Hello beautiful people, this filming took months to plan and organise and I'm so happy with how it came out 🙏 Enjoy! Get a free list of my 100 favourite books - chriswillx.com/books/ Here's the timestamps: 00:00 Intro 03:20 BJJ Athletes Vs Special Forces Operators 09:55 Is it Possible to Take Too Much Responsibility? 15:33 Jordan Peterson 26:10 Revisiting the ‘Good’ Video 32:29 Do People Overcomplicate Motivation & Courage? 39:40 Learning How to Fight Properly 45:26 Mental Health Treatment in America 51:48 Being a Husband & Father 1:04:15 Processing Grief & Heartbreak 1:11:29 Why Jocko Writes Kids Books 1:31:53 How Surfing Impacted Jocko 1:38:05 Keeping in Mind the Shortness of Life 1:46:51 Life as an ex-Navy SEAL 1:52:25 Problems of Fame & Being Recognised 2:01:45 Would Jocko Run for Office? 2:07:24 No Solutions, Only Trade-Offs 2:11:31 Does Jocko Plan for Long-Term? 2:15:09 What Jocko Sacrifices for Success 2:32:39 Where to Find Jocko
Wait.. YOU didn’t have friends & think you have a sprinkle of autism? Thanks for sharing. As someone who’s concerned I may have a dab of autism in me, it’s comforting.
Did this country ever really have the _ability_ to *treat* patients with mental health issues? By the numbers, we had the capacity, but was anything effective? Are there modern treatments that are effective ? I have my doubts about the ability to genuinely *help* people who have issues. Treat them, sure, but help them... I have doubts.
@@raifsevrence we are all wired different, and the "measures of values" that have been superimposed onto reality without our collective informed consent
How I wish I had heard such voices when I was a much younger man. Almost 60 now, however I have still benefited greatly from listening here, as well as many times listening to Andrew Huberman. I can’t help but contemplate the butterfly effect, as I first heard each of you and many other now very influential voices, on JRE. Many thanks to you all, my life is much richer for having listened 👍
"Everyday you don't do work you're going backwards." The best line in the whole podcast. Jocko has a way of cutting right to the point -- he's a leadership surgeon!
@@r4nowoProgress brings more happiness and joy and stagnation/regression leads to a lot of pain and regret that feels like hell especially when you start measuring potentially who you would have become.
ok go do it then nobody cares what other people do , we all know that doesnt bring happiness because most of us have lived that already , chasing instant gratification and comfort is always short lived and leads to extreme depression. the people who are stuck laying in bed all day or stuck at a job they dont like is because they chased the fun, trust me if you have fun all day everyday eventually it wont be fun anymore and you wont have any ability to change it and everything you need to do is gonna be even harder then it would've been finding happiness in the work is the only way you'll find peace and happiness in life, this is the exact reason millionaires become depressed, because they get the money then quit working hard and chase the comfort then ignore what needs to be done , this is why people say money doesnt buy happiness , most people have it backwards once you start buying happiness, happiness becomes cheap , you have to earn it @@r4nowo
Jocko's take on bullying reminds me of my granddad, back when I was bullied by kids 6 years older than I, in neighbourhood, he trained me and even after that I was a scrawny 9 year old and wasnt up for it, then he told me that its not just about winning or loosing the fight, but make it expensive for the opponent to ever come at you, instil fear they will not dare to come at you ever again like they used to, and well I was beaten to crap there were 2 of them, but they received so much damage, they and the entire neighbourhood respected me.
Wait, so you're saying that you as a 9 year old made it more trouble than it was worth to 15 year old bullies? Holy shit, that's actually astounding. Much love and respect. Gigachad.
There was an a-hole in my school who was somewhat of a bully, but more than that he just was a rebel. One thing I remember him for is him telling us- when someone wants to fight you, never be scared. Show them backside and get whooped if necessary, but show them you’re not afraid of taking a beating. Though I favour de-escalation in front of confrontation unless absolutely necessary.
