottoman Empire clearly never exploited.
For example taxes from Balkans they took were lower than the money they invested to there.
Their ideology was spreading islam.
So they only conquered but no exploiting.
Also this is one of the reasons of not going that far.
Not only because america is far but also because in the lands they are governing people weren't asimilated or so...
So it was difficult to rule.
While they were challenging hard with those problems no opportunity was left for other huge issues.
jason mcallister Who are you insulting? Did you mean to post this reply in another comment thread?
Muhammet Emin DİNÇER Would you say that expanding into the Balkans was the Ottoman’s version of Manifest Destiny? I mean, I could also say that America clearly wanted to spread freedom in South America, Iraq, and Vietnam, but regardless of whether that’s true or not, at the end of the day, we intervened in those places for our own benefits first and foremost (Economically, politically, religious, etc.). It’s what all empires do; it doesn’t make those nations mustache-twirling supervillains; just very human. I’m also not trying to knock the Ottomans down a peg; they were an interesting and cool empire (plus they invented military bands!🎶). I’m just saying that all empires expand to benefit themselves.
@@patrickblanchette4337 ofcourse there will be benefit from expanding the borders.
But can you say that USA made more investment (i mean for flourishing the country) than the money they got feom Iraq?
The archieves say that Ottoman invested for flourishing Balkans more than the revenue from those countries.
What do you understand from this?
More, when British, Spanish or the others invaded america there was a systematic slaughters against natives.
Can you show an evidence that Ottoman did any systematic slaughter against Balkans and others? Let me say: Never!
We know this from archieves and also from the demografik structure of the post Ottoman countries and their languages.
They are like never ruled by ottomans.
These show us that those people lived the same way in Ottoman rule as before.
Shame that the great naval Battle of Diu, between the Portuguese and the Ottomans, wasn't even mentioned in this video. It would be awesome to see it covered in this channel one day.
They consider it to be sign of power of the Ottomans when in 1654 we lost the battle of Aceh in the other end of the world, however when a country with less than 1.5 million people like us created forts under their noses in Ormuz, Muscate, Socotra Island is considered irrelevant xD. Yet they didnt ever built forts in any atlantic island anytime nor in the western coast of Africa whatsoever.
K&G said they would do ottoman-portuguese wars sometime later.
They should cover when madeira was pillaged by the ottomans and the entire population was taken in slavery
i love how y'all used the ottoman national anthems in the background
That was not a national anthem, it’s a 19th century song titled “Üsküdara gideriken” (or “Katibim”). Ottomans did not have a national anthem as it wasn’t an empire based on nationalism. The concept of “national anthem” is very new in history.
@@boratokel9301 ottomans had anthem. check "mecidiye marşı"
MrHL5 No, “Mecidiye Marşı” is not a national anthem. It is, as in the name, a “marş”. Ottoman Empire was, as in the name, an (dynastic) empire, not a national entity, hence no national anthem. There are many “marş” pieces but regardless of their popularity at the time none of them was an official “national anthem”.
He use a civ VI music too. Arabia medieval theme, in the end
@@campbelldutch75 Jesus, peace be upon hım, is not the god. He is the messenger and the light to humankind sent by God, before Muhammed, peace be upon him. They both say the same thing. Love, forgive, don't kill, don't steal, basically don't be a jerk is the message. And you know what? You are being a jerk!
This is the way we make history videos too, short & sweet! We love this channel!
This is by far the most eloquent historical and economics description of the monumental historical events in Europe and the Middle East in the 16th Century. Thank you.
The reason is a little something called the "straits of Gibraltar" :D
Neither the Spanish nor the Moroccans would let them pass
That is it, all in a nutshell.
Except Morrocans would let them pass considering that Ottomans are the Caliph and if thats not enough They are littearly neighboors so brute force is always an option
@@Val-ng2um The Moroccans would never let them pass ! The Turks tried to take over twice ... the north Africans also had quite a presence near Gibraltar constantly harassing Spain and Portugal but hated the Turks more for they saw their attack as a betrayal to the trust they put into them being both Muslims and all (read about it really fun subject)
@@denzelsmashsymptom4264 quite. The Morrocans were almost enemies of the Turks. They were more like rivals with the Spaniards and the Portuguese.
well they freaquently passed the strait. They just did it for raiding Christian lands.
Fun Fact, Jack Sparrow is inspired by the Ottoman Admiral Jack Ward (later Yusuf Reis). :)
Also there are Ottomans in few scenes in the Movie.
