This is how I perform static timing on my CB77. It is a good idea however to confirm everything afterwards with a dynamic timing light to confirm that the advance mechanism is working properly. If you don't have one though, just doing a static timing adjustment as described here will result in a well running engine.
I agree. This shows a well done static timing but a timing light will allow you to get it even closer. (They're not very expensive.:-) A timing light will also allow you to check the timing advance. This is important because if the timing is advanced only a few degrees, the engine can overheat or even melt a hole in the piston under sustained highway speeds or aggressive riding.
Any way to know when the points are completely open other than by eyeball? Mark on the end of the cam to line up with the rubber block, etc. my old eyes don’t see that small a gap very well anymore!
@@timmckinnney2722 I guess you could reference off of the notch in the end of the camshaft assuming your points weren't too far off. I can't remember off the top of my head where the notch should be in relation to the point's open position. One low-tech option would be to take a piece of paper and stick it between the contacts and then rotate the crank until the piece of paper comes loose. That would at least get you in the ballpark and rotating a bit further would get you to their widest open position. To be honest, I've started keeping a magnifying class near buy for detail work like soldering so that might not be a bad idea in this case either.
What about timing a honda xl 350 single , does there need to be a battery in the bike to do this also how do. I know I'm on the compresion stroke ? Thx
I'm not familiar with the XL350. The process should be similar, set the gap, then adjust points plate position to set the timing but I would highly recommend referring to a manual for the exact specs and procedure. As for the compression stroke, the 2 general methods are to pull the spark plug and put your finger over the spark plug hole then turn the engine over via the bolt on the alternator until you feel pressure build up. Another method would be to position the crank, then remove the valve tappet covers and check the rockers. They should both be loose (intake and exhaust valves closed) on the compression stroke. Again, I highly recommend tracking down a manual.
@@michaelsams450 Michael - Just stumbled across you CB 77 Super Hawk Restoration. I need to start from the beginning when I have the time, but in the meantime, can you tell me what silver you used on the painted parts? Your videos are better than T.V.
@@garycubbal1094 I purchased the side covers "refurbished" on eBay so I can't say for sure what paint was used on them. I paint the engine crankcase cover using Honda's "Cloud Silver" spray paint. Honda part number 08707-NH35M. It can be purchased online in 12oz aerosol cans. It's close to the original OEM paint but a touch darker than some of the NOS painted parts I have in my collection. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
@@michaelsams450 Thanks for that tip. I will check it out. I heard you mention Paul's Chrome. I have been doing business with for years, but not lately. Wild Bill & I have become good friends.
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Thanks for posting this segment Michael. I referred to it to fine tune my CL77 today.
One of the best DIY videos I have ever seen! How about one on the cam chain adjustment?
Thanks, I appreciate that. I'll be sure to record the cam chain and valve adjustment steps when I do the post-break-in tune-up. Thanks for watching.
Absolutely brilliant i have learnt such alot i hope same settings on my CB72
I'm glad you found it helpful. Thanks for watching.
Awesome video thanks so much for this
Glad it helped. Thanks for watching
Great vid. Nice to have this for future reference.
thanks for the vid.....makes it all very simple
Good job!
This is how I perform static timing on my CB77. It is a good idea however to confirm everything afterwards with a dynamic timing light to confirm that the advance mechanism is working properly. If you don't have one though, just doing a static timing adjustment as described here will result in a well running engine.
Valid point. Thanks for watching.
I agree. This shows a well done static timing but a timing light will allow you to get it even closer. (They're not very expensive.:-) A timing light will also allow you to check the timing advance. This is important because if the timing is advanced only a few degrees, the engine can overheat or even melt a hole in the piston under sustained highway speeds or aggressive riding.
Any way to know when the points are completely open other than by eyeball? Mark on the end of the cam to line up with the rubber block, etc. my old eyes don’t see that small a gap very well anymore!
For setting the initial gap or for setting the timing?
@@michaelsams450 Initial gap.
@@timmckinnney2722 I guess you could reference off of the notch in the end of the camshaft assuming your points weren't too far off. I can't remember off the top of my head where the notch should be in relation to the point's open position.
One low-tech option would be to take a piece of paper and stick it between the contacts and then rotate the crank until the piece of paper comes loose. That would at least get you in the ballpark and rotating a bit further would get you to their widest open position.
To be honest, I've started keeping a magnifying class near buy for detail work like soldering so that might not be a bad idea in this case either.
@@michaelsams450 Thanks. It’s great getting old! 😂
What about timing a honda xl 350 single , does there need to be a battery in the bike to do this also how do. I know I'm on the compresion stroke ? Thx
I'm not familiar with the XL350. The process should be similar, set the gap, then adjust points plate position to set the timing but I would highly recommend referring to a manual for the exact specs and procedure. As for the compression stroke, the 2 general methods are to pull the spark plug and put your finger over the spark plug hole then turn the engine over via the bolt on the alternator until you feel pressure build up. Another method would be to position the crank, then remove the valve tappet covers and check the rockers. They should both be loose (intake and exhaust valves closed) on the compression stroke. Again, I highly recommend tracking down a manual.
@@michaelsams450 Michael - Just stumbled across you CB 77 Super Hawk Restoration. I need to start from the beginning when I have the time, but in the meantime, can you tell me what silver you used on the painted parts? Your videos are better than T.V.
@@garycubbal1094 I purchased the side covers "refurbished" on eBay so I can't say for sure what paint was used on them. I paint the engine crankcase cover using Honda's "Cloud Silver" spray paint. Honda part number 08707-NH35M. It can be purchased online in 12oz aerosol cans. It's close to the original OEM paint but a touch darker than some of the NOS painted parts I have in my collection. Hope that helps. Thanks for watching.
@@michaelsams450 Thanks for that tip. I will check it out. I heard you mention Paul's Chrome. I have been doing business with for years, but not lately. Wild Bill & I have become good friends.