I made it to 30 without ever getting into a fight. I started out life bullied by an older sister. I was bullied, and I became a bully. I was fortunate though. I realized it, so I stopped that cycle, at least with me. Anyway, I went from bullied, to bully, to bullied, to unbulliable. By 8-9th grade, I was shutting down older and bigger kids trying to bully innocents. Never had to fight tho. I dunno. I reckon maybe I was a coward up until I realized that I was. Since that epiphany, I've been the scary one. But hopefully only to the one's who've earned it.
I think that’s the issue with most of these self help podcast like Tim Ferris or Tom Bilyeu is that they turn it into like a 2hr interview asking similar questions of what are the keys to success, books that change your life, morning routine, etc , to which someone like Jocko answered countless times. Still enjoyable but kinda repetitive
@@thunderdrake13 Yeah he seems like he's sick of answering the same questions. Felt that strongly on Lex Fridman's podcast when he was asking him what it's like to kill someone. Jocko was noticeably sick of it in my opinion.
@@ed7590 Sam Harris, Eric Weinstein, Lex Fridman. Jocko doesn't seem to get along with these academic types all too well; there's this lingering tension in the air you can feel on each of their podcasts when Jocko's been on (Sam's episode was deleted, he's deleted a bunch of older podcast episodes), which occasionally becomes explicit and noticeable. Might be how they talk, might be their demeanour, but whatever it is, something about them just rubs him the wrong way.
The guest having such nice sound quality in the in person interviews compared to the online interviews makes it so much nicer and more relaxing to listen to
I laughed so hard at that whilst listening in the car! And when Chris segued in his experience with 'Love Island' after Jocko described the difficulty of BUD/S was GOLDEN! 😅😅
Jocko willink is a very valuable man. We need men like him in more positions of power. Politics especially. Men that represents true discipline and have real experience in war and violence. The perfect man to lead negotiations with other countries.
This is a high quality podcast. Lighting, sound quality and the camera changing is just the best that I’ve seen on RUclips. You were very well prepared to talk to Jocko. Thanks man, I appreciate the work that you’ve done! 👊🏽
Chris man. Excellent podcast. A high bar to clear for a man with a very high bar to start with. I relate to you more with each podcast. Quick story: I grew up in a bad situation and was poorly socialized and maybe a little autistic. I got bullied more than anyone should, but my dad put me in a taekwondo class. Kinda useless, but got me interested. Because now, I could defend myself from grade school bullies, kinda. Fast forward to high school. I had decided to study kickboxing and judo. Seemed like a good overall combination. Turns out it is. I went to high school in the 90's and I was the only person with a laptop. You see, I was a computer nerd publicly when that was not cool. Got me rigorously bullied. But by high school, I had a reputation. I wasn't very big (5'10'' 185lbs), but I know how to win a fight. Bullies still had the gall to fight me, but they had to work together to stand a chance. Still, I had been lifting progressively heavier weights since I was small (5 years old, started with 5 pounds) so I was immensely strong. That carries over into my young adulthood. Because I am strong, I typically worked in construction (framing, flooring) and also as a mechanic. Now 40, I am struggling to deal with the myriad injuries I've collected over my career. Yet, I have made it here so I will make it further. My biggest troubles are existential (obviously), and managing my pain and energy levels. Heh, that got long quick. I said all that in order to say this: You have reignited a fire within me. Reminded me that who I used to be is still who I essentially am. Older and more tired for sure, but I am still the only hero in my story. A rugged fighter who will push with all my strength until there is no more. Even though I know that day will come, it is not today. Know that you are a profound inspiration to me and that I really appreciate what you do. Thanks for reading. -Alex
In a short bit of understanding on my part- you keep going ,and then you keep going,finding a way,either through obstacles,over,under,around them till we literally can't because we give up the Spirit,or rather,God/ Jesus says it's time to go!!👍💯❤️🕊️
I can agree with the point that motivation is not what’s necessary to do things. I am constantly battling thoughts of negativity. For years, I struggled with obsessive compulsive disorder where I was getting really disturbing intrusive thoughts. I finally accepted that those thoughts were pretty much always going to be there, and I was going to actively choose to make the best decisions for my future, despite those thoughts being in the background. I also realize that this is actually a normal part of the human experience, there isn’t a human walking around that isn’t distracted by their thoughts. Once I realized this was just a normal part of being human, it gave me the power to live the life I want.
