Why Are Siege Player So Negative? - Tuesday Mailbox - Rainbow Six Siege
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- Опубликовано: 1 мар 2021
- Today's Mailbox I discuss concerns of Rainbow Six Siege lasting for another year.
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Anyone who is on console knows exactly why people are so negative
Im on console and i have no fucking idea.
I play ps4 and we still have alot more of problems than on pc
I wont lie seige was getting on my nerves. Toxicity, the same maps, DD. But recently it has gotten better
MnK and DDoS attacks are the most prevalent problems on the PS4/5
Mnk, ddos, macro using asshats, smurfs, etc.
dealing with mnk and macros on console kills my soul little by little. I can't be happy.
How often do you actually see it because I play low gold level and barely ever see mnk. Or maybe I don’t notice
@@Michaelc-cb7jc I’m in silver and always play against mnk and dossiers
@@Michaelc-cb7jc I’m in low plat, and I’d say out of 5 matches of ranked, I’m getting about 2 with MnK, and then about 1/5 matches are with MnK on casual, it depends on the day. I don’t get many DDosers tho
I quit the game long ago because I kept coming across that every game. It has been season since I played.
@@Padlock_Steve i play casual on PS4 and go against MnK users about 60% of the time. Theres no escape.
I recently got back into Siege and was surprised how much things haven’t change.
Yesterday I was 5-1 top of the team, the only one making callouts and speaking (obviously). Then 2 of my teammates unmute themselves just to laugh at my voice and accent (im french and I do my callouts in english) and then proceed to teamkill me and throw the rest of the game away...
I seriously don’t want to continue to play, half my games goes this way because of toxic players..
I reported them but will it work?? I wish Ubi would do something with this because people like me will just stop playing.
Sorry for the bad english btw..
that sucks man im sorry that you had to go through that.
Yeah I feel you bro. Good English btw better than some native speaker
Thanks guys! Means a lot!
Siege has the worst community
Hopefully the reputation system will fix this. Ubi has been trying to stop toxicity for a long time now.
It can be hard to stay positive on console when every other player is a MnK cheater - but lets stay positive!
There's so many mnk players, if ubi ban them half of sieges playerbase will disappear on console. I feel like ubi should just add native support like cod and fortnite.
If you can't beat em join em champ
Just get better at the game, I'm P3 and slam mnk users 😂
@@SneakySodomiser is it worth it?
@@SneakySodomiser you little cheater are a part of the problem 😉
Reasons why we’re negative
1. Less and less content
2. Variety: Pick and Ban was great at first until we play the same 4 maps with the same generic op bans every match
3. Original maps eating the dirt. While some reworks have been nice, the majority don’t sit well with me.
4. Operators that need buffs are still ignored. Nøkk is a good step but really a whole year for a buff that should have came the next season, and we still have operations like warden or blitz.
5. Obscure changes proposed in the y6 roadmap. I cannot wait to pick an echo early and still have to deal with his drone denying plant.
(Edit part) 6. DDOS’ing. Getting booted from a lobby is literally commonplace in high plat and up of you don’t have a VPN or OVH. Yes I’m aware you can go cop a nord sub with a discount from like 30 content creators but I shouldn’t have to buy a vpn to play a game.
7. Personally I have played console for a while, but recently swapped to pc. The amount of hackers even after the 90k ban wave is still ridiculous.
MNK is absolutely destroying the game on console. Had 3 matches on the bounce last night where the entire enemy team was on MNK in low plat ranks. Clearly areen't good enough for PC plat so come and cheat against and abuse the most forgotten portion of the playerbase to make themselves feel better
just get your plat charm and play unranked. Doing that helped me have way more fun and experience less stress, even when im a solo player
@@samo9613 got teamkilled 6 times on unranked the other saturday
AMEN
@@samo9613 Unranked on console is just a longer casual match. That's been my experience so far.
i have had some games where pretty much every one but me was using macros or mnk
I recently got back into siege after stopping playing it for a couple months and I can see why I stopped playing. I play the same map literally every single game. The map variety in this game is sooo crappy and it is made even worse when people are banning the same maps over and over and ending up playing a map that you played the game before it is soooo annoying and boring!
the reason why i left is how long it takes to get into a match, how quickly you die and how long you do nothing when dead. and also how buggy the damn game is and how uniform skins can camoflauge in certain maps. and a shit more problems
They really need to remove the map ban system in ranked. I haven't even played on skyscraper when it was first released.
