Ivan Demidov Is A Player Like You've Never Seen Before
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- Опубликовано: 2 май 2024
- David St-Louis breaks down the game of Ivan Demidov.
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Him and Bedard together will feed families
real
This dude will be a blackhawk
For generations
Hawks will take Levshunov or Silayev
nan , Montreal want him. and rumours said that he only want to play for Montreal
Bedard getting Kucherov 2.0 is a scary sight
What an overstatement, comparing this kid to Kucherov when he's never played against men is setting yourself up for huge disappointment.
@@s.b.3275 he outscored kucherov in the mhl already.
Это скорее Демидов получит Бедарда
MLB fan right?
@chrisculver8848 nhl is a totally different thing... who cares about junior rank hockey... it doesnt matter... its a whole different thing at the nhl level
...
Future hawks legend
I can already see the unreal assists this kid will give Bedard
Can you imagine? Last season, every team focused on Bedard and let the rest of team beat them. With this guy, teams couldn't cheat and Bedard with room will be deadly.
And vice versa, i was most impressed by Bedards passing skills
The question I have is what is his attitude like? Humble and coachable? Or selfish and ego-driven?
Would love for him to be on Bedard's line. Might not happen with the amount of average/undersized forwards in Chi's pipeline but Demidov looks special
Luckily our defense is going to be 6’4 on average lol wyatt kaiser is the smallest and only midget.. korch is even listed 6’3
I hope we get Demidov
Nothing average about demidov . Regardless of size. stud if he translates.. him with bedard would be like 2 hockey Genius scientists on the ice lol dude is going to inspire new hockey players for years to come. He has his own plays and fakes no one else does..
Grabing Eiserman with Tampas pick would be great. He would hit 50 goals next to Bedard despite other concerns.
@@tomslick2058use Tampa pick and a second or bext years Toronto pick to move back into the top 15
Can get a PF at 20, plus we got 4 second round picks! We good 😊
I think they will put them on the same line. The third forward will definitely be someone with a lot of size though that they will probably stick right in front of the goalie
Just want to appreciate all the Montreal fans that I consistently involved in discussing how much they want every prospect.
Most interactive fan base I’ve seen
We did get everyone from the 2019
Or at least it feels like
@@alexkayak6587 y’all got 3 of the first round picks that year, only one of which you guys actually picked. And only one of them has been consistently healthy. And I wouldn’t rank any of them in the top 5 of that draft. Caufield would be the only one in the top 10. But not too bad considering how rough that draft year was.
@@devdev5392 So who are the 5 players you have above Caufield? Hughes and Seider are the only players without debate from that draft who are better and I'm sure lots would also say Boldy but that's it. Also would like to know who the 10 better players are than Newhook and Dach.
@@csx-hazardx Cozens, Boldy, Harley round out the top 5. Zegras, Vlasic, Caufield, York, and Shane Pinto or Hoglander round out the top 10. Newhook has not strung together multiple strong seasons, and has spent too much time injured. And Dach is remarkably skilled, but his injuries are really piling on and getting worse with each injury. It’s not inconceivable to see his career cut short sooner rather than later.
@@devdev5392 this is irrelevant to the Montreal/Caufield discussion but I'd personally have Zegras over Cozens. Cozens has really only had one good season, there's a larger sample size of Zegras being a more impactful player throughout his career up to this point.
This isn't directed at you but it feels like many are using the recency bias of this past year to try and validate their preconceived notions about Zegras being "not good" or "overrated" all while they blatantly ignore the context of him beginning the season with a groin injury which hindered his production early on, then obviously he breaks his ankle later in the year.
Zegras had 8 points over his final 8 games to finish the year and showed tangible improvements in his 200 ft game whenever he was in the lineup, and even added layers to his offensive game when he began generating off the cycle. I'm a Cozens fan don't get me wrong but I personally think Zegras is a lot more dynamic and there hasn't been a large discrepancy in their career defensive numbers up to this point either.
Crazy how he lives on his inside edges. Reminds me of crosby with the 'Mohawk' he is always doing.
