Been hitting with both for 3 months: The differences: New one : Softer and more muted feel (lower RA and addition of flax in the layup), more polarized weight distribution with higher swingweight. Honestly, for just hitting for fun, the new one feels great (plusher feel) and satisfying. (easier power). However, for competitive play, when there is something on the line and you need a stick you can trust, the old PAVS takes the cake, for sure! I feel the ball way better and I can go for more precise targets with it. So I definitely get what Harry’s guest is saying by “the old one is more surgical”
What muscle mass is the correct one to use the aero 98? I weigh 52 kilos and they told me that this racket could hurt my shoulder. Is that true or do I just have to have good technique? I currently use 300g rackets
cant find VS specs on babolat but the specs listed on TW and other sources make it fairly clear that the new 98 is less stiff and has higher swing weight compared to the VS. Not sure why you think they are identical Harry
There difference between the two is the flex fibres at 3&9. A bit like Wilson PWS system, but not visually obvious. That machine that measures stiffness is interesting and literally backs up the verbiage from Babolat Marketing Director and his interview with TW back when they launched it. I've had many of both of these sticks and moved to the 98 purely because it was more stable to handle heavy balls, particularly on returns and volleys. They are the same racquet outside of those fibres and the spin grommets. The feel is more muted and stiffer/more stable (twistweight) and it was a welcome change when you're handling pacy balls. I found I didnt like RPM Blast until the 98 then I felt like it was the perfect string for the racquet (1.30/16).
Doe anyone know the difference between the regular pure aero (2023) and the pure aero 98 (2023)? yes i know the rackethead size and the weight, but what else? and what are the advantages? i am playing with the regular one now but might upgrade tot the 98. Can please someone help me out? :)
thanks to this video. i'm really shocked by the high ra of the racquet unlike what babolat advertised. May i ask u that feigure out pure strike vs 2022 stifness cuz they advertize it is soft. If it isn't soft, it must be a consumer deception obviously .
Is the VS or new 98 the same weight as the original PA? Or is the original PA heavier. My 2019 PA weighs 324 grams with Solinco 16L Hyper G and 4 3/8" grip with dampener and overgrip. Sometimes, I think it may be too heavy for me now? BTW the PA Plus, weighs approx. 10 grams more than the original PA I own one. Would like to take out the plus device to make it lighter.
@@onitrix1669Essentially the same as swingweight except that you rotate the racquet along a lengthwise axis. Wilson's famous PWS intends to increase twistweight by adding mass at 6 and 9 in order to increase stability on off centre shots.
I’ve been out of the game since 2018, my last racquets were pure drives 2019 started hitting with them again and could not stand them. Thinking about picking a pair of Aeros
In the 'olden days' VS natural gut was top of the line string. Watch old vids from the wooden racket era, you see the top players use VS strings (VS on the strings). VS was the brand name of the string, acronym for "Victory Sport". Thus the Babolat VS would assumably indicate "top of the line" for Babolat, a company that came to the scene first as a string manufacturer.
According to Babolat themselves, VS stands for "V Supérieur" with V being the version id for the elaboration method of their natural gut and superior because it was their highest quality grade.
All numbers are false :( You measure the rackets weight and swing weight WITHOUT REMOVING THE PLASTIC advertising paper in the head !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Maybe you should repeat that test because we are really interested on that comparison. Of course it would be really great if you include at least 4 rackets for VS and Pure Aero cause there is no consistency, think the +/- 7 grams rule.
I want to use an aero but, it gives me wrist and shoulder issues, would there be anything else I could try that’s softer but similar. I have tried the vcore and ezone but not to my liking.
