Nuking Social Constructionism {Intro}

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  • Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
  • Kristi Winters and I are having a little dispute over whether or not science is fundamentally a product of social relations. That dispute, regrettably, has escalated into a deeply unpleasant conflict which will likely yield little of value to either of us. My audience, however, stands to benefit from the opportunity that this sorry affair has afforded us, insofar as it allows me to showcase my philosophy of science, the Naturalist Nuke, and my rebuttals to common social constructionist arguments.
    Her video replies to me:
    • WKND WNTRS: Re-educati...
    • Kristi dunks on King C...
    • WKND WNTRS: Re-educati...
    The original video under contention:
    • Is Science a Social Co...
    My discussion with Jangles ScienceLad on these matters:
    • King Crocoduck: Social...

Комментарии • 908

  • @megathai
    @megathai 3 года назад +301

    Damn, dad finally came back from the liquor store.

    • @hypervious8878
      @hypervious8878 3 года назад +7

      funniest damn thing I've seen all week.

  • @KingCrocoduck
    @KingCrocoduck  3 года назад +259

    Quantum 3 is in production. I haven’t forgotten about my promise to make it; it’s just been a bit of a crazy year, and when the video finally comes out, I really, really don’t want to have a Cyberpunk 2077 situation on my hands. Believe me, when it’s ready, you’ll see that it was worth the wait.
    Anyway, this channel's next video is on Friday. Keep your eyes open!

    • @alexanderlomashvili8501
      @alexanderlomashvili8501 3 года назад +7

      I like quantum series, I am glad it is not abandoned.

    • @ceceliawight7059
      @ceceliawight7059 3 года назад

      Thanks!

    • @windigo000
      @windigo000 3 года назад +3

      cool. will there be version with lots of swearing? 😊 harmonic oscillator was great

    • @Teboski78
      @Teboski78 3 года назад +5

      People who died of covid or something while waiting:”Am I a joke to you?”
      (Not complaining just having a dark sense of humor sorry)

    • @ayansayan8229
      @ayansayan8229 3 года назад

      @@alexanderlomashvili8501 Hey! Is he referring to the quantum theory made easy part 3?

  • @MadsFeierskov
    @MadsFeierskov 3 года назад +134

    Her: "Have some humility"
    Also her: "Listen to the woman who knows what she's talking about" and "the natural sciences are easy and lazy because you don't have to think very hard about them"
    Oh the humanity...

    • @DarkShadow84
      @DarkShadow84 3 года назад +1

      Pretty sure Fistie doesn't remotely understand general relativity or quantum mechanics. Not thinking very hard my ass.

    • @darkelwin02
      @darkelwin02 3 года назад +1

      Even more painful to read as text

    • @mordinvan
      @mordinvan 3 года назад +2

      The little world of natural science? Oh, the UNIVERSE?

    • @24tommyst
      @24tommyst 3 года назад

      OH the communal narcissist NPD, is more like it.

    • @nathanjora7627
      @nathanjora7627 2 года назад +1

      “A particle is a wave is math… What is matter again ?”
      A physicist not thinking hard about his discipline, 2022

  • @aeroscience9834
    @aeroscience9834 3 года назад +154

    Kristi Winters having a legit PhD is the perfect demonstration of the problems with academia.

    • @DeconvertedMan
      @DeconvertedMan 3 года назад +4

      What is her phd in anyway, I forget and cant find it online.

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 3 года назад

      @@DeconvertedMan I believe it is in political science.

    • @michaelsommers2356
      @michaelsommers2356 3 года назад +29

      A PhD only means that you are capable of doing original research in your field. It is not meant to mean that you are an expert in every field, or that you are a good human being.

    • @DeconvertedMan
      @DeconvertedMan 3 года назад

      @@michaelsommers2356 I thought it was in philosophy? O_o;

    • @shadowmax889
      @shadowmax889 3 года назад +8

      Is not a problem with academia, i a problem only to KW who thinks because she has a PhD she can comment confidently on other areas of knowledge

  • @myfavoriteviewer306
    @myfavoriteviewer306 3 года назад +44

    I thought I felt a disturbance in the force, as if a million Ray Comforts suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced.

  • @greendragonreprised6885
    @greendragonreprised6885 3 года назад +67

    I had a run in with her a few years ago when she managed to produce a paper that had a conclusion without any analysis and which did not consider any alternative conclusions, even for the purpose of eliminating them. I explained how she could improve her paper by including the steps she had missed. She accused me of misogyny.

    • @WorthlessWinner
      @WorthlessWinner 3 года назад +17

      I wonder if she accuses journals of sexism when they reject her papers?

  • @andrewmayo9400
    @andrewmayo9400 3 года назад +205

    she's gonna move on to her next tactic now, instead of calling you stupid and trying to intimidate you with her irrelevant PhD, she'll move onto calling you malicious instead, attacking your character more directly. She'll try to shift herself from the position of strength to the position of weakness, and make this about her personally instead of the ideas you are critiqueing, then pretend you are doing the exact same thing. Be Careful KC, and go for the throat.

