His most important comment was around the middle of the lecture where he talked about the brutality of WWII. You have to make the enemy sick and tired of all the death and destruction and let them know that it will continue unless they surrender and behave themselves. We will never win another war because we fight so sterile and avoid casualties among the population. It's that same population that desires the war who grows in hatred when their military relatives are killed and continues to fill the ranks of the enemy army. That is the result of military deaths but an untouched civilian populace. War should not be clean and polite. It should be something terrible that everyone hopes to avoid.
Victor, if anyone had tried to tell me that you would be the man you are, it would have had to be your namesake Uncle Victor. Thank you for living up to his name and noble sacrifice for this nation.
The great history professors of Stanford University. Victor Davis Hanson and Thomas Sowell. That's why I don't know how the agenda prospers in students. History absolutely necessary for critical thinking about geopolitics. It's difficult, but have to be mentally careful skeptical flexible, analyzing information, yet trying to get to the bottom of the truth.
Neither of these men teach in Stanford's classrooms any more, if they ever did. In order for undergraduate students to get instruction from either of the men you cite, you "only" have to open one of their books. Or several of them, but you save untold tuition dollars and gain the unfiltered wisdom of all of Western thought. 😂 Opening books and reading is getting to be untaught. Thinking about what one is reading is another skill that is untaught. Discernment doesn't come naturally. One must start with language skills that go deeper than the 500 words we use to communicate basics, the ones necessary to generate critical thought are above the base of the tree. Paying attention in first grade is important. The words having more than one syllable are necessary for complex thinking. Remember "vocab"?I don't know if this is a separate part of instruction anymore. I think it stops at "L" words, and the needle jumped off at "like", which now occupies 50% of conversation minutes.
as a wwII combat soldier my father also felt women in the line was a bad idea. He felt it would interupt the cohesiveness of the unit. women were viewed differently by men in those generations...
There's this saying, "In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king." Actually, in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is the object of universal _envy._ 🎉🎉🎉
@EDKguy I knew a lot of folks who were terrorized by the rioters for one whole summer. They really needed help. POTUS wanted to put the federal military to have an armed presence, so that the chaos would be contrasted. And James Mattis was the reason that we didn't get any help. He made a public statement that muddied everything up, and I hope history does not view him as some hero of in a positive way. It's simple, we (law-abiding folks) needed help, and he didn't care.
@@EDKguy I hope everyone remembers that when he tries to sell his book, or when he tries to become a news pundit, everyone turns the TV off and not support him financially. I guess that's all we can do. Nothing really.
In the Army, success overrides almost all negative assessments among soldiers. If you are the go-to guy to get the job done does not matter if you are not handsome, speak in a deep voice, or wear your uniform all creased and clean.
The fault in your argument is that there are different types of success, different types of jobs to get done in war time vs. peace time. Even with the wars that the US has waged over the past 50 years, none of them have been all out wars against powerful peer competitors, where the country was actually jeopardized. What we have today are peace time generals and admirals, who occasionally lead military operations against vastly inferior opponents. Sure, the boots on the ground are getting the "full treatment", but not the brass. Our best war time generals are not the officers at the top today. They are the colonels and 1 or 2 star generals who will never ascend higher in the military hierarchy than they already have, because they've pissed people off by asking the wrong (really right) questions, or by challenging orthodoxy. Perhaps they got on the wrong side of a risk averse/zero fault bureaucracy when they tried something novel and failed. I believe that it was Admiral King during WW2 who said something to the effect that "When the wars start, they bring back the sons of bitches."
@@brunopadovani7347 what an excellent comment! I tend to call those at the top these days the "Corporate Generals and Admirals". There is a place for them, but it most assuredly is not in command of combat operations.
These points were all extremely compelling and I won't deny them, but I think he sort of glossed over the fact that Sherman's army was Grant's first. Shout out to all midwesterners though, y'all are tough SOBs (or DOBs). Love from New England.
Your "nickname" in my household is: General George Victor Davis Hanson Patton,he remembered his battles in past lives Reinacting war tactics on the same battle fields. Tasha Steele
The US have been eroding from within for years… Those that know understand were from and why . Perhaps we should finally bring this all to a hard and tell the people….
