As a child Goku was faster than lightning and could dodge it. Lightning is almost relativistic, so by this point Goku is moving very close to if not faster than light
No he is not. You clearly do not understand what speed of light means lmao. They are not moving at the speed of light even in the Buu saga and most of Super, let alone Dragon ball. There are plethora of examples of that, whereas every single example of them moving at the speed of light are comments like these who clearly can’t grasp what that even means.
@grydon6422 he saw the lightning coming, had time to think and react and move his entire body out of the way of lightning as a 12 Year old. This is over 4 years of growth later. It would be a great feat for him to be moving already and the lightning missing him, but he was standing still, waiting for it. He was on the top of a mountain meaning that the lightning originated a lot closer to his head than if he were at ground level, so you really think that if he can wait until he sees the lightning coming, processes it, reacts and still moves enough to avoid the strike isn't a feat that is near relativistic, I don't know what is. This is 4 years later and he's done nothing but exponentially grown, the reason you don't think it is occurring as fast as it is, is because it is being slowed down so we can perceive it. And if they aren't moving at light speed by buu then how come Gohan couldn't see the sayan saga fights until piccolo taught him to use his ki to sense where they are instead of his eyes?
@@grydon6422 lol this is a troll right? you do realize lightning is 1/3 the speed of light. goku dodged it as a child, you really think he hasn't gotten 3 times faster? you must be high or stupid.
Baris was right when comparing this fight to Cell games. Cell was using techniques of other Z fighters including the one Tien performed in this match, but Goku was experienced enough not to fall for it. Also, you probably forgot that Tien used the multiform technique in the Tournament of Power in DBS.
I do love how Goku can be playful like stealing Tien's belt with his insane speed but a total savage by telling Tien he made the mistake of splitting himself into four. Friend or foe, Goku isn't afraid to mess with ya lol
12:35 Goku (atleast up to this point) isnt "losing so much power". Notice how Tien was breathing heavy and Goku wasnt tired at all, even BEFORE taking off the weighted gear. sure he's in a fight but with his endurance, this level is nothing to him. When in dragon ball have you seen someone "tired" from a previous fight, atleast in the tournaments. EDIT: "really tired" was idk just such a bad use of words esp seen as he did a whole performance afterwards. and THAT was his "warmup"
Goku's endurance up to this tournament is SCARY, definitely one of the things he worked on the most and i love that it kinds of connect with the oxygen from Kami's sanctuary. You might end someone if you're strong and fast but someone strong or fast with GREAT endurance might end you in the long term.
Goku's clothes weigh a combined 140 Kilos, which translates to 308.5 lbs. As someone who used to walk a treadmill with 75lbs of weights on me, I can't even begin to imagine what 4x that weight would feel like.
Tien's technique is called multi-form in DBZ I think. He uses it in the tournament of power too. They can all do it in DBZ. It's one of piccolo's favorite training techniques, and piccolo and krillin both use it against Napa. And yeah Cell does it too. FYI Shadow clones in Naruto divide a person's chakra the same way this technique does. That's why multi Shadow clone jutsu is a forbidden technique, and Naruto is basically the only one that can use it the way he does. It can burn up the average person's chakra in no time, and potentially kill them.
I love how in the red ribbon army arch he was pulling a full grown tree while walking on his fingertips and now he thinks 100kg = 220lb is heavy. By the way the min weight of the tree he was dragging based on its size was 1 ton = 2000lb. Dragon ball power scalling is dumb😅
I heard something recently where someone suggested Tien using fusion with his clones because the fused version would get a multiplier, making it stronger than his base
the weakness is this, in the shishino ken or quadraple images, you split into 4 BUT YOUR strengh defence and speed are cutting into 1/4 of the original, but what would happen if in that moment the oponent increase his speed to the max , tien was on bottom and goku to the top, and because of no defence the hit will be devastate evem if he block it, thats why picolo shocked a bit , because he saw goku's great speed that worried him a little, krilin and yamcha couldnt even SEE how he throw tien out of the ring, and tien didnt have the time to fly either, as for goku he didnt even use kamehame, unbelievable right! oh by the way this eyebeam could easily be a dodon wave from the eye not finger, the other from the corner is just a strong ki wave! and thats why kikoho or tribeam is his stronger technique , whoever he never uses it ONTO an oponent, for obvious resons of danger, until now that is!