    • @88_TROUBLE_88
      @88_TROUBLE_88 3 года назад +36

      Absolutely correct. You have to anticipate this strategy shift because she certainly will be using that tactic to place herself in the position of weakness and then framing the entire exchange as an example of Croc "punching down" on the poor helpless damsel who deserves none of the hostile response as she's merely trying to have a civil discussion and where she went out of her way to avoid mis-characterizing your argument she was ever-present up 👆 there on the high road while you dragged her character thru the muck due to your lack of substantial arguments etc etc we all know what she'll do; it's just a matter of sitting back with popcorn and watching her do it.
      It.
      Is.
      Inevitable.
      LOL I can't wait to watch her pull this horseshit when she finds herself unable to reply and lacking in justification for her deceitful underhanded ruse resulting in her fate, ultimately, as a broken creature of obesity - her physique amounting to a melted candle puddle drizzled over a pile of broken knives aimed at your back.. Fuck her shit fr diaf fuckin sweathog

    • @Jay121
      @Jay121 3 года назад +9

      That's why Bearing calls her a c$&t.

    • @berserker8884
      @berserker8884 3 года назад +2

      I agree, but I don't even mind. More juicy content for me lol.

    • @opie5314
      @opie5314 3 года назад +6

      already call him harassing when he was simply commenting on her 6.5 hours of streams

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 3 года назад +6

      I think he should he should make her seem as stupid as possible without ever actually using words like that or calling her names of any kind. That's just how I think he should go about it but it should make her seem emotional and personally biased while he comes off looking academic.
      I'd say the exact opposite for like flat earthers. They need to be ridiculed. But that's again, just my opinion.

  • @guystyle8062
    @guystyle8062 3 года назад +86

    Kneel to the crown. Stand in the sun. Hail to the King.

    • @guystyle8062
      @guystyle8062 3 года назад +3

      @Wat Nope. It's just some song lyrics. Nothing is sacred. Nothing is worthy of blind worship.

    • @Mitch93
      @Mitch93 3 года назад +1

      @@guystyle8062 Very memable lyrics!

    • @IAOIceland1984
      @IAOIceland1984 3 года назад

      hail to the king, by avenged sevenfold

  • @roman9509
    @roman9509 3 года назад +11

    she's a victim of the Dunning-Kruger effect.

  • @antecave
    @antecave 3 года назад +71

    I argued with her on twitter once. She told me to watch a 1 hour lecture. I did, took notes, and answered that I agreed with all the facts presented in there, but still disagreed with her conclusions from it. She never answered back. She is the embodiment of bad faith.

    • @WorthlessWinner
      @WorthlessWinner 3 года назад +30

      People who tell you to educate yourself and insist you read a book before debating them, don't want you to actually do those things, they're just trying to shut down the conversation (most of the time)

    • @amadeusdebussy6736
      @amadeusdebussy6736 3 года назад +9

      I honestly think that people like her cannot conceive (and I mean that quite literally) that someone could have access to the same information she has access to and come to a different result absent bad faith on the other person's part.

    • @24tommyst
      @24tommyst 3 года назад +1

      She has NPD. Of course she's "bad faith": she's delusional.

  • @flyingsquids7547
    @flyingsquids7547 3 года назад +51

    THE KING HAS RETURNED BLESS US

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 3 года назад

      Yeah it's great that we're hearing from him although I wish it was under better circumstances. What a smug little piece of shit so called scientist

  • @HealingBlight
    @HealingBlight 3 года назад +40

    She condescends on you, telling you to have humility... while claiming to be superior, and talking about how thorough she is while either quote mining or didn't failing to intake the full information of what you were saying?
    Was she just looking for a gotcha moment so hard that she didn't even care to listen?

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 3 года назад +8

      "forgot the timestamp". I'm not inclined to believe her on that one ;)

  • @ingold1470
    @ingold1470 3 года назад +32

    Kristi will simply cherry-pick all the tough talk in the video and pretend that the actual rebuttals don't exist, I'm calling it now.

  • @Xgya2000
    @Xgya2000 3 года назад +20

    I'm both sad AND glad this argument even exists.
    Sad because, well, it exists.
    Glad because it means you're back and making enjoyable content.

  • @AntiCitizenX
    @AntiCitizenX 3 года назад +10

    The bit about "listen to the woman" was especially aggravating. She's basically implying that your entire disagreement is due to raw sexism, rather than any perceived flaws in her reasoning. It's a stupid ad-hominem, and she knows it.

    • @KingCrocoduck
      @KingCrocoduck  3 года назад +7

      She does more than imply it; in other portions of the video, she outright accuses me of being motivated by sexist bias, and her reasoning for this was that I occasionally used feminine pronouns in a critical context. I know that it sounds like I'm being uncharitable or distorting her meaning, but I swear that it's the truth.

  • @jgreen802
    @jgreen802 3 года назад +97

    Holy shit! It's been a LONG time.

    • @khuti007
      @khuti007 3 года назад

      What he said !! I thought the feakin Aliens had you

  • @AntiCitizenX
    @AntiCitizenX 3 года назад +28

    I once tried to agree with Krisi's own conclusions, but criticized her arguments that got her there. She still got very belligerent with me. Not a stable person.

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 3 года назад +8

      Good description. I don't think she ever recovered from being out-scholar'd by fireman noelplum

    • @AnaseSkyrider
      @AnaseSkyrider 3 года назад

      @@ThePharphis got links?