I played outback 4 times in a row :/
@@Maki-qw8he dude I have been playing coastline every other game and sometimes two or three times in a row. It is getting so repetitive and boring
@@rileygibson242 I play on console, but I only get club house
Man I'm gonna be real with you, every time I boot up siege and make even a small avoidable mistake it swings my mood from hyped to sad emptyness really quickly.
It used to be that I got toxic when I messed up, but I don't even have the energy to play the game regularly anymore, let alone get angry over it.
I think a lot of Negativity comes from us console players because Ubi has ignored us for the last 2-3 years and have let cheaters take over while doing nothing about it.
I can't speak for PC but console siege is a shitty experience and has been for a while so that explains a lot of negativity.
Yup
Agree
Pc siege is nothing but cheaters from silver 5 to gold 1, this is coming from over 3k hours of experience
Big facts right here
cheating on console? can you elaborate
Real OG’s remember when it was “Sunday mailbox” now this man onto Tuesday mailbox 🤣
Community was in a healthier place before the lion-finka mess, that's when it felt like my friends left the game one by one. And then I left after the heartford base rework cause the map was still bad.
i left just before the rework of hereford base and have only just started again
it's a lot better now than it was back then
I prefer the old Hereford base
I’ve been disappointed in the game since a year ago, I’ve completely lost interest in the game now and 101% agree and know that r6s is gonna die within a year, I mean even Varsity Gaming suggested it... MANY content creators agreed
@@cadenmiller No.
@@808Efe yes
Every single time i look away is when an enemy peeks
R6 timings are the best 😂
Same 😞👍🏼
Clearly R6 is a bad game
The game requires so much attention and focus that gamers begin to take it very seriously. Especially at the higher ranks... if you don’t play exactly as they think you should, they get very frustrated and express themselves..... well, with toxicity lol
and that’s why I’ll never play ranked
And that's why I'll never turn on my mic
Yes fam!!
I'm completely fine being a casual noob. Playing with your fellow noobs is so much more fun than playing with the sweaty sweats. Like, I just want to have fun bro 😭 y u bully me lol
@@simplyluis6548 yeah, im plat 1 in casual because i play much more casual than rankes and i get put with a team of casual players against a bunch of sweaty tryhards
I’m sure there are many like me who stopped playing long ago. Hell, i know so. Problem is i get more disappointed with every new season. Specially after being a year one player
1:27 I really like that cut into the other clip
Me to
The lack of content coming is disappointing.
Thats actually the smallest problem imo
Balancing old content > new content
They need to introduce more game mode rather than only sweaty mode 5v5...
@@Coeb005 Play casual. Obviously some people still sweat on it because they wanna practice but I just hop in and out of lobbies whenever that happens
@@Coeb005 play casual and stop complaining about sweaty players or just find another shoots siege isn’t supposed to be for casuals apart from events
Hard to stay positive when ubi constantly makes changes I don't really like
Also every comment says m&k is a big problem which it is, some dude went 17-0 against me
The biggest fans of anything are the biggest complainers.
*laughs in Star Wars*
Just wanna see it succeed but console mnk ain’t the one can’t see people putting up with it for a long time
Yea like AC fans trashing Odyssey when they've only sank about 45mins in on a toaster of a rig
Complainers? Ahaha yeah no. We are verbally told things and they don't come into the game multiple times every year about things the devs think it is a good idea
with good reason to complain i might add, since the biggest fans r the ones that want to see the game succeed and be fun aswell as competitevly balanced
Honestly It can be hard to be positive when they keep trashing console players, like taking Dokk's C75 :(
And taking away her frags AGAIN
From a console player,
*Siege needs more maps, more weapons, and less MnK cheaters*
Why is no one talking about how Flores has no new weapons the variety in siege is starting to be trash, they rework maps instead of giving new maps no progression system the game isn’t in a healthy spot
This has been happening for the last 2 years.
One word
Laziness
@@guywithbread7873 bug fixes? And reworks? They’re doing tidying to the game that the higher ranks and pros appreciate.
Ubisoft has killed this game with their “balancing”
I don't necessarily disagree, but in what way do you mean?
@@cerjmedia taking away bucks nades. That was uncalled for and unnecessary because he had a decent load out and he needed no change what so ever. Giving ying another flash?(I know they took it back) I'm just naming things they have done in the past. I honestly don't get how you don't know. I quit the game long ago but I know there is more but I haven't been following the game.