Not true
Jack Sparrow is inspired by various pirates in Caribbean including the infamous & flamboyant Jack Rackham a.k.a. "Calico Jack". While his characterizations and mannerism are inspired by Keith Richards from rock band Rolling Stones and Pepé Le Pew from cartoon Looney Tunes.
Jack Ward was only operating in Tunis or Mediterranean Sea, which clearly has different environment and warfare style than the Caribbean.
And some "foreign" looking pirate crews in Jack Sparrow's fleet can be interpreted as Indians. We can also see African and Asian-looking crews in some scenes.
@@Cyan_Nightingale What I have said is %100 true. Muslim North Africans were calling Jack Ward "Asfur" which translates to "Sparrow". Jack Sparrow. 😉 because he was obsessed with Sparrows and he had so many pets. Research is good mate.
@@Cyan_Nightingale Its inspired by Jack Ward, but of course in Carribean Style and Culture. HE CARRIES A CRESCENT MOON AND STAR EAR RING, which is also a symbol of Islam and that time the Ottoman Empire. 😉😊
Many years ago during my first undergraduate polisci class, this was one of my biggest WTF questions.
I appreciate your channel!!!
History matters and Especially James Bizzanet would be outraged that kings and generals did a video on the same topic they did a video on quite a while ago
I think SPINNING THREE PLATES is the one you should fear.
What a man of culture
Party boyko
Lol, compared to most communities on RUclips, the history/grand strategy game community is pretty endearing and actually pleasant.
We are running out of topics in this network of history-related creators. I do not know how many versions of Caesar's sieges or Byzantine-Sassanid tribulations I have already watched.
Generally it's the countries with lots of wealth but little land area who colonise across oceans, the Greek cities, England Venice and Portugal are good examples
I wouldn't really classify the 3 great colonizer nations as little lands area... Spain, France and England were all much larger than say.. Florence, Venice or Genoa. I think a much more important attribute was stability and ease of access to the Atlantic ocean.
@@jonathanlondon4265 european countries in europe are actually quite small compared to many other countries we have these days
@@xXxSkyViperxXx They're not quite small... maybe if compared to like Russia or the USA or China. If we're going off population, Germany, the UK, France and Italy are the 19th, 21st, 22nd and 23rd highest population countries respectively. Regardless, modern nation states in Africa and South America are only the size they are due to the interference of the colonizers as they organized territory into easier managed sections.
@@jonathanlondon4265 there you have it, u said it. big population, little land, of course theyll go out colonizing
@@xXxSkyViperxXx ???? They went out colonizing because they had direct access to the Atlantic ocean. It had nothing to do with overall population.
So the only question that remains is, why didn't the Ottomans colonize Australia?
The emus man... the fucking emus.
The scourge of mankind
And the military and musical prowess of Rolf Harris were important too.
@@jax2728 They landed janissaries, saw the emus, and noped the fuck outta there haha I like this version :)
Because their enemy, the Mamluks, got there first.
Awesome video! I love watching your content when I wake up and any time I eat.
Did anyone else notice the East Indies theme at 12:40 from Anno 1404? I'm so glad you picked that, it's a great song and the perfect vibe for this part of the video.
"Why did the Ottomans never colonize the Americas?"
Try shipping thousands of colonists, and their supplies, *through the Spanish-controlled Strait of Gibraltar.*
Through Egypt you mean and then through the bab al mandeb down the swahili coast to south Africa
Colonize that and booms straight to southern region of the Americas (argentina, Uruguay, south chile)
Expand north
Or around Africa, or across the pacific :)
@@adrianbundy3249 @Yuri Tarded Problem with those plans would be that all of these areas were already controlled by the Portugese Navy and it would have been easier for the ottomans to sail straight through the Strait of Gibraltar than to sail through the portugese armada
@@JasonDoe1000 It was a joke, I didn't think it was feasible for them. Hence the :) when agreeing with the disagreement with the Ottoman chances.
But no, I do disagree with the thing being hardest with the other routes being having to go against the Portuguese, vs Gilbratar. No, they probably would have had to contend with both, in any eventuality. As it was, their issue was needing to upgrade to having a better navy, with better ships, which they didn't have. If they did, then they could confront them in either ocean, but then the biggest factor would have been the distance and logistics of such voyages to places like the new world, via the African or Indian ocean channels, where they simply weren't there at that time. And needing an entirely new class of boats from their navy to be able to do it. If they could get through the straights, it at least would have been a LITTLE more economical. That is taking the military angle out of it; but as it was, it simply wasn't feasible.
