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As a blacc man this was hard to watch …it’s like your belittling him for NOT being apart of the ignorance instead of accepting the fact he’s shedding light on their alternative side …..you know damn well Jay and Von don’t have similarities so pressing that issue was nasty work
What he not wiling to touch on and stand on is that we dealing with outsiders creating content based on a culture they have understanding of Dj Akademics is an immigrant from Jamaica Trap Lore Ross is from England Poetic Flacco is from Africa 1090 Jake Adam22 ALL CULTURE VULTURES He's trying to be friends instead of checking the box and clearing the board freal
We gotta stop defending murder music and the people that self-incriminate themselves in it. We all know what go on with murder and the consequences, we just try to make it cool because we black and that’s WRONG.
@@24vii365 king von was a serial killer who terrorized the black community 😭😭 how u gon say Black Lives Matter then worship someone who specialized in the destruction of black people 😭😭
I’m a 34 year old black woman who grew up in the suburbs so maybe I know as much about the struggle as Mr. Trap Lore. Lol. And I really love Loon, but I think the culture of protecting criminals, particularly murderers, is extremely detrimental to the black community. Loon said being held accountable is the height of adulthood , so let these guys be held accountable by the law. The more we protect them, the more they will hurt ppl. Just my 2¢.
The problem comes in when you defend these vultures encroaching in our community. You never allow outsiders to come for your people, tell them to stay in their lane. This is an in house issue.
@@Nettamorphosis He's a clown right here. He's being disingenuous. Just say: I don't appreciate you sucking the blood from my culture. All that other stuff was ridiculous and dumb.
Ninja Loon lying & saying he running a mult-million dollar business just like Adam22 is 😂 , but even TrapLoreRoss even admitted to he himself not even running a Multimillion dollar business. & TLR’s RUclips Channel & Content on other platforms is 100% making multiple times more than Loon is making from his content. Loon barely even get views & if that’s the case when there isn’t many people willing to watch for free; then the ones willing to pay for his Patreon are WAY LOWER in numbers. & on the other hand I know TLR’s Patreon is JUMPING 🔥
Loons articulation was looney in the least and miscommunicated in the most. He wants clout points in short, for voicing something thats delusional and incomprehensible as street culture. When you attempt to package that as an innocent conversation, it's totally uninteresting and corny. Having a bias while hosting interviews is self sabotaging or self destructive. Both of which make for good content ironically 😂
I appreciate you Loon, for this interview. Some people might feel that you were hard on him, but you were doing nothing more than “GUARDING THE GATES”. If we had more gatekeepers in black culture, we wouldn’t have white people who took over country music to the extent that they really believe black people are wrong for making country music, same with rock music… Far too often, anyone and everyone has been allowed a space in black culture, when they didn’t deserve to be here, and all they wanted to do was appropriate/profit off of it, because people love, “Inviting people to the cookout”, then offer the outsider so much food that we’re left with scraps to eat for ourselves. All you’re trying to do is basically vet him, so that you know who he is, why he’s here, and what he wants. I absolutely can’t say enough how much I love this interview. I’m reminded of the quote, “They want our rhythm but they don’t want our blues.” ❤
Great comment 💖🙏💖. I’m white and love hip hop and I’m highly interested in black culture and I’m not sure why 🤷♂️ I just love it. I’m also a guitar player and was in metal bands for years. Metal music is mainly white but over the past few years, there’s been a hand full of black guys getting more into metal and now one of the goats of metal guitar is black (Animals As Leaders). Also, one of my favorite metal singers is black (Howard Jones) as well. I feel like if everyone adapts to each other with love, there will be no color and no more judgement.
Bruh just be yappin 😂 He will ask a question, get the answer & then re-ask the same exact question 10 more times but just with the smallest change for a hour straight & he’ll really do that & still expect a different answer 🤦🏾♂️
This is probably 1 of the most important interviews on the internet right now for our culture of people who are in the music industry. The subject of a rappers lyrics being held against them. Freedom of speech is real. The question is, are the things we choose to say real.
Loon sounds silly right now. We all know that Von was a stepper. If you don't appreciate Lore being a vulture, just say that. This was 3 and a half hours of Pure Foolishness. Im glad i checked out early.