If they didn't balance this game, it would have died years ago.
i mean, you cant get everything perfect on the first try, and they are doing a pretty good job rn in my opinion, pretty much every competitive has had broken weapons or stuff like that
@@RoonMHGU don’t forget the gun balancing with optics. Only a silver from Ubisoft comes up with these kind of ideas.
I miss Siege man, this used to be my main game in 2016/2017 but now I just have no motivation to play it anymore. None of my old squad mates play it anymore and the game nowadays feels so slow and sluggish. Might just be me but the game just doesn’t feel exciting anymore
100%. On the same boat. The game's community kills it even more for me too when trying to play with randoms. Nothing but kids screaming racial slurs and teamkilling.
Maybe game is old you know
@@VonBraun1493 yes I know that feeling
Is your life falling apart like us, Matt? Lol Monday Mailbox...on a Tuesday xD
It used to be sunday mailbox
Was gonna say I remember when it was on sundays 😆
#mondaymailbox
Do you think siege should utilize their test server more? I feel like operators such as Blackbeard could have been fixed or adjusted so much sooner if they decided to just try things on the test server instead of only using it for massive adjustments/changes.
Yea, I don't understand why they don't do that. Isn't that what they told us it was intended for?
That transition at 1:29 was so great.
Siege has struggled for the past couple of years. When it first released, the format was unique and so many on consoles had never experienced such a game. It was really buggy, but it was fun nonetheless and a breath of fresh air. I played the game myself for 3 years on from release and became less and less interested. It's a fantastic game, yet the core mechanics have been learnt, the meta has totally changed and the headshot mechanic is the centrepiece of how the game plays. While the mechanic is unique, it really knocks home the feeling of "fastest finger" type shooter. Sure, most are like this, yet Siege takes it a step further. As someone who loved the game from day 1, I'm sad to see siege struggle seemingly. Lots of hackers and the meta changes have proven to discourage more casual players.
Becuase the game is so polished that you fall thru the map.
The games devs dont care
@@apolloonmars6328 after 5 years I think ppl are starting to know this haha
Is this a console issue?
@@misterclementine5641 nope PC
@@austinmartinez2312 5 years to late lmao
I think the whole “siege is gonna die this year” idea came from Varsity gaming
It never happen in few years. But console siege maybe.
How
Console siege will probs die because there is no support for the largest part of the community
The game has evolved into something I quite don't like, I jumped shipped about a year ago.
Pretty much this. I picked up Siege in the first year because it was supposed to be a team oriented, slower and methodical shooter. Now it feels like the best way to play is just run and gun with faster reflexes and that traditional tactical advantages are mostly gone now.
With the added bonus that the community has become outstandingly toxic even in the casual playlists...
@@narluk right on the money dude
Siege died (on console) a long time ago.
So much MnK
@@zatavious fr
Nah xbox siege is still rlly alive
M and k is terrible
@@malcolmfowler5663 mnk is freelo
i honestly feel like mats playing a different game sometimes, ubi are fulfilling there own prophecy of killing their game. removes a gadget (grenades) introduces a new gadget but instead of putting it into a gadget slot they remove secondary weapons limiting your options. 1q ubi strikes again.
Map and operator bans in ranked leads to the same 2 maps being played over and for someone who likes playing jackal I literally can't lmao, lack of new content besides an op or a rework makes the future look bleak and the community degrades u with how toxic they are over every little thing, so yeah were sometimes negative over this game
matt. the community wants new maps, operators, and guns. we don’t want these reworks every single season
I completely agree with you
They can't license new guns, we are getting new operators, and they want to improve old maps before adding new maps.
@Michael Okedasi been playing the game since velvet shell. i know every single map even the reworked ones and the casual ones. There is no excuse to bring in new maps
@@java5551 map ban. Until that's gone I don't want a new map just for the community to constantly ban it
Map bans need to go I'm sick of playing oregon for 5 straight hours even though it may be the most balanced some variability would be nice
a team stack of at least 3 will solve that problem easily.
I feel your pain. I have played on Oregon wayyyyyy to many times. I feel like map bans just need to have 4 maps on them. Each team bans one map and you are randomly selected from the remaining 2 maps.
I don't usually comment on these things but the transition from getting a double then getting downed, and using the flash that comes down the stairs to switch so smoothly to a Warden gadget clip? That was absolutely fantastic
"Reworking problematic operators like... Goyo" LOL
bro this game is legitimately depressing to play on console i dont even have fun winning anymore it just feels like a relief.. buggy as hell mnk everywhere toxic ppl every game etc
Facts bro
I just enjoyed the game more back when they released three operators per season (blood orchid, white noise)
That was only for 2 seasons, and only because we had a whole season beforehand without ANY content.