Demidov is such a satisfying player to watch
Oar did that.
I absolutely love his unique skating and magical toolbox he pulls all kinds of unexpected shit out of..
My favorite player in the entire draft.
Sure with creativity but also you aren't going to be doing this in the NHL. Honestly this could be a boom or bust player. Need to see him do this in a physical pro setting. No one is hitting him, he will crumble in the playoffs
@@tylerN76796 We’ll see. He’s the most talented player in the draft with the puck on his stick so I would take my chances with him over anyone not named Celebrini~
@@tylerN76796 Kaprizov does it, why won't Demidov?
@@Kshahdoo67 Facts. Same with Kuch tbh
@@nickboyd6716 Demidov looks more like Kaprizov than Kucherov. It's Michkov who closer to Kuch.
Demigod-Bedsy will be insane
Hall-Bedard-demidov
Reichel-nazar-Kurashev
Folingo-Moore-slaggert
The top 9 potential is nuts in Chicago
Maybe moore and definitely demidov will not be up next year though
Idk if a hawks fan and I'm not sure there is much star talent after bedard and demidov. I like naars odds but it could use another guy. Hopefully a big center in the top 5 of next years draft. Have a feeling nazar is gonna move to wing eventually.
@@LucyBatman I know he won’t that’s just potential
@@user-bl4ex2ep4y not much star talent? Nazar and moore have start talent and reichel had one mad year nvm all the d-men prospects we have. Do some reasearch buddy bedard, Demidov, Moore, Nazar are enough elite forward potential since we also have Reichel, slaggert, Kurashev, Hayes and alot of picks
@@Blackhawkenjoyer I think we seem to have different criteria for a "star". For me that's a guy who has 0.75 ppg in a career. Nazar and more have never been the top score on any of there past teams(NTDP and college). They both have chances but I'd say it's in the 30 percent range. Same goes for Reichel. I'm talking about guys with legit 70 present projectable star potential(demidov, (Hagens, Martone, Frondel, Misa 2025)). Nothing wrong with being optimistic just odds would implicate the team needs more high end star ability. Bottom 6 forward depth is in a good spot spot though.
wow! He is very impresive! and that skating, jesus I've never seen that before. It's weird how well it works for him. God I would love for the Habs to get that guy!
Loved the video has always! Can't wait for Elite Prospects draft guide btw.
0:40 that has a Bure vibe to it, silky like Datsyuk, he's such a fun player to watch.
Montreal should do everything to move up and pick him if they don't win the lottery, he would end their rebuild and be the superstar they need to be contender
Would you be willing to trade one of Hutson or Mailloux to move up? Just curious
@@lethanosjames2976def not worth trading them, it’s gunna be our first (5oa) maybe the Winnipeg pick and a b level prospect
@@lethanosjames2976 Mailloux yes everyday of the week. Hutson … I’m really 50/50 but I think I would do it. How about you?
@@TChockey I would keep huston but mailloux i would trade
@@TChockey I feel the exact same way lol, I'd keep Hutson personally but also wouldn't be sad to see him go if it meant we'd get Demidov
Kaprizov is one of the most similar players in the NHL that uses 10 and 2 often on offensive plays
I thought he finished 2nd in the 2008 WSOP to Peter Eastgate. Now he's a hockey prospect!
Welcome to Chicago
He’s a great skater, and yet his legs are really wide - helps him create space from defenders. Tremendous vision. I would love to see him with bedard, but will enjoy watching his development in the nhl irrespective of where he lands.
Blackhawks baby
j'aime beaucoup tes analyses, merci pour ton gros travail 🤌
Fait plaisir!
Bedard - Nazar - Demidov
Bedard is a Center and that line is too small. They need at least 1 guy over 6 feet with good 2-way game.
@@darkstark1949 That is literally Lindstrom lmao
If Chicago doesn’t end up with Celebrini I really hope we get this kid
They would have to drop in the draft below their #2 spot for them NOT to take him. They need Fs.