@@JasonDoe1000 ottomans were already at war with the portuguese in the horn of africa
There lack of care for expanding is what made suleiman give up the war effort
Ironically they defeated the portuguese and even took back the coastal cities of pate, lamu and Mombasa
There were alot of muslims in the horn of Africa and swahili coast
Yet there lack of care for expanding into the region is their problem
Hey even helped somalis defeat and take over 3/4 of ethiopian highlands aswell as defeat the Portuguese
If they wanted to that route would have been possible for them
Portugal swiftly took back the swahili coast after sending for reinforcements from india
Really glad you mentioned Peter Frankopan's book. It is the most intricate, detailed piece of historical document/book I have read so far. It's almost comically detailed and he manages to set the full picture through extensive, but very intriguing descriptions. The author covers not only the immediate geographical regions of the the silk road, far from it, it is merely used symbolic and as an anchor point, the book ventures through internal politics, trade over the oceans, warfare, aristocratic attitudes, quotes on internal and foreign affairs and so much more. It is a book that covers the linking dots more or less all over the world.
Thank you for your time :)
Actually the ottomans did try venture into the new world, and we're in fact aided by a renegade contingent of Maltese hospitaller knights and Inca prisoners. They were commanded by Sahin 'the falcon' to stop the secret society known as the 'circle of ossus' and successfully defeated them by destroying the fountain of youth. There's a great interactive documentary about it called 'Age of Empires III'
I was just play that ... i forgot about that campaign
Not colombus found the America land ITS the Muslim 5 century before colombus
Aoe 3 wars of liberty is also awesome
@@gursimarsingh5505 agreed. I hope they add the Sikh confederacy
@@zubersingh yes. I also hope. A modder has already made sikh confederacy but it is a mod that we have to install. I hope they do some changes and add the mod( mod means modification) in aoe3 wars of liberty.
I like how Civ V and Civ Vi music are used
I’m so early the Northman had just arrived in Vineland
I’m so early Istanbul is still called Constantinople
@@TurquazCannabiz I'm so early Constantinople is still called Byzantium
@@btsnake Byzantium is the term called by the HRE. Eastern Roman Empire is the correct naming.
Basil Syed I am so early, I was with the founder of Byzantium colonist
i find kings and generals to be the best unbiased & thorough source of information on ottoman history, a subject so delicate and complicated many history enthusiasts on this platform have failed while attempting to explain.
What an alternate history would be if the Ottoman Empire managed to establish a Muslim state in the Americas.
That's a good point, economically they will be over powered...
And the native American Indian would live and be Muslims, or stay with there religion.
A lot would happen...
That would be bad
@@YassuYasen well, they fought a battle to conquer Spain, and another with the french but they lost the last one, probably they would have tried to conquer all the territory and the convert the locals to the Islam, like in Spain
Why war and bother, her children will surrender america few centuries down the age
@@YassuYasen a lot of empires with an official religion extended their religion with conquer, the roman empire, the spanish empire, the ottoman empire, etc...
That is very common, all what i said is based in history, you said that Islam would spread peacufully in a foreign land with allmost no contact with Islam before (like france and spain) but based in history that is not true, you need to chill a bit
Too good. Very clear and good explanation. I love history and especially your videos they are beautifully designed and just too interesting.
I love ceddin deden in the background
its actually "Üsküdar'a gider iken" ..not "ceddin deden" :)
@enes akhan No, it is ceddin deden mostly...
@@muratozdemir7729 ohh i thought he meant the last part
Pink Lemonade the song is only 100 years old...
@@anlyuksel2194 Turks ruled Arabs for more than 1000 years. Turkiye 💪🏼
Imagine Latino’s but they speak Turkish and have Turkish names 😂
Wow
ottomans didnt force other nations to change their language or religion so it would still stay gonzalez lol
😂😂😂
Sohrab The Socialist yea might be but first spanish colonized there thats why i said that .
Alexandros Var blood tax ? they needed soldiers and many christian families were happy that their kids will grow up in palaces . Lets talk in general . Look at the colonizations of england france and compare with ottomans you should be happy that u controlled by ottomans if you are still able to talk your language and practice your religion. I know you have butthurt you cant look from that perspective.
2:30 The anime and manga "Altair: A Record of Battles" (Shoukoku no Altair) made many references about this. The protagonist (who is a pasha, a general, of the Turkiye Stratocracy) made friends with the Doce of Venice (Venedik).
The manga and anime was roughly based on the Ottoman Empire (Mehmed II), its relationship with other countries and its competition with the Holy Roman Empire (or Balt-Rhein Empire).
wtf? japan is crazy these days
@@Kermit1040-T Try reading it :)
Great video, that shows the importance of straits control which remains priority for superpowers to our modern day
Great Stuff!