@@Roach6195 because of health taking up 2 seasons still bummed we didn’t get the polish map to go with ela and zo
I can’t even play the game, I get ddosed every game then they text me saying ezzz.
They should do something about teams if your solo everyone on your team and the other team should be a solo instead of one team being solos then the other team being fully stacked sweats in a party.
Transition at 1:27 was clean 👍
1:26 I love that clean edit
1:27 that transition though!
Really hard to stay positive on console it feels like ubi doesn’t care about console anymore everything that seems helpful comes out for pc players
Or if you happen to be playing a match and clutch or you’re too fragging getting ddossed is such a high possibility
I feel like the negativity is coming from the original and long lasting players. Many older player I know have stopped playing disregarding the vast addition of new players.
I've been playing since burnt horizon and I haven't felt pretty much anything of what people have been saying. I refrain from getting too much into the community because people are way too toxic. I just play casually and I enjoy the game quite a lot.
That flashed transition was smooth.😎
From Sundaymailbox to mondaymailbox to Tuesdaymailbox. Keep on going, sooner or later we will wrap around.
Matimi0 always finds a clever remark for when monday mailbox isnt on monday.
You ever hear the story “ if you give a mouse a cookie” that’s what’s going on with siege, Ubisoft devs have dug themselves into a hole, they have given so much to the upper echelon of players that when they do something for the casual gamers, they get upset and badmouth the game, if you give a upper skilled player a jager nerf they will ask for the removal of withstand, and so on, ubi needs to take control of their game, feedback is good, but an over reliance on feedback gives players the feeling that they control what happens with the game.
1:30 that’s transition and editing was smooth asf
matt that ying to warden transition was A1
Because people exploit combat mechanics such as crouch lean spamming to gain an advantage and it literally ruins my day when I have to try and shoot a person playing ring around the Rosie
Crouch lean spamming doesn’t affect gunfights anymore, if you’re losing to those players you’re just bad.
@@suppressed_viii yes it does it significantly reduces the chances of hitting someone’s head
@@benjibeatzz5096 no, it significantly increases your chance of missing shots, if you are crouch lean spamming. Developers addressed this seasons ago.
@@suppressed_viii it does affect gunfights but only at the very start of the spam
Siege just hasnt been the same since we stopped getting maps. also a friend of mine said that "Where console players lack in skill they make up for in toxicity"
Hey Matt, what do you think of a randomized arcade playlist? Or making a arcade playlist that rotates daily or so.
Lol eventually these mailboxes are going to get delayed back to Sundays 🤣
idk man doesnt seem like anyone is playing anymore, seems like i run into the same 10-20 players everyday depending on the game mode.
Where are you from?
@@taxista4932 west na
@@velaikka nah fr, i basically know most of the people i play against
@@nathanielong8371 I play against familiar guys on console, but it isnt excessive like champion ranked.
Remember that ranked and unranked/QM has skill based matchmaking, plus those players just might play as the same time as you do. Bumping into the same people just isn't a weird thing.
1:28 transition smooth asf
Q1, as an outsider, the way that i see it is that a lot of the comp scene is dying out, tournaments being canned, teams and players quitting etc
But balancing and gameplay changes are still centered around the competitive scene, leaving casual players behind and often with less to enjoy due to constant nerfs.
@@LiLxF310N exactly
So close to a Wednesday mailbox
The game has been bad for awhile I quit it because the community made this game awful.
If you left the game you like cuz of community it means you are weak
Same
@@firandrew he's talking about you.
Insurgency sandstorm iss an indi game and it fills the tactical game market that tom clancy was supposed to fill
@@nathanielpettersen2560 nah, i m only toxic when there is reason to be toxic, like 0-7 accbuyers with 0 knowledge of the map/0 aim/0 headphones or smth like that
What do you think about new switching ops on attack? Should it work like that: If you stick to your first operator you stay incognito but if you change the operator your choice is visible on the score/timer panel for defense when the prep phase ends.
1:29 Nice clean transition bro I need some editing skills like that.
The community is so toxic and makes playing the game for fun or competitively is stressful and mentally draining due to said toxicity. Also the game is missing so core elements that most other games have.
The idea siege is going to die came from Varsity I like him but he's always negative about siege
Haven't watched him in a long time because of that negativity but what did he say and when?
