Well that was absolutely wonderful. Your detective work is amazing as that was the exact spot. You even filmed the exact boulder where my history teacher (Who was the double of Yoffy from Fingerbobs) offered his certain opinion of how the Romans attempted to break up the boulders but were defeated by the now famous 'Britannic boulder of resistance'. As schoolkids we all sat turning blue with the cold, clutching our cheese sandwiches, hoping to drink our orange juice before it froze whilst our teacher attempted to demonstrate (in vain) how the Roman engineers went about rock breaking. We were forced up there in the pouring rain, sat soaking wet in howling wind and trekked back to the hostel in sleet ...and yet it's one of the best memories of my childhood because it was an adventure. Kids were also tougher in the 70's. I love the idea the Romans (who wrote the history) blamed the British workforce for the boulders victory. As kids, all rugged up in winter attire, yet still numb due to the elements, I looked up at the black clouds rolling in while our intrepid history teacher tried to ram a wedge into the rock and I thought of a third reason why the boulders won...The Romans simply ran back to their barracks before they froze their Denarius off, leaving the hardier Brit workforce to brew up a cuppa and knock off early for the day. Thank you so very much for making this magnificent vid Mr WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd ...Kind regards, Phil.
Phew! What a relief. Imagine how embarrassing it would have been if I had got that wrong! Love your account of that school trip from all those years ago. I'll work out how to pin your comment to the top. Yes, us kids of the 70s were a hardy lot and yes, all teachers looked like that! May I also commend you on your memory too! It's either really good, or the field trip was so terrible, it's seared upon your mind! WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd'll Fix it! I better not say that...
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd I think it's a mix of both...The school trip was generally like the opening scene from Bridge over the river Kwai with teachers marching us up hills and over bogs demanding we climb rocks ect...but a much, much colder version set in Northumberland rather than Burma. However, I loved the memory of seeing the 'Britannia boulder of resistance' and was marveled by the fact that despite the harsh weather up there the notches cut into the boulders by Romans still existed almost 2,000 years later. It's what sparked my lifelong love of history. So it's a mix...the horrors of the forced yomp, combined with the magic of seeing a forever unknown Roman engineer in distant history failed efforts to simply get a mundane job done (splitting a boulder) that you could actually reach out and touch. It wasn't in a museum under glass..it felt like a connection to that disgruntled engineer. But, being 7 years old at the time I could not for the life of me remember where it was located. It brought back so many forgotten memories simply to see the location 49 years later. I can't thank you enough for your hard work in making this vid and the jogging of my childhood memories. I do hope other fans of your wonderful work post more half remembered school trips to historic sites ...Inspector WC21 will surely track the culprit down.
@@philcollinson328it’s great reading your recollections and I’m so pleased I was able to take you back there. I agree 100% - museums are fine, but finding survivals like this in the landscape is what really lights my fire!
I do not claim to know why, but I was one of a group of four undergraduate school chums who cycled up the Hardknott pass in 1979. A vivid memory, the derailleur gears cluncking and grinding on our ascent, engaging the tiny granny cog on the chain ring, a cog you always boasted you'd never need !
I love that you incorporated a childhood memory into the video. Another brilliantly funny and yet factual video. Thanks for sharing. And thank you Phil for the memory.
Brilliant stuff as usual. Fascinating from beginning to end. If only you were my history teacher back in the 60’s and 70’s. I have never been so interested hearing about a pile of stones in a ditch. You and Tweedy Outdoors have opened my eyes to the archeology of the byways on my own doorstep. Thank you sir. 👏👏👍😀
Thank you kindly, Andrew. It is so rewarding to get feedback like this. I definitely made the wrong career choice! Glad you enjoyed this story - it really is one of the most interesting I've looked into - and to track down a memory for a subscriber was a real joy!
The best dressed hiker I've ever seen! I remember visiting this road over 20 years ago and a number of 50+ year old bikers were doing a length of Britain ride for charity. A few Harleys came a cropper on one particular corner and needed assistance to get back on their motor cycles. Thanks for the happy memories.
Thank you - very gracious of you! Glad the video brought back memories. Bikes and cars seem to have been coming unstuck there for years! I saw a car stuck on the edge of the road on the way up there.
That looks exactly like the corner east of Teppermoor farm where my father lived in the 50's/60's just across from Mythraeum temple and Brocolitia Fort. I've walked on the corner with my father looking at the area and we seen the rocks with holes/slots in as well. He used to work the land there on the farm and he also told me he'd been told they found it too hard to cut through so diverted. Maybe true or maybe just speculation passed down through generation to generation with no solid facts, who knows but great vlog anyway, thank you 😀👍
Thank you - I really love it when the videos get a response like this from viewers with a personal connection to the location. It’s hard to fathom that they just gave up here and lived with an imperfect ditch for over 300 years, but what else can we conclude from this spectacular site? Lovely to hear your memories. Thank you!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd I'm no historian or geologist so don't have the answer but maybe it was a simple case of, the direction there were going to where they planned to end had to divert at some point and it was simply just here. You have mentioned the question before, why did the Vallum swap sides but I have a "Chicken n egg" question. Which came first, the Wall, Vallum or Ditch? I don't know the answer 😀
Really interesting questions. It is now generally accepted that the Vallum came after the wall. Here, they presumably had to drive it through the same bedrock. The wall and wall ditch are contemporary. So they manned the wall there, looking down on that messy ditch, for over 3 centuries! The other interesting thing about the wall at Limestone Corner is the way they diverted it to ride over the Whin Sill. If you look at the map, you’ll see this odd deviation quite clearly.
Wow, Darren, this one is really taking off in just two days - and very deservedly so! Fantastic research and presentation! And you face while driving up the pass is priceless!
Thank you Matt! Yes another one that seems to have hit a sweet point! As we’ve discussed before, the algorithm is a thing of mystery… That face was genuine! Terrifying!
Fantastic - the excitement was certainly building here at Tweedy Towers the moment you mentioned the Roman parade ground and I had a distinct feeling I knew what was coming! Hilarious - 35 quid well spent in my opinion! Looks like you actually had some nice weather for a change (well for the first half of the, ahem, day), very pleased to see that. That driving sequence worked really well I thought, something very different for the channel. Good bit of self censorship on the theme tune of that probably best forgotten TV show of our childhood! I thought I was going off wild camping but that rather fine looking ditch towards the end of the video stirred something inside me...