What loon is saying is correct. To understand you have to have come from the streets and understand what's really going on in the entertainment business😂 in real life von says he's that if it where real he'd be in jail, what we don't see is the investigations from the stuff they say and the police finding out these rappers just talking shit and that's something you can't get convicted for, if yo hole crew gone lie on your rep to help you get over, make it seem more believable then you winnin until that shit catch up wit you. You can't mix entertainment business and street shit.
As a young black person growing up I'm glad that I live in south africa because black people in America got complex lives for example here if you snitch you snitched nothing happens but that side if you snitch you gotta die or be hated damn💀 And in south africa most communities actually promote snitching, basically telling everyone that if you don't do the right thing you will get caught for sure🙆🏾♂️
56:50 “& Of course, this is ALLEGED… Any time I’m speaking to a Yte Man , Ain’t nobody killed nobody 😂😂😭 NOBODY EVA KILLED NOBODY WHEN IM SPEAKING TO A YTE MAN” … Broooo 😭😭😭 lmfaoooo
Trap Lore has great knowledge of the evolution of hip hop and what genre led to another genre. Loon is lost. Von was a serial killer and bragged about it. The problem with our culture is that we glorify and sweep bullshit under the rug. I don’t think Loon is the goat of this shit because he’s close minded and out of touch. This ain’t the Lost Boy era.
There’s music and videos that came out of Louisiana that displayed guns and violence way before Chicago drill music started. West coast gangster rap was violent as well. Loon stop trying to defend Von..his own ops speak to how he was a killer
Not sure why he's pressing this guy. I'd like that same energy for a Vlad and Adam22 and maybe an Andrew Schulz. Who all seem to have know black guys but their takes aren't taking with the same level of disrespect.
As a 28 yo who was the same age as Chief keef when he came out in 2012 Trap Lore is right about drill being a branch off the the Gucci mane trap tree. In 2013 we were playing Gucci and Chicago drill interchangeably . Remember Gucci signed chief keef in 2013 and they had a mixtape called Big Gucci Sosa with 808 mafia beats and Metro Boomin and Lex Luger Mind you I’m from Jersey. You had to be around 15-16 to get it back then. Just pointing that out Loon 💯🔥
As a younger old mixed white black Hispanic Indian, I must agree with myself. If I were not, then I’d be an opp of the opps which I can’t as an older young alien. Trap Lore Ross and Loon are like me if I weren’t me arguing in my head about why I can’t be a can man. Right? Just kidding I’m randomly typing… 💖🙏💖.
Ross said he go look at crime scenes he saw on the news🤦♂️ that’s all I need to know … if he understood the culture like he think he’d know why making videos about alleged crimes would be frowned upon.
As someone that lived, survived, moved on and also as a child through it all did and still do music.. there is so much thats right, and so much thats wrong about this interaction.. i refer to it as an interaction because a conversation is hearing whilst trying to understand one another.. OG mean well though, Trap ain necessarily a bad guy either.. we can discuss 🤷🏾♂️
Loon, my brother I don’t agree with you man. Just because Trap Lore is from a different country and has a different background upbringing than us doesn’t mean that he can’t speak on these rappers who are plaguing our communities anyway. He speaks facts, first of all. What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained, but he’s a journalist. The same job like a reporter. He does his research and you have to respect it. He puts in the work that he speaks upon, so you can’t hate on that. Trap Lore keep doing your thing man, you are one of the best that this internet has ever seen and that’s because you put in the work. Hard work pays off. If it was a black man putt in g out the same content, yall would have something to say about that too, so does it really matter who speaks on what? Ijs..
He's a white dude from from an entirely different country where they have their own issues, so how did he find himself sticking his nose in the Black community's business in Amerikkka? Tell em focus on his own people. Stop defending these outsiders. This is an in-house issue.
Trap lore ross makes surface level propaganda, to reinforce negative stereotypes of indigenous people. He demonizes the rappers and ignores the record labels and executives that make it possible for the negative message to be spread. A journalist with respect for the culture, searching for the truth would have to touch on this aspect of the stories he tells. Instead he makes so-called black men out to be serial killers. Its not that he shouldn't be able to report on the topic, its the incomplete, biased reporting that ignores the exploitative corporate system facilitating the spread of negative messages, and focuses on the victims of the exploitation.
@@eishoot527 That don't matter, it still ain't his nor any of these outsiders business. They make money off of our community trauma and issues and then they act all self-righteous as if they really care when they don't, and they know they are wrong. They think that just because Black people cover these stories that they can when really it only makes sense for somebody black who actually understands the community to be covering these things. This white boy is doing nothing more than copying DJ Ak and demonizing our people.
