My Cheap Saab 9-5 gets NEW Subframe Bushings - Rattle FREE!
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- In today's episode, I replace the front rotted out rotors and the subframe bushings on my cheap Saab 9-5 Aero! I link all the tools and parts needed below for you to do at home! This job seems intimidating, but its really not terrible at all! I hope you enjoy. Please like, share, and subscribe!
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In these times of uncertainty, nothing is better than coming home after a long day and seeing a new Saab video :)
amen to that!! keep staying safe!
yes! Though not as involved as anything Kyle does, I started a Saab channel too! please check me out :)
yes love it
Soo true🥰
Easyest way to install these bushings is to cut them in half with a sharp knife so there is a top and a bottom lid like a sandwitch then you put the metal pipe through it and screw it in the installation goes 10x faster and no grease is needed done it on alot of cars and my own tips och tricks from sweden!
Just stumbled over this channel. As a Swede I feel proud of your car choice! Keep up the good woork.
Thank you!!
Same here, as a former SAAB employee and owner of two 9-5 wagons i have learned to actually work on these cars THX Kyle you make it look simple and not be afraid of doing the work. Keep it up
My 9-5 was recently in for a new clutch and downpipe and while it was in my garage replaced a couple of the bushes on the subframe because they were worn out. Made a noticeable difference to the front end and (just as nice) got rid of the annoying “clunk” I used to have when I was reversing. It’s amazing how something so small makes such a difference.
Your dedication to save 9-5 by all means is making me scared to own one! I do not have that strength of spirit. :( But, you are truly The Saaber! :)
Kyle, I strongly recommend doing a vacuum flush of the brake fluid (DOT 4). I did a trans & PS flush also. Great job. Keep Saabs alive. Maury
PS=powersteering?
Very happy to see that its possible to do without a lift and not removing the whole subframe, i will have the same struggle coming up soon. Very usefull Diy thank you!
Congratulations, admire your your patience and perseverance.
Thank you! 💪
You made it look so easy dude, good job!
Thank you
Anyone planning to do this job please note.... When I did mine, the rear bushings had a metal inner race, not plastic. They were sized in. I had to bend the lower part of the collar using a pry bar to help break the sized join. Then to remove I managed to fit a 27mm socket over the top, the same way you fit the new bushing, and jack up the subframe and the collar popped out. I did the same on the centre bushings which were in fact plastic, but my way was much quicker and easier than cutting or deforming them. I didnt drill or cut old bushings either, i put something solid between subframe and chassis and jacket a vertical bar up and it popped the inner bushings out.
Good music choices by the way ✌️
Just ordered a set for me 2002 9-5 aero. I already replaced all the engine mounts thinking that would take care of my rattle / drivetrain slop but it did not. Thank you for the helpful video.
This will do the trick! Good luck.
You’re a lot braver than I am for tackling that job. That’s one thing I would not do in my own garage, mostly because almost all my cars are SUVs. The last time I needed that done on one of my vehicles I paid a mechanic friend of mine to do it at his shop. He only charged me $125 to do all 4 corners, which I didn’t think was that bad a deal.
good deal for sure!! had to give it a crack! haha
Last icing on this cake would be proper alignment. That really can do miracles too
definitetly
You are not only brave, you are a very resourceful person. WOW, not a job for the faint at heart. You also have an understanding and cute wife. What makes my 5 speed 2003 9-3 cab buck and kick and turn on the engine light? Happy Motoring to both of you!!
Thank you kindly! She is certainly supportive! lol. Sounds like your DIC Cassette is going bad and causing a misfire
Hello Kyle,
I'm about to help a friend replace the sub-frame bushings on his 2006 9-3. Thank you for the video. I think we will be returning to this during the installation.
You can round the upper edges of the bushings just a little bit then they will go in easier...i did it on a 95 once
Cheers m8!
Due to this video I found the reason why my 9-3 Viggen is making that "klonk" sound when I (sometimes) beake hard or turn the wheels.
Been through everything else and was about to go (more) insane.
Thank you!
Nice to see that ppl care about Saabs still.
Great episode. Thanks for sharing and for your channel. Keep on saabing and see ya next time 👍
My favorit Saab channel, keep it up man 👍🏽
Thank you!!