The thumbnail makes it kind of look like they are urinating on a map of the world...no just me?
Rhor yep
Lmao
Lol🤣
LOL
LOL
Short answer : they didn't need too, they were already so powerful and had their own inland empire.
I wouldn’t say “so powerful”. As described by K&G near the end of this video, their massive territory became their own folly aswell - as they continue to skirmish in the Hungarian and Persian border against their many enemies, aswell as the unending battles for control in the Meditterannean Sea. Once the Westerners bought so much gold from the New World, they created influx in Ottoman Empire thus limiting their projection of power until the day of Ottoman’s inevitable decline.
Ruthieal true. That’s how Rome fell.
Most of that empire was sand dunes though
@@RaferJeffersonIII 200,000,000 population in modern times, not to mention many civilaszitions in world history in north africa, I wouldn't call it "just sand dunes"
HiImEtai didnt contribute anything to the world. Other than sex slavery.
Sand dunes, and the Quran. That’s pretty much it.
Chopping off male slaves genitals.
Trafficking women from the caucus.
Horrifically barbaric society.
I liked how you used Ceddin Deden as a background song. Good video, keep up your great work! Also lots of love from Turkey.
Battle of Diu: victory of the Portuguese naval, heralded the end of the old trading giants and led to centuries of European naval and trade dominance, that shaped the modern world.
Everything has an End my friend, would not be surprised to see those Arabs kicking back in some centuries from now !
That is why we should never underestimate an enemy even during their time of despair ...
@@denzelsmashsymptom4264 Turks arent Arabs though. They actually ruled the arabs.
But true. But at this age, it was the Portuguese and the Spanish who opened alternatives and the gates for the European domination of the world. The portuguese are so underrated at this period, they had huge wins so far away from home against Asians and even Europeans, in a battle they even defeated Turkish, Venician and Indian forces.
but they were driven out of the Red Sea and Aden
That battle was made by an angry father that wanted to avenge the son death, ignored the Portuguese king orders
@عبد الرحمان بن محمد العامري nice cherry picking on wikipedia, mate
Ottomans however did (try) to colonize and integrate Indonesia - There was a state called *Aceh* its constructed and supported by the Ottomans - if they advanced Ottomans May be arrive to Australia and maybe even new zealand
really? wow thats quite interesting can you explain more? im quite intrigued
Before venturing towards Australia, they might had to fight neighbouring Buddhist and Hindu states and maybe even Ming China
They have sumtra island but i think they haven’t have a good navy after lapento and the holy league was a big problem
@@lanellevydiantheofillus4531 Look at the development of [Aceh Sultanate] The Ottomans actually reached the Indonesia throughtly
No, the Ottomans had a diplomatic mission there, and accepted the vassalage of the Sultanate of Aceh, by accepting Aceh's recognition of the Ottomans as Caliph. But Aceh already existed. It was not founded by the Ottomans. There was no Turkish colonization.
In fact the Iceland invasion was from small city known as Sale in Morocco the autonomous leader give 10% of wealth to the saadi sultan zidan
The history of some of those maps is pretty crazy. The made them from some unknown ancient sources and referenced antarctica correctly without it having been officially discovered until the 1800's
Yeah! I had seen somewhere the Byzantines (or early Ottomans, can't remember which one) had actually followed Africa south and just kept going. They brought back sweet maps. Seeing all the ice were like, "Yup, thats the bottom"
Ottomans are already to OP, not giving them colonialism is a balanced nerf
Yes you were trying to joke, but do you even realize what an empire is? It's just a country colonizing others
[;' Ottoman Empire didnt colonise. Colonisation is taking over a land and replacing natives with your people. Ottoman Empire didn’t do this.
@@user-wq9mw2xz3j True mate, but partially. Can you find me just one Country that speaks Turkey Turkish other than Turkey today ? Unlike e.g France, Spain, Portugal or Britain , Ottomans were nicer to the other Cultures.
@@kamilhd2280
I guess you people never heard of what happened to Constantinople. Or is it normal for Turkey to just whitewash the shit out of their own history?
@@zeonmx What happended to Constantinople? It got taken and over time the turkish population grew, I wonder why, maybe because the ottomans were turkish based empire?