@@eishoot527 That don't matter, it still ain't his nor any of these outsiders business. They make money off of our community trauma and issues and then they act all self-righteous as if they really care when they don't, and they know they are wrong. They think that just because Black people cover these stories that they can when really it only makes sense for somebody black who actually understands the community to be covering these things. This white boy is doing nothing more than copying DJ Ak and demonizing our people.
White guy from the uk, whos not even from london or a major city he from a small nice town so, him speaking on things like this will always rub people the wrong way
All them in Chicago was on Twitter trollin the opps jus cuz the say something bout somebody frm the otherside being killed doesnt mean they was responsible for taking their life bcuz that is the culture in Chicago thats jus wtf they do and have been doing .
You are talking too this man and he ain’t hearing it lol. It’s been clear the reason is because he’s on the outside looking in 😂😂. This what happen when you think you know but really have no clue. Keep talking my brother!!! ✊🏾
This interview sounded so racial and judgmental. Loon comments and discussion to this man about his likes and beliefs where absolutely wrong as a man to attack this guy like that.! I hate this for us as a black man. You gotta be more respectful to people in general and respect them for what they like. There’s nothing wrong with the content this guy creates. And to keep saying “white man” shows how disrespectful this discussion is.
That's the problem. A Black man does something you don't like and all of a sudden that's all he is? What about his childhood? What about his traumas? What about what led to him becoming who he was? You treat street brothas as if they are never remorseful and like doing what they do is all they wanna do, but let these other communities of men do what we do and far worse... and somehow the spotlight is still on us, smdh. Yall can't be taken seriously.
I could see some of your points, but they would’ve need to be worded better for the purpose of debate. It sounds super biased otherwise, but I understand. I think Trap Lore Ross was more prepared less involved emotionally so he kinda won this.
I watched 15 seconds of this and turned it off. TLR go get that money. They get mad when you show the world the same thing the people you cover try to. I guarantee this is 3 hrs 28 mins and 39 seconds of the host blaming the lifestyle of the people Ross talks about on everyone but the people Ross talks about. These are the people that read self help books and repeat what they read to sound smart.
According to my guy we can use Picasso’s art to describe his life’s journey/ lifestyle/everything about him as a person? Or did I miss his perspective? 🤔
ONE THING ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA & Podcasters ..Etc THEY ALWAYS THINK THEY KNOE THE FULL STORY OF ANY SITUATION .. When in reality it’s that’s person vs the other person word you can never know the real story of you never was there mama & papa taught us that
Dammm Loon. U got too emotional on this one dogg. Trap just doing his job. He just telling you from His lens. He aint wrong or right just his opinion and journalism.
Let's be honest, you've never seen a Demon. Jeffrey Dahmer was a Demon, The Nightstalker was a Demon, and so on. Von was human, he didn't do anything the military hasn't, so if he was evil, then they are too.
Everybody is obsessed with the criminal element of these entertainers including Loon. Also why do we associate that said criminal element with black culture.
This a 1 sided debate!!! You cant have a debate with someone and force your side of the opinion to be the only relevant opinion thats not a debate!! You cant make a person accept your narrative and adopt it just because thats what you feel is proper !!! This not a debate this is dawg tryna make trap feel the way he feel and trap opinion dont matter in dawg eyes.. and thats not how you debate!! You gotta let the opposing party speak and not cut en off when they not.sating what you wanna hear!! Great interview tho..just terrible debating skills!!!
What makes gossiping on or about people makes you a legend?And what do you think the private investigator think about the online investigator on stealing they jobs😂😂😂
They keep finding ways to make money off our pain and struggles and always find away to clean it up and we set back and give them passes but want do that for our brothers....is Crazy.....if you didn't grow up in that area you should not be speaking on it unless you know someone who lives there.