@@prophetmargin7497 most pros arent using the brand new top of the line racket they are endorsing. Switching rackets is a major disruption in consistency, especially for a pro who has all timings and movements dialed in perfectly with a specific racket. So mostly the actual rackets pros use are just painted over several years older generation rackets. Or even entirely different molds and customized to a point, where its impossible to get hands on a similar racket through regular racket retailers. (racket manufacturers keep tabs on these via pro stock codes or something like that if im not mistaken)
Obviously a very different layup with such a large increase in swingweight in spite of lower static weight and lower balance point. Either that or Babolat's manufacturing is really all over the place. 😅
17:02 Welcome to Tennis Spin where bro-science rules. Add weight to the handle to reduce swingweight! Who knew!
giggity
this guy speaks so slow i always have to put in videos in 2x speed so he speaks normally
me too, lmao I had to put at 1.5x at least ....
True
Me too, and I’m not even a native speaker 😂😂😂 at least at 2x 🤣🤣🤣
Even when they hit balls 😄
Lol this is epic comment
Been hitting with both for 3 months: The differences: New one : Softer and more muted feel (lower RA and addition of flax in the layup), more polarized weight distribution with higher swingweight. Honestly, for just hitting for fun, the new one feels great (plusher feel) and satisfying. (easier power). However, for competitive play, when there is something on the line and you need a stick you can trust, the old PAVS takes the cake, for sure! I feel the ball way better and I can go for more precise targets with it. So I definitely get what Harry’s guest is saying by “the old one is more surgical”
What muscle mass is the correct one to use the aero 98? I weigh 52 kilos and they told me that this racket could hurt my shoulder. Is that true or do I just have to have good technique? I currently use 300g rackets
Its a lot chsnge from 300 to 305g?
Thanks. Ur comment just changed my mind to buy the old one
which is better pure aero 2018(yellow),head radical 2022,pure aero vs or pure aero 98?????
VS stiffness is 67 and the 98 is 65 . VS has spin grommets at 6 and 12 o'clock.
Which one better?
@@KingAwan369 I own both and they play the same.
cant find VS specs on babolat but the specs listed on TW and other sources make it fairly clear that the new 98 is less stiff and has higher swing weight compared to the VS. Not sure why you think they are identical Harry
There difference between the two is the flex fibres at 3&9. A bit like Wilson PWS system, but not visually obvious. That machine that measures stiffness is interesting and literally backs up the verbiage from Babolat Marketing Director and his interview with TW back when they launched it. I've had many of both of these sticks and moved to the 98 purely because it was more stable to handle heavy balls, particularly on returns and volleys. They are the same racquet outside of those fibres and the spin grommets. The feel is more muted and stiffer/more stable (twistweight) and it was a welcome change when you're handling pacy balls. I found I didnt like RPM Blast until the 98 then I felt like it was the perfect string for the racquet (1.30/16).
Why wouldn’t you take the placard out for swing weight. Surely placards cause resistance thru the air and would affect swing weight?
Yes but the comparison is between rackets that both have placards, so it is in other words controlled.
You don’t expect such things to be properly thought out on Tennis Spin. Harry is a shoot from the hip (and mouth) kinda guy.
So tenis spin its giving bad information?
Biggest difference to me is the bump in SW and a slightly more dampened feel. I like the old one.
What is sw?
Doe anyone know the difference between the regular pure aero (2023) and the pure aero 98 (2023)? yes i know the rackethead size and the weight, but what else? and what are the advantages?
i am playing with the regular one now but might upgrade tot the 98.
Can please someone help me out? :)
It would be nice if you could post a snapshot for your comparison chart!
Do you have any strings recommendations for the Aero 98?
Difference also in grommets‘ shape. VS much bigger grommets, therefore more string movement
thanks to this video. i'm really shocked by the high ra of the racquet unlike what babolat advertised. May i ask u that feigure out pure strike vs 2022 stifness cuz they advertize it is soft. If it isn't soft, it must be a consumer deception obviously .
Would be nice to check two Areo 98 and do the same thing..... I bet the difference is in the same range
do they use the same grommet? My pureaero 2023 98 grommet broke and have trouble finding a 2023 98 grommet will the vs grommet be compatible?