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 3 года назад

      In a bit of a rush but try these videos: ruclips.net/user/noelplum99search?query=kristi%20winters
      The first in the list as well as the 2-parter further down the list.
      Honestly there's much more but I recall those 3 being the most substantive

  • @chrisose
    @chrisose 3 года назад +27

    The quality of Kristi's response is aptly characterized by the quality of those who participated her live streams.
    She also employs the favorite tool of the credentialed hack, word salads.

  • @XM525754
    @XM525754 3 года назад +16

    This whole problem started when the humanities, having lost their preeminent position both in academics and general influence to the hard sciences, began claiming they were engaged in science too.

    • @VeronicaGorositoMusic
      @VeronicaGorositoMusic 3 года назад +2

      Subjectivists.

    • @alexj7440
      @alexj7440 3 года назад

      Social sciences employ the scientific method, however, because the findings relate to society directly it also requires that normative statements be made.
      I think many people do not understand this and this is what causes the rift.

    • @VeronicaGorositoMusic
      @VeronicaGorositoMusic 3 года назад +2

      @@alexj7440 Social studies use the scientific method?
      How? Give a clear example please?

  • @Axed55
    @Axed55 3 года назад +119

    "I come back to you now, at the turn of the tide."

    • @DarranKern
      @DarranKern 3 года назад +6

      The situation the world is in....its a bit more like if the defenders of Helm’s Deep were wiped out, and Gondor was completely sacked

  • @AntiCitizenX
    @AntiCitizenX 3 года назад +7

    I just did a quick check. According to Google Scholar, Dr. Winters has published 26 articles and received a grand total of 108 citations to her work. I personally have about 600 citations, with a single paper reaching 122. I'm hardly an influential researcher, either, with most of my stuff being relatively obscure and esoteric. It's something to bear in mind the next time she tries to hammer you with her mighty PhD. She's hardly the most productive scientist in the world.

    • @KingCrocoduck
      @KingCrocoduck  3 года назад +1

      Considering that she's coming up on her 50s, this is pretty sad.

    • @amadeusdebussy6736
      @amadeusdebussy6736 3 года назад

      The "good fight" of putting hard scientists in their place is a thankless job I guess.

  • @Anglomachian
    @Anglomachian 3 года назад +23

    It’s painful listening to Fistie Splinters condescend to someone when even someone of my middling intellect can instantly shoot the problem and irony in her conclusion jumping, and then in her criticism for his majesty to be humble.

  • @SawtoothWaves
    @SawtoothWaves 3 года назад +67

    oh hell yeah

    • @howtheworldworks3
      @howtheworldworks3 3 года назад +1

      LOL. Did not expect you here.

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 3 года назад +1

      Are you into synthesizers or something? I took a peek at your channel but none of it made much sense to me. I didn't see anything about synthesizers or sound or anything so I was just wondering about the name.

    • @SawtoothWaves
      @SawtoothWaves 3 года назад +1

      @@PaulTheSkeptic I've actually seen you around paul lol, it's my mlp oc's name. but i do make music and sometimes use sawtooth based synths

    • @PaulTheSkeptic
      @PaulTheSkeptic 3 года назад

      @@SawtoothWaves I see. Do you mind if I ask you one more thing? No judgement or anything but I'm curious. Are you a man or woman or, how do you identify? I guess would be the right way to ask?
      And you don't have to answer of course.

    • @lloydmeadors
      @lloydmeadors 3 года назад

      No no no, oh HELL yeah, that's where we're all going for supporting the king

  • @freezee9350
    @freezee9350 3 года назад +6

    I'd like to apologize for my earlier snide comment
    I just finished watching your conversation with jangles sciencelad and you're much more honest and good-natured than I previously thought

  • @Kelly_Jane
    @Kelly_Jane 3 года назад +7

    "The definitions of our terms keep changing, that makes us more rigorous."
    Yes... that's how that works.

  • @pcsecuritychannel
    @pcsecuritychannel 3 года назад +33

    "I come back to you now, at the turn of the tide."
    - Jay K
    I couldn't agree more. You have picked the right battle too. The postmodernist propaganda is the biggest threat to truth and free thinking right now.

  • @spirit123459
    @spirit123459 3 года назад +18

    "[In natural science] everything is self-evident" - oh my sweet Cthulhu... I am deeply confused: how can someone have enough mental horsepower to get Ph.D. and at the same time (I assume in good faith/honestly) make such statements? Didn't she hear about LIGO or LHC and how many smart people work on these projects?

    • @Avonidsed
      @Avonidsed 3 года назад +3

      As Ben Carson has shown, just because you're good at one thing means NOTHING for the rest of your skillset.

    • @bryanreed742
      @bryanreed742 3 года назад +1

      You don't need mental horsepower to get a PhD. You just need perseverance. I've known lots of stubborn yet dim people who've gotten PhDs. Supposedly it's a certification that you're capable of independent research, but anyone who's tried to hire a decent postdoc knows that a PhD implies no such thing. Bad students are allowed to skate through, write an awful thesis that couldn't possibly stand peer review, and get their degrees. The committee signs off for political reasons. It looks really bad when a student who's fundamentally not capable is allowed to waste 8 years and a lot of university resources, and it's considered a grave insult to the PI to fail someone at the thesis defense stage. The system is definitely broken.