I agree with the entertainment part but there is a out of bounds and we should relay that more to our youth and ppl like this Dude would not be able to benefit from our culture
Tell Ross to do a documentary on all the girls in DMX song “what they want”, tell us about what they really wanted since he like to investigate rap lyrics!! Also tell me bout these Hoes ludacris and Nate was talking bout
Aye mane say mane, You was on his ass on so many points that it’s too many to count,but imma do my best to count em out on separate posts so my shit doing en up being a book😂
100k not money 😮 I feel like Loon making excuses and is very contradictory cuz on one hand he saying u can’t say for sure if bin had the funds then say it depends on his family comp then 100k not enough to move just to move but it’s enough to take a life
Whtz factz is dat him and #Durk changed each other lives #Von got rich and #Durk got richer even though da media act like him and #Guccimane responsible for their artists personal decisions 🤦🏾
Loon I mess wit ya content og but are we forgetting the smack dvd era, and Beef had its own outlet for expression, Guccis jus got publicized ecause of news coverage buh Beef has been getting grilled faeva
How does Loon Know that Von Was lying?? He don’t. So how can u tell trap that what von said he did was a lie?? He used information that was given to the public to make the documentary. He not wrong for that. KI own brother said he know Von killed his sister.
Loon makes more sense than 10 shows. On the same topic. Fam ya Platform is more piers than nore. Expand your guest to the real politicians. You too talented for banter that’s is culture based.
Next. I believe that he may have truly started off as an unbiased fan of the culture/hiphop, I believe in the mist of him finding his way/niche in this game/podcasting world the dollar and subsciber count/addition to changed his vision and made him into a culture vulture by default, because of his obsession/infatuation with OUR CULTURE.
Yeah but He was obsessed because if Von and his team threatened to take his channel behind the content and he still spin da RUclips block again after the fact 🤷🏾
Zimmerman was granted self defense which admits that he in fact did shoot Trayvon Martin. Von was never convicted or granted self defense in any murder case. He was acquitted due to insufficient evidence.
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What do you think about Ross's fascination with King Von's lyrics? Do you agree with Loon's perspective on cultural understanding?
You look like you 45 and you still talking bout what yu used to be smh pathetic
As a blacc man this was hard to watch …it’s like your belittling him for NOT being apart of the ignorance instead of accepting the fact he’s shedding light on their alternative side …..you know damn well Jay and Von don’t have similarities so pressing that issue was nasty work
What he not wiling to touch on and stand on is that we dealing with outsiders creating content based on a culture they have understanding of
Dj Akademics is an immigrant from Jamaica
Trap Lore Ross is from England
Poetic Flacco is from Africa
1090 Jake
Adam22
ALL CULTURE VULTURES
He's trying to be friends instead of checking the box and clearing the board freal
We gotta stop defending murder music and the people that self-incriminate themselves in it. We all know what go on with murder and the consequences, we just try to make it cool because we black and that’s WRONG.
Just for information purpose you would've been a house figga
This was some high level podcasting by Loon 💯💯💯
Got all the vultures mad 😂
He made himself look like a idiot.. 😂😂 dude didn't argue with no logic..
@@snowmontana2547 you sure did watch a 3hr episode and dive into the comments though ✌🏾
@@24vii365 king von was a serial killer who terrorized the black community 😭😭 how u gon say Black Lives Matter then worship someone who specialized in the destruction of black people 😭😭
I’ve watched several interviews of Trap Lore Ross getting pressed by the interviewer and I’ll say Loon has the best argument points I’ve heard
I’m a 34 year old black woman who grew up in the suburbs so maybe I know as much about the struggle as Mr. Trap Lore. Lol. And I really love Loon, but I think the culture of protecting criminals, particularly murderers, is extremely detrimental to the black community. Loon said being held accountable is the height of adulthood , so let these guys be held accountable by the law. The more we protect them, the more they will hurt ppl. Just my 2¢.
The problem comes in when you defend these vultures encroaching in our community. You never allow outsiders to come for your people, tell them to stay in their lane. This is an in house issue.
Loon is a clown and a buster for this. He made a fool of himself.
@@TheRealVerbalAbuser You's a lame tryna defend another lame.
@@TheRealVerbalAbuser he’s far from a clown. come on now. we can disagree without name calling. he’s a very insightful guy.
@@Nettamorphosis He's a clown right here. He's being disingenuous. Just say: I don't appreciate you sucking the blood from my culture. All that other stuff was ridiculous and dumb.
Ninja Loon lying & saying he running a mult-million dollar business just like Adam22 is 😂 , but even TrapLoreRoss even admitted to he himself not even running a Multimillion dollar business. & TLR’s RUclips Channel & Content on other platforms is 100% making multiple times more than Loon is making from his content. Loon barely even get views & if that’s the case when there isn’t many people willing to watch for free; then the ones willing to pay for his Patreon are WAY LOWER in numbers. & on the other hand I know TLR’s Patreon is JUMPING 🔥
Loon is way off. Ross was right!