In the Manga, Goku said to Tien that splitting up into 4 was a mistake. Goku said it "is a great strategy, but if you split into fourths, then all of your attack, defense and speed are a quarter of their usual." Goku learned a lot of combat strategy from Popo,
He takes off a total of 150 kilos so that's about 330 or so pounds he took off. His shirt was 100 kilos, his boots were 20 kilos each and his wristbands where 5 kilos each.
A lot of ppl sleep on DB but I think it's great. At times, it's better than Z bc it isn't as fast paced. Z puts more focus on the fighting and has an urgency at times bc of what's at stake. DB spends more time on it's story and almost every character has their story and growth. I've always enjoyed the fights in DB as well. I like the focus on physical, hand-to-hand fighting, while Z gradually leans into fights using Ki blasts and other energy techniques. You really get to see just how badass and how skilled everyone is, especially Goku. You get a real appreciation for all of the Z Fighters bc of how much time and energy they've put into training.
In DBZ, when the z-fighters are training at Kami’s for the Saiyans, we see Tien use multiform technique, and Yamcha use the spirit ball as little callbacks to dragonball.
Between the Kamehameha the other techniques that everyone knows is the afterimage and the solar flare so many people use them cause of how useful they are
This is the one thing I prefer about Dragon Ball over Dragon Ball Z is the actual martial arts. The only time I see actual martial arts in Z is Goku vs Cell. I miss fights like Goku vs Tien.
One kilogram is equivalent to 2.2 pounds. So if the shirt and wristbands weigh 100 kilograms, that is 220 pounds and each bo9t weighs 20 kilograms, that is 44 pounds each.
Goku vs Tenshinhan still the best fight in OG DB, in my opinion.. it was our last to see unique martials arts before explosive overpowered destructive battles is introduced.. DBZ...
kinda, not with the flexibility of his depicted clothes. you can get weight vests that is a vest with a bunch of pockets that you add thin weighted plates to the pockets to add weight.
“You made the first one worst by breaking into 4”, goku essentially telling tien he’s not built like that😂
*Showing key flashbacks to when young Goku trained with heavy clothing*
Baris: Yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap yap
He NEVER stops, I swear 😂
As a child Goku was faster than lightning and could dodge it. Lightning is almost relativistic, so by this point Goku is moving very close to if not faster than light
No he is not. You clearly do not understand what speed of light means lmao. They are not moving at the speed of light even in the Buu saga and most of Super, let alone Dragon ball. There are plethora of examples of that, whereas every single example of them moving at the speed of light are comments like these who clearly can’t grasp what that even means.
@grydon6422 he saw the lightning coming, had time to think and react and move his entire body out of the way of lightning as a 12 Year old. This is over 4 years of growth later. It would be a great feat for him to be moving already and the lightning missing him, but he was standing still, waiting for it. He was on the top of a mountain meaning that the lightning originated a lot closer to his head than if he were at ground level, so you really think that if he can wait until he sees the lightning coming, processes it, reacts and still moves enough to avoid the strike isn't a feat that is near relativistic, I don't know what is. This is 4 years later and he's done nothing but exponentially grown, the reason you don't think it is occurring as fast as it is, is because it is being slowed down so we can perceive it. And if they aren't moving at light speed by buu then how come Gohan couldn't see the sayan saga fights until piccolo taught him to use his ki to sense where they are instead of his eyes?
