The thing about joke stuff being added to games is that they're usually fine. But with how deepwoken is, you can actually make a joke item useful due to it's building mechanic. You can specifically make the joke option actually viable by building for and around it, to allow it to be able to compete with meta builds (thanks to shrine of order and how broken it is). Hubris should not be relegated to being useless, deleting something from the game is an option. There's nothing lost to it other than the model and the scripts for the weapon. I get that someone worked their ass off for this, but sometimes even music artists scratch their work and start from the beginning. There are legitimately a lot of stuff they should get rid of which they didn't. Don't even say "oh, just rework it!" because the point of it being a joke weapon is lost, and it actually becomes something decent. Edit: Adding on to content deletion being fine, and that reworking should not be done along with nerfing it to the ground, is that no matter how useless something may seem, someone is going to genuinely find a work around (they always do) and make it useful again. It's going to be a constant back and forth between the developers and the community. The playerbase finds something stupid, and the community is in an outrage, demanding a nerf. The nerf comes, and then somehow someway, someone finds another way to make the useless weapon fucking work again. Games should not be afraid to just delete content from their game if it proves to be toxic to both sides, the playerbase and the people working on it. There is no way in hell you can tell me that this constant back and forth, ultimately being fruitless, is fun for both the players and the dev team.
maybe a good nerf for hivelord would be to nerf the posture dmg maybe?? or nerf uppercut swing speed... that would be good fixes tbh, but jetstriker rework is so ridiculous that the mixups are still way too ode idk
im ngl i did try to defend assasinations getting nerfed but i had no idea they could assassinate someone else and it would still do aoe dmg thats so ode 🤣🤣
if u assassinate someone in combat it does 40% less damage and lightning strike and bolt piercer got gutted a while ago both of the mantras range got gutted to like 1/10th of its old range but in numbers its still good and 100% in ganks at least one person will go one of these builds but airstrike and trackstar and support all need nerfs and shadow vortex stormcage gravity field every mantra just needs a dmg nerf and they need to add m1s back into the meta but pretty much everything you said is right hivelords hubris uppercut into jetstriker m1 is like true sometimes and does like a bar or 2 depending if you have a lot of hp or phy
dude the problem with overworld ganks is that if your a solo and you dont have the void wlaker origin YOU CANT EVEN FIGHT BACK THEY ALWAYS LEAVE ME WHEN I SPIN BACK ,THEY ALWAYS LEAVE THE SERVER LIKE THEIR FATHER FIGURE OR THEY SOMEWHERE I DONT EVEN KNOW, THEIRS NO FUN TO THIS ITS HELLA ANOYING.
Hiveslord has a high requirement literally half your build is your weapon requirement also it’s really easy to parry unless they are actually skilled and use mix ups
what if... vow of mastery was locked to only saltchemist and/or linkstrider? i feel like that would make it a little more bearable being that they wouldnt be able to run away for free... but for the lightning problem idk. like storm cage is so ode, emotion wave crowd control, lightning stream w static ace so its an unavoidable pull back move idk... they just gotta retune lightning fr cz ts runs overworld lmao
Crying about hive lord is crazy work it’s a big slow ass heavy weaned it’s super easy to parry I’ve lost to mabey 1 hive lord outta MANY it’s not that deep js gottta get better
I js listened to the whole video you gotta js be ass crying ab silent heart and twisted puppets unless it’s YsL twisted puppets is ass and silent heart only thing they do is party trade no mix ups or combos it’s not hard to fight
@@Pawdapatrol for a reason BECAUSE THEY CANT USE MANTRAS like is sum wrong up there they have ZERO skills they can’t put you in a mix up all you gotta do is be good at partying it’s not hard at all
@carmelookonkwo3895 Silent heart does have mix ups what is bro talking about. It's second strongest oath, silent heart is not weak at all and it is hard to fight on certain builds.