Thank you Tweedy. I am really pleased the marching centurions didn’t disappoint! You were absolutely at the front of my mind when I spent that £35! Glad you enjoyed my “Top Gear” moment! If it proves popular, I may have to go back and do both the passes, both ways! I do quite like the idea of “fixing it” for subscribers, but I can’t come up with a name that isn’t likely to get me banned from RUclips! Oh yes, what a ditch to wild camp in! Camping where the Romans gave up. I was going to suggest a summer camp there, but then I remembered - they don’t do summer in Northumberland!
Your drive up the road to the pass has reminded me of the horror of driving a minibus in July last year up to the Honister Pass. It wasn’t too bad, unless something was coming the other way. First gear got a lot of use.
Loved this vidd! I've got fab memories of driving over Hardknott pass with my two over excited young sons and late hubby in th noughties. Sons obviously paraded around the fort well wrapped up! Drive not difficult on a fine day at a reasonable speed. I'd love to go back. Looking forward to the next
Beautiful scenery, I assume the fly-by was complimentary and not another "over-1000 subscribers" perk? Congratulations again. Every time I see Hardnott I get "Its a hard-knock life" from Annie running through my head I think because it probably was a hard-knock life up there in the winter. Well explained, well shot thank you.
Thanks Chris! Yes, it must have been hard up there, but they did have a bathhouse with underfloor heating - that must have been very welcome! Thanks for the lovely feedback. With the two locations, this was quite an undertaking, and I'm glad the landscape has come across well.
Excellent that Fixed it for me for my Roman Fix and without any of the unpleasant 70s violation to my juvenile privies. Plus a load more locations to wander around with my metal detector probably all been done to death but I convince myself that previous more astute detectorists missed something. Right time to dig my Gary Glitter LP out and find my Jim'll Fix It badge on second thoughts noooooooooooooooooo !!!!!
To prove this I expect platform shoes for your next ramble. Come On Come On Come On I say!! Ok that's enough of the lame GG puns.@WC21UKProductionsLtd
Lot's of interesting questions in the comments, but what I really want to know is where fo you get your wonderful clothing from? Everything looks bespoke, not a hint of the charity shop to be seen. Marvellous! I'm looking forward to more collabs with Tweedy, maybe a pub crawl around the London City wall?
Thank you - that’s very nice of you to say! A lot of my clothes have been made for me over the years. I struggle to get what I want off the peg. It’s expensive, but they last. Both of the jackets in this one are over 10 years old. The plus fours are the newest additions - within the last year - from the excellent, Spencer’s Trousers in Huddersfield!
I took my Australian wife-to-be to Limestone Corner back in 2002. She was very impressed - the northernmost point in the Roman Empire and they couldn't manage to dig a ditch properly. When you think of all the great Roman engineering achievements, it is a bit of an eye opener. Huzzah for the great Britannic boulder of resistance! Ditch unfinished due to hardness of rock, as the OS map says.
Thank you! I know, it’s really weird isn’t it? Would love to know the story as to what happened there! Hope the video brought back memories and thank you for watching.
Thank you very much. Phil is delighted to have been reunited with his memories! I think you may call him Phil. I was relieved that we got it right. It would have been mortifying if he’d have said, “no, it wasn’t that”.
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd Yes guys, I prefer Phil...My dear octogenarian mum is the only person who refers to me as Philip if I'm in trouble with her...If she called me Mr Collinson, I'd run...even to this day 🤣.
Thanks. We'll have to wait for Mr. Collinson to see if I got it right - I think he's on the other side of the world. To me, the Fingerbobs chap is the definitive 70s's man!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd You were right on the money...Yes born, bred and lived 40 years up in the north east of England, I've now lived in the very most southern region of Tasmania for the last 16 years with my dear Aussie wife as it's the only region of Australia where I'd not melt.
@@philcollinson328 that's great! I hope it didn't make you homesick. Probably cemented your decision to move to Tasmania as the right one! Boy was it cold up there!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd Good to get in there early! Great video, I have fond memories of the Hardknott Pass, especially one with my other stalling halfway up in a Vauxhall Nova and another time I was driving for the 3 Peaks Challenge and I had people on board being sick!
Thanks Matthew! Really appreciate you taking time to answer all my questions today! Hope you enjoy the channel and will check yours out later when I get home.
@StanandOllie1937 I...I am a huge fan of Oliver and Hardy ..I bought the entire DVD boxset of their work last year ...Don't tell my wife...it wasn't cheap 🤣. I also loved their 2018 tribute movie starring Coogan and Reilly..from memory. I'll go check it out.
@@philcollinson328 It's a great movie but definitely not factually correct as 90% of it was fiction. Outstanding performances by the lead roles though.
Given how well dressed Mr WC21 and Tweedy dress ....I hope they NEVER invite me to join one of their vids Jane...Compo is hardly a compliment, no matter how much amusement it'd give you 😂..Hedley surpasses himself in that role.
Hard Knott is a beautiful corner of Britain. I remember (aged 5 to 7)school trips on Laal Ratty railway in the valley below. Got to the fort a few years later. Also remember school trip to Housteads fort on Hadrians Wall . Great video, keep at it!
Thank you very much and I’m glad the video reminded your school trips. I’d like to do a video on that railway line - just need to think up a reason for it!
Wonderful Housteads is the one part of my school school excursion I remember very well, given my parents had taken me there often on summer days out... Limestone Corner was a once only experience ...And I had completely forgotten where it was ..Time Detective Mr WC21 of the Yard solved the case however.
Just discovered your site,spot on ,good narration and sartorial style.I wander around these Roman sites,mainly in old landrovers trying to stimulate the old grey cells,works every time,a good hobby for old timers.
Hi David and welcome. You can’t beat getting out to these sort of places. I hope you enjoy the content here and if there are any sites you think we should look at, don’t hesitate to let us know.
I can't resist retorting the '''age thing''🤣...Mr WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd is a matter of months younger than me ...I'm sure they were tears of emotion...hahaha.
After living under Whiteleaf cross for 45 yeas , I had never heard of the Bledlow cross thats just 10min drive away. I have also hiked past it loads of times without knowing of its existence. Fascinating video thanks a lot..
Cheers. It has been like a secret, hiding for years. It was good to get to see it as it starts to reemerge and hopefully it’ll be shining white again at some stage.