@@MisterCautionluckily that didn’t happen. I bet we will take him considering he has one more year in the MHL and has shown willingness to transition to the NHL
@@Kuffdad Hard to say, but that would be my pick. SKA StP plays home games on NHL size ice, so the trajectory from MHL to KHL next year to NHL or AHL the year after looks good.
wow he has such a confident stick handle and edge work that his brain is completely open to being able to process. This guy absolutely loves playing hockey because of that.
Please HuGo, do whatever it takes to get Demidov
His inside edgework reminds me of Makar or Crosby with how Demidov is always changing the angle and drawing defenders to him
Kaprizov also
Welcome to Chicago Kid !!!!😎
Great breakdown
2:20 that inside control is crazy, he's building speed.
Great video, thanks. Hope he'll be a Montreal Canadiens.
holy shit that is impressive
Bonjour David, as-tu la chaîne équivalente en français? Merci très bon contenu.
The next Kuch! 🙌
You must've been asked this question a 1000 times David, but how would you compare him with Michkov? Why would Demidov be gone before 7th this year? Thanks for your amazing work again!
I *like* draft year Demidov more than draft year Michkov. He's showing more straight skill, more creativity, more physicality, and a better motor. But we didn't get to see Demidov play against KHL opponents that much. If I had to pick, I would choose Michkov still because of the better profile. They're both extremely smart players.
@@davidst-louis8315 Michkov is too unique to understand his game, Demidov is more conventional player, and his game is easier to understand. That's why a lot of people love him more than Michkov. It's a mistake though to think Demidov is going to be better than Michkov. I personally very doubt it. They both can become NHL superstars, like, say, Kucherov and Panarin. But I think nobody will hesitate who to choose between these two, and Michkov is as close to Kucherov by talent as possible. I'd even say he's more talented than Kuch.
He’s soooooo good he’s the next Gretzky. Anything!
He’ll look good with Bedard!
Truthfully, I think he is high end to the extent that he could and should be a very good player; however, I also rebuke the notion that we've never seen anybody like him before. I think it's closer to the antithesis than the thesis here. outside of the fact that guys have open hip edge work and attacking the triangle down to a science before they hit junior, he looks A LOT like a 17 year old Nikita Filatov. I think we saw our fair share of guys that played the game like Demidov roughly 15 years ago/as the game and its talents adjusted to each other early in the post-lockout landscape. I think there is a reason for that, and I think there is a reason why we havent seen it in a while.There were some uber talented guys that dazzled their way into the top 10 picks of drafts and it became apparent that the guys who had the requisite skill to replicate it up at the NHL level did really well. Equally apparent: The guys that couldn't quite hack it when asked to do it with consistency against heightened NHL caliber defending were pretty useless in an nhl game that was was starting to get faster, but was just as different when compared to the clutch and grab play of the decade prior, as it is when compared the the open north-south hockey of todays NHL game in 2024. Now with the game even more open, you've see the archetype shift to guys more akin to Jack Huges or Logan Cooley. With those kind of guys, the separation in created through the neutral zone and by stretching out defenses to the point where they can make plays from more open space rather than requiring the precise hands to turn defenders inside out with frequency in order to get just enough separation to create an opportunity.
All good points. And it's why there's more risk with Demidov's projection. He's a dangler more than crossover rusher (Berkly Catton). You can make the bet that's going to adapt and/or that his skills are so high-level that he will find ways to make them work anyway.
@@davidst-louis8315 agreed sir. and catton certainly fits that more modern archetype I was trying to convey. I've probably watched him the least of any highly touted guys because I didnt have to get very far in his game cuts to be like 'yep, somebody is going to take him top 10 and ask him to do that for 16 minutes a night.'
100% agree. I have seen plenty of players play like that. I also question some of his decisions which I could see at a higher level turning into huge mistakes that go the other way.
@@davidst-louis8315 You are missing the point where he is compared to Kucherov. He sees the site like few others can.