    • @spirit123459
      @spirit123459 2 года назад

      @Hamza Ali She seems genuine.

  • @TJskillz169
    @TJskillz169 3 года назад +42

    The sheer audacity of what she said actually has me heated. As someone that struggled to earn just his BS in chemistry because of physical chemistry, and then seeing how easy a BA has it in comparison. I’m glad the king is here to put her in her place with measured words cause I would just cuss her out.

    • @vestafreyja
      @vestafreyja 3 года назад +17

      Having earned a BSc in Psychology with a minor in Biochemistry, BSc & MSc in Computer Science and a PhD in Computer Science and Engineering; I have to agree with you. At least for me earning a degree in the Social Sciences if kept up with my readings in Psychology you could manage to put off most of your workload until the final two or three weeks in the course and have to scramble to the end of the semester. In regards to Biochemistry and Computer Science you could not use the same tactic as one could use in Psychology as far as course work goes because you are continually building upon previous knowledge.

  • @bjmben88
    @bjmben88 3 года назад +6

    The dishonesty on Kristi's part is astounding. I study engineering, not a natural science, but I have serious respect for what the students of those subjects go through. The way Kristi talks down to that entire field baffles me. How ignorant does one have to be, especially as an "academic"?

    • @ThePharphis
      @ThePharphis 3 года назад

      I'm guessing she's tired of being talked down to... but poor reasoning and behaviour on her part in response to criticism doesn't make her or the ideas she is attempting to defend look any better...

  • @vegaspowerlifting
    @vegaspowerlifting 3 года назад +47

    One thing I find funny with people like her, is every time they get a chance while they are trying to explain an answer or why they are right, it seems they always have to use their resume as part of why they were right.

  • @theKurtAnderson
    @theKurtAnderson 3 года назад +37

    “Social scientists are far more rigorous and statistically competent than natural scientists”
    *goes and checks which (sub)fields have had the phrase ‘replication crisis’ consistently attached to them over the past 2 decades *

    • @seanbeadles7421
      @seanbeadles7421 Год назад

      Did you say “medicine”?

    • @RomanBelisarius
      @RomanBelisarius Год назад

      ​​@@seanbeadles7421Psychology, and many other social/behavioral sciences.
      Medicine, at least any physical medication or drug, has to go through 4 stages of trials (further experiments) before it ever gets onto the market.

  • @noelplum99
    @noelplum99 3 года назад +5

    Pleased to see you back and about to watch the other two parts you currently have online.
    As someone with their own experiences of Kristi, I recognised her response to you as her typical modus operandi. What she does is definitely easier to put your finger on than why. I honestly still don't know if she is properly aware of how much she twists and misrepresents her opponents. My feeling is that she isn't as clever as she thinks she is (I would propose she could be described as a kind of intellectual narcissist, the way she waxes lyrical about her own wonderous skills and status) which becomes a problem because it couples in a kind of unholy alliance with her utter certitude in her own positions.
    She also clearly has very deep rooted ideological agendas driving her positions. Perhaps this is why she takes the stance she does? When your ideologies colour the statements you make (and the grubby ways you misrepresent everyone who disagrees to score a "win") to the degree they do with Kristi then presumably you start to view that as normal?
    I don;t know. These are only my thoughts on her. What I am fairly convinced of by now is that she has a lot of prejudice within her. You only have to listen to the way she says you will have to listen to a woman, or the wonderful time (which I have documented in a video) she suggested the reason Richard Dawkins gets to speak at lots of events and she doesn't is because she is a woman, that she has some incredibly deep rooted chips on her shoulder, an overwhelming sense of grievance and injustice, that ultimately underpins her constant gender and race baiting statements on social media that end up betraying what has become an ever deepening set of her own bigotries (or perhaps she just feels enabled to express them more freely and they were always there?).
    Ok, on to watch the nuke!

  • @CristiNeagu
    @CristiNeagu 3 года назад +35

    You know, 7 or so years ago, when creationism was the issue occupying all our time, i never thought that things could get so much worse. Is creationism even worth talking about these days? At worst, all they're trying to do is get rich off of gullible people. Compared to what's going on these days, that's nothing.

    • @CristiNeagu
      @CristiNeagu 3 года назад

      @JebSchleiden UberTechnologie Well, it's been quite a while since i've seen any content from him, and i have no idea what this is about.

    • @Ileko1
      @Ileko1 3 года назад +3

      Anti-religious stuff lost the audience almost a decade ago. I managed to get back to the faith after that anti-religous phase in my life passed.
      It would still be interesting to see what kind of creationism related videos he could make these days.

    • @CristiNeagu
      @CristiNeagu 3 года назад +6

      @@Ileko1 I haven't returned to faith. I'm not sure i've ever been there to begin with. But what that anti-religious phase (as you put it) did for me is give me a better understanding and appreciation of religion. I managed to find a balance that feels right to me between blind faith and complete rejection.

    • @Ileko1
      @Ileko1 3 года назад +3

      @@CristiNeagu Very well put. The "phase" did the same for me. My original faith was really weak before turning away, probably similarly to yours, but when it comes back it's really strong and all it required was being open to the idea of faith for a year or so instead of being outright hostile.