Know what you mean Emily. When I'm lazing about I sometimes imagine Jocko coming to my door threatening to kick my ass. It's a motivator to get moving! Cheers.
People get the word " motivation" mixed up with "inspiration". Motivation is what I feel when im on a roll. When my actions are leading to something❤ that momentum generates my motivation
Funny thing is, he'd probably not do much. He certainly can easily replace anything stolen, and as such he knows the risk/reward lays too heavily in the risk column for him. I suspect he wouldn't react beyond securing his family. 🤷🏻♂️ Just my opinion thought
‘Good’ literally saved my life. Trying to resist what has already happened is a 1000% waste of time. And as Jung said “what you resist will persist” it’s true.
Just after 1 hour when you began talking about emotions when facing the loss of a loved one......hit home. My little brother was taken in a bike wreck. Been a decade & I still feel bouts of rage & sadness.
I like how you always do a good amount of background research before the interview, it shows how dedicated you are to learning about others, in tandem with arming yourself with new knowledge--which is clearly reflected in your enhanced interviewing skills over the months. Nicely done and thank you Chris! This conversation made my work day fly by really fast.
1:40:41 “Definitely makes you appreciate the sunsets more”. I could be misinterpreting it, but I’ve never seen so much pain in Jocko’s face. His sincerity in that moment is heartbreakingly beautiful.
Brilliant, Brilliant podcast. Jocko delivers honest and real information. Its applicable to all ages, all situations we might encounter. His take on grief and death is simply spot on
Self discipline but without motivation leads to burn-out. Both are important. I've found I need to actively cultivate that "motivated/ hungry/ flow-state" otherwise just forcing myself to do things eventually leads to burn-out. I can push through in the short term on days I'm not feeling motivated, but long-term motivation is essential.
Incredible dichotomy here. A very similar thing can happen when you're chocked full of motivation but lack self discipline. You can only go so far on just motivation without burning out as well. Without discipline, those days where you don't have as much motivation are gonna be extra hard.
Meditation is the key that brought me back to the NOW and gave me a very deep meaning of myself and as well as a way to quietly work through unprocessed trama all the way back to childhood. The medicine I needed was within me from the beginning, but I didn't take it. NOW that I am taking it every morning I start my day with a peaceful resolve and gain an incredible insight into the art of processing and letting go of trama all to come back to a place of serenity, positivity and peace in the NOW..... ! It has taken six months to this threshold of a golden peace and light and I look forward to having only one mind. Too many minds got my butt in serious trouble. Beca complete Warrior and integrate meditation. It is better to be a Warrior in the garden than a Gardner in war. Thanks for posting. Resilience and peace to all! God bless America!
In the sea of endless podcasts these days, its refreshing to listen to you talk to great guests, and ask interesting and engaging questions. Great stuff.
1. There are things we can control in life and things we can’t. 2. Bad things happen to good people. 3. Despite all our good planning, bad things can hit us like a meteor out of the sky. 4. Then we have to choose our attitude & response. 5. Proactive & Reactive. 6. Is the concept of “Trade-offs” synonymous with “Choice”? 7. Where do foundational core beliefs fit in?
I really like how this guy does interviews. He just seeks understanding and doesn't try to incorporate any political bullshit which creates division between people.
Something that immediately popped to mind on the conversation of structure vs. creativity is great Chess players. If you look at Magnus Carlsen or Hikaru, they know lines, they know strategy and what to do in different situations but they're also able to think outside the box. Once you get to a certain level, everyone knows the same strategy, the same answers, so what separates the truly great ones from people that are just very good is that added ability. In saying that, the structure is still necessary because without that knowledge and those fundamentals you wouldn't get to the level where that becomes a part of the conversation.
02:18:30 once you figure out how to never do something you don't wanna do, you realize you are respecting yourself more and are seeing more of your value. Especially and I'd say mostly if you're using your time wisely or doing something that serves your life.
