Again Woody, belated praise of another excellent analysis and guest presenter. Eisenhower was absolutely a great leader. The only comment I respectfully do not agree with was Eisenhower is an unparalleled military leader in WW2, Chester Nimitz (another Texan) equalled Eisenhower in greatness. I often wonder how much of Eisenhower's brilliance came from his time on Macarthur's staff in the Phillipines teaching how NOT to be a leader.
Thank you Paul and Col. Antal for a compelling discussion/presentation about the leadership of Dwight Eisenhower. It has given me much food for thought. What strikes me as most compelling is that he was made the supreme allied commander without ever himself commanding troops in combat. It is truly remarkable and speaks to how he impressed the leaders who placed him in this position. In addition, his subordinates' willingness to follow his orders reflects the respect he engendered among them. I find that to be one of the most remarkable features about Eisenhower's leadership success. The military is not set up for someone like Ike to ascend to one of the most powerful commands in history.
Thank you gentlemen for such a well round discussion of this leader. Well appreciated. My grandfather had nothing but admiration for his skill in WWII. He wasn't thrilled reporting to some of the British commanders, but he fulfilled his obligations to the command and what IKE directed the division to do in reporting through the British. Thanks again for Ms.Magali's excellent video work over the last days. It really brought the discussions to life.
Thank you for a fantastic episode. I found the whole topic fascinating and enlightening in equal measure. Colonel Antal is a very wise man and he made me reflect upon my own character, competency and commitment in my chosen work. I think that as you put it; "Eisenhower was a once in a generation leader" during a time when there were so many notable military figures. Thanks again for an excellent presentation. The content you bring us on WW2 TV is so very appreciated.
A must watch for anyone in leadership who strives to become the very best of their profession. And, from a historical perspective this show adds further detail to the study of Eisenhower, one of the most influential people of the 20th Century.
As a follow-up comment -- there was a lot of discussion on Eisenhower's ability to work with, influence and lead people. One of the books I've read that deals specifically with Eisenhower's relationship with Patton and Bradley is Jordan's BROTHERS, RIVALS, VICTORS. Now there was a complex, even tumutuous relationship. Good research on the powerful friendship he had with Patton, and how that evolved. Ditto Bradley. Good supplemental reading in this topic.
Great Presentation SO much better than any of the documentaries I have watched in my life. Thank you Paul for making this channel and all the work you, your team and all the guests bring to us
That was incredible. What an inspiration Ike was and John is. Another great show that actually made me think of how I am and my actions. Thanks again Paul.
Reading between the lines in his book "Crusade in Europe" provides a good idea of his humanity and character. In trying to portray him as a front line battlefield commander which he wasnt is to do him a grave disservice. His truly exceptional talent was to conduct an enormously complex orchestra full of more experienced people with their own opinions. The success of the whole enterprise reflects how good he was as supreme commander!
Col. John Antal (U.S. Army retired) is a superb speaker and his knowledge of Eisenhower's leadership is stellar. My only complaint is that the show wasn't longer!
Watching your channel is like comfort food with today's current events. I've liked Col. Antal since I first heard of him from Brothers in Arms Xbox game on 101st in Normand, which he was involved with. Best historical shooter game ever made in my opinion. Even taught a little history.
This is not only good “leadership” advice but advice on how to be a decent, honest, everyday human being. Excellent episode! I walked away with more than a few lessons learned.
Fabulous way to end Leadership Week, John's definition of leadership and how it applied to Ike was spot on. Paul I understand your point that West Point didn't create Ike because everyone who graduated from West Point didn't become an Ike. What West Point did was give Ike the tools, drive and discipline to harness his own abilities to produce the maximum outcome. What John did not mention that I think is important was how Ike embodied the words that reside on the West Point crest in everything he did. DUTY, HONOR, COUNTRY.
Great show again. Eisenhower seems at the time, and in retrospect uniquely talented to be placed as Supreme Allied Commander for the Normandy invasion.
There are nearly 500 views now. There were about 80 of us watching live. Quite an appealing episode. The value of watching live is that you get to join the live chat amongst the historians, enthusiasts and fans who are watching live. This episode generated quite a lively chat. I liked the point Paul chased down -- you don't really learn ALL of the leadership attributes from West Point. There are other skills, molded from other forms, other backgrounds. What were Eisenhower's other sources, other form molds, of leadership skills? There are as many opinions of Eisenhower's leadership as there are definitions of leadership. I picked up some real insights from the live chat also. Most agreed that, wherever Eisenhower's leadership was formed and polished, he was probably the best leader of a diverse and even testy coalition, with the critical motivational and people skills needed in that role. A thoroughly enjoyable discussion, on- and off-screen.