Le Celtic Resistance. Amazing that a group of soldiers from Italy made their way that far north! Must have been enthusiastic sheep farmers as that is some good farming country. Plus they must have liked Fish n Chips which would have been far superior to their spagetti and cheese 🧀. Good history thanks . Despite my amateur attempt at humour. Seriously fascinating 🇬🇧 🇳🇿
Thanks David. That first cohort of Dalmatians were actually from Croatia, would you believe! They must have felt like they’d drawn the short straw - being posted to that freezing and inhospitable place! But as you say, there was the fish and chips to make up for it!
There's the same situation on a bigger scale on the top of Croy Hill (Antonine Wall) really deep ditches, twelve feet deep in some places, leading up to the top of the hill and suddenly 'thud' it hits solid igneous bedrock. You can still see the chisel marks. Some officer obviously made an executive decision. 'Bugger it, just start again on the down slope', thirty foot later, over the brow of the hill, the ditch starts again.
Don't forget to buy Mr WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd a nice cup of English breakfast tea...Although he claims to prefer coffee these days. So buy the gent a coffee. 👍
Mr WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd... I have tried for a while to discover if you have a Facebook group for members of this wonderful place you've worked so hard to create ...If you have one, could you post a link sir? If not ...would you consider doing so?
Had to edit you tube .. I meant Facebook ....meh, youngsters being all high tech with their drones ect...I knew what I meant 🤣...Serious question however.
@@philcollinson328 no the channel doesn’t have a Facebook page, but it is on my list of tasks. I’ve been a bit reluctant, not really seeing what it adds, but I know all the large channels have socials!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd It would allow fans of your wonderful channel to chat and get to know each other more informally ...Also gives you a platform to announce up and coming vids as well as test the waters regards what they'd enjoy seeing you visit ...or (the mind boggles) hike up ....
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd It really just shows you ...Facebook is a mystery ....It's a combination of luck.. talent ....And you have talent in spades ....
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd had a poke about on the net...Ron Embleton 1930 - 1988. Definitely seen one of his pics of striking workers at the Limestone Corner site.
@@billykershaw2781oh that's great - I will have a look to see if I can find that. It's fascinating to think about them downing tools and the job never getting completed.
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd went to Piercebridge this afternoon, down to Aldbourough St. John, no I'm not paying a fiver, and across to Stanwick. St. John the Baptist Church is my favourite, coffin/ preparation one piece carved stone thing outside on the West side. Church has a 10th century cross, with Danelaw intentions to the left,just inside the doorway, the rest of the carvings in the porch are intriguing...and yes we had a walk along the wall. Kirkby Stephen church has a Loki stone, .......
@@billykershaw2781 I’m sure you had a good time. I’ve heard of the stone at Kirkby Stephen and have it earmarked for a future project. Aren’t we lucky to have all these antiquities!
Oh thank you - that’s really encouraging! Yes, I might need to look at the channel name. I’d be loathe to lose it - I love it for its obtuseness and pomposity!
The ditch is clearly unfinished, so my history teacher was probably correct, that they just gave up and it did not justify the time and effort or pressing duties elsewhere.
Yes, it certainly looks like that. Fascinating that they lived with it like that for over 300 years. Oh to know what the details of that story were! Thank you for watching and commenting.
Not quite the "northernmost" part of the empire... ther are forts at Inchtuthhill, and Ardoch, both in Perthshire. Ardoch is a fantastic grass-covered relic 2000 years old. (and cold as hell!)
Their route makes more sense than the one we use today! I guess they had to lug some carts over the pass too, but at least there was a hot bath waiting!
What was the point of adding two courses in the 60s? The wall seemed tall enough. Smoking banana peels no doubt. It was thoughtful of them to add the slates. Summer of Love and all.
@11:30 "Definitely the worst one in the UK." Not even close. You haven't driven from Kenmore to Amulree, or up Glen Lyon and up round the back of Ben Lawers, or shehallion. Drive along Loch Arkiag to Glen Dessarry, or over the path of Condie. There's five I can name off the top of my head, and I'll bet there's a dozen more. I'm sure that'll be the most difficult in England though.
We are amused, so much to unpack. Due to complete ignorance I drove over Hard Knott pass in the 1980s and was unfazed by it’s windy nature. This road is dead easy if you have driven in outback Australia. One could say “Bitumen road! Absolute luxury. Trying driving over waterlogged roads with pot holes which could swallow a whole four wheel truck.” The ancient Briton, would have replied in response to the comment from Roman writings “these Romans are f….ing crazy. Why build a fort in a place like Hard Knott pass.” You should be asking why build a ditch through a boulder outcrop. The Britannia boulder was stolen in the late 1980s. Someone accidentally pushed it down the hill. The era of lawlessness in the wilds of Northumbria continues after 2,000 years. I was surprised no-one stole the wheels of your vehicle were not stolen when you left to go to study the original Roman road. So as someone once quoted “What did the Romans do for us?”
Ha! Thank you Andrew! I know that pass is child's play by the "standards" of other countries, but it's terrifying for an English wuss like me! I didn't know about the boulder getting pushed down the hill! Still lawless there! Thanks for watching and go easy on those Australian roads - they sound terrifying!
Well it certainly looks like something got in the way of the Roman constructive process, I have a feeling it was more the worker than the obstruction personally ...but why just leave it like that, why not get some other more biddable workers to come and finish off what was probably the end of the unbiddable ones. Perhaps the work took long enough with Brits swinging the lead and generally harrassing the gaurds that the Romans actually moved out before it was finished. Fascinating anomoly in the middle of nowhere.
Thank you! Yes it really is a fascinating anomaly. As you say, why not get a new crew in to finish the job? They manned the wall there - looking down on that mess - for over 300 years and no one sorted it!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd lol thats a long time to think ...nah can't be bothered. Although 300 years worth of Scottish people watching them right back would be a powerful motivator to stay up on the wall out of immediate reach.
@@lynettecockburn332 thank goodness for that! I quite like the idea of taking subscribers back to places they half remember from years ago, but the "fixing it" thing is a problem!
Harry Enfield? lol...Mr WC21 is surely the late, great, Robin Bush's younger and far fitter brother🤣. Whilst Mr Bush was happy to settle and spend a day in a library, Mr WC21 hikes up death defying mountains in blizzards (worries me sometimes)... Where they both share a great talent is the ability to make history fascinating and fun for all ages with a wonderful salting of gentle humour and Tweed...The Tweed adds a lot to the content ...Ask @Tweedyoutdoors.