Far be it from me to take issue on a point of history with VDH, whose knowledge of the subject is encyclopedic. But perhaps his knowledge of weapons is less so. George Patton's trademark handguns had IVORY stocks, which are much different from PEARL handles. Ivory stocks have handling properties far different from pearl, which go far beyond their appearance, which is one reason they are several orders of magnitude more expensive and highly sought after. They give the shooter a much better grip, especially when the hands, or the weapon is wet with rain, perspiration, or blood. Pearl grips have no such properties, and are typically cheap imitations of ivory stocks. Pearl grips on the two very expensive carry pistols he was famous for would have offended the patrician Patton's sensibililties beyond words. In fact, when questioned about his "pearl handled pistols" by a reporter, Patton reportedly said, "They're ivory! Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whorehouse would carry a pearl-handled pistol." This is a minor point, and given the thousands if not millions of facts swirling around in VDH's head, the mistake can certainly be forgiven. He is a national treasure.
All wars are civil wars in Jesus the son of God our fathers world. "Swear no oaths, Let your yes mean yes and your no mean no. Less the evil ones use you to kill your brother." Repent & Follow Jesus as the time has come.
These are the wolves in sheep's clothing, you know them by their works: Who has honor while suggesting a reality-God? As if we did not have the saying: God helps those helping themselves, because the fiction is known for a perfect record of nothing-doing. Moreover, it cannot be moral or ethical to suggest there is a god. As if one should respect the suggestion, we all travel with one foot in fantasyland, using a fantasyland vocabulary.
@@darbyheavey406 I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU; MILLEY WILL BE RECALLED TO DUTY AND THEN HE WILL BE CHARGED WITH TREASON FOR MEETING WITH FOREIGN AGENTS (CHINESE GENERALS) BEHIND PRESIDENT TRUMPS BACK. A TREAONABLE OFFENSE. THAT RIDICULOUS A** MILLEY NEVER REALIZED THAT HE SERVES AT THE BEHEST OF THE PRESIDENT. THEN THERE IS THE SUCCESS OF AFGHANISTAN AS WELL.
@@darbyheavey406 Ike never commanded any combat unit. He was effective in the more political arena of high command but was never a combat leader in person.
@@ToddSauve IKE WAS HAND PICKED BY MARSHALL TO BE SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER BECAUSE HE WAS EXCELLENT WITH LOGISTICS. HE WAS A COLONEL FOR 13 YEARS AND WAS PROMOTED OVER EVERYONE AND ROSE 6 RANKS TO BE A 4 STAR GENERAL; IT CAUSED A GREAT DEAL OF JEALOUSY. BY THE WAY; THE REASON THE ALLIES WON WAS BECAUSE OF PATTON IN THE FIELD AND IKE PLANNING THINGS.
VDH...the best!!!
An excellent lecture. Any lecture by Victor Davis Hanson is worth listening to.
His most important comment was around the middle of the lecture where he talked about the brutality of WWII. You have to make the enemy sick and tired of all the death and destruction and let them know that it will continue unless they surrender and behave themselves. We will never win another war because we fight so sterile and avoid casualties among the population. It's that same population that desires the war who grows in hatred when their military relatives are killed and continues to fill the ranks of the enemy army. That is the result of military deaths but an untouched civilian populace. War should not be clean and polite. It should be something terrible that everyone hopes to avoid.
That's true why General Lee said it is well that war is so horrible lest we become too fond of it
It's known in college wrestling as taking your opponent into the deep end
Victor, if anyone had tried to tell me that you would be the man you are, it would have had to be your namesake Uncle Victor. Thank you for living up to his name and noble sacrifice for this nation.
VDH will be remembered as one of a small number of historians who portray the facts…warts n all.
I wish I''d gone to his college.
He's really something special isn't he
He is a good storyteller, but sometimes he got the stories backwards. Like the demise of Patton. It wasn't a freak accident but premeditated murder
VDH is the wisest man in the world.
Absolutely incredible acts of leadership under the worst circumstances.
The great history professors of Stanford University. Victor Davis Hanson and Thomas Sowell. That's why I don't know how the agenda prospers in students. History absolutely necessary for critical thinking about geopolitics. It's difficult, but have to be mentally careful skeptical flexible, analyzing information, yet trying to get to the bottom of the truth.