@@CFarnwideDo you know about the Army cross country expedition by automobile? There were two of them and Ike led them both. Talk about a learning experience! There were about 500 miles of paved roads in the whole country. Some places there weren't any roads at all. I think the first time they took about 3 months.
Such a great show. Very interesting to dissect his personality and explain why he was such a great leader and the right man at the right time. Who does not love Eisenhower? You do need a team of Eisenhower's, that won't work but you do need a leader like an Eisenhower to make such a diverse team work. As a social psychologist I find him really fascinating!
Ike was certainly a gift to the Good Guys (Allies). Paul - Your examination of people and events of WWII is superb! You're a damn fine interviewer who consistently gets the most out of your impressive guests. I appreciate these videos so much.
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I'd have done whatever I could for my officers that would talk to me like he was concerned over my well being, used my name when speaking with me etc. It may have been lip service, but it made me believe he wouldn't just throw my life away and not care about it.
Been around a few (not many and not for a long period) lieutenant generals/generals and one thing that struck me was how most don't seem all that interested in drawing lines on a map (exception: General Louis Menetry). Not saying this is "good" or "bad", just an observation. Certainly, some great generals stayed up late at night with a compass and a ruler, personally plotting the route of their next move. But at that level, a lot of it gets left to the staff and the commander's job is to approve or disapprove.
Mr Antal’s style is not my cup of tea which is not to say it’s not effective or attractive to the majority. Effective leadership is I think amoral. One can argue that people like Stalin or Hitler were high in leadership skills but were essentially evil. Character is an admirable thing and if one also has leadership skills then the direction of their leadership will benefit their followers. Half of the United States (I might assume Mr. Antal is among them) would currently assert that Donald Trump is the leader the country needs but Mr. Trump’s character is questionable at best. I happen to agree that Eisenhower combined high level leadership with high level character. I also think that Eisenhower is more than just administratively and politically skilled. He also has an excellent grasp of the tactical and strategic aspects of the ETO.
Eisenhower did a good job in WW2 by letting those with the talent do their job, though not always giving them the credit. It should be noted that Eisenhower as President of the United States completely botched the situation in the Middle East in 1956. The British, French and Israelis saw the danger in Nasser and acted, the Suez Crisis. Eisenhower forced the allies to withdraw hoping to curry favor with the Arabs. It totally backfired when Nasser gave all the credit to Khrushchev and put almost the entire Middle East into the Soviet camp for the next 30 years, indeed Syria is still in the Russian camp.
I think that using the Paratroopers to secure those brodges was a mistake. I think it would have been a much smarter use of their talents to attack the Rhine Bridges. Securing the central offensive line of movement.
President Grant, General Grant is another example of a person who reached the Highest spot in U.S. politics. There's just a whole lot of bosh and trash surrounding Grant and it can be difficult to sort through all that to see the man himself.
Not just business, Colonel Antal has used these Leadership principles teaching with the US Army and as Special Assistant to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Sigh, there's not a single past Republican President who could gain the nomination in today's environment. Well okay, Trump the orange lump, is very likely to get the Reputation nomation.
Paul
Great show again, showing great leadership in all things WWII.
Thanks
Callum
Superb show. The overview of Leadership showed the knowledgeable expertise I always value in an speaker.
Again Woody, belated praise of another excellent analysis and guest presenter. Eisenhower was absolutely a great leader. The only comment I respectfully do not agree with was Eisenhower is an unparalleled military leader in WW2, Chester Nimitz (another Texan) equalled Eisenhower in greatness. I often wonder how much of Eisenhower's brilliance came from his time on Macarthur's staff in the Phillipines teaching how NOT to be a leader.
I'm another person who thinks Nimitz is the Pacific theater equivalent of Eisenhower in the ETO.
Stellar program by Colonel John Antal (U.S. Army, retired).
Absolutely outstanding.
An amazing show! This is not only a great discussion about General Eisenhower but leadership in general.