@@grydon6422 lol this is a troll right? you do realize lightning is 1/3 the speed of light. goku dodged it as a child, you really think he hasn't gotten 3 times faster? you must be high or stupid.
@@grydon6422 That's absolutely not the case. Even Raditz was faster than light. Goku is at least relativistic at this point. Easily.
Baris was right when comparing this fight to Cell games. Cell was using techniques of other Z fighters including the one Tien performed in this match, but Goku was experienced enough not to fall for it. Also, you probably forgot that Tien used the multiform technique in the Tournament of Power in DBS.
I do love how Goku can be playful like stealing Tien's belt with his insane speed but a total savage by telling Tien he made the mistake of splitting himself into four. Friend or foe, Goku isn't afraid to mess with ya lol
That little spin move Goku pulled to avoid the ring out is one of his evasive maneuvers on xenoverse 2.
12:35 Goku (atleast up to this point) isnt "losing so much power". Notice how Tien was breathing heavy and Goku wasnt tired at all, even BEFORE taking off the weighted gear. sure he's in a fight but with his endurance, this level is nothing to him. When in dragon ball have you seen someone "tired" from a previous fight, atleast in the tournaments.
EDIT: "really tired" was idk just such a bad use of words esp seen as he did a whole performance afterwards. and THAT was his "warmup"
WHEN the backround is black , it means whatever you see is happening insanily fast , in less than seconds! and still it needs explanations
I really liked this match up! Goku showing Tien how much stronger he’s gotten and defeating him with was a great watch.
cool detail i never noticed until now 14:58 when goku takes his belt, we can see its gone in the next few frames before goku announces it.
Goku removing the weighted clothing inspired generations of other anime.
Goku's endurance up to this tournament is SCARY, definitely one of the things he worked on the most and i love that it kinds of connect with the oxygen from Kami's sanctuary.
You might end someone if you're strong and fast but someone strong or fast with GREAT endurance might end you in the long term.
Goku's clothes weigh a combined 140 Kilos, which translates to 308.5 lbs. As someone who used to walk a treadmill with 75lbs of weights on me, I can't even begin to imagine what 4x that weight would feel like.
Tien's technique is called multi-form in DBZ I think. He uses it in the tournament of power too. They can all do it in DBZ. It's one of piccolo's favorite training techniques, and piccolo and krillin both use it against Napa. And yeah Cell does it too.
FYI Shadow clones in Naruto divide a person's chakra the same way this technique does. That's why multi Shadow clone jutsu is a forbidden technique, and Naruto is basically the only one that can use it the way he does. It can burn up the average person's chakra in no time, and potentially kill them.
35:03 I remember this moment from the German dub, too. It was SO awesome. 🤤
I like it when you guys do double Episodes
It's crazy to think that Dr.Gero's robot was analyzing this fight for his ultimate creation
I love how in the red ribbon army arch he was pulling a full grown tree while walking on his fingertips and now he thinks 100kg = 220lb is heavy. By the way the min weight of the tree he was dragging based on its size was 1 ton = 2000lb. Dragon ball power scalling is dumb😅
12:04 me too I used to swim with 29 shirts on starting with 1x to 8x walk with weights kettlebells, clubs and maces a backpack w heavey bag all that
Club mace and kettlebells is my new thing muscle endurance time under tension
I heard something recently where someone suggested Tien using fusion with his clones because the fused version would get a multiplier, making it stronger than his base
the weakness is this, in the shishino ken or quadraple images, you split into 4 BUT YOUR strengh defence and speed are cutting into 1/4 of the original, but what would happen if in that moment the oponent increase his speed to the max , tien was on bottom and goku to the top, and because of no defence the hit will be devastate evem if he block it, thats why picolo shocked a bit , because he saw goku's great speed that worried him a little, krilin and yamcha couldnt even SEE how he throw tien out of the ring, and tien didnt have the time to fly either, as for goku he didnt even use kamehame, unbelievable right! oh by the way this eyebeam could easily be a dodon wave from the eye not finger, the other from the corner is just a strong ki wave! and thats why kikoho or tribeam is his stronger technique , whoever he never uses it ONTO an oponent, for obvious resons of danger, until now that is!