15:12 I think a good distinction would be that taking responsibility is about solving the problem and taking ownership is about taking blame. As far as the argument is concerned, you can never take enough responsibility because you have far more agency and power than you realize. But you can definitely take too much ownership because not everything is your fault.
7:20 Jocko nails what Hackworth said about draftees. Lead into 7:40 and Jocko nailing how to win half the battle, knowing yourself (honestly and humbly), at least according to Sun Tzu.
I had a stroke and two subsequent hospitalizations due to brain scar and fits. I fought through that and it changed me. I don’t worry about little stuff any longer. My brain feels free. No more holding on to imagined dragons and phantoms.
This interview is beautiful. Jocko has loss of friends in those wrinkles around his eyes. He is not into drinking. Also revealing in his maturity & gained wisdom. A Dunkin /TimHortons toast to these gentlemen.
Chris’ thoughts on your darker self being the flip side of your best self was so interesting to me. It makes me wonder about looking at your past self with shame versus being grateful for the past lives you’ve lived. It can be very difficult to let go of the disappointment of what you used to think/do. I think if you feel ashamed of something it’s an indication of you knowing better, knowing what is good. 💭💭💭
Fantastic interview Chris! One of your best yet. Have watched Jocko for years and the thought and research you undoubtedly did with your question formulation was second to none. Hope you guys meet again!
I think Jocko is underestimating how fucking lucky he found his diamond that is his wife. The sheer luck is the equivalent is like finding a fist sized diamond in a mine field.
Yeah. Some mentor gave him the heads up, " not the looks, the personality, the values, check out her family." But yeah, it was a good roll of the dice, too.
you cant motivate negative to change but negative people demotivate the motivated i just wish this was mainstream education 20 yrs ago. it just inspires me to make content
Lift weights, do jujitsu, go for runs, stretch out, eat good, stop drinking. Fuck. Literally wasn't doing any of these things this week! Love this show.
Thanks Chris, great interview, exactly what I was expecting based on the video title and a strong person like Jocko. Thanks for spreading the message of mental toughness through this. Keep up the great work!!
There is definitely some lows early on in the interview. But that is classic Jocko being short to the point for those topics. Outside that it starts to shine later on and is a very good listen overall.
Aye it’s like Jocko had no time for Chris’ intellectualised questions. Think by the end Chris stops trying to show Jocko how smart he is and starts asking decent questions and it comes together nicely
@@johnkrstyen7351 True. it’s super interesting how Jocko refers to this sticking to a plan vs being adaptable in this conversation. Some lessons in there. Hard for Chris, he obviously put in lots of prep thinking of good thoughtful questions in advance. Shame they didn’t stick. Chris just needs to be a bit more adaptable to the moment. Anyway huge fan so keep pushing Chris!
My Nana, who was a child during the depression, and a young woman during World War II, always used to say that if you have to swear when you are speaking, you are not thinking when you are speaking. And if you are not thinking when you are speaking, you probably shouldn’t be speaking. I have always found that good advice in most situations. I understand that there are situations where it applies, but generally to me it’s just laziness.
Chris, you have a way of taking your guests into territories of very deep conversation that not many other podcasters do. You get them to think very deeply about their answers, this often divulges a different side to their personality than that which is usually seen in the public domain. It's an admirable skill. I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel, keep up the great work!! 🚀💥 Ps: I'm a huge Jocko fan, great episode!! 🙏
For me: Discipline and creativity, two traits you must find the balance for. Because too much discipline will restrain your creativity. Motivation is overcomplicating. Motivation is the ability to do what you have to do whatever situation and state you are in. There's no magical state you must be in to do it. Courage can't be faked, neither can motivation. Grief is neurologically extremely similar to break ups. Losing someone close is like being put in an emotional storm that blows you away from time to time and you have no control over. It simply improves over time. The best you can do in a relationship that's not working out is wish them good luck, walk away and don't look back. If a memory still affects you, write it down. Being able to defend yourself physically is s superpower. Every skill worth mastering in this life, takes tons of time and practice
Chris’ example at 12:20 shows a lack of ownership when it comes to expectations. He expects a great result from something he can’t control, instead of asking the best question possible and letting the chips fall where they may.