@@Pawdapatrol what mix up are you gettin hit wit on silent heart if you ever got hit with a mixup on silent heart they either some of the best in the world or true simple answer is you js as
@@carmelookonkwo3895 cuz air swinging to roll crit to Manni Katty isn't a thing, cuz baiting your enemy roll to many Katty doesn't exist, cuz air swing to ankle cutter to crit doesn't exist. Shattered katana has one of the best mix ups with sh too
silentheart is actually so cancerous bro u get 70-80 elm dmg resistance that no one can do anything abt and a massive dmg buff pls js remove it/gut it while waiting for the rework hivelords needs a posture dmg nerf or to just not be able to be enchanted linkstriders should have to fight ppl in order to put links on, in exchange their links are harder to be broken it shouldn't just be that a 2v1 against a linkstrider is unwinnable l strike and bolt piercer should cancel on parry jetstriker needs to have its mobility w the rolls and the climb gutted idc that its the agi oath assassination should just not work in pvp theres not a single arguement you can make for it spark swap needs a rework linkstrider also should be given a charisma requirement so u can js go any type of build u want and slap linkstrider on it also salt chemist should be given a rework where it has mantras that apply the potion effects instead of js being the unkillable oath i know theres more stuff but like overworld ganks are so cooked lol
ye, they don't wanna fix the overworld cheese for some reason arch is afraid of nerfing a lot of stuff in 1 patch which is stupid and both rag and arch play ice/shadow so they'll never get nerfed either overworlds just cooked n its whatever atp
@@wearelivingart4584 bro hit 1.1k elo and forgot how to act slh plagues high elo chime, massive dmg output while being border line unkillable (80 elm resist) w out abusing storm cheese it counters every single build in the game that uses mantras bc of how much mantra resist it gets. its abused on weps where you can get a ton of m1s in v corny methods (light weps + parry macros, whaling knife crit (thank god they fixed this), cthread, jus karita) im p sure US east has less ppl abusing it cs i haven seen it as much but yeah its still incredibly busted
@@fivespade3036 no one cares about how things interact in your elo. chime discord is locked to top 50s and they dont take recommendations from randoms for a reason. Slh doesnt "plague" high elo, and even if it did it would be justified as the literal 1s oath.
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It’s pretty much impossible to farm Primadon now
yeah cuz im always to to jump yo dum ahh farmers 😂
The thing about joke stuff being added to games is that they're usually fine. But with how deepwoken is, you can actually make a joke item useful due to it's building mechanic. You can specifically make the joke option actually viable by building for and around it, to allow it to be able to compete with meta builds (thanks to shrine of order and how broken it is).
Hubris should not be relegated to being useless, deleting something from the game is an option. There's nothing lost to it other than the model and the scripts for the weapon. I get that someone worked their ass off for this, but sometimes even music artists scratch their work and start from the beginning. There are legitimately a lot of stuff they should get rid of which they didn't. Don't even say "oh, just rework it!" because the point of it being a joke weapon is lost, and it actually becomes something decent.
Edit:
Adding on to content deletion being fine, and that reworking should not be done along with nerfing it to the ground, is that no matter how useless something may seem, someone is going to genuinely find a work around (they always do) and make it useful again. It's going to be a constant back and forth between the developers and the community. The playerbase finds something stupid, and the community is in an outrage, demanding a nerf. The nerf comes, and then somehow someway, someone finds another way to make the useless weapon fucking work again.
Games should not be afraid to just delete content from their game if it proves to be toxic to both sides, the playerbase and the people working on it. There is no way in hell you can tell me that this constant back and forth, ultimately being fruitless, is fun for both the players and the dev team.
maybe a good nerf for hivelord would be to nerf the posture dmg maybe?? or nerf uppercut swing speed... that would be good fixes tbh, but jetstriker rework is so ridiculous that the mixups are still way too ode idk
I really hope this reaches the devs for deepwoken!
wait 😯 Big fan 😯
I would even go as far as saying that with the new flame buffs and all the op techs silentheart itself is a small problem
whats wrong woth twisted puppets?
really hit the nail on the head with this one 🔥
im ngl i did try to defend assasinations getting nerfed but i had no idea they could assassinate someone else and it would still do aoe dmg thats so ode 🤣🤣
They're mad annoying in ganks
if u assassinate someone in combat it does 40% less damage and lightning strike and bolt piercer got gutted a while ago both of the mantras range got gutted to like 1/10th of its old range but in numbers its still good and 100% in ganks at least one person will go one of these builds but airstrike and trackstar and support all need nerfs and shadow vortex stormcage gravity field every mantra just needs a dmg nerf and they need to add m1s back into the meta but pretty much everything you said is right hivelords hubris uppercut into jetstriker m1 is like true sometimes and does like a bar or 2 depending if you have a lot of hp or phy
My whole guild except one quitted deepwoken because of this
Get this man on the testing team NOWW
W video the end got me
video felt genuine and spoke truth, good shit
fye video brudda
dude the problem with overworld ganks is that if your a solo and you dont have the void wlaker origin YOU CANT EVEN FIGHT BACK THEY ALWAYS LEAVE ME WHEN I SPIN BACK ,THEY ALWAYS LEAVE THE SERVER LIKE THEIR FATHER FIGURE OR THEY SOMEWHERE I DONT EVEN KNOW, THEIRS NO FUN TO THIS ITS HELLA ANOYING.