One of best fights in DB. I can feel Chichi's worry too. She's already scared during the tien fight imagine the next fight.. 😭
This is my favorite fight in all for Dragonball. Every version. Was epic
The moment Goku took those weighted clothes off, he put a leash on Tien and DOG WALKED him.
In the Manga, Goku said to Tien that splitting up into 4 was a mistake. Goku said it "is a great strategy, but if you split into fourths, then all of your attack, defense and speed are a quarter of their usual." Goku learned a lot of combat strategy from Popo,
Goku was just FAR superior.
Goku ain’t beating those stealing techniques allegations.
This reveal of the weight. Amazing. One of the great all time fights of DB
We're very thankful for the 2 piece special💯💯💯🤩🤩🤩
He takes off a total of 150 kilos so that's about 330 or so pounds he took off. His shirt was 100 kilos, his boots were 20 kilos each and his wristbands where 5 kilos each.
I used ankle weights and it helped me get faster. Fast enough to beat this one guy I kept losing to in a race.
Real reason bad launch loves Tien he can split in 4 and also grow extra arms 😂😂😂😂
A lot of ppl sleep on DB but I think it's great. At times, it's better than Z bc it isn't as fast paced. Z puts more focus on the fighting and has an urgency at times bc of what's at stake. DB spends more time on it's story and almost every character has their story and growth. I've always enjoyed the fights in DB as well. I like the focus on physical, hand-to-hand fighting, while Z gradually leans into fights using Ki blasts and other energy techniques. You really get to see just how badass and how skilled everyone is, especially Goku. You get a real appreciation for all of the Z Fighters bc of how much time and energy they've put into training.
In DBZ, when the z-fighters are training at Kami’s for the Saiyans, we see Tien use multiform technique, and Yamcha use the spirit ball as little callbacks to dragonball.
I mean technically, he never lost to any man. Two Saiyans!
Between the Kamehameha the other techniques that everyone knows is the afterimage and the solar flare so many people use them cause of how useful they are
Tien even cloned his pants :O
best way to learn martial arts - is Watching Dragonball
News flash tien also did the multi form technique in dragonball super in the tournament of power to eliminate a fight from one of the universes
This is the one thing I prefer about Dragon Ball over Dragon Ball Z is the actual martial arts. The only time I see actual martial arts in Z is Goku vs Cell. I miss fights like Goku vs Tien.
Solar Flare is one of the coolest techniques I think
One kilogram is equivalent to 2.2 pounds. So if the shirt and wristbands weigh 100 kilograms, that is 220 pounds and each bo9t weighs 20 kilograms, that is 44 pounds each.
Roshi the whole time:😠
also tien has 12 eyes , but solar flare pains the eyes way too much, so it was the perfect counter to this, plus goku doesnt need his eyes!
Tien actually used this technique during Tournament of Power
Goku vs Tenshinhan still the best fight in OG DB, in my opinion.. it was our last to see unique martials arts before explosive overpowered destructive battles is introduced.. DBZ...
So many incredible fights in this arc.
100 kilos is 220.462 pounds...goku walked around with a whole ass 6 foot 3 average athlete along with himself
goku learn 1 equal 4
Have you seen goku eyes are like Popo?
Yes Cell used this against Goku
Tien 23rd Budokai vs King Piccolo, who wins?
Are weight clothes like Goku wear real?
kinda, not with the flexibility of his depicted clothes. you can get weight vests that is a vest with a bunch of pockets that you add thin weighted plates to the pockets to add weight.
220 lbs without the boots
100kg is 220lbs :)
PEAK🔥
140kg total about 300lbs
I wonder why didn't you react to DBgt
45 pounds each boots 222 pounds total
It’s about 300 pounds