Is the VS or new 98 the same weight as the original PA? Or is the original PA heavier. My 2019 PA weighs 324 grams with Solinco 16L Hyper G and 4 3/8" grip with dampener and overgrip. Sometimes, I think it may be too heavy for me now? BTW the PA Plus, weighs approx. 10 grams more than the original PA I own one. Would like to take out the plus device to make it lighter.
From Tennis-warehouse twistweight are different : VS 14.6. 98. 15.4
What is twist weight?
@@onitrix1669Essentially the same as swingweight except that you rotate the racquet along a lengthwise axis.
Wilson's famous PWS intends to increase twistweight by adding mass at 6 and 9 in order to increase stability on off centre shots.
I wish you removed the cardboards, to make an accurate testing. Being there and doing that...
lower the swing-weight by adding weight to handle? Is it true?
No :D
Can’t lower swingweight by adding weight no matter where, that’s physics. Making it more headlight would only make you FEEL it’s easier to swing
These guys are talking shit very confidently.
Nope, it's impossible to lower the swingweight by adding weight. Simple physics. But you won't increase it by much, either.
I’ve been out of the game since 2018, my last racquets were pure drives 2019 started hitting with them again and could not stand them. Thinking about picking a pair of Aeros
which one is better
In the 'olden days' VS natural gut was top of the line string. Watch old vids from the wooden racket era, you see the top players use VS strings (VS on the strings). VS was the brand name of the string, acronym for "Victory Sport".
Thus the Babolat VS would assumably indicate "top of the line" for Babolat, a company that came to the scene first as a string manufacturer.
Versión speciale
According to Babolat themselves, VS stands for "V Supérieur" with V being the version id for the elaboration method of their natural gut and superior because it was their highest quality grade.
What string & tension would you recommend, Harry? Thanks in advance.
Hyper g string with 52 tension on the aero 98 🔥
@@xColter Thanks but with that RA it'll feel like barbwire.
All numbers are false :(
You measure the rackets weight and swing weight
WITHOUT REMOVING THE PLASTIC advertising paper in the head !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Maybe you should repeat that test because we are really interested on that comparison.
Of course it would be really great if you include at least 4 rackets for VS and Pure Aero cause there is no consistency, think the +/- 7 grams rule.
He is broadcasting abroad as well
Another informative video. Thanks.
I want to use an aero but, it gives me wrist and shoulder issues, would there be anything else I could try that’s softer but similar. I have tried the vcore and ezone but not to my liking.
Head Extreme Tour is more forgiving, softer but nice feel.
Fix the title
Aero 98 much better!+power+stability
That's what I'm thinking, but aren't Auger-Aliassime, Alcarez and Rudd actually all using the older Pure Aero 98, which isn't even available anymore?
@@prophetmargin7497 most pros arent using the brand new top of the line racket they are endorsing. Switching rackets is a major disruption in consistency, especially for a pro who has all timings and movements dialed in perfectly with a specific racket.
So mostly the actual rackets pros use are just painted over several years older generation rackets. Or even entirely different molds and customized to a point, where its impossible to get hands on a similar racket through regular racket retailers. (racket manufacturers keep tabs on these via pro stock codes or something like that if im not mistaken)
@@XxverhAUTxX I know, even though Federer is probably the one exception with the RF97!
Aero vs the best!!!!
The spin grommets are gone. Actually alcaraz does not use spin grommets anymore.
wym spin grommets
should i get the vs or 98??
Unstrung specs with plastic on handle and cardboard attached. Scientific 🤦
nice video.🎉
So they are different rackets 🤷♂️
Very minor
Obviously a very different layup with such a large increase in swingweight in spite of lower static weight and lower balance point.
Either that or Babolat's manufacturing is really all over the place. 😅
If you measure swingweight, put out the logo-plastic inside bro…
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