    • @DarranKern
      @DarranKern 3 года назад +7

      Creationism is absolutely nothing compared to intersectional critical race theory. Critical race theory is literally the most dangerous thing in the world right now. Its worse than the pandemic, more dangerous than nuclear weapons. And its use on the world population has been extremely effective and utterly devastating

  • @s7d788
    @s7d788 3 года назад +12

    "I have been published and peer reviewed!!!"
    Spoken like a true mediocre academic.

    • @MrMacGee83
      @MrMacGee83 3 года назад +6

      Her h-index is at a 4. For a woman who has been at this since before 2008, if her work were being taken seriously by anyone she should be at around a 20 by now. Or at least around a 12 to 15 if she was making minimal effort. Almost no one is citing her work.

    • @WorthlessWinner
      @WorthlessWinner 3 года назад +2

      @@MrMacGee83 - maybe if she didn't spend all her time boasting on the internet that she's a scientist, her scientific career would've taken off by now

    • @RonnieD1970
      @RonnieD1970 3 года назад

      So were grievence studies!!

  • @jadedkratos5528
    @jadedkratos5528 3 года назад +21

    Fistie Splinters has been pissing a lot of people off and going after an actual scientist who knows what he's talking about is Anita Sarkeesian levels of pwnage. Thunderf00t tore Sarkeesian apart and it's gonna be nice to see KC tear Fistie asunder.

    • @IHaveWaffles
      @IHaveWaffles 3 года назад

      So you're also subscribed to Bearing. Nice

    • @jadedkratos5528
      @jadedkratos5528 3 года назад

      @@IHaveWaffles Yeppers

    • @antediluvianatheist5262
      @antediluvianatheist5262 3 года назад

      @@IHaveWaffles oh dear.

    • @ulrichweiss9912
      @ulrichweiss9912 3 года назад +2

      Kristie wouldn't survive in any field of the hard sciences. She's really trying to put her experience as a political "scientist" on the same level as physicists, biologists, geologists ... . Like political science (or any soft science) somehow takes more intelligence than fucking physics. If she were just stupid, it wouldn't be infuriating, but she's arrogant in her stupidity, so it's doubly irritating. Glad a *real* scientist is taking time to rip her a new one.

  • @adflicto1
    @adflicto1 3 года назад +16

    My inspiration for studying physics, the undisputed, one and only, KC!

  • @SerpentineDeity
    @SerpentineDeity 3 года назад +7

    You can easily tell she masks toxic feminism with her science background. A smart person is not immune to hate or bigotry nor from selectivity bias. Just because she can assess statistics doesn't mean she is immune from lying to herself about social issues. Don't bother with such people, they're in their own world.

  • @singh.jayesh1866
    @singh.jayesh1866 3 года назад +9

    The king is back and pissed af and I am loving it :D

  • @kenelliott6897
    @kenelliott6897 3 года назад +23

    I miss the King so much, I wonder how his Physics work is going. good i hope. Cheers

  • @ttthttpd
    @ttthttpd 3 года назад +18

    I hope this means the Science Wars videos are back. Really want to see you interact and/or respond to New Discourses discussions on Applied Post-Modernism and Critical Theory.

    • @DeconvertedMan
      @DeconvertedMan 3 года назад +2

      Someone has to do it! (not me, I'm not wise enough)

    • @DarranKern
      @DarranKern 3 года назад +2

      @@DeconvertedMan post modernism is so absurdly unscientific, unfalsifiable, and objectively false, and experimentally disproven, that a child could counter it

    • @DeconvertedMan
      @DeconvertedMan 3 года назад +1

      @@DarranKern Perhaps so, but Kristy is more then just postmodern.

    • @DarranKern
      @DarranKern 3 года назад +2

      @@DeconvertedMan not really.

  • @Luciferkrist
    @Luciferkrist 3 года назад +10

    Now if we can only get C0nc0rdance back making vids, my science content would be complete.

    • @M4ruta
      @M4ruta 3 года назад +1

      As an added bonus, we need to wake VenomFangX from his cryogenic sleep so that we can delight in response videos where the scientifically literature folks tear him apart.

  • @alkestos
    @alkestos 3 года назад +3

    2021 isn't so bad as I thought apparently. Welcome back KC.

  • @semichiganandy2127
    @semichiganandy2127 3 года назад +4

    Sometime in the distant past I must have subscribed to you and forgotten about it. Today you re-appeared. "What? Who? Is this." I asked. I watched and found out. And thanked some previous version of me for allowing the present me to enjoy your intellect.

  • @lowkey_entertaining9723
    @lowkey_entertaining9723 3 года назад +14

    Fuck yeah the return of the king!!! We missed you crocy boi

  • @spaghettibadger647
    @spaghettibadger647 3 года назад +6

    Ah... Fistie Splinters is still at it?
    You should read her Doctoral thesis... it's hilarious

    • @noneofyourbusiness7055
      @noneofyourbusiness7055 3 года назад +4

      Oh man, I hadn't even thought about the fact that she would've had to do a "Hello my name is Kent Hovind" to get her PhD in arrogant dishonesty. I don't have a whole lot of time to spare, could you explain what's the deal with it? Aside from predictably vapid, of course.