The maps in this episode are the best to date. I love maps to an unhealthy degree. I need help. I need map rehab. I’m a map addict. Who needs pornography when you have geography? Mmmm maps.
ahah exactly the same, looking at maps for hours and still desire to have and look at more more maps
Me too
Great video, I have just one correction to do. Brazil was discovered by Pedro Alvares Cabral instead Columbus
Ottomans were the real cause of colonialism
Ottomans blocked the trade route between Europe and India, China. Ao in order to find new trade routes to India and China Portugal and Spain were the first to discover new routes and establishing colonies in the Americas and Africa and than Asia followed by Britain, Netherlands and France
Nobody:
Kings and Generals: Why the Aztecs never conquered Sub Sahara Africa.
pickledbushman actually this is a big question (f*** Selim the second)
look Pan Turks are part of main sponsers of K&Gs
Reza Pouya lol
*Why the Aztecs never conquered Sub Saharan Africa?
*reconquered
the question can be answered just by looking at a map: to have colonies in the Americas they needed to have access to the Atlantic Ocean and they didn't - specifically, they didn't control Gibraltar. Had Morocco been part of the Ottoman Empire, they would have a chance, but Morocco was independent
But not trying harder to conquer Morocco after the initial setbacks is already part of the question. That the map in the Maghreb looked like it did, needs to be explained as well.
@@varana The trade routes the Ottomans controlled in the Middle East and in Eastern Europe were profitable enough...to reach the Atlantic they needed to control the Western Mediterranean first and that meant costly battles with France and Spain
There was no such thing as Morocco back then
@@andres6868 Exactly - my point was that "well, just look at a map, they didn't have access to the Atlantic, d'uh" is not a sufficient explanation. It also needs to be explained _why_ they did not have access to the Atlantic.
Mazing Morocco no I’m not stupid your country didn’t exist back then it was created by the French
I don't exactly know why, but every videos about the Ottomans with these traditional like music and things seems and sounds so calming.
Clearly multiple actions are needed in order to achieve reform, because despite all the economic crisis. This is still go of time to start up an investment.
Add financial crisis to the mix and you get a lot of desperation.Why is life expectancy falling?
What is really happening to the world Economy? Economy crisis everywhere🤦♂️.
@@devinclifford8144 The real estate industry crackdown clipped Evergrande's wings, stopped it taking on more debt and had the flow-on effect of forcing it to sell apartments at a discount so cash would continue rolling in.
Evergrande is worried it won't be able to sell apartments quickly enough to meet its debt repayments.
Real estate makes up a substantial share - more than a quarter - of China's economy, which is the second largest in the world.
Suleiman also ordered the execution of Piri Reis because of his incompetency against the Portuguese.
Like the Empire against the rebellion in a sense
It's no the best idea to fucking kill your only genius map maker
Not their fault
@@goodluck2119 They probably thought that they could find another 1
Poor man, its like when Stalin excuted Palvov, despite he give warnings and wanted to move troops to the border. It wasnt his fault.
Same thing, the Portuguese was simply superior at the sea at this period.
This is so fascinating. In school we are given the impression of a sequestered ancient world with individual bubbles that were only opened, or "discovered" by European explorers. But to see how interconnected everything was so early on gives a much better view.
@İnsan I'm not European, I'm from Argentina. It's just what we were taught, no way around it. In China they teach a very China centric history too, it's just natural for each country to do.
Will the channel cover the battle of Diu in 1509 one day? I heard it was as consequential to the Indian Ocean as Trafalgar was.
It was probably even more consequential than trafalgar. I mean diu happened roughly 3 centuries prior to trafalgar so of course the battle of diu had the "time" to have a hingher influence in history so right there it's hard to judge importance. But that aside both battles impacts boil down to:
- DIU: caused the effective end of the era of muslim and indian domination of the trade routes of the indic ocean, and introduced new trade routes that led to the displacement of wealth from the arabs to the portuguese and later other colonial powers (the europeans would go on to control the indic ocean for roughly, the next 4 centuries). One example of the impact of this battle is the mamluks that ended up loosing one of their main sources of wealth and ended up becoming easier prey for the ottomans since now they could not finance the stunning armies of old, for all we now the mamlucks might well have won the war with ottomans if not for this battle.
-TRAFALGAR: forced napoleon to keep itself to the european continent without a proper navy to not only invade Britain but also keep the british navy from aiding napoleons enemies. Although not the most crucial, this was one of events that led to the fall of napoleon. This batte also heavily contributed to the rise of the british navy to the point it was the most powerful navy in the world for roughly a century.
The battle of diu was one of the most important and consequetial battles in the world. It flipped everything. It ended the reign of the muslim world, consolidated the first global empire, allowed europeans to frerly rule the waves and go to america, asia. This even had consequences on the russian alternative of silk road in the north.