Loons articulation was looney in the least and miscommunicated in the most.
He wants clout points in short, for voicing something thats delusional and incomprehensible as street culture. When you attempt to package that as an innocent conversation, it's totally uninteresting and corny. Having a bias while hosting interviews is self sabotaging or self destructive. Both of which make for good content ironically 😂
No he's not
U must be white
A Loon you should interview your friend Adam22 next.
@@primusrivers2592 facts
He already has done it ✌🏾
@@24vii365is it somewhere else other than RUclips?
I appreciate you Loon, for this interview. Some people might feel that you were hard on him, but you were doing nothing more than “GUARDING THE GATES”. If we had more gatekeepers in black culture, we wouldn’t have white people who took over country music to the extent that they really believe black people are wrong for making country music, same with rock music… Far too often, anyone and everyone has been allowed a space in black culture, when they didn’t deserve to be here, and all they wanted to do was appropriate/profit off of it, because people love, “Inviting people to the cookout”, then offer the outsider so much food that we’re left with scraps to eat for ourselves. All you’re trying to do is basically vet him, so that you know who he is, why he’s here, and what he wants. I absolutely can’t say enough how much I love this interview. I’m reminded of the quote, “They want our rhythm but they don’t want our blues.” ❤
Great comment 💖🙏💖. I’m white and love hip hop and I’m highly interested in black culture and I’m not sure why 🤷♂️ I just love it. I’m also a guitar player and was in metal bands for years. Metal music is mainly white but over the past few years, there’s been a hand full of black guys getting more into metal and now one of the goats of metal guitar is black (Animals As Leaders). Also, one of my favorite metal singers is black (Howard Jones) as well. I feel like if everyone adapts to each other with love, there will be no color and no more judgement.
@@joemorton9217 Well said!
Bruh just be yappin 😂 He will ask a question, get the answer & then re-ask the same exact question 10 more times but just with the smallest change for a hour straight & he’ll really do that & still expect a different answer 🤦🏾♂️
This is probably 1 of the most important interviews on the internet right now for our culture of people who are in the music industry. The subject of a rappers lyrics being held against them. Freedom of speech is real. The question is, are the things we choose to say real.
I like tlr perspective. He just studying his favorite artists.. you made me a fan. Respect.
i like the way you've branded yourself
Loon sounds silly right now. We all know that Von was a stepper. If you don't appreciate Lore being a vulture, just say that. This was 3 and a half hours of Pure Foolishness. Im glad i checked out early.
How you kno
@@Frontstreetbully5 The same way you know. Loon needs to sit down to talk about King Von with Charleston White. He'll put an end to the foolishness.
I agree… Loon did a TERRIBLE job on this one.. im trying to figure what he trying to prove
Loon said he doesn’t like talking about murders but TALKS about murder with THIS dude.. arguing with him for BELIEVING VON is ludicrous
What loon is saying is correct. To understand you have to have come from the streets and understand what's really going on in the entertainment business😂 in real life von says he's that if it where real he'd be in jail, what we don't see is the investigations from the stuff they say and the police finding out these rappers just talking shit and that's something you can't get convicted for, if yo hole crew gone lie on your rep to help you get over, make it seem more believable then you winnin until that shit catch up wit you. You can't mix entertainment business and street shit.
As a young black person growing up I'm glad that I live in south africa because black people in America got complex lives for example here if you snitch you snitched nothing happens but that side if you snitch you gotta die or be hated damn💀
And in south africa most communities actually promote snitching, basically telling everyone that if you don't do the right thing you will get caught for sure🙆🏾♂️
Its complicated yes. But alot of people make it harder than necessary. As a regular person that shit is nonsense!
That’s because yall police yall self and over here were being policed it’s a difference
Great discussion
I agree 💯 with loon on this one,trap lore don't get it and a lot of people don't 😢😢❤
56:50 “& Of course, this is ALLEGED… Any time I’m speaking to a Yte Man , Ain’t nobody killed nobody 😂😂😭 NOBODY EVA KILLED NOBODY WHEN IM SPEAKING TO A YTE MAN” … Broooo 😭😭😭 lmfaoooo
Trap Lore has great knowledge of the evolution of hip hop and what genre led to another genre. Loon is lost. Von was a serial killer and bragged about it. The problem with our culture is that we glorify and sweep bullshit under the rug. I don’t think Loon is the goat of this shit because he’s close minded and out of touch. This ain’t the Lost Boy era.