Been hanging for this to come out and it did not disappoint. If anything it's better than expected. Chris is getting better and better at interviewing every episode it seems.
To put it simply, people who are on a path to finding real truth, will eventually converge and run parallel in many many thoughts, ideals, principals, morals, ethics, independence, desire for actual liberty, etc. etc.
Chris, I've been listening to you since Jordan Peterson. You ask great questions, carry yourself well. I thought this was good but you seem to be telling more of your stories and your understanding instead of asking questions of the other person being the focus. (I'm personally not great at this, myself). As you continue to grow in this, please keep it others aimed. Thanks again for what you do. I really enjoy your interviews & helpful insight!
These guys always come off to me as the jackpots of outcome. Sure they're disciplined. So is almost everyone I know. People do well when they can. Until we do more as a society to address equal opportunity, most of these points are moot. These guys have better options and got lucky. The rest of us do our best, smile, nod, and eat shit.
18:32 Because we've adapted the mindset that we need to work for things. We need to put in the effort if we want to win in life. We gotta take responsibility and prove ourselves. Or to put it frankly: I won't allow myself this certain experience of joy and contentment until I've done this certain thing. Now that's all good and true, but if you really think about it, why you want to achieve success or win at all is because you're aiming for what you deem the easiest and most reliable way to feeling joy. All our actions and choices reflect our desire for happiness. Wether it's family, career, personal ambitions, a hobby etc. We do what we enjoy, and strive for more of that enjoyment. But, and this is where we're making a fatal mistake, we think we need to do or achieve certain things to get that happiness. While in reality we limit our happiness to certain things depending on our personality. Things don't bring joy or misery, you react to things with joy or misery. Albeit mostly unconscious and out of your control. But that's because we never learn to take control. Man, I could write another 10 paragraphs on this but I'm spending too much time repeating myself in youtube comments in an attempt to share some of my knowledge lol
Hello beautiful people, this filming took months to plan and organise and I'm so happy with how it came out 🙏 Enjoy! Get a free list of my 100 favourite books - chriswillx.com/books/ Here's the timestamps:
00:00 Intro
03:20 BJJ Athletes Vs Special Forces Operators
09:55 Is it Possible to Take Too Much Responsibility?
15:33 Jordan Peterson
26:10 Revisiting the ‘Good’ Video
32:29 Do People Overcomplicate Motivation & Courage?
39:40 Learning How to Fight Properly
45:26 Mental Health Treatment in America
51:48 Being a Husband & Father
1:04:15 Processing Grief & Heartbreak
1:11:29 Why Jocko Writes Kids Books
1:31:53 How Surfing Impacted Jocko
1:38:05 Keeping in Mind the Shortness of Life
1:46:51 Life as an ex-Navy SEAL
1:52:25 Problems of Fame & Being Recognised
2:01:45 Would Jocko Run for Office?
2:07:24 No Solutions, Only Trade-Offs
2:11:31 Does Jocko Plan for Long-Term?
2:15:09 What Jocko Sacrifices for Success
2:32:39 Where to Find Jocko
Thanks Chris! Only a few mins in but can tell it’s a good one, with Jocko being on form
As always, thank you for the timestamps
Wait.. YOU didn’t have friends & think you have a sprinkle of autism?
Thanks for sharing. As someone who’s concerned I may have a dab of autism in me, it’s comforting.
What’s the time stamp where Jocko starts actually sounding like he wants to have a conversation and stops needlessly shutting Chris down.
@@johnfraser5462 ay his mind has gone a bit soupy, innit.
A gem of a conversation. Thank you gentleman for recording this for all to hear and learn.
And thank you for being the gem of reason that you are. You are quite literally a gentleman and a scholar, non ironically.
Thank you mate. Appreciate you!
Did this country ever really have the _ability_ to *treat* patients with mental health issues? By the numbers, we had the capacity, but was anything effective?