Thank you Paul and Col. Antal for a compelling discussion/presentation about the leadership of Dwight Eisenhower. It has given me much food for thought. What strikes me as most compelling is that he was made the supreme allied commander without ever himself commanding troops in combat. It is truly remarkable and speaks to how he impressed the leaders who placed him in this position. In addition, his subordinates' willingness to follow his orders reflects the respect he engendered among them. I find that to be one of the most remarkable features about Eisenhower's leadership success. The military is not set up for someone like Ike to ascend to one of the most powerful commands in history.
Thank you gentlemen for such a well round discussion of this leader. Well appreciated. My grandfather had nothing but admiration for his skill in WWII. He wasn't thrilled reporting to some of the British commanders, but he fulfilled his obligations to the command and what IKE directed the division to do in reporting through the British.
Thanks again for Ms.Magali's excellent video work over the last days. It really brought the discussions to life.
Thank you for your support
Thank you for a fantastic episode.
I found the whole topic fascinating and enlightening in equal measure.
Colonel Antal is a very wise man and he made me reflect upon my own character, competency and commitment in my chosen work.
I think that as you put it; "Eisenhower was a once in a generation leader" during a time when there were so many notable military figures.
Thanks again for an excellent presentation. The content you bring us on WW2 TV is so very appreciated.
A must watch for anyone in leadership who strives to become the very best of their profession. And, from a historical perspective this show adds further detail to the study of Eisenhower, one of the most influential people of the 20th Century.
As a follow-up comment -- there was a lot of discussion on Eisenhower's ability to work with, influence and lead people. One of the books I've read that deals specifically with Eisenhower's relationship with Patton and Bradley is Jordan's BROTHERS, RIVALS, VICTORS. Now there was a complex, even tumutuous relationship. Good research on the powerful friendship he had with Patton, and how that evolved. Ditto Bradley. Good supplemental reading in this topic.
Great Presentation SO much better than any of the documentaries I have watched in my life. Thank you Paul for making this channel and all the work you, your team and all the guests bring to us
Wow, thank you!
Amazing show. A masterclass in leadership
That was incredible. What an inspiration Ike was and John is. Another great show that actually made me think of how I am and my actions. Thanks again Paul.
Reading between the lines in his book "Crusade in Europe" provides a good idea of his humanity and character. In trying to portray him as a front line battlefield commander which he wasnt is to do him a grave disservice. His truly exceptional talent was to conduct an enormously complex orchestra full of more experienced people with their own opinions. The success of the whole enterprise reflects how good he was as supreme commander!
Col. John Antal (U.S. Army retired) is a superb speaker and his knowledge of Eisenhower's leadership is stellar. My only complaint is that the show wasn't longer!
Watching your channel is like comfort food with today's current events. I've liked Col. Antal since I first heard of him from Brothers in Arms Xbox game on 101st in Normand, which he was involved with. Best historical shooter game ever made in my opinion. Even taught a little history.
Very interesting discussion on Ike’s leadership style
I was looking forward to this show and wasn’t disappointed! Yet another book to add to my collection. I think it’s time for a larger bookshelf 🤷🏽♀️
This is not only good “leadership” advice but advice on how to be a decent, honest, everyday human being. Excellent episode! I walked away with more than a few lessons learned.
Fabulous way to end Leadership Week, John's definition of leadership and how it applied to Ike was spot on. Paul I understand your point that West Point didn't create Ike because everyone who graduated from West Point didn't become an Ike. What West Point did was give Ike the tools, drive and discipline to harness his own abilities to produce the maximum outcome. What John did not mention that I think is important was how Ike embodied the words that reside on the West Point crest in everything he did. DUTY, HONOR, COUNTRY.
Great show again. Eisenhower seems at the time, and in retrospect uniquely talented to be placed as Supreme Allied Commander for the Normandy invasion.
There are nearly 500 views now. There were about 80 of us watching live. Quite an appealing episode. The value of watching live is that you get to join the live chat amongst the historians, enthusiasts and fans who are watching live. This episode generated quite a lively chat.
I liked the point Paul chased down -- you don't really learn ALL of the leadership attributes from West Point. There are other skills, molded from other forms, other backgrounds. What were Eisenhower's other sources, other form molds, of leadership skills?
There are as many opinions of Eisenhower's leadership as there are definitions of leadership. I picked up some real insights from the live chat also.