@@Kasum_ish sorry I didn't see this comment but basically he was saying siege is going the wrong way and it will die by the end of this year and went into detail about why
@@ethanh3132 I mean even from a non biased opinion an argument could be made to say the game could die. A lack of content, bad map reworks, cheating running rampant, the pick and ban system, intentionally removing maps from ranked, terrible op reworks and nerfs/buffs. Ubisoft can’t make a competent decision to save their lives.
1:29 that transition tho
1:28 Mat, that was some sick editing!
They better focus on buffing Twitch drone rather than nerfing Flores
Just give her 2 normal drones back.
I want a Vietnam and Korean war setting for battlefield
What do you think of a defensive trap operator that works similar to Kapkan but when triggered makes the player hallucinate seeing a person in front of them or hear footsteps around them
that transition at 1:29 🔥
Console is filled with MnK and Booters. Tough to enjoy playing for a while
I bought the game last Christmas, I already want to quit because of the toxicity of players. Idk past couple of weeks I've had some pretty bad experiences.
I saw
That slick stun grenade transition in the background videos mat I see you
That fact that drive had made it this far I doubt it will go away
Everyone in the comments whining and I'm just here like "ay yo how about that Ying flash transition in the video though?"
Yeah man I was searching the comments for this one lol
It was heat
Eat your cereal
Literally whining 😂🔥
I thought I was trippin lol
Unpopular opinion: I miss yacht I still play it regularly on t hunt but I love the map and I want to see it shine again
1:28 That transition tho😩
I was able to keep up with Siege up until the Mozzie/Gridlock season, after that I fell behind - and this game is so so so hard to come back to since it has so much you need to learn/relearn.
I don’t think I’ll be able to come back to the game ever.
I just started playing this game again for about two weeks and im already beginning to be bored of the game.
I feel like every single season people are just super negative for some reason.
Same. I mean i understand some reasons but some are just very subjective that i may disagree
Is it just me or have you guys realized the change from "...submit your own gaming related questions..." to "...submit your own questions..."
I have a question for Monday mailbox do you think they should add casual reworks like house and favela to undranked just to add some more playability to the maps and to switch up how the map could be played or what strats could be played on them?
The Game Devs dont truly care about the game trust me, every rework always comes with a draw back, just my opinion though.
The game died for me beacuse of the amount ddosers on console, when you reach plat the game really becomes unplayable. Thats why it doesnt matter what op they introduce or nerf/buff because at the end of the day i wont be able to play it.
What do you think about upping the clearance level for ranked to combat smurfing and multiple accounting
Yh i agree. It might suck for newer players but I'm lvl 316 and I constantly play with or against players that are mostly under lvl 60.
What do you think of Ubisoft adding in some of the abilities that we see in the Rainbow Six Siege cinematic trailers? For example the ability to swing around corners of the building while repelling or dragging downed friendlies into a safer spot to revive them.
The F2 isn’t even good anymore
*sad black ice noises*
As a console player I don’t have fun because of Ddoss or MNK that why I think the game is kind of dead
What do you think about an offensive operator that can launch a proximity impact grenade (similar range as a proximity alarm) with a 3 second activation time on impact? Could counter pepe roaming around
I havent played rainbow for about a year and a half and i just jumped on last week. Im having a blast
They keep changing the game to get more players, but ignoring veteran players.
I’ve played siege year one and stopped playing back in health and haven’t touched the game again until more than halfway through neon dawn. I started playing siege a lot again and a lot of my friends started playing siege that never played it before so I definitely don’t feel like siege is dying.
What do you think about twitch getting a buff were her drone is only destructible by explosives or able to shot for a brief window when she shocks something
What about a blackbeard rework where his shield is similar to the warthog gunner shield from halo with two pieces of shield covering either side of his weapon, but there is a gap in the centre. This would still allow him some cover from shots at an angle, but if you are looking directly at him you can still get the headshot if you are precise.
Because we kinda suck
It won't last long on console because in the higher tier ranks u only go against Mouse and key and ddosers thats it and ubisoft cares more about pc to fix the problem on console i took a break from siege after hitting diamond because I couldn't take it anymore I've been playing since the beginning during the alpha beta idk just sad to see the game the way it is. Sorry for the rant lol
I have nothing to say about the topics in the video, just here to say Matimi0 has some of the cleanest transitions between clips. Like montage level transitions for commentaries and stuff.
Question
What are your thoughts on bringing back the other modes in siege eg secure area and hostage I am really getting tired of bomb
People have been asking you the first question for 2 years already 😂