The Battle of Diu is among the 10 most important battles of humanity. She practically founded the global Portuguese empire. Even better, one motivation was the desire for revenge of Dom Francisco De Almeida, the Viceroy, for the death of his son.
Thank you so much for uploading this video. It is helping me get through the pandemic!
I love this map design !
Why the ottomans didnt colonise, or "The Early History of the Portugese Empire"
The Portugese and Spanish learned
how to be extremely brutal when
they began the Reconquista. That
trait enabled them to build empires.
@Gantz akira
What do you call the conquest of the
Byzantine and Persian empires, the
conquest of northern Africa, the
conquest of Hispania, the conquest
of the Balkans?
In each of the above cases, those
who fought against or who did not
cooperate with the Muslims -- i.e
either convert or become second
class citizens and double - taxed
("Dhimni") were murdered and enslaved.
The resources of those territories were
used by the ruling Muslims by and for
the ruling Muslims.
Here's a few (not all) of the battles:
Rashidun Siege of Jerusalem (636-637 AD/CE)
Rashidun Seige of Alexandria, Egypt (641 AD)
Umayyad Conquest of Iberian Peninsula (711 -- 726 AD)
[ *Christian Reconquista (711 -- 1492)* ]
[ *Battle of Tours, France -- Charles Martel (732 AD)* ]
Battle of Mohács -- Suleiman the Magnificent. (1526)
[ *Seige of Vienna -- Ferdinand 1st, Holy Roman Emperor (1529)* ]
[ *Battle of Vienna -- Christian Coalltion[1] (1683)* ]
____________________________________________________
1.) Christian Coallition (1683)
*Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth* -- King John III Sobieski
........ (Supreme Commander of the Christian Coalition Army)
*Holy Roman Empire* -- Emperor Joseph 1st
...... Austria
...... Bavaria
...... Bohemia Bohemian Crown
...... Franconia
...... Saxony
...... Swabia
*Hapsburg Hungary* -- Leopold 1st
*Wallachia* (secretly allied) -- Prince Șerban Cantacuzino
...... Wallachians didn't like the Ottoman Turks. Their most
...... famous king was Vlad III of Wallachia (also known as
...... Vlad the Impaler), who ruled from 1448 -- 1477.
...... Unfortunately for Wallachia (Later part of modern
...... Romania) and its citizens; the 1400's were a time
...... when the Saxons wanted to trade with the Ottoman
...... empire; so any dreams of independence were
...... crushed from both the Saxons (from the northwest)
...... and by the Ottomans (from the southeast)
"as am aware i cant name one muslim ruler/nation that colonized another nation and used them as slaves. "
HAHAHAHA, you guys are so funny
That true about Ottoman Empire, because there was a lot of Turkish and Persian in Malacca Empire who work as soldier and official in palace.
Ada juga kampung turki di aceh
lol This video is not entirely true though.
It's true that the ottoman turks never tried to conquer america but the ottoman north africans did!
From what I know the north african states of the ottoman empire gained independence from turks to start their own little empire.
Not all the ottomans were turks though. After the turkish invasion of albania we also had the ottoman albanians who were ethnically albanians same as the ottoman north africans were ethnically algerians, tunisians, even libyans if I'm not mistaken.
It's interesting that this guy mentioned the invasion of the coasts of iceland at 9:08 but he doesn't mention who the invaders were.
Those invaders also attacked north american ships in the atlantic if I'm not mistaken which triggered north america into a war against the ottomans of north africa.
@Vienna But they weren't turks my man.
Even icelanders blame the turks. They have a name for this event "the turkish abductions" same as eastern europeans blame turks for the crimes of the steppe empires.
@Vienna
The ottomans of north africa were some of the most bad S empires in history.
With a small military they managed to scare the big powerful french into paying them in resources for years. They were doing what the british were doing but with a much smaller military. And they did. The french paid north africans in gold and silver for years. It's like the big bully taking the lunch money from a little kid except in this case it's the other way around because the north frican ottoman navy and their military were the small ones and the french were the big powerful ones.
Thanks for teaching everybody man!!! It is appreciated!!!
9:08 ottomans in iceland sounds a lot more like eu4 than real history. Learn something new everyday
Do you know that Ottoman also a good ally to Japan and that's the reason Islam spread in Japan now?
Do you know Javanese (people of Java Island in Indonesia) already can reach the Madagascar and even the Western Africa in long long time ago with just a wooden ship that called as JONG ??
That's why there are some Javanese and Javanese descendants in Madagascar right now.