    • @ataraxia2894
      @ataraxia2894 3 года назад

      Leaving this here so I can see the hilarity. How did she manage to get a PhD like that? Mind boggling

  • @ZyTelevan
    @ZyTelevan 3 года назад +2

    You can't get intelligence by reversing stupidity. But you can get intelligence by reversing Winters. Which means that she's not stupid, she's malicious.

    • @DarranKern
      @DarranKern 3 года назад

      She is both.

    • @ZyTelevan
      @ZyTelevan 3 года назад

      @@DarranKern You can't get so reliably wrong by just being stupid. She's playing power games and it's detrimental to her cause when people have reliable ways of arriving at truth, so she fights it.

  • @3ron
    @3ron 3 года назад +10

    I have heard tale of this King Crocoduck, but I know not if they are true or fantasy. We shall see upon this fabeled return.

  • @Confused_Carrot
    @Confused_Carrot 3 года назад +4

    The Duck has awakened! All hail the king!
    It's good to see you back.

  • @jackbarman7063
    @jackbarman7063 2 года назад +3

    The one thing that she said that has truth to it in my view, was that scientists don’t always have a proper grasp of or consider philosophy of science as much as they should. Now I don’t know if this is the case for most scientists, but it is worrying when prominent science communicators come out and bash philosophy like science has replaced it when philosophy provides the foundation for it (or even science is a form of philosophy in a more inclusive understanding of philosophy).

    • @alexj7440
      @alexj7440 2 года назад +1

      Yeah, a lot of people in STEM really have no understanding of it’s relation to philosophy, and even society.

  • @torinmccabe
    @torinmccabe 3 года назад +2

    Her point that measures in the hard sciences are different than measures in the soft sciences is very important and true. And her point on the political activism of science is also very true since that is what her side is explicitly doing with their activism/science.

  • @mrhugh.
    @mrhugh. 3 года назад +9

    It's always the same, and I really should know better, two minutes listening to Kristy and I have a screaming headache from the nonsense and lies.

  • @alabaster5302
    @alabaster5302 3 года назад +4

    science wars vol 1 conclusion when?

    • @KingCrocoduck
      @KingCrocoduck  3 года назад +5

      Probably redundant at this stage tbh. Things have accelerated so quickly, we're already living it. I'll get around to it anyway.

    • @alabaster5302
      @alabaster5302 3 года назад +2

      @@KingCrocoduck All the more reason! At the very least for the sake of completion. Your videos are VERY informative on the subject.

  • @michaelfry4513
    @michaelfry4513 3 года назад +3

    Just Curious what exactly does she mean by measuring democracy? What is it she's measuring? how many countries are democratic? how democracy works in each country? how democracy has changed over a given time period?

    • @burke615
      @burke615 3 года назад

      I would think an interesting question could be, "How democratic are these countries?" You'd have to define what it means to have a scale of "how democratic" from "not at all" to "everyone has equal say in every decision," and then somehow collect data to compare the set of countries chosen. I still don't think that's as hard as figuring out how the universe works, though.

  • @mathis8210
    @mathis8210 3 года назад +1

    Well well well, nice to see you back. Looking forward to this epic trilogy.
    I cringed so hard when Kristi was talking down to natural scientists. Its like she has never actually taken a look at any natural scientists work. She seems to think that we all just sit around all day twiddling our thumbs, stuttering "one is equal to one". She says we just sit around and accept whatever is fed to us, but somehow i can distinctly remember makeing many experiments, taking data and reconfirming existing theories in the process. And is she unaware that definitions of units like "liter", "meter" or "kilogram" have been subject to change over time?
    The nuke is a pretty funny visualization of this whole thing. I would pay good money to see her try socially deconstruct a nuclear blast xD. "SHU, go away pressure wave, you are just a social construct, i don't believe in you, therefore you don't exist"

  • @CoolHardLogic
    @CoolHardLogic 3 года назад +17

    "When someone as credentialed as the political scientist, Kristi Winters..."
    From her RUclips channel: "Progressive. Feminist. Humanist. Social scientist. Nerd."
    She may have a PhD but it appears she isn't doing anything useful with it. It looks as if she isn't doing any science or producing any scientific output so her use of the present tense in phrases like "what we do in social science" to imply current pursuit of science could be deceptive. Hilariously, looking through her videos it appears she STILL hasn't moved on from her grudge against Sargon of Akkad, which must be YEARS old by now, surely 😄

    • @KingCrocoduck
      @KingCrocoduck  3 года назад +5

      Good to see you, CHL. I miss your content.

    • @DarranKern
      @DarranKern 3 года назад +1

      Miss you, CHL. Many a Cletus requires your pwnage

    • @WorthlessWinner
      @WorthlessWinner 3 года назад +3

      She has an h-index of 4 and has been cited 108 times in her entire academic career of 107 papers.
      Thunderf00t by contrast has an h-index of 34 and has been cited 3,354 times from his 74 papers.
      So yeah, she hasn't done anything with her pHD

    • @TetsuRiken
      @TetsuRiken 3 года назад +2

      Chl my dude please make some new videos for "they" I mean I miss your content
      Also I hope you do well especially in the crazy world we find ourselves in

    • @CoolHardLogic
      @CoolHardLogic 3 года назад +1

      @@TetsuRiken Thanks. I will be getting back to videos as soon as I can.