Loon...you really have a problem listening !!
U have no critical thinking skills
There’s music and videos that came out of Louisiana that displayed guns and violence way before Chicago drill music started. West coast gangster rap was violent as well. Loon stop trying to defend Von..his own ops speak to how he was a killer
Respect 🙏🏾
Crazy. Ac just got #1 pod
Not sure why he's pressing this guy. I'd like that same energy for a Vlad and Adam22 and maybe an Andrew Schulz. Who all seem to have know black guys but their takes aren't taking with the same level of disrespect.
Loon coming for them real questions this exactly how it shoulda been coulda even pressed him more❗️
As a 28 yo who was the same age as Chief keef when he came out in 2012 Trap Lore is right about drill being a branch off the the Gucci mane trap tree. In 2013 we were playing Gucci and Chicago drill interchangeably . Remember Gucci signed chief keef in 2013 and they had a mixtape called Big Gucci Sosa with 808 mafia beats and Metro Boomin and Lex Luger Mind you I’m from Jersey. You had to be around 15-16 to get it back then. Just pointing that out Loon 💯🔥
@@1beatsbytdot boosie
good content but why is this coming out so late?
As a younger old mixed white black Hispanic Indian, I must agree with myself. If I were not, then I’d be an opp of the opps which I can’t as an older young alien. Trap Lore Ross and Loon are like me if I weren’t me arguing in my head about why I can’t be a can man. Right? Just kidding I’m randomly typing… 💖🙏💖.
I’m black and I agree with trap lore Ross I don’t know why this guy tryna defend von so much even all his homies said he was real 😂😂
Damn only 12k views in 2 days something aint right smh the powers that be dont want to see this grow aint no way keep pushing Loon 🫡
@@iamsupakool that’s just this video we usually do 150 a weeek so it’s cool no issue. Thanks bro we are great and will keep bringing it
is this the same one from a year ago?
Ross said he go look at crime scenes he saw on the news🤦♂️ that’s all I need to know … if he understood the culture like he think he’d know why making videos about alleged crimes would be frowned upon.
As someone that lived, survived, moved on and also as a child through it all did and still do music.. there is so much thats right, and so much thats wrong about this interaction.. i refer to it as an interaction because a conversation is hearing whilst trying to understand one another.. OG mean well though, Trap ain necessarily a bad guy either.. we can discuss 🤷🏾♂️
This host horrendous takes all emotional and defending murder rap embarrassing to the community
Dude looks like #JuelzSantana wit dreads lol
Now I agree Da Bloggers these days more intrigued with Da Rappers Beef and Bodies than their artistry
He has a good viewer ship no matter what he talks about
Im sure Von had at least 5 million. Thats enough to move your whole family to Africa
Loon, my brother I don’t agree with you man. Just because Trap Lore is from a different country and has a different background upbringing than us doesn’t mean that he can’t speak on these rappers who are plaguing our communities anyway. He speaks facts, first of all. What’s understood doesn’t need to be explained, but he’s a journalist. The same job like a reporter. He does his research and you have to respect it. He puts in the work that he speaks upon, so you can’t hate on that. Trap Lore keep doing your thing man, you are one of the best that this internet has ever seen and that’s because you put in the work. Hard work pays off. If it was a black man putt in g out the same content, yall would have something to say about that too, so does it really matter who speaks on what? Ijs..
He's a white dude from from an entirely different country where they have their own issues, so how did he find himself sticking his nose in the Black community's business in Amerikkka? Tell em focus on his own people. Stop defending these outsiders. This is an in-house issue.
Trap lore ross makes surface level propaganda, to reinforce negative stereotypes of indigenous people. He demonizes the rappers and ignores the record labels and executives that make it possible for the negative message to be spread. A journalist with respect for the culture, searching for the truth would have to touch on this aspect of the stories he tells. Instead he makes so-called black men out to be serial killers. Its not that he shouldn't be able to report on the topic, its the incomplete, biased reporting that ignores the exploitative corporate system facilitating the spread of negative messages, and focuses on the victims of the exploitation.