I'd never send a vid of me..This 56 year old Geordie, having lived feral in southern Tasmania was not the visual content you needed to reach 1,000 subs 6 months ago...never mind close to hitting the 5K a few months later approaching Christmas 🤣 ...Are you mad? ...never mind...🤣
Really, the Romans found it pointless ....not so much a defeat by the Scots ..given they didn't exist until the Irish (Vikings) defeated the Picts a few hundred years later ...The Romans saw no value in the Pictish lands, so drew a line over their empire ....It wasn't value for money ...
If the Romans had discovered a gold mine in Glasgow or a silver mine in Inverness they'd have invaded and stayed ......All they saw were hills, clouds and vexed Picts so didn't bother...The Irish invasion a few hundred years later sorted them out.
The Scots were in Ireland during the Roman occupation of Britain and the English didn't exist until after the Romans left when the Anglo Saxons came in from Germany so that statement is wrong.
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd So why start with a reference to the people that you ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS decimated, stole the lands from, drove us to the peripherals, and then kept attacking us for centuries? You probably think King Urthur was an Anglo-Saxon mongrel. That is why you hate the Irish so much. We beat you in 1922, drove you out after your occupation of 800 years, got rid of the childish, anti-democratic monarchy, and became the only adult political system in the Isles of PRYTTYNN.
Stop being such a drama queen - I can tell you for a fact that by the 1950s there were buses & tourist coaches going over Hardknott Pass on a regular basis yet YOU make out that it is traumatic to do the same in a modern Volvo? Maybe you can't drive very well?
I rode over HardKnott pass on my motorbike in the late 1980's ...The road was not great even then...Worse still, I got set upon by a Ram who disliked the sound of my motorbike...I managed to elude said beastie, just! ...Fortunately Mr WC21 was not set upon by an overly overbearing, angry Ovis type on his travels.
I was in my teens when I rode up Hardknott pass..I was young and fearless in those days 🤣...It'd not be my thing these days ...terrifyingly steep! Mr WC21 is a year younger than me ...Volvo or not ...I think he was most intrepid in his endeavours. 😊
Well that was absolutely wonderful. Your detective work is amazing as that was the exact spot. You even filmed the exact boulder where my history teacher (Who was the double of Yoffy from Fingerbobs) offered his certain opinion of how the Romans attempted to break up the boulders but were defeated by the now famous 'Britannic boulder of resistance'. As schoolkids we all sat turning blue with the cold, clutching our cheese sandwiches, hoping to drink our orange juice before it froze whilst our teacher attempted to demonstrate (in vain) how the Roman engineers went about rock breaking. We were forced up there in the pouring rain, sat soaking wet in howling wind and trekked back to the hostel in sleet ...and yet it's one of the best memories of my childhood because it was an adventure. Kids were also tougher in the 70's.
I love the idea the Romans (who wrote the history) blamed the British workforce for the boulders victory. As kids, all rugged up in winter attire, yet still numb due to the elements, I looked up at the black clouds rolling in while our intrepid history teacher tried to ram a wedge into the rock and I thought of a third reason why the boulders won...The Romans simply ran back to their barracks before they froze their Denarius off, leaving the hardier Brit workforce to brew up a cuppa and knock off early for the day.
Thank you so very much for making this magnificent vid Mr WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd ...Kind regards, Phil.
Phew! What a relief. Imagine how embarrassing it would have been if I had got that wrong!
Love your account of that school trip from all those years ago. I'll work out how to pin your comment to the top. Yes, us kids of the 70s were a hardy lot and yes, all teachers looked like that!
May I also commend you on your memory too! It's either really good, or the field trip was so terrible, it's seared upon your mind!
WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd'll Fix it! I better not say that...
Love your description of a 70's schooltrip. You got it spot on!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd I think it's a mix of both...The school trip was generally like the opening scene from Bridge over the river Kwai with teachers marching us up hills and over bogs demanding we climb rocks ect...but a much, much colder version set in Northumberland rather than Burma. However, I loved the memory of seeing the 'Britannia boulder of resistance' and was marveled by the fact that despite the harsh weather up there the notches cut into the boulders by Romans still existed almost 2,000 years later. It's what sparked my lifelong love of history. So it's a mix...the horrors of the forced yomp, combined with the magic of seeing a forever unknown Roman engineer in distant history failed efforts to simply get a mundane job done (splitting a boulder) that you could actually reach out and touch. It wasn't in a museum under glass..it felt like a connection to that disgruntled engineer. But, being 7 years old at the time I could not for the life of me remember where it was located. It brought back so many forgotten memories simply to see the location 49 years later. I can't thank you enough for your hard work in making this vid and the jogging of my childhood memories. I do hope other fans of your wonderful work post more half remembered school trips to historic sites ...Inspector WC21 will surely track the culprit down.
@@philcollinson328it’s great reading your recollections and I’m so pleased I was able to take you back there.
I agree 100% - museums are fine, but finding survivals like this in the landscape is what really lights my fire!
😂😂😂
I do not claim to know why, but I was one of a group of four undergraduate school chums who cycled up the Hardknott pass in 1979.
A vivid memory, the derailleur gears cluncking and grinding on our ascent, engaging the tiny granny cog on the chain ring, a cog you always boasted you'd never need !
It was hard enough in a Volvo!
Excellent video thanks 😊
Cheers Adam! Thanks for the feedback and glad you enjoyed the video.
I love that you incorporated a childhood memory into the video. Another brilliantly funny and yet factual video. Thanks for sharing. And thank you Phil for the memory.
Cheers Chris! Hope all is well with you.
Just brilliant....👍
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!
Brilliant stuff as usual. Fascinating from beginning to end. If only you were my history teacher back in the 60’s and 70’s. I have never been so interested hearing about a pile of stones in a ditch. You and Tweedy Outdoors have opened my eyes to the archeology of the byways on my own doorstep. Thank you sir. 👏👏👍😀
Thank you kindly, Andrew. It is so rewarding to get feedback like this. I definitely made the wrong career choice!
Glad you enjoyed this story - it really is one of the most interesting I've looked into - and to track down a memory for a subscriber was a real joy!
Astonishing quality videos on this channel. Intelligent and not afraid to go their own way. Deserves so many more views and subscribers
You really are too kind! Thank you for your support!