Are there modern treatments that are effective ?
I have my doubts about the ability to genuinely *help* people who have issues.
Treat them, sure, but help them... I have doubts.
@@raifsevrence we are all wired different, and the "measures of values" that have been superimposed onto reality without our collective informed consent
How I wish I had heard such voices when I was a much younger man. Almost 60 now, however I have still benefited greatly from listening here, as well as many times listening to Andrew Huberman.
I can’t help but contemplate the butterfly effect, as I first heard each of you and many other now very influential voices, on JRE.
Many thanks to you all, my life is much richer for having listened 👍
"Everyday you don't do work you're going backwards." The best line in the whole podcast. Jocko has a way of cutting right to the point -- he's a leadership surgeon!
Whats the point in working and moving forwards though. What is the end goal. Seems utterly pointless, why not be happy in the now instead
@@r4nowoProgress brings more happiness and joy and stagnation/regression leads to a lot of pain and regret that feels like hell especially when you start measuring potentially who you would have become.
Time stamp?
ok go do it then nobody cares what other people do , we all know that doesnt bring happiness because most of us have lived that already , chasing instant gratification and comfort is always short lived and leads to extreme depression. the people who are stuck laying in bed all day or stuck at a job they dont like is because they chased the fun, trust me if you have fun all day everyday eventually it wont be fun anymore and you wont have any ability to change it and everything you need to do is gonna be even harder then it would've been finding happiness in the work is the only way you'll find peace and happiness in life, this is the exact reason millionaires become depressed, because they get the money then quit working hard and chase the comfort then ignore what needs to be done , this is why people say money doesnt buy happiness , most people have it backwards once you start buying happiness, happiness becomes cheap , you have to earn it @@r4nowo
Jocko's take on bullying reminds me of my granddad, back when I was bullied by kids 6 years older than I, in neighbourhood, he trained me and even after that I was a scrawny 9 year old and wasnt up for it, then he told me that its not just about winning or loosing the fight, but make it expensive for the opponent to ever come at you, instil fear they will not dare to come at you ever again like they used to, and well I was beaten to crap there were 2 of them, but they received so much damage, they and the entire neighbourhood respected me.
Cool story. City or rural living?
I highly recommend his warrior kid books. Reading it our 8 year old now.
Wait, so you're saying that you as a 9 year old made it more trouble than it was worth to 15 year old bullies? Holy shit, that's actually astounding. Much love and respect. Gigachad.
There was an a-hole in my
school who was somewhat of a bully, but more than that he just was a rebel. One thing I remember him for is him telling us- when someone wants to fight you, never be scared. Show them backside and get whooped if necessary, but show them you’re not afraid of taking a beating.
Though I favour de-escalation in front of confrontation unless absolutely necessary.
I made it to 30 without ever getting into a fight. I started out life bullied by an older sister. I was bullied, and I became a bully. I was fortunate though. I realized it, so I stopped that cycle, at least with me. Anyway, I went from bullied, to bully, to bullied, to unbulliable. By 8-9th grade, I was shutting down older and bigger kids trying to bully innocents. Never had to fight tho. I dunno. I reckon maybe I was a coward up until I realized that I was. Since that epiphany, I've been the scary one. But hopefully only to the one's who've earned it.
Jocko, by his own admission, is not always easy to interview. This was fantastic. Great work Chris, well done
I think that’s the issue with most of these self help podcast like Tim Ferris or Tom Bilyeu is that they turn it into like a 2hr interview asking similar questions of what are the keys to success, books that change your life, morning routine, etc , to which someone like Jocko answered countless times. Still enjoyable but kinda repetitive
@@thunderdrake13 Yeah he seems like he's sick of answering the same questions. Felt that strongly on Lex Fridman's podcast when he was asking him what it's like to kill someone. Jocko was noticeably sick of it in my opinion.