Most agreed that, wherever Eisenhower's leadership was formed and polished, he was probably the best leader of a diverse and even testy coalition, with the critical motivational and people skills needed in that role.
A thoroughly enjoyable discussion, on- and off-screen.
Being a bit sarcastic, yet truthful, Eisenhower learned a whole bunch of things NOT to do from his time under McArthur.
@@CFarnwideDo you know about the Army cross country expedition by automobile? There were two of them and Ike led them both. Talk about a learning experience! There were about 500 miles of paved roads in the whole country. Some places there weren't any roads at all. I think the first time they took about 3 months.
Such a great show. Very interesting to dissect his personality and explain why he was such a great leader and the right man at the right time. Who does not love Eisenhower? You do need a team of Eisenhower's, that won't work but you do need a leader like an Eisenhower to make such a diverse team work. As a social psychologist I find him really fascinating!
absolute class .... first rate . fine work my man !
Ike was certainly a gift to the Good Guys (Allies). Paul - Your examination of people and events of WWII is superb! You're a damn fine interviewer who consistently gets the most out of your impressive guests. I appreciate these videos so much.
Thanks for the nice words
This is a great video, I am glad they describe at leingh
the invasion. Yes, "Ike" was the key as a great comander, Thank you for the interview, jv
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Great show. Alexander leadership for comparison?
I'd have done whatever I could for my officers that would talk to me like he was concerned over my well being, used my name when speaking with me etc. It may have been lip service, but it made me believe he wouldn't just throw my life away and not care about it.
Excellent
Love this!
Been around a few (not many and not for a long period) lieutenant generals/generals and one thing that struck me was how most don't seem all that interested in drawing lines on a map (exception: General Louis Menetry). Not saying this is "good" or "bad", just an observation. Certainly, some great generals stayed up late at night with a compass and a ruler, personally plotting the route of their next move. But at that level, a lot of it gets left to the staff and the commander's job is to approve or disapprove.
Eisenhower's ex office space in London is featured in After the battle magazine no.186, unfortunately it is now a £36 million apartment!
Mr Antal’s style is not my cup of tea which is not to say it’s not effective or attractive to the majority. Effective leadership is I think amoral. One can argue that people like Stalin or Hitler were high in leadership skills but were essentially evil. Character is an admirable thing and if one also has leadership skills then the direction of their leadership will benefit their followers. Half of the United States (I might assume Mr. Antal is among them) would currently assert that Donald Trump is the leader the country needs but Mr. Trump’s character is questionable at best. I happen to agree that Eisenhower combined high level leadership with high level character. I also think that Eisenhower is more than just administratively and politically skilled. He also has an excellent grasp of the tactical and strategic aspects of the ETO.
I think there are certain things that are intangible, things that you are born with.
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Eisenhower did a good job in WW2 by letting those with the talent do their job, though not always giving them the credit. It should be noted that Eisenhower as President of the United States completely botched the situation in the Middle East in 1956. The British, French and Israelis saw the danger in Nasser and acted, the Suez Crisis. Eisenhower forced the allies to withdraw hoping to curry favor with the Arabs. It totally backfired when Nasser gave all the credit to Khrushchev and put almost the entire Middle East into the Soviet camp for the next 30 years, indeed Syria is still in the Russian camp.
I think that using the Paratroopers to secure those brodges was a mistake. I think it would have been a much smarter use of their talents to attack the Rhine Bridges. Securing the central offensive line of movement.
Are you talking about Varsity?
@@WW2TVMarket Garden. Probably.
No mention of Ike’s time in the 1920s in Panama under Fox Conner?
There's only so much that can be said on one hour
President Grant, General Grant is another example of a person who reached the Highest spot in U.S. politics. There's just a whole lot of bosh and trash surrounding Grant and it can be difficult to sort through all that to see the man himself.
To not mention growing up with 4 brothers in a crackerjack box house and Fox conner's mentorship is lacking in this presentation.
In your opinion perhaps
Does this guy assume that everyone who is interested in History is a private entrepreneur..?
Not just business, Colonel Antal has used these Leadership principles teaching with the US Army and as Special Assistant to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.
nae democracy in Scotland ,....... yet
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Sigh, there's not a single past Republican President who could gain the nomination in today's environment.
Well okay, Trump the orange lump, is very likely to get the Reputation nomation.