Thats why me and my whole guild (except 1) quitted deepwoken
Assassination is already garbage, dont kill it😢
If you expect the devs to change shit, you're wrong. We can't have shit in deepwoken 🙏
realest shit i ever heard
Very fun i turn 3v4 into 3v10
bet
Hiveslord has a high requirement literally half your build is your weapon requirement also it’s really easy to parry unless they are actually skilled and use mix ups
too much truth for one video
man i woke up and my entire build was in shambles what the heck do i do now?
Make a new build?
now you just got banned
LOL
Not gone cap u said alot of good stuff but alot or this just sound like coping
u go 1v10 chapter and see what i mean
what if... vow of mastery was locked to only saltchemist and/or linkstrider? i feel like that would make it a little more bearable being that they wouldnt be able to run away for free... but for the lightning problem idk. like storm cage is so ode, emotion wave crowd control, lightning stream w static ace so its an unavoidable pull back move idk... they just gotta retune lightning fr cz ts runs overworld lmao
No
Hell no
Crying about hive lord is crazy work it’s a big slow ass heavy weaned it’s super easy to parry I’ve lost to mabey 1 hive lord outta MANY it’s not that deep js gottta get better
on god bruh the people that lose to hivelord are the people that cant react
@@tohsak😂 jet hivelord
@@vecayz i dont be losing to hivelords either so
@@tohsak u haven’t versed a cheese one
@@vecayz i have its not that hard its pretty easy if you know what theyre gonna do
heh chapter victim
I js listened to the whole video you gotta js be ass crying ab silent heart and twisted puppets unless it’s YsL twisted puppets is ass and silent heart only thing they do is party trade no mix ups or combos it’s not hard to fight
Cuh does not know silent heart is second strongest oath!?!?!
@@Pawdapatrol for a reason BECAUSE THEY CANT USE MANTRAS like is sum wrong up there they have ZERO skills they can’t put you in a mix up all you gotta do is be good at partying it’s not hard at all
@carmelookonkwo3895 Silent heart does have mix ups what is bro talking about. It's second strongest oath, silent heart is not weak at all and it is hard to fight on certain builds.
@@Pawdapatrol what mix up are you gettin hit wit on silent heart if you ever got hit with a mixup on silent heart they either some of the best in the world or true simple answer is you js as
@@carmelookonkwo3895 cuz air swinging to roll crit to Manni Katty isn't a thing, cuz baiting your enemy roll to many Katty doesn't exist, cuz air swing to ankle cutter to crit doesn't exist. Shattered katana has one of the best mix ups with sh too
frick hivelord
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up 20 bands boy 🤑
just dont play deepwoken
silentheart is actually so cancerous bro u get 70-80 elm dmg resistance that no one can do anything abt and a massive dmg buff pls js remove it/gut it while waiting for the rework
hivelords needs a posture dmg nerf or to just not be able to be enchanted
linkstriders should have to fight ppl in order to put links on, in exchange their links are harder to be broken it shouldn't just be that a 2v1 against a linkstrider is unwinnable
l strike and bolt piercer should cancel on parry
jetstriker needs to have its mobility w the rolls and the climb gutted idc that its the agi oath
assassination should just not work in pvp theres not a single arguement you can make for it
spark swap needs a rework
linkstrider also should be given a charisma requirement so u can js go any type of build u want and slap linkstrider on it
also salt chemist should be given a rework where it has mantras that apply the potion effects instead of js being the unkillable oath
i know theres more stuff but like overworld ganks are so cooked lol
ye, they don't wanna fix the overworld cheese for some reason
arch is afraid of nerfing a lot of stuff in 1 patch which is stupid
and both rag and arch play ice/shadow so they'll never get nerfed either
overworlds just cooked n its whatever atp
if ur still complaining abt silentheart ur 1000 elo max
@@wearelivingart4584 bro hit 1.1k elo and forgot how to act
slh plagues high elo chime, massive dmg output while being border line unkillable (80 elm resist) w out abusing storm cheese it counters every single build in the game that uses mantras bc of how much mantra resist it gets. its abused on weps where you can get a ton of m1s in v corny methods (light weps + parry macros, whaling knife crit (thank god they fixed this), cthread, jus karita) im p sure US east has less ppl abusing it cs i haven seen it as much but yeah its still incredibly busted
@@fivespade3036 no one cares about how things interact in your elo. chime discord is locked to top 50s and they dont take recommendations from randoms for a reason. Slh doesnt "plague" high elo, and even if it did it would be justified as the literal 1s oath.
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