If hes on a line with Oliver Moore on the Blackhawks, thats the Demi Moore line
Good Video, Martin St. Louis knows what he is talking about.
Can you give a good comparison between demidov and michkov?
Have a feeling he’s a Blackhawk. Just thinking of his playmaking with Bedard is so disgusting, and I’m not even a Chicago fan
Chicago didn't win the lottery yet somehow they still won the draft
I feel that way as well. People are sleeping on Eiserman, and he was the unanimous number two not long ago. Best scorer in the draft and only seventeen. Experts have him written off defensively already. I remember watching Kane all those years, and when it came to defense, it was like he had a piano tied to his back. Eisermans' job was to score and score he did! I wouldn't be sad with either!
Your newest Chicago Blackhawk
This guy looks elite
I saw somewhere he fell to #8 I really doubt it but I’d love to pad our top 6 for the future
Yep...he's freakin' good!
Future Blackhawk
If the Sharks win the lottery, i almost want them to pick Demidov 😅 He is so slick with the puck
Tanks David, I would watch your analysis all day long! What do you think one per day?
I'm not that fast haha. One per week is what I can manage right now :p
@@davidst-louis8315Tu peux en faire une pour Brandsegg-Nygard et quelle pourrait être sa projection pour la NHL ? J'en perdrais pas une miette ^^
Off to Chicago
Best team the NHL can build
I guess they will get the #3 overall for 2025.
Montreal 's accelerated rebuild is coming closer to an end. Even though they have already added several good players like Slaf, Dach, Reinbacher and Newhood, HuGo have still failed so far to obtain that special elite player/game breaker which could change the face of the franchise...Celebriny and Demidov could be one of those players but they have to win the lottery to make sure to get one of those two. However, if Demidov was to slide because of the russian factor...then maybe Montreal has a chance to get him !!!
The sharks not getting the #1 isn't so bad if this guy is the consolation.
I think he will go second especially since he only has one year left. But will he extend ? Personally I think Connelly is very similar and peeps are sleeping on him. Will be interesting who the Hawks take given they need size on the front and a future RHD.
why is he not playing in the kohl this year
4 straight MHL seasons?
He reminds me so much of mitch marner when he played in london
Any news on his injury looked pretty bad hope all is good
Blackhawks, please draft him with The #2 pick
Alex Barabanov is a skilled winger who loves to use 10 and 2's. He had a down year this past season, but he's been a pretty effective NHL player for the Sharks.
Reminds me of Marty Havlat for some reason
Same, reminds me of Martin Havlat with Pat Kane's hands (Havlat's skill was also through the rough)
The Blackhawks have many options to choose in this draft but Demidov looks pretty solid. He could fit that role of scoring goals and receiving easy passes from bedard.
And vice versa.
Hawks need someone dynamic like this to take focus away from Bedard. I wouldn't sleep on Eiserman either. The kid is seventeen and the best scorer in the draft.
@@Sgt.Hairclub that it he can only score, I feel ivan brings way more offense than cole, but if coles falls to the 20 pick grab him or possible draft up
@@Sgt.Hairclubprobably can get him at 20, if he slides, Ivan at #2 Cole # 20, or they have enough draft capital to move up if they feel someone has chance of taking Eiserman! Damn that would be insane 😅
Blackhawks are getting him
This might be a silly question but what does it mean to have a "good motor?"
Consistently works hard and keeps his feet moving.
Thank you!
To add to above, keeping their feet moving usually means they're a good forechecker since they're never giving up on the play, as well as good at finding open ice and being in the right spot, since they're not averse to skating a little extra to get to where they should be.
Next Datsyuk.
I don’t think he will be the best offensive player on the Blackhawks but he could be the second best. Bedard’s shot is just so incredible no way this guy will be able to score like him.
The Hawks desperately need a dynamic threat to take pressure off of Bedard. Teams were just focusing on Bedard and daring the rest of the team to beat them. A guy like Demidov or even Eiserman would demand respect and give Bedard room. Room which would be devastating!
Welcome to Chicago Demigod, hawks nation !!