@@ShadowMan23914 because the internet isn't local maybe
@@eishoot527 That don't matter, it still ain't his nor any of these outsiders business. They make money off of our community trauma and issues and then they act all self-righteous as if they really care when they don't, and they know they are wrong. They think that just because Black people cover these stories that they can when really it only makes sense for somebody black who actually understands the community to be covering these things. This white boy is doing nothing more than copying DJ Ak and demonizing our people.
@@eishoot527 That don't matter, it still ain't his nor any of these outsiders business. They make money off of our community trauma and issues and then they act all self-righteous as if they really care when they don't, and they know they are wrong. They think that just because Black people cover these stories that they can when really it only makes sense for somebody black who actually understands the community to be covering these things. This white boy is doing nothing more than copying DJ Ak and demonizing our people.
1:00 they both good storytellers about their life is what he saying big homie
White guy from the uk, whos not even from london or a major city he from a small nice town so, him speaking on things like this will always rub people the wrong way
All them in Chicago was on Twitter trollin the opps jus cuz the say something bout somebody frm the otherside being killed doesnt mean they was responsible for taking their life bcuz that is the culture in Chicago thats jus wtf they do and have been doing .
Now 1 thang fasho #KingVon and #JayZ both are good storytellers from the streets the difference is 1 was a Hustler and the other was a Gangsta
Loon has no idea what “Open Mindedness” means lol 😂 … You don’t have to be around something different to be Open Minded to it.
He definitely has been contacted by some type of law enforcement telling him they like his break downs it helps with there investigation.
I got a candy bar.... ya'll want some candy lol
F*** this.
Dude is a trouble Maker.
If he knows so much why did he Not do the fucking documentary
You are talking too this man and he ain’t hearing it lol. It’s been clear the reason is because he’s on the outside looking in 😂😂. This what happen when you think you know but really have no clue. Keep talking my brother!!! ✊🏾
This interview sounded so racial and judgmental. Loon comments and discussion to this man about his likes and beliefs where absolutely wrong as a man to attack this guy like that.! I hate this for us as a black man. You gotta be more respectful to people in general and respect them for what they like. There’s nothing wrong with the content this guy creates. And to keep saying “white man” shows how disrespectful this discussion is.
U new white blk ppl is everywhere
Von was what he was Loon there’s no understanding
That's the problem. A Black man does something you don't like and all of a sudden that's all he is? What about his childhood? What about his traumas? What about what led to him becoming who he was? You treat street brothas as if they are never remorseful and like doing what they do is all they wanna do, but let these other communities of men do what we do and far worse... and somehow the spotlight is still on us, smdh. Yall can't be taken seriously.
Trap reported on public knowledge information...
If we gone compare a OG to a BG I'll say Von should be compared to #SouljahSlim musically and from a Street perspective
Everybody knows what kind of person king von was he was exactly who you say he was a serial killer😮😮😮
I could see some of your points, but they would’ve need to be worded better for the purpose of debate. It sounds super biased otherwise, but I understand. I think Trap Lore Ross was more prepared less involved emotionally so he kinda won this.
Loon look and sounds crazy asf here
Why no videos on your local rappers huh what not interested enough?
25 years Plus how old his he?
Rappers rap out movie scripts and write them selves in the roles of the killers all the time, stories on the news etc
I watched 15 seconds of this and turned it off. TLR go get that money. They get mad when you show the world the same thing the people you cover try to. I guarantee this is 3 hrs 28 mins and 39 seconds of the host blaming the lifestyle of the people Ross talks about on everyone but the people Ross talks about. These are the people that read self help books and repeat what they read to sound smart.
If you wanted to do a conversation on culture vulture it would have came off better than what you did here
In that boy is cold with that let him do him
According to my guy we can use Picasso’s art to describe his life’s journey/ lifestyle/everything about him as a person? Or did I miss his perspective? 🤔
@@yahudahthelionking6190 if Picasso literally said that's what his paintings were about then yeah 😂
Ain’t this a rerun?
" I'm the VOICE of the Fans" - THIS GUY 🤡
Yall remember bout 2010-2016 when yall kept inviting people to the cookout? This is the result.
ONE THING ABOUT SOCIAL MEDIA & Podcasters ..Etc THEY ALWAYS THINK THEY KNOE THE FULL STORY OF ANY SITUATION .. When in reality it’s that’s person vs the other person word you can never know the real story of you never was there mama & papa taught us that
Dammm Loon. U got too emotional on this one dogg. Trap just doing his job. He just telling you from His lens. He aint wrong or right just his opinion and journalism.