The best dressed hiker I've ever seen! I remember visiting this road over 20 years ago and a number of 50+ year old bikers were doing a length of Britain ride for charity. A few Harleys came a cropper on one particular corner and needed assistance to get back on their motor cycles. Thanks for the happy memories.
Thank you - very gracious of you!
Glad the video brought back memories. Bikes and cars seem to have been coming unstuck there for years! I saw a car stuck on the edge of the road on the way up there.
Fantastic. A great story well told Sir.
Thank you Paul! This one was a lot of work, but it was great fun too!
Stunning scenery, very well dressed host with impeccable character and delivery as usual. It’s a 10 out of 10 from me yet again. 👍🏻
Thank you Oscar - appreciate your ongoing support! I was glad the sun was out at Hardknott!
I hope you can find your subscriber base. these are very well put together.
Thank you for your encouragement - it means a lot. Feels like we’re starting to get there.
That looks exactly like the corner east of Teppermoor farm where my father lived in the 50's/60's just across from Mythraeum temple and Brocolitia Fort. I've walked on the corner with my father looking at the area and we seen the rocks with holes/slots in as well. He used to work the land there on the farm and he also told me he'd been told they found it too hard to cut through so diverted. Maybe true or maybe just speculation passed down through generation to generation with no solid facts, who knows but great vlog anyway, thank you 😀👍
Thank you - I really love it when the videos get a response like this from viewers with a personal connection to the location.
It’s hard to fathom that they just gave up here and lived with an imperfect ditch for over 300 years, but what else can we conclude from this spectacular site?
Lovely to hear your memories. Thank you!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd I'm no historian or geologist so don't have the answer but maybe it was a simple case of, the direction there were going to where they planned to end had to divert at some point and it was simply just here. You have mentioned the question before, why did the Vallum swap sides but I have a "Chicken n egg" question. Which came first, the Wall, Vallum or Ditch? I don't know the answer 😀
Really interesting questions. It is now generally accepted that the Vallum came after the wall. Here, they presumably had to drive it through the same bedrock.
The wall and wall ditch are contemporary. So they manned the wall there, looking down on that messy ditch, for over 3 centuries!
The other interesting thing about the wall at Limestone Corner is the way they diverted it to ride over the Whin Sill. If you look at the map, you’ll see this odd deviation quite clearly.
Wow, Darren, this one is really taking off in just two days - and very deservedly so! Fantastic research and presentation! And you face while driving up the pass is priceless!
Thank you Matt! Yes another one that seems to have hit a sweet point! As we’ve discussed before, the algorithm is a thing of mystery…
That face was genuine! Terrifying!
A WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd production on a Roman theme to watch on a spring Sunday afternoon. What bliss to be alive!
Thank you - too kind! Hope you enjoyed it. Fun to make!
Fantastic - the excitement was certainly building here at Tweedy Towers the moment you mentioned the Roman parade ground and I had a distinct feeling I knew what was coming! Hilarious - 35 quid well spent in my opinion!
Looks like you actually had some nice weather for a change (well for the first half of the, ahem, day), very pleased to see that.
That driving sequence worked really well I thought, something very different for the channel.
Good bit of self censorship on the theme tune of that probably best forgotten TV show of our childhood!
I thought I was going off wild camping but that rather fine looking ditch towards the end of the video stirred something inside me...
Thank you Tweedy. I am really pleased the marching centurions didn’t disappoint! You were absolutely at the front of my mind when I spent that £35!
Glad you enjoyed my “Top Gear” moment! If it proves popular, I may have to go back and do both the passes, both ways!
I do quite like the idea of “fixing it” for subscribers, but I can’t come up with a name that isn’t likely to get me banned from RUclips!
Oh yes, what a ditch to wild camp in! Camping where the Romans gave up. I was going to suggest a summer camp there, but then I remembered - they don’t do summer in Northumberland!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd "WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd Shall Endeavour to Arrange Matters On Your Behalf In a Hopefully Satisfactory Fashion"...?
@@tweedyoutdoors that’s it! The badge will just have to be quite big.
Lovely stuff.
Thank you!
You just gained another subscriber…..🎉
Thank you Stephen and welcome!
Your drive up the road to the pass has reminded me of the horror of driving a minibus in July last year up to the Honister Pass. It wasn’t too bad, unless something was coming the other way. First gear got a lot of use.
Thanks, a very informative and entertaining 25mins.
Really appreciate that - thank you and glad you enjoyed it.
Stunning scenery and a great tale. Nice work
Thank you, Stuart. Really appreciate that and glad you enjoyed it.
Most fascinating 👌
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it.
Always enjoy the scenery and your narrative. This part of the Lake District is beautiful but desolate.
Thank you! Yes, stunning but also quite intimidating. Incredible that they plonked a fort there. Those Dalmatians must have been pretty disappointed!
Loved this vidd! I've got fab memories of driving over Hardknott pass with my two over excited young sons and late hubby in th noughties. Sons obviously paraded around the fort well wrapped up! Drive not difficult on a fine day at a reasonable speed. I'd love to go back. Looking forward to the next
Thank you and glad the video brought back happy memories! I might have to do another video someday, going over both passes!
I must have watched this 20 times or more...I'm still so grateful and it always makes me smile ..How kind of Mr WC21!
Cheers Phil. Got another lined up for you in the new year. Will I get it right again?!
It brought back glorious memories of field trips! Thank you!
Cheers Robert! Glad it took you back to some good memories and thanks for watching!
Beautiful scenery, I assume the fly-by was complimentary and not another "over-1000 subscribers" perk? Congratulations again. Every time I see Hardnott I get "Its a hard-knock life" from Annie running through my head I think because it probably was a hard-knock life up there in the winter. Well explained, well shot thank you.
Thanks Chris!
Yes, it must have been hard up there, but they did have a bathhouse with underfloor heating - that must have been very welcome!
Thanks for the lovely feedback. With the two locations, this was quite an undertaking, and I'm glad the landscape has come across well.
Very entertaining watch 👍
Thank you so much - glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent that Fixed it for me for my Roman Fix and without any of the unpleasant 70s violation to my juvenile privies. Plus a load more locations to wander around with my metal detector probably all been done to death but I convince myself that previous more astute detectorists missed something. Right time to dig my Gary Glitter LP out and find my Jim'll Fix It badge on second thoughts noooooooooooooooooo !!!!!