  • @hitobite
    @hitobite 3 года назад +3

    There's something to be said about soft science needing more statistics than hard science. For example, as the data in soft science is messier, they would use robust statistics more often and therefore need a better understanding of it.
    However, that's in theory, in practice, they're terrible a stats, e.g. they use a p-value threshold of 0.05.
    Ps: I like the arrogant Kristi compilation.

  • @robertflury3349
    @robertflury3349 3 года назад +6

    She's doing this so you help draw attention to her. She uses the Jenny McDermott philosophy of Internet trolling. I'm looking forward to your response

  • @attilatheone3406
    @attilatheone3406 3 года назад +3

    Just when I thought that Kristi couldn't actually get worse, I turn around and receive this.
    I only wish that more scientists would be willing to have this conversation. The encroachment of this psuedoscientific garbage on the scientific disciplines is something I've noted increasingly in my own field, and without a position of tenure there is absolutely nothing one can do about it lest your own name and that of your family's be dragged through the mud with accusations of racism and sexism.
    @King Crocoduck: If there is ANYTHING a fellow PhD student can do to help you in this war, please feel free to reach out and let me know. It would be my honor, and I'm increasingly worried this fight needs to happen sooner rather than later.

  • @grantpritchard7492
    @grantpritchard7492 3 года назад +4

    Well... what have we learnt thus far? Don't ever poke a sleeping crocoduck!

  • @hueyiroquois3839
    @hueyiroquois3839 3 года назад +5

    14:20-15:50 From this passage, it's possible to infer that Ms.Winters does not understand the English language.

  • @ekscalybur
    @ekscalybur 3 года назад +15

    Is it Dr King Crocoduck yet?

  • @LucTaylor
    @LucTaylor 3 года назад +8

    LOL all you need to know about Kristi Winters is that if you make a reply to her, she won't watch it, she'll read one or two comments, decide what you said and pat herself on the back for being so smart, as she did with Noel Plum

  • @abstractnonsense3253
    @abstractnonsense3253 3 года назад +5

    _And yet their wills did not yield, and they struggled on._

  • @realeveryday504
    @realeveryday504 3 года назад +2

    O... M... WTF?! Where the hell have you been? Withdrawal? I pretty much thought I kicked the habit. Haven't even seen the video yet. Just absolutely mind-blown that you are still with us. Long live KC!!!

  • @nikkovalidor4890
    @nikkovalidor4890 3 года назад +4

    based

  • @QuestionableJesus
    @QuestionableJesus 3 года назад +6

    Welcome back I missed your content

  • @HealingBlight
    @HealingBlight 3 года назад +4

    YES, YOU STILL LIVE. I genuinely missed your content.

  • @Alientcp
    @Alientcp 3 года назад +4

    Lol. When the croc is still it is not because its asleep, its waiting for some one to fuck it up. Nice to see you back, i wanted more videos.

  • @henrikthorsen5971
    @henrikthorsen5971 3 года назад +3

    6½ hours video response - it's almost like she's trying to filibuster this debate.

  • @burieddreamer
    @burieddreamer 3 года назад +2

    I guess we should thank Kristi Winters, which, with her bold stupidity, awoke the giant King Crocoduck. Thanks Kristi! Don't run anywhere Kristi, the next bit will be epic!

  • @connernickerson5509
    @connernickerson5509 3 года назад +4

    Is that Fistie Splinters as Gollum?

  • @k7leetha
    @k7leetha 3 года назад +2

    Me: Oh hell yeah, someone else coming back for 2021!
    Her: Who?
    Me: King Crocoduck!
    Her: The hell is a crocoduck?
    Me: Exactly! Lemme show you the king...

    • @underthepale
      @underthepale 3 года назад

      "A crocoduck!" (na naa, na na na...)

  • @poseidonc1259
    @poseidonc1259 3 года назад +3

    You have been *GREATLY* missed my friend!

  • @vegaspowerlifting
    @vegaspowerlifting 3 года назад +1

    Welcome back!! Can’t wait to see what you do..

  • @lowkey_entertaining9723
    @lowkey_entertaining9723 3 года назад +22

    Yep I’m waking up at 5 in the morning for this
    Edit: well here I am boys

  • @88_TROUBLE_88
    @88_TROUBLE_88 3 года назад

    This is huge and for many of us who are so thoroughly entertained and enlightened by the content so this is a very important thing for us and we are very happy with the fact that we are able to receive the most factually correct and fundamentally veridical declarations in this area of study and we are looking for the best and clearly the winning content that we have come to know over the years which I'm sure we will not be disappointed.. Welcome back, 👑🐊 🦆

  • @ramigilneas9274
    @ramigilneas9274 3 года назад +3

    Kristy Winters and her only friend Mr Potato Head.😂

  • @therealboomhower9209
    @therealboomhower9209 3 года назад

    Finally I've been looking forward to this for years

  • @marcuspheonix
    @marcuspheonix 3 года назад +8

    Wait, so... Would King come before or after Dr.? 🤔😄

  • @jonah_da_mann
    @jonah_da_mann 3 года назад +1

    I''m not surprised at what Kristi did. Deconstruction is one of the core tenets of social constructionism, and all too often the purpose of deconstruction is NOT to add anything meaningful to a conversation (or, if you prefer, CONSTRUCT a valid counterargument); it's to tear things down and damage a conversation by deconstructing other people's arguments in overly negative and disingenuous ways. Social constructions are to the conversation what the BLM rioters and looters are to those BLM activists who actually DO want to mitigate police brutality via legitimate calls for and approaches to police reform.
    It's the difference between a good artist and a bad artist. A good artist is one who tries to CREATE something; a bad artist tries to tear down and denigrate other people's art (e.g., like the version of the Mona Lisa with a cartoon mustache drawn on it).