Thanks for this video. Really expands on the Eeuro one. I didn't even have to drill one of my rears out, it was so bad I pulled the middle out by hand 😬
At last a good video how to do a saab 9-5 new Subframe bushings cos its very comon problem
So, I just completed this job yesterday. I was not able to fit my sawzall up into the space needed to cut the old bushings so I picked up a harbor freight air saw. It was $22 and worked absolutely great! Only about 10 inches long so it was easy to fit where I needed it. Now that I've got it all back together my rattles are gone and the car drives great. Except... now my alignment is off! No idea how I managed to do that.
Amazing!! Good job. Alignment issue's is normal as you just removed the frame from the car and essentially reinstalled it!
Dont forget to tighten them again later on if its start to clunk. It can start to clunk if the bolts are not full tighten! :)
Nicee thank you
Next time, you can take off all 6 bolts on the su frame, the steering bar will keep everything up. Nothing will fall. Just remove the lower engine mounts and you have enough space to work. Don't need to unscrew anithing else.
You don't need break clean spray for that,use a can of Acetone and some PAPER ROLL
7:00 start in the back. Loosening.
9:55 Front/Middle
12:45 Holesaw, back.
15:45 pop in Right middle
15:50 grease and pop in Right Back
16:15 Assembling/blurr
17:55 Talking
Hey, did he leave the metal rings from the old bushings in the subframe? I know someone else saw them and took it out.
Did you see the 2008 Turbo X for sale in Orlando for $2,995.00. I found it on Auto Tempest,
Hi Kyle . I don't understand why you put brake rotors change in video for bushings .
Greeting from Munich
Hi, cool idea. I just finished the replacement in my 9-5, by the way I replaced the rear engine cushion and torque rod bushing with polyurethane ones. After the replacement there was a vibration on the steering wheel when the engine is idling. Have you perhaps encountered a similar case?
I think PUR is too hard for an engine mount.
So, why do people take out the subframe bushes with a wholesaw and a reciprocating saw ....
Is it not easier to put a similarly sized socket and press it out using the jack method?
There a trick to replacing the whole subframe and getting to line back up
Not sure if you kept this car, but wondering how these bushings are holding up? Some people are saying these bushings don't last? I had always thought the blue poly parts were an upgrade, so I'm a bit confused by that.
I have them in my latest 04...still perfect after 4 years and 90k miles
@@KylePancis That's great to hear. Thank you!
So you were supportinng the engine with the jack?? Located where exactly? Nice Video. Need to do this with my 06
You did a great job there Kyle .. well done. Recently i've seen a guy from Poland i think it was, on youtube doing the same job. Installing the bushings took him about 6 minutes or less for each because he used a cheat method whereby he (using a very sharp hot blade) cut the powerflex bushing horizontally creating a top piece and a bottom piece both of which are effortless to place in the frame before adding the metal sleeve and fitting the bolt. Once all six were in position and hand tight he went back around and torqued them up to spec ..zero issues. What do you think? good idea?
to update what i wrote above ...the video i was referring to is "Saab 9-5 AERO Upgrade: Gearbox, Clutch, Bushings Part1" if you watch from minute 18 you will see what i mean about cutting the bush horizontally. take care
Any videos on how to find a power steering leak on a 95? Also does it matter what brand of bushings you get because I see some by powerflex that are more expensive.
i dont think brand is an issue. As far as power steering, the reservoir is on the passenger side. Follow the hoses! Sometimes the high pressure hose can fail so it will literally leak quickly or drip while car is running. Or can leak from the steering rack....if thats the case you have more work on your hands
Good video,
What is the deference on the job from a 03 linear, and is it the same bushing part number?
The question is, did you remove all the bushings or just the rubber part from the inside?
Awsome video ! What size of the holesaw are you using ??
You are driving one of the safest car ever made! But why are`t you using your seatbelts?
I do!! All the time haha. May have caught me just in the neighborhood......😬
hello, what did you drill into those old bushings, i understand that you had to break them and what about the old metal sleeve to stay inside?
Why would you replace the rotors without cleaning the surface of the wheel hub first? :O I Wouldn't dare to put up a new rotor on an oxidized surface.
Don't get me wrong, i admire your dedication and of course acknowledge your experience, i'm asking out of curiosity. Here it's emphasized as the most important part of the whole procedure, because it can mess up the new rotor.
I did take wire brush to everything...not sure if it was on camera or not. As far as pads, they were pretty much brand new. The rotors were messing up from sitting for so long being weathered. Thats the reason for the rotor change.
@@KylePancis Yes, i know the reason of the change and why you did not bother with the pads and i totally agree. But the cleanup was not on camera. (Or perhaps i missed it?) Anyway, thanks for the fast reply!