Ha! Thank you! Glad I was able to fix it for you to identify some more sites! I’m the leader of the gang!
To prove this I expect platform shoes for your next ramble. Come On Come On Come On I say!! Ok that's enough of the lame GG puns.@WC21UKProductionsLtd
Ha! You may have sown a seed…
Detecting anywhere near those sites could not only get you arrested, but get all your gear confiscated.
@@DomingoDeSantaClara Thanks for the warning
Lot's of interesting questions in the comments, but what I really want to know is where fo you get your wonderful clothing from? Everything looks bespoke, not a hint of the charity shop to be seen. Marvellous! I'm looking forward to more collabs with Tweedy, maybe a pub crawl around the London City wall?
Thank you - that’s very nice of you to say!
A lot of my clothes have been made for me over the years. I struggle to get what I want off the peg. It’s expensive, but they last. Both of the jackets in this one are over 10 years old.
The plus fours are the newest additions - within the last year - from the excellent, Spencer’s Trousers in Huddersfield!
I took my Australian wife-to-be to Limestone Corner back in 2002. She was very impressed - the northernmost point in the Roman Empire and they couldn't manage to dig a ditch properly. When you think of all the great Roman engineering achievements, it is a bit of an eye opener.
Huzzah for the great Britannic boulder of resistance! Ditch unfinished due to hardness of rock, as the OS map says.
Thank you!
I know, it’s really weird isn’t it? Would love to know the story as to what happened there!
Hope the video brought back memories and thank you for watching.
no Antonine wall then....
@@wullieg7269 yes, just for 2 relatively short periods. We'll be getting to that soon. Thanks.
I took my Australian bride to Lindisfarne Christmas day 2010....She's still a bit annoyed now we're back in Aus as she didn't get to see the wall.
@@philcollinson328 Lindisfarne is better. Much as my late wife enjoyed the wall, she really loved Lindisfarne.
Thanks
Cheers Phil. You are so very gracious.
Another superb video! I’m so glad you found the answer Phil was looking for! (Assuming I can call him Phil)
Thank you very much. Phil is delighted to have been reunited with his memories! I think you may call him Phil. I was relieved that we got it right. It would have been mortifying if he’d have said, “no, it wasn’t that”.
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd Yes guys, I prefer Phil...My dear octogenarian mum is the only person who refers to me as Philip if I'm in trouble with her...If she called me Mr Collinson, I'd run...even to this day 🤣.
Doubled that subscriber membership inside 2 months ...You've honed your great skills ....Well done MR WC21
What a great idea, bringing peoples memories back to life...and also a nod to Fingerbobs
Thanks. We'll have to wait for Mr. Collinson to see if I got it right - I think he's on the other side of the world.
To me, the Fingerbobs chap is the definitive 70s's man!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd You were right on the money...Yes born, bred and lived 40 years up in the north east of England, I've now lived in the very most southern region of Tasmania for the last 16 years with my dear Aussie wife as it's the only region of Australia where I'd not melt.
@@philcollinson328 that's great! I hope it didn't make you homesick. Probably cemented your decision to move to Tasmania as the right one! Boy was it cold up there!
Lovely location, watching now
Love your placeholder comments!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd Good to get in there early! Great video, I have fond memories of the Hardknott Pass, especially one with my other stalling halfway up in a Vauxhall Nova and another time I was driving for the 3 Peaks Challenge and I had people on board being sick!
@@hedleythorne Thank you and glad you enjoyed it. Sorry about bringing back the vomiting memory!
Lovely to meet you at the Laurel and Hardy Museum today. Hope you had a good time and I'll definitely watch some of your videos as soon as I can.
Thanks Matthew! Really appreciate you taking time to answer all my questions today! Hope you enjoy the channel and will check yours out later when I get home.
@StanandOllie1937 I...I am a huge fan of Oliver and Hardy ..I bought the entire DVD boxset of their work last year ...Don't tell my wife...it wasn't cheap 🤣. I also loved their 2018 tribute movie starring Coogan and Reilly..from memory. I'll go check it out.
@@philcollinson328 It's a great movie but definitely not factually correct as 90% of it was fiction. Outstanding performances by the lead roles though.
I have just thought who you remind me of: all three characters from Last of the Summer Wine!
Ha! Brilliant! I love that I’m a fusion of all 3!
Given how well dressed Mr WC21 and Tweedy dress ....I hope they NEVER invite me to join one of their vids Jane...Compo is hardly a compliment, no matter how much amusement it'd give you 😂..Hedley surpasses himself in that role.
The presenter reminds me of 'Professor ' Stanley Unwin.😊
Ha yes! Unwin is very probably an influence!
another Sunday afternoon taking over the Time Team slot
Thank you! Big shoes to fill, but I try!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd Already shoes filled.
Hard Knott is a beautiful corner of Britain. I remember (aged 5 to 7)school trips on Laal Ratty railway in the valley below. Got to the fort a few years later. Also remember school trip to Housteads fort on Hadrians Wall . Great video, keep at it!
Thank you very much and I’m glad the video reminded your school trips. I’d like to do a video on that railway line - just need to think up a reason for it!
Wonderful Housteads is the one part of my school school excursion I remember very well, given my parents had taken me there often on summer days out...
Limestone Corner was a once only experience ...And I had completely forgotten where it was ..Time Detective Mr WC21 of the Yard solved the case however.
Just discovered your site,spot on ,good narration and sartorial style.I wander around these Roman sites,mainly in old landrovers trying to stimulate the old grey cells,works every time,a good hobby for old timers.
Hi David and welcome. You can’t beat getting out to these sort of places. I hope you enjoy the content here and if there are any sites you think we should look at, don’t hesitate to let us know.
I can't resist retorting the '''age thing''🤣...Mr WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd is a matter of months younger than me ...I'm sure they were tears of emotion...hahaha.
I must admit, the Fingerbobs bit did get me a bit!
Great video, remember Limestone Corner from when I walked Hadrian’s wall, me and Peter had our coffee stop there.
It’s a great spot, Richard. Good place to shelter too!
After living under Whiteleaf cross for 45 yeas , I had never heard of the Bledlow cross thats just 10min drive away. I have also hiked past it loads of times without knowing of its existence. Fascinating video thanks a lot..