Uh
@@carllucca6330 uh huh
Neither of these men teach in Stanford's classrooms any more, if they ever did. In order for undergraduate students to get instruction from either of the men you cite, you "only" have to open one of their books. Or several of them, but you save untold tuition dollars and gain the unfiltered wisdom of all of Western thought. 😂
Opening books and reading is getting to be untaught. Thinking about what one is reading is another skill that is untaught. Discernment doesn't come naturally. One must start with language skills that go deeper than the 500 words we use to communicate basics, the ones necessary to generate critical thought are above the base of the tree. Paying attention in first grade is important. The words having more than one syllable are necessary for complex thinking. Remember "vocab"?I don't know if this is a separate part of instruction anymore. I think it stops at "L" words, and the needle jumped off at "like", which now occupies 50% of conversation minutes.
History always repeats itself.
as a wwII combat soldier my father also felt women in the line was a bad idea. He felt it would interupt the cohesiveness of the unit. women were viewed differently by men in those generations...
Dang I wish you guys didn’t cut off the question segment
This was excellent! 0:26
Thank you for your input! Are there any other speakers you would like to see us bring on?
There's this saying, "In the land of the blind the one-eyed man is king."
Actually, in the land of the blind the one-eyed man is the object of universal _envy._ 🎉🎉🎉
how would they know unless he told them?
@@microy They never heard him trip over himself/fall into a ditch/bang his head against a wall... etc etc.
Has a better aim @ things!
So good
good work
I think Mad Dog Matis may have earned his nickname from the librarian for the time when he had 4 overdue books.
He turned out to be the eunuch we suspected.
@EDKguy I knew a lot of folks who were terrorized by the rioters for one whole summer. They really needed help. POTUS wanted to put the federal military to have an armed presence, so that the chaos would be contrasted. And James Mattis was the reason that we didn't get any help. He made a public statement that muddied everything up, and I hope history does not view him as some hero of in a positive way.
It's simple, we (law-abiding folks) needed help, and he didn't care.
@@requiemheidireprisal7824 Yes. It seems the nation is being turned upside down in every way imaginable.
@@EDKguy I hope everyone remembers that when he tries to sell his book, or when he tries to become a news pundit, everyone turns the TV off and not support him financially.
I guess that's all we can do. Nothing really.
Interesting
In the Army, success overrides almost all negative assessments among soldiers. If you are the go-to guy to get the job done does not matter if you are not handsome, speak in a deep voice, or wear your uniform all creased and clean.
The fault in your argument is that there are different types of success, different types of jobs to get done in war time vs. peace time. Even with the wars that the US has waged over the past 50 years, none of them have been all out wars against powerful peer competitors, where the country was actually jeopardized. What we have today are peace time generals and admirals, who occasionally lead military operations against vastly inferior opponents. Sure, the boots on the ground are getting the "full treatment", but not the brass.
Our best war time generals are not the officers at the top today. They are the colonels and 1 or 2 star generals who will never ascend higher in the military hierarchy than they already have, because they've pissed people off by asking the wrong (really right) questions, or by challenging orthodoxy. Perhaps they got on the wrong side of a risk averse/zero fault bureaucracy when they tried something novel and failed.
I believe that it was Admiral King during WW2 who said something to the effect that "When the wars start, they bring back the sons of bitches."
@@brunopadovani7347 what an excellent comment! I tend to call those at the top these days the "Corporate Generals and Admirals". There is a place for them, but it most assuredly is not in command of combat operations.
General George Washington was shot many times by natives sharp shooters but couldn't be hit. Natives saw he had a devine celestial quest
Hilarious! If he wasn't hit, he wasn't "shot."
@@37Dionysos atheist
@@georgerod5676 No, I just think "god" is either cruel or, at best, totally indifferent.
@@37Dionysos divine intervention or luck of the Irish you make your own interpretation
@@georgerod5676 Yeah, like "god" intervened to create Amurka, or for that matter Israhell.
I can't imagine Prof. Hanson being allowed on the Princeton campus nowadays.
These points were all extremely compelling and I won't deny them, but I think he sort of glossed over the fact that Sherman's army was Grant's first.
Shout out to all midwesterners though, y'all are tough SOBs (or DOBs). Love from New England.
I dont see CQ Brown or Austin winning our wars or succeeding at much...
Your "nickname" in my household is: General George Victor Davis Hanson Patton,he remembered his battles in past lives Reinacting war tactics on the same battle fields. Tasha Steele
The US have been eroding from within for years…
Those that know understand were from and why .