Reality sometimes far beyond your mind and sometimes actually more simple than you think.
@@bard001
And Algiers.
It was from small city known as Sale in Morocco the governor give 10% of the wealth to the saadi sultan zidan
That happened in vestmanneyjar and they slaughtered and raped many shut up
@Deinis de Sousa the viking were done then
"Sahin the Falcon thinks that the Ottomans are the relic of the past"
Im not frank Im Scottish. 😢
@@comradekenobi6908 aoe3
The Ottomans still exist today, they simply change their brand to Turks but the legacy lives on!
Will you make series on The Peloponnesian War?
love this channel from Bangladesh
To consider the Ottomans a match to the Portuguese in 1654, when after 80 years of Spanish rule, a costly restauration war against Castille, attacked by almost every other european competitors in the Atlantic and so on, the Portuguese were a shadow of their former selves is quite normal. Of course that the Ottoman juggernaut was supposed to be stronger then a small and peripheral European Nation, when you look at the placing where their men, navy and power comes from in terms of comparison with the Portuguese. What is surprising is how a small country as Portugal, with low manpower and natural resources, coming from the other side of the planet absolutely vaporizes a coalition of relevant forces in the Indian Ocean only 10 years after arriving there, such as the Battle of Diu. Leaving marks that are felt nowadays like avoiding Ethiopia becoming fully muslim, establishing forts in places that even today are hellholes like Ormuz and the Horn of Africa. There was laid the foundation for all the maritime powers to come to rule the ocean through choke points and well placed forts and bases.
Being a successfull and impressive land empire is one thing, to have a blue water navy and sail across the globe through stars and wind is a whole different game technologically speaking. Some chose not to invest in it like the Ottomans or the Chinese after Zheng He, others had not any other alternative like the Portuguese.
Eles são Grandes, Agente é ruim.
We Dutch did it some later.
Thats was also the tiny start,of industrialization.
The windmils.
@@RedbadvanRijn-ft3vv We had good relations with you guys, our monarchy was from Bourgogne, we always had a lot of commercial relations with Flandres, but then ours kings decided to expel the jews or force converse them and a lot of them went to the Netherlands, and with the Iberian Union we
we got the Spanish enemies for free. Some people from The Netherlands like De Huurte family in the Açores were settling on our lands, and on Cabo Verde.
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So tell us why the Ottomans genocide Armenians????
There not,,,peacefull,,,there just as evil as the Nazi where.
It's funny to see the bias and propaganda that you are trying to venture here. But once u started this talk, I'll give my opinion. I'm jst finding it really funny.
What I said and I repeat, the Ottomans were great in their place, but they were no match to Portugal in the High Seas. Of course that on land its different, probably Contantinople had more population than the whole of Portugal. The Ottomans couldn't even conquer Morocco, but Portugal helped Ethiopia to remain partialy Christian otherwise they would all be muslim by sword. Submit or die was the Ottoman rule as any other Christian, Hindu, Shinto, Buddhist or animalist empire.
The fobia of Islam is not a fobia, we undertand you u for what u are. Same as us, just different religion. Islam has always historically tried to play itself as this underdog, as this religion and people who are friendly but when someone wakes up, they have a knife on their throat. What reality shows is that even in 2020 Islam can't separate politics from religion, they are the same! The same faces of the coin. I see where your thinking comes from, and I'm just sorry for you. As always throughout history, reality stumps on ideology.
You try to put here Islam and the Ottomans as victims ahahahahaah. AGAIN AHAHAHAH. Ottomans were invaders in Anatolia, the same way as Islam coming from the Hejaz was invader to an Anatolia where Christian priests had been preaching for more than 700y (a lot of times converting by force and the sword also). So people changed religion just because the sun rose?? No more sand to the eyes please... You are not preaching to some illiterate village in the mountains of the HinduKush.
Islam had problems with Europeans because Europeans were in Europe even before Osman was born and Islam existed. So what? We know Islam from heart and soul, the same way Islam knows Christianity. We are neighbours in geography and share historical roots. What is historically clear to anyone is that Islam only stops when its dealt with a Culture with Strong foundations and full force, these being the Europeans, the Hindus of India and the Han Chinese.
Understand one thing at last. Europe is not the An Nafud. We are here for Milennia and will stand here for Milennia. About the Ottomans standing against terrorism? I can't believe what I'm reading. Europe has achieved human development unseen in history, way greater than anything Islamic world has given humanity, and the islamic golden age in the 1000s gave a lot. Of course that the European colonizers were oppressors, the same way as Sudanese islamists enslaved black africans and sold them way before we arrived there by sea. Your problem with Europeans is that you are our rivals, and because we arrived there first, avoided you to do so.