Cheers. It has been like a secret, hiding for years. It was good to get to see it as it starts to reemerge and hopefully it’ll be shining white again at some stage.
Go grandad ❤he’s my grandad
Thanks Unfinable - and you’re my number 1 Grandson!
Le Celtic Resistance. Amazing that a group of soldiers from Italy made their way that far north! Must have been enthusiastic sheep farmers as that is some good farming country. Plus they must have liked Fish n Chips which would have been far superior to their spagetti and cheese 🧀. Good history thanks . Despite my amateur attempt at humour. Seriously fascinating 🇬🇧 🇳🇿
Thanks David. That first cohort of Dalmatians were actually from Croatia, would you believe! They must have felt like they’d drawn the short straw - being posted to that freezing and inhospitable place! But as you say, there was the fish and chips to make up for it!
I'll always consider this your best work so far. Admittedly, I may be a tad biased. I still thank you, despite aging me haha.
I’m proud of this one. A lot of work, but worth it!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd You are amazing. Keep at it sir!
"Yoffy lifts a finger, and a mouse is there"
He certainly does! Or did! Yoffy is the embodiment of 70s masculinity!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd indeed he was! Back when men's hands were made for making
There's the same situation on a bigger scale on the top of Croy Hill (Antonine Wall) really deep ditches, twelve feet deep in some places, leading up to the top of the hill and suddenly 'thud' it hits solid igneous bedrock. You can still see the chisel marks. Some officer obviously made an executive decision. 'Bugger it, just start again on the down slope', thirty foot later, over the brow of the hill, the ditch starts again.
That sounds like something I should take a look at. It’s wonderful seeing an executive decision frozen in time like that!
Amazing channel, I've seen less interesting content on 1mil+ channels. Keep it up!
That is fantastic feedback - thank you! Glad you’re enjoying the content too. Thanks.
The Roman's just hit their Imperial Quato for that week. And off they went, to the Publicus Housus and got completely legless.
🤣
It really could be as simple as that!
Don't forget to buy Mr WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd a nice cup of English breakfast tea...Although he claims to prefer coffee these days. So buy the gent a coffee. 👍
I still think it was tears of emotion :p
Or more likely you stood on the dead rabbit lol
Mr WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd... I have tried for a while to discover if you have a Facebook group for members of this wonderful place you've worked so hard to create ...If you have one, could you post a link sir? If not ...would you consider doing so?
Hi Phil, no I don’t have one for the channel - probably something I should do, along with Instagram and all the rest. It’s on the list!
Had to edit you tube .. I meant Facebook ....meh, youngsters being all high tech with their drones ect...I knew what I meant 🤣...Serious question however.
@@philcollinson328 no the channel doesn’t have a Facebook page, but it is on my list of tasks. I’ve been a bit reluctant, not really seeing what it adds, but I know all the large channels have socials!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd It would allow fans of your wonderful channel to chat and get to know each other more informally ...Also gives you a platform to announce up and coming vids as well as test the waters regards what they'd enjoy seeing you visit ...or (the mind boggles) hike up ....
@philcollinson328 oh yes, a group rather than a page. That’s a good idea!
This old gem hit the algorithm again! ....Odd how it works....
Yep. Liverpool’s Ancient Stones has gone from 1,800 views to 15,000 in the last 2 weeks. 2 months after it was published!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd It's so odd how it works Darren..Regardless, so very happy for your deserved success.
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd From memory I complimented your singing skills ......Maybe keep your crooning up
I have a plan on that front….
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd It really just shows you ...Facebook is a mystery ....It's a combination of luck.. talent ....And you have talent in spades ....
Who was the artist that did all the Roman pictures in books and leaflets, Embleton, Embley....?
That’s a good question. That name rings a bell. Possible video in that - cheers!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd had a poke about on the net...Ron Embleton 1930 - 1988. Definitely seen one of his pics of striking workers at the Limestone Corner site.
@@billykershaw2781oh that's great - I will have a look to see if I can find that. It's fascinating to think about them downing tools and the job never getting completed.
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd went to Piercebridge this afternoon, down to Aldbourough St. John, no I'm not paying a fiver, and across to Stanwick. St. John the Baptist Church is my favourite, coffin/ preparation one piece carved stone thing outside on the West side. Church has a 10th century cross, with Danelaw intentions to the left,just inside the doorway, the rest of the carvings in the porch are intriguing...and yes we had a walk along the wall. Kirkby Stephen church has a Loki stone, .......
@@billykershaw2781 I’m sure you had a good time. I’ve heard of the stone at Kirkby Stephen and have it earmarked for a future project. Aren’t we lucky to have all these antiquities!
Criminally underrated, perhaps have a catchier channel name and I honestly think you'll go all the way (I'm a filthy YT addict)
Oh thank you - that’s really encouraging!
Yes, I might need to look at the channel name. I’d be loathe to lose it - I love it for its obtuseness and pomposity!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd You deffo have the personality for YT tho :)
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd works well as a name.
OMG! 9,000 views ...Well played Mr WC21 (UK) Productions Ltd! ... My dear old history teacher is famous thanks to you..Fingerbobs will be delighted 🤣.
Top rated video on the channel, Phil!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd Your hard work is amazing, and getting better every post you make. An absolute joy for us all to view ...Thank you.
The ditch is clearly unfinished, so my history teacher was probably correct, that they just gave up and it did not justify the time and effort or pressing duties elsewhere.
Yes, it certainly looks like that. Fascinating that they lived with it like that for over 300 years. Oh to know what the details of that story were!
Thank you for watching and commenting.
Not quite the "northernmost" part of the empire... ther are forts at Inchtuthhill, and Ardoch, both in Perthshire. Ardoch is a fantastic grass-covered relic 2000 years old. (and cold as hell!)
Oh yes - they are another story! Hoping to film up there this year. Absolutely fascinating.
Thanks for watching and commenting!
I mean.. that road might be slightly dangerous for cars, but I don’t think romans stomping on foot and horseback would have been too bothered 😅😂
Their route makes more sense than the one we use today! I guess they had to lug some carts over the pass too, but at least there was a hot bath waiting!
What was the point of adding two courses in the 60s? The wall seemed tall enough. Smoking banana peels no doubt. It was thoughtful of them to add the slates. Summer of Love and all.
I know - they just loved doing that sort of thing back then. You're probably right - it was what they were smoking!
A case of cheap builders starting a job and disappearing, it makes you proud to be British.