Perhaps we should finally bring this all to a hard and tell the people….
A good start to the talk, but he lost me when he started comapring Petraeus on an equal footing with Grant and Sherman.
I don't see the date listed here, but I bet this video is like 15 years old.
That's a factor.
Far be it from me to take issue on a point of history with VDH, whose knowledge of the subject is encyclopedic. But perhaps his knowledge of weapons is less so. George Patton's trademark handguns had IVORY stocks, which are much different from PEARL handles. Ivory stocks have handling properties far different from pearl, which go far beyond their appearance, which is one reason they are several orders of magnitude more expensive and highly sought after. They give the shooter a much better grip, especially when the hands, or the weapon is wet with rain, perspiration, or blood. Pearl grips have no such properties, and are typically cheap imitations of ivory stocks. Pearl grips on the two very expensive carry pistols he was famous for would have offended the patrician Patton's sensibililties beyond words.
In fact, when questioned about his "pearl handled pistols" by a reporter, Patton reportedly said, "They're ivory! Only a pimp from a cheap New Orleans whorehouse would carry a pearl-handled pistol." This is a minor point, and given the thousands if not millions of facts swirling around in VDH's head, the mistake can certainly be forgiven. He is a national treasure.
All wars are civil wars in Jesus the son of God our fathers world.
"Swear no oaths, Let your yes mean yes and your no mean no. Less the evil ones use you to kill your brother."
Repent & Follow Jesus as the time has come.
great man but the quality of video is horrible!
This video is probably 15 years old.
I hope Victor is advising the IDF...!!?
The original "Savior General": Jephthah
I truly think that the next election will be an inflection point for America. Surrender and go over the cliff or choose to pull back and make changes.
I would pay to hear him talk in his sleep.🥰 Mick the Hick
Patton’s pistols had ivory handles. Pearl handles were worn by New Orleans pimps.
President Trump will most likely prove to be a good example of this.
VDH wrote an entire book on just that topic.
The Case for Trump
David patreyouse really?
They didn't list the date here, but this video is probably about 15 years old.
That's a factor.
Not commiserate, but commensurate I think you mean to say.
Scipio Africanus was not an inferior general.
…
Victor,
Patton’s pistols were not pearl handled they were ivory!
Come on man!
Only a New Orleans pimp would carry a pearl handle pistol!
TRUMP FOREVER
As long as God keeps him, we will take that forsure!
trump for president
These are the wolves in sheep's clothing, you know them by their works: Who has honor while suggesting a reality-God? As if we did not have the saying: God helps those helping themselves, because the fiction is known for a perfect record of nothing-doing. Moreover, it cannot be moral or ethical to suggest there is a god. As if one should respect the suggestion, we all travel with one foot in fantasyland, using a fantasyland vocabulary.
WE DON'T HAVE PATTON AND EISENHOWER; THESE DAYS, WE HAVE MILLEY AND AUSTIN.
Patton would have been mustered out if the war had been delayed. Eisenhower had a poor combat record prior to 1941.
@@darbyheavey406 I HAVE NEWS FOR YOU; MILLEY WILL BE RECALLED TO DUTY AND THEN HE WILL BE CHARGED WITH TREASON FOR MEETING WITH FOREIGN AGENTS (CHINESE GENERALS) BEHIND PRESIDENT TRUMPS BACK. A TREAONABLE OFFENSE. THAT RIDICULOUS A** MILLEY NEVER REALIZED THAT HE SERVES AT THE BEHEST OF THE PRESIDENT. THEN THERE IS THE SUCCESS OF AFGHANISTAN AS WELL.
@@darbyheavey406 Ike never commanded any combat unit. He was effective in the more political arena of high command but was never a combat leader in person.
Both should be recognized as traitors to society.
@@ToddSauve IKE WAS HAND PICKED BY MARSHALL TO BE SUPREME ALLIED COMMANDER BECAUSE HE WAS EXCELLENT WITH LOGISTICS. HE WAS A COLONEL FOR 13 YEARS AND WAS PROMOTED OVER EVERYONE AND ROSE 6 RANKS TO BE A 4 STAR GENERAL; IT CAUSED A GREAT DEAL OF JEALOUSY. BY THE WAY; THE REASON THE ALLIES WON WAS BECAUSE OF PATTON IN THE FIELD AND IKE PLANNING THINGS.