Europe was able to control its religious radicals, and put them in their place. To have a secular rule, and separate state from and allow muslims to live among us. What did the muslims do? What are they doing in Germany and France nowadays, recruiting young people to fight in the Jihad, promoting Sharia among other stuff while the christians are persecuted in Syria, Turkey and every Muslim country? Your mask is falling apart everyday. We are secular and we are Europeans but bear in mind that when the time comes, our historical roots comes before the islamists we are receiving in our home. As Turkey as soon learnt, trying to roll over Greece but France with the backing of Europe, is a bit too big for u to stump on.
Just ask the Sahel Africa how are muslims behaving or the northern Mozambique. Corrupt leaders are the same, islamic or christian they just follow the money.
Wait for Eu4 memes
Video: “Their expansion into.. *insert territory*”
Ottomans: “Ceddin Deden!”
I love all your videos.. very creative refreshing and I can even explain to my children about history using the videos. Straighforward and simple explanation
11:45 Istanbul was still named Constantinople/Konstantinyya at this time. It was only renamed in 1926 after the fall of the Empire.
But if he didn’t call it Istanbul, angry Turks would kill him :))))))
K&G is not wrong. 1926 is just the year they made it official. The ottoman/turks have already calling Constantinople as Istanbul way long before
@@phongduong7486 you cant win with some people
Mustafa Kemal renamed it to Istanbul i believe the name was still Konstantinye
@@phongduong7486 we in turkey call them sheeps
Icelanders hate Turks because of this raiding to Iceland but fact is they was not Turks, captain was Dutchman converted islam changed name and crew was Berber Arabs from barbary states we know this because of Icelander prisoner priest he write everything about raiders.
Relax Man lol what as a Turkish man who is in touch with the remaining heirs to the khanate, it was for sure Turkish what are you talking about lol
@Relax Man Islam is a religion. Turkey is a country. A person from Turkey can also be a Muslim: you can be both Turkish and Islamic, or be either separately
Curious, you didn't translate "João" for "John" but did translate "Henry" from "Henrique"
Funny
@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio in Brasil we do pronounce the whole word in Henrique. Not only that but the -que has a strong tone (?) on it
@Ted Hubert Pagnanawon Crusio We need to find a galician to confirm how they speak "Henrique". If the q is silent for them, then you have a point. If it is not, I call bs XD
Love it. Never would have thought to ask this question.
It's interesting to learn that the rise of the Portuguese empire indirectly led to the fall of the Mamluk Sultanate (who also played more of a role in Spain's & Portugal's colonial drive then just simply the fall of Constantinople).
Yet, the portuguese never considered themselves as an Empire
@@MFPRego Neither do we Americans, yet look at our history😁.
@@patrickblanchette4337 the US isnt an empire, altough by the XV XVI centuries standards, would have been
@@MFPRego What I mean is that a lot of people nowadays like to call it an empire (though not myself of course). I think a lot of people have a new definition for empire that’s not the official definition(I personally don’t care either way).
@@MFPRego we lacked the numbers to even call it "an empire". we just built a bunch of forts and traded with the locals then went back to the homeland. the only place where colonization was taken seriously was brazil, where at some point half of our population of 1.5 million just left to go there
Fascinating - thanks.
It always amazed me that these people were traveling all around the world just for spices. Why couldn't they just be happy with Salt and Pepper?
Perhaps you should visit india. To know how addicting spices can be.
The per capita of india is 2000USD. But since they consume so much and many spices. It's kind of distracting the indians from realisation of poverty and development.
Every meal of the day is dopamine inducing and makes people docile.
Hyderabadi biryani, pav bhaji,vad pav,karnataka dosa and tamil nadu's idli sambhar are to name a few.
Lol....the best comment
@@comichacker as an indian.WUT?
In the age b4 refrigeration spices hid the taste of rotting meat at least for the few who could afford it.
I can tell your most likely a white american that lives in kansas
Thank you for all your hard work. See Utube is not useless
Than ending with the map on the table and the hand putting off the candle was great
Very nice animations and music so well used, that I enjoyed every minute of the documentary. You guys are getting better and better with every video. It is very nice to experience this development, while learning so much in the meantime. Keep up the astonishingly great work, K&G.
I recently finished The Silk Roads by Peter Frankopan and it was incredible! A crash course of central Asia history
Magnificient video, I've never been able to find any sources on this topic in my University library, great video that you've made, wonderful visuals though