  • @kaiservenom270
    @kaiservenom270 3 года назад +3

    >Asks you to have humility and just "listen to the woman."
    >Rambles about how the natural science isnt' "deep" enough, unlike her social science with such "big" philosophical questions (which I presume is just "muh equality"). And she also needs to remind us of her "big" credentials and "big" works as a "scientist."
    These people are frauds, they're not scientist, they're just activists roleplaying as scientists.

  • @TECHN01200
    @TECHN01200 3 года назад +2

    I just hear Arnold Schwarzenegger saying "I'm back"

  • @Lanath12
    @Lanath12 3 года назад +7

    You missed April Fools Day by over a week, Croc.

  • @Redtail45044
    @Redtail45044 3 года назад +1

    Ooh, was hoping to see more from you someday. Good to have you back.

  • @blackmask4220
    @blackmask4220 3 года назад +3

    All Hail the King
    Also i'm just about to get my Bachelor Degree in Physics and i feel deply insulted by this woman.
    KC please don't be gentle.
    PS: Sorry for my bad english I'm not a native speaker

    • @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
      @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 3 года назад

      If you hadn't said I wouldn't have known it wasn't your first language

    • @blackmask4220
      @blackmask4220 3 года назад

      @@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 thank you
      you are too kind

  • @lamalamalex
    @lamalamalex Год назад +1

    I don’t even grant the soft approach. Working together with others doesn’t make anything a social construct in the context of science. But for religion, that’s when you can call it a social construct.

  • @martinkirbits4752
    @martinkirbits4752 3 года назад +4

    I had i feeling you'd be back soon.

  • @jrdn31195
    @jrdn31195 3 года назад +2

    I miss the days when I forgot Kristy winters existed

  • @MichaelGreen831
    @MichaelGreen831 3 года назад +5

    Holy cow. I’m so excited. I can’t wait!!!

  • @yoshimansxl
    @yoshimansxl 3 года назад +1

    I am a sociologist, social constructionism has its place but when it comes to hard social constructionism and science, things get interesting. For hard social constructionism to apply we need to consider if human bias plays a role in the interpretation of our results. Well for that to be a factor we need to have place for it to have an influence in the first place. The nice thing about the natural science is that you cut out this factor because it just plays no role in explaining your findings. Your measurements are rooted in things which what we named them or not.....exist. Electricity does not stop existing if we have no name for it. We have direct ways to measure it. Mechanical ways. Social sciences doesn't have this nice thing of cutting out the human. It is a lot harder to determine if we measure what we measure actually measures what we want to measure. So we have to deal with much fuzzier concepts. Capturing something like WTF is democracy is and what more or less democratic means for example is a pain. That said, I argue that we can root our understanding of these fuzzier concepts into the empirical. I would go as far as that we should do that as a baseline because that cuts out some of the confusing noise.

  • @travisbeagle5691
    @travisbeagle5691 3 года назад +6

    Holy crap her little rant on how she thinks social scientists know science more than those in the natural sciences is just pure cringe. Hell, almost every bit of work from those fields is them pulling random crap out of their ass and not using the scientific method.

    • @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
      @jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 3 года назад

      and dare I say most of their practices are cannibalised from the natural sciences or mathematcs and then expanded upon for their relevent fields

  • @sovereignone1900
    @sovereignone1900 3 года назад +1

    "Hail to the King, Baby."
    - Nuke Dukem (yes, I intentionally switched out the first letters to pay homage to KC's naturalistic nuke)

  • @JamesComeau85
    @JamesComeau85 3 года назад +4

    Wow she really is a living display of the arrogance of the ignorant

  • @sillygoose4472
    @sillygoose4472 2 года назад

    "what it means to do Science, to *construct* knowledge." There it is. In 1 quote.

  • @cennethadameveson3715
    @cennethadameveson3715 3 года назад +5

    Such tales we have to tell!

  • @matinhannak3649
    @matinhannak3649 3 года назад

    THE RETURN OF THE KING

  • @BlackCroLong
    @BlackCroLong 3 года назад +3

    Edgy teens, unite!

  • @benjio77
    @benjio77 3 года назад +1

    Recently watched a few KC videos. He's brilliant. Intellectual pugilism of the highest order.

  • @joelcr250
    @joelcr250 3 года назад +3

    omgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgomgggggggggg

  • @dannyeisenga
    @dannyeisenga 3 года назад +1

    Holy crap I was literally just thinking "whatever happened to KC?" 2 days ago.