Loon wtf u on
Poverty equal crime it's studies on this please go read a book
😂😂😂😂😂 loon tripping
How
Who gave you the co sign to where you felt that you could speak about us . Let alone hood stuff?Why do you feel so comfortable doing it?
You might want to let your guests finish answering your questions before you go in on them
Lets be honest, von was a demon
Let's be honest, you've never seen a Demon. Jeffrey Dahmer was a Demon, The Nightstalker was a Demon, and so on. Von was human, he didn't do anything the military hasn't, so if he was evil, then they are too.
let the man talk and make the point. he gets right to the edge and you stop him
He telling his stories from a fan point of view, not a journalist.Rap artist are not con artists Loon they characters 🤦🏿♂️
Everybody is obsessed with the criminal element of these entertainers including Loon. Also why do we associate that said criminal element with black culture.
This a 1 sided debate!!! You cant have a debate with someone and force your side of the opinion to be the only relevant opinion thats not a debate!! You cant make a person accept your narrative and adopt it just because thats what you feel is proper !!! This not a debate this is dawg tryna make trap feel the way he feel and trap opinion dont matter in dawg eyes.. and thats not how you debate!! You gotta let the opposing party speak and not cut en off when they not.sating what you wanna hear!! Great interview tho..just terrible debating skills!!!
What makes gossiping on or about people makes you a legend?And what do you think the private investigator think about the online investigator on stealing they jobs😂😂😂
Get the research dude on here
They keep finding ways to make money off our pain and struggles and always find away to clean it up and we set back and give them passes but want do that for our brothers....is Crazy.....if you didn't grow up in that area you should not be speaking on it unless you know someone who lives there.
I agree with the entertainment part but there is a out of bounds and we should relay that more to our youth and ppl like this Dude would not be able to benefit from our culture
Tell Ross to do a documentary on all the girls in DMX song “what they want”, tell us about what they really wanted since he like to investigate rap lyrics!! Also tell me bout these Hoes ludacris and Nate was talking bout
black hero wow.
Aye mane say mane,
You was on his ass on so many points that it’s too many to count,but imma do my best to count em out on separate posts so my shit doing en up being a book😂
Yea loon I can't agree with you on this my boy
This MFs are jokes. Defening von and getting emotional about it is lunacy. The reason why many are set back.
100k not money 😮 I feel like Loon making excuses and is very contradictory cuz on one hand he saying u can’t say for sure if bin had the funds then say it depends on his family comp then 100k not enough to move just to move but it’s enough to take a life
Whtz factz is dat him and #Durk changed each other lives #Von got rich and #Durk got richer even though da media act like him and #Guccimane responsible for their artists personal decisions 🤦🏾
I’m saying ain’t loon frm atl 🤔 wasn’t t.i.p and flip beefing
Man U r supposed to be interviewing TLR not debating him..
U always wanna argue.
Loom Von gave away hundreds of thousands of dollars and O block chain to his homies
Loon I love your content fam but this a little naive
Loon I mess wit ya content og but are we forgetting the smack dvd era, and Beef had its own outlet for expression, Guccis jus got publicized ecause of news coverage buh Beef has been getting grilled faeva
How does Loon Know that Von Was lying?? He don’t. So how can u tell trap that what von said he did was a lie?? He used information that was given to the public to make the documentary. He not wrong for that. KI own brother said he know Von killed his sister.
Loon makes more sense than 10 shows. On the same topic. Fam ya Platform is more piers than nore. Expand your guest to the real politicians. You too talented for banter that’s is culture based.
Von def had the means to leave the game
Trap lord should break down Donald Trump
That would be extremely boring and unsurprising,,,,,, I definitely would watch
Next. I believe that he may have truly started off as an unbiased fan of the culture/hiphop, I believe in the mist of him finding his way/niche in this game/podcasting world the dollar and subsciber count/addition to changed his vision and made him into a culture vulture by default, because of his obsession/infatuation with OUR CULTURE.
Yeah but He was obsessed because if Von and his team threatened to take his channel behind the content and he still spin da RUclips block again after the fact 🤷🏾
Salute 🫡 LOON 💯
George Zimmerman wasn't convicted either..
Zimmerman was granted self defense which admits that he in fact did shoot Trayvon Martin. Von was never convicted or granted self defense in any murder case. He was acquitted due to insufficient evidence.
@@BleedgreenwesZimmerman was a liar.