1 word ~ Kadri
How is this guy not ranked first overall ? He's levels ahead of celebrini
wdym? MHL level of competation is lower. Celebrini is a more complete player and breaking records as a 17 year old in a physical NCAA league against players that are 18-26.
Celebrini's playstyle is easier to see work well in the NHL, he has performed well against higher levels of competition, he's a center, he's slightly bigger, he's 6 months younger and Canadian.
@@bajjanitor Yeah i figured Demidov's nationality played a role in him being ranked #2. But in terms of talent and potential Demidov is clearly the better choice
@@Wiserhuman1 Celebrini is just a way safer pick, you know what you're getting with him a good 2way center. Demidov could be Nikita Kucherov... or he could be Nail Yakupov.
There is a 50% chance that Demidov will turn in to the next Alexander Semin. Celebrini is a 100% guarantee.
Closest player to Pavel Datsuk in the offensive zone.
Future Blackhawk 🙌
No, the hawks are either drafting a power forward or a defensman. They already have bedard,nazar and more as small forwards
@@warriorcobra. You don't draft for need at #2, you draft best player available. Especially when nobody knows if Nazar or Moore will actually be good NHL players. Hopefully they're both incredible, but 1 of them hasn't seen NHL ice and the other has played 3 games. Last year everyone was talking about Reichel being a top 6 "core" player, this year people were ready to get rid of him. In other words, pump the brakes.
@@darkstark1949 well the habs did draft a defensman last year instead of getting the best player available
@@warriorcobra. Yes and they've been horrible for like 40 years, why would you follow their lead?
Also Kyle Davidson said today on the radio they're taking best player available: ruclips.net/video/kKS_idmljH8/видео.html says it at around 5 min 20s mark
@@darkstark1949 they litteraly made the finals 2 years ago
CHIIIIICAAAGOOOO - patrick kane
Ummm have you ever heard of Pavel Datsyuk??
Why is he not playing in a higher division/league, such as KHL? He’s clearly the best player in the highlights but there is a slight concern that he’s going up against lesser competition, so still some unknowns.
Punished because he won't extend his contract in Russia.
SKA wont even play Michov or Demidov for some reason they seem to hate playing young players
@@davidst-louis8315that's good.I don't want to wait 3 or 4 years for a player
@@davidst-louis8315
Have you heard he's actively not extending? Is the implication that he wants to come over asap?
@@dangshnizzle6929 No inside info but that's what I read around.
He’s in the Matrix
elite edge work and flexibility changing speeds sounds like the legendary kharlamov
please lord drop to 7
I just wonder how all of of this translates in NHL playoff hockey...
Welcome to the Chicago Blackhawks.
It kinda sucks that they buried him in the MHL because he wants to go to NA.
It’s going to be insane when the Flyers draft him!!!
Jim Nill is gonna take him and look like a genius once again
Ya? At pick 28??
@@alecmurawski3980 probably🤣
welcome to the hawks
Hughes-Kaprizov hybrid?
Looks like Lane hudson style player
Brandt Clock
Crazy to think how the Russian junior team would do at the WJC's if politics wasn't a factor (which it shouldn't be)
Anaheim
I don't think any GM should draft russian players. How many headcase, slackers do we have to see to be sick of it?
Ivan Demigod
Montreal should do everything to pick him do a trade go HABS
Future Red Wing
How ? Lol 😅
He should have made that pass
Patrick Sharp?
Some people try to suggest this guy is as good as michkov 🤣 🤣 🤣
Plays like a more passing Antonio Stranges
Welcome to Montreal 🔵⚪️🔴
Hopefully
Chicago**
He’s not falling past two so welcome to Chicago
Lol Chicago
Flyers should trade up and create an elite Russian duo on their top line
Datsyuk similarities
needs Datsyuk's old jersey
3:38 that whole sequence was insane, made the defensemen look like little children
I don't think there were many instances in hockey where a player was so satisfying to watch, you can't argue that
absolutely my kind of player
Potential future duck