Thanks Keith! Some things never change, right!
@11:30 "Definitely the worst one in the UK."
Not even close. You haven't driven from Kenmore to Amulree, or up Glen Lyon and up round the back of Ben Lawers, or shehallion. Drive along Loch Arkiag to Glen Dessarry, or over the path of Condie. There's five I can name off the top of my head, and I'll bet there's a dozen more. I'm sure that'll be the most difficult in England though.
This vid is now monetised even before you watch it ....Congratulations Mr WC21
That's odd, because I selected mid-roll placement as a standard. Behind the scenes in RUclips is utterly bewildering!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd Well, you are most certainly a two ad introduction for me now ...showing off a bit.
🤣
You gave over a thousand subscribers. Though you should know.
Thank you! I hadn’t noticed!
We are amused, so much to unpack. Due to complete ignorance I drove over Hard Knott pass in the 1980s and was unfazed by it’s windy nature. This road is dead easy if you have driven in outback Australia. One could say “Bitumen road! Absolute luxury. Trying driving over waterlogged roads with pot holes which could swallow a whole four wheel truck.” The ancient Briton, would have replied in response to the comment from Roman writings “these Romans are f….ing crazy. Why build a fort in a place like Hard Knott pass.” You should be asking why build a ditch through a boulder outcrop. The Britannia boulder was stolen in the late 1980s. Someone accidentally pushed it down the hill. The era of lawlessness in the wilds of Northumbria continues after 2,000 years. I was surprised no-one stole the wheels of your vehicle were not stolen when you left to go to study the original Roman road. So as someone once quoted “What did the Romans do for us?”
Ha! Thank you Andrew! I know that pass is child's play by the "standards" of other countries, but it's terrifying for an English wuss like me!
I didn't know about the boulder getting pushed down the hill! Still lawless there!
Thanks for watching and go easy on those Australian roads - they sound terrifying!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd They're not as terrifying as UK, one lane, snow covered country lanes bordered on both sides by dry stone walls. 🤣
Tickle tickle
Cheers for the tickling, Desmond!
Well it certainly looks like something got in the way of the Roman constructive process, I have a feeling it was more the worker than the obstruction personally ...but why just leave it like that, why not get some other more biddable workers to come and finish off what was probably the end of the unbiddable ones.
Perhaps the work took long enough with Brits swinging the lead and generally harrassing the gaurds that the Romans actually moved out before it was finished.
Fascinating anomoly in the middle of nowhere.
Thank you! Yes it really is a fascinating anomaly. As you say, why not get a new crew in to finish the job? They manned the wall there - looking down on that mess - for over 300 years and no one sorted it!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd lol thats a long time to think ...nah can't be bothered. Although 300 years worth of Scottish people watching them right back would be a powerful motivator to stay up on the wall out of immediate reach.
I was wrong. It’s Harry Enfield!
Thanks! That could have been worse!
At least nobody has called you Jim'll .......
@@lynettecockburn332 thank goodness for that! I quite like the idea of taking subscribers back to places they half remember from years ago, but the "fixing it" thing is a problem!
Harry Enfield? lol...Mr WC21 is surely the late, great, Robin Bush's younger and far fitter brother🤣. Whilst Mr Bush was happy to settle and spend a day in a library, Mr WC21 hikes up death defying mountains in blizzards (worries me sometimes)... Where they both share a great talent is the ability to make history fascinating and fun for all ages with a wonderful salting of gentle humour and Tweed...The Tweed adds a lot to the content ...Ask @Tweedyoutdoors.
what did the romans ever do for us?!
Roads, sanitation? 😂
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd Wine mostly.
There were no British around when the romans invaded, they were Britons... The British came to be in 1706...
I am sure they enjoyed coming in 1706. If not, I'd likely not be here.
Of course. You are right.
I'd never send a vid of me..This 56 year old Geordie, having lived feral in southern Tasmania was not the visual content you needed to reach 1,000 subs 6 months ago...never mind close to hitting the 5K a few months later approaching Christmas 🤣 ...Are you mad? ...never mind...🤣
I’d like to include some viewers in a video. You up for that? !
calling it "british" doesn't change the fact it was us Scots that defeated the Romans, no the english🤣
Really, the Romans found it pointless ....not so much a defeat by the Scots ..given they didn't exist until the Irish (Vikings) defeated the Picts a few hundred years later ...The Romans saw no value in the Pictish lands, so drew a line over their empire ....It wasn't value for money ...
If the Romans had discovered a gold mine in Glasgow or a silver mine in Inverness they'd have invaded and stayed ......All they saw were hills, clouds and vexed Picts so didn't bother...The Irish invasion a few hundred years later sorted them out.
Alex, I can’t argue with that! Not the last time the Scots outclassed the English, either!
The Scots were in Ireland during the Roman occupation of Britain and the English didn't exist until after the Romans left when the Anglo Saxons came in from Germany so that statement is wrong.
Absolutely.. Joshing with Alex who claimed the Scots beat the Romans.
You don't sound very Celtic, more like an Anglo-Saxon ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT.
About 28% Celtic Briton. Around 30% Viking. You’re right about the balance!
@@WC21UKProductionsLtd So why start with a reference to the people that you ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS decimated, stole the lands from, drove us to the peripherals, and then kept attacking us for centuries?
You probably think King Urthur was an Anglo-Saxon mongrel.
That is why you hate the Irish so much. We beat you in 1922, drove you out after your occupation of 800 years, got rid of the childish, anti-democratic monarchy, and became the only adult political system in the Isles of PRYTTYNN.
Stop being such a drama queen - I can tell you for a fact that by the 1950s there were buses & tourist coaches going over Hardknott Pass on a regular basis yet YOU make out that it is traumatic to do the same in a modern Volvo? Maybe you can't drive very well?
You’ve caught me out making drama for RUclips views!
I rode over HardKnott pass on my motorbike in the late 1980's ...The road was not great even then...Worse still, I got set upon by a Ram who disliked the sound of my motorbike...I managed to elude said beastie, just! ...Fortunately Mr WC21 was not set upon by an overly overbearing, angry Ovis type on his travels.
I was in my teens when I rode up Hardknott pass..I was young and fearless in those days 🤣...It'd not be my thing these days ...terrifyingly steep! Mr WC21 is a year younger than me ...Volvo or not ...I think he was most intrepid in his endeavours. 😊