I was also wondering how the ride quality compares with poly bushes to the factory (brand new) ones? Aren't the polys much stiffer? Here we have quite bumpy roads and i'm not sure if i should do the bushings with poly or factory... I Also have an Aero, it's from 2005. Thanks for the howto video, may the Saab be with you :D
@@imrebalogh1951 love you car!! Lol
Poly is stiffer and will last longer. OEM bushings are complete crap. Stiffer won't effect ride since it's not related directly with suspension. But you will feel a tighter right on turns and such
@@KylePancis Thanks, i love it too! :P
Others have said that the subframe bushings are important, because if those are shot and everything is just wobbling around, the shock absorbers can't do their job properly and the ride can feel "loose" and jerky. I was just wondering, if they can affect the suspension the other way around as well, or they just need to be nice and tight to let the suspension do its job. Thank you very much for your input!
Good information on how you did it, but your fast forward process did not show all the stuff that went on, such as like where the bolts are located and where exactly the bushings are being replaced. SLOW DOWN!
Hey
I am planning to carry out the same fix on my 2008 95 estate. May I ask, in which order you removed the bolts holding up the subframe? Or did you remove all six of them and let the suspension hold the subframe ?
If you could point me in a direction I'd much appreciate it ! Thanks
Np! I started with the rears and worked my way forward. If you piece meal it like it did, just get bolts started and tighten at end so there is flexibility getting bushings in between subframe and car frame.
Good luck with everything.
Hey Kyle, there are 6 bushings - did you only do the middle and rear and ignore the front ones?
I did, easy to do those. However, I did check them and they were solid zero movement. So I left it since they typically do not go bad.
I have a 01 9-5 with a manual transmission and it makes a clacking noise when I go over bumps and release the clutch in 2nd gear. I've replaced the subframe bushings with the same poly ones as in the video, replaced both front control arms (with all new bushings), replaced the sway bar end links, both inner and outer tie rods and the torque mount (transmission mount) but it still makes the noise. It's actually getting worse. Does anyone have any idea what it could be? Maybe engine mounts? Or front struts? Sway bar? Thanks! Nice video by the way, the subframe bushings can definitely be a pain. I had to use a sawsall to cut the metal inserts out of the subframe, they didn't come out with the old bushings..
Check struts, swaybar bushings. Sometimes springs can make noise...or strut mounts go bad, check bushings at bottom of spring and strut mounts too
@@KylePancis Awesome! Will do, thanks!!
@@adamg9079 so any updates mate? Did you resolve your problem?
After seeing you fight to get the polyurethane bushings in, I might just stick with ye olde rubber bushings...
The music sucked until the 16:20 mark. Thanks for the video!
that 9 5 is almost perfectly rusted out
Can you fix mine pls
I have ordered my subframe bushings it’s been about 2 years now and I still can’t find a mechanic in my area who’s willing to do the work for me or even assist me in this work. :’((
Omg. Where do you live?
@@andber I live in Canada Montreal. XO
@@shakeemlanglois9408 omg, there should be someone.. Have you found any Montreal saab facebookgroup? Like a club or fan page..
@@andber i haven’t looked into Facebook for any Saab peoples but I will look into that asap! & fingers crossed I might have a mechanic convinced after I showed him a quick DIY video from Eeuroparts on RUclips!!
@@shakeemlanglois9408 I hope you get that help for your car. Please film it and give me the link.
Don’t you suppose to purchase new bolts with them subframe bushings
Yes, not a bad idea!
Ugghhh. I wish they never sold these things. They give you 6 b/c no one uses all 6 at first. There are 2 spares for when they crack in half, you can replace them and suffer the same fate. I joke, but the truth is even stranger. The front and rear bushings are the same, the middle are different. But the kit comes with 6 identical bushings. These 6 aren't designed to fit into the space of them middle bushing at all, despite the fact that they do. Once in, they are loose in the middle position, while the rear are tight.
Then, at least for me, they will squeak like crazy in the winter and be broken(split) when you go to relube them in the spring. I'm now looking for the original rubber bushings to put back in. YMMV, but be warned.
SO MY 2000 SAAB 93 SE HAS NO SUB FRAME BUSHINGS? IS IT HARD BOLTED IN BY THE CONTROL ARMS AND SHIT
I KNOW MY 08 9-5 HAD THE SETUP UR REPLACING IN THIS VIDEO THIS ONE SEEMS TO BE DIFFERENT
I spent $150 on mine. What a shit show LOOOOLLLLL
Lol...all good
Love my old Aero