The one with lex was a good example of that lol
Great interview, but was thinking the same thing. Chris rolls with it which is awesome
@@ed7590 Sam Harris, Eric Weinstein, Lex Fridman. Jocko doesn't seem to get along with these academic types all too well; there's this lingering tension in the air you can feel on each of their podcasts when Jocko's been on (Sam's episode was deleted, he's deleted a bunch of older podcast episodes), which occasionally becomes explicit and noticeable. Might be how they talk, might be their demeanour, but whatever it is, something about them just rubs him the wrong way.
The guest having such nice sound quality in the in person interviews compared to the online interviews makes it so much nicer and more relaxing to listen to
I agree
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Yes.
@@STUCASHX Good.
Yes
Dude , jocko saying “I agree” after the story about Zeno being very succinct in his daily speech made me laugh my ass off
And then he does it again!
its so funny when he asks these long thought out questions and jock is just like yeah tru lol
Priceless. I agree.
I laughed so hard at that whilst listening in the car! And when Chris segued in his experience with 'Love Island' after Jocko described the difficulty of BUD/S was GOLDEN! 😅😅
It’s a bit lame that he felt the need to explain it though.
Jocko willink is a very valuable man. We need men like him in more positions of power. Politics especially. Men that represents true discipline and have real experience in war and violence. The perfect man to lead negotiations with other countries.
Agreed
This conversation has zero fat on it. No words spoken that weren't purposeful. Love it.
This is a high quality podcast. Lighting, sound quality and the camera changing is just the best that I’ve seen on RUclips. You were very well prepared to talk to Jocko. Thanks man, I appreciate the work that you’ve done! 👊🏽
I can feel jockos voice through my cars subwoofer
I hope people don't overlook what Jocko said at 17:30 ..what a legend. When most people run away, dudes like Jocko run towards. Taking notes
I don't fucking care Eddie Munson should have lived! 😢
Just seemed like he was playing up to his persona to be honest. Least impressive thing about the interview IMO.
@@slowfudgeballs9517 Who’s that?
@@Droolbaby who are you lmfao
@@Droolbaby Yeah, but, like, who be ye?
Chris man. Excellent podcast. A high bar to clear for a man with a very high bar to start with. I relate to you more with each podcast. Quick story: I grew up in a bad situation and was poorly socialized and maybe a little autistic. I got bullied more than anyone should, but my dad put me in a taekwondo class. Kinda useless, but got me interested. Because now, I could defend myself from grade school bullies, kinda. Fast forward to high school. I had decided to study kickboxing and judo. Seemed like a good overall combination. Turns out it is. I went to high school in the 90's and I was the only person with a laptop. You see, I was a computer nerd publicly when that was not cool. Got me rigorously bullied. But by high school, I had a reputation. I wasn't very big (5'10'' 185lbs), but I know how to win a fight. Bullies still had the gall to fight me, but they had to work together to stand a chance. Still, I had been lifting progressively heavier weights since I was small (5 years old, started with 5 pounds) so I was immensely strong. That carries over into my young adulthood. Because I am strong, I typically worked in construction (framing, flooring) and also as a mechanic. Now 40, I am struggling to deal with the myriad injuries I've collected over my career. Yet, I have made it here so I will make it further. My biggest troubles are existential (obviously), and managing my pain and energy levels. Heh, that got long quick. I said all that in order to say this: You have reignited a fire within me. Reminded me that who I used to be is still who I essentially am. Older and more tired for sure, but I am still the only hero in my story. A rugged fighter who will push with all my strength until there is no more. Even though I know that day will come, it is not today. Know that you are a profound inspiration to me and that I really appreciate what you do. Thanks for reading. -Alex
I really appreciate you sharing this brother. Game recognises game.
In a short bit of understanding on my part- you keep going ,and then you keep going,finding a way,either through obstacles,over,under,around them till we literally can't because we give up the Spirit,or rather,God/ Jesus says it's time to go!!👍💯❤️🕊️
No matter how you feel, Just get up and do what your supposed to do! Thats it.
A doubly long podcast. Jocko as the guest. It's gonna be a great day.
JOCKO is the ultimate leader
Straight up Fax 💯
I can agree with the point that motivation is not what’s necessary to do things. I am constantly battling thoughts of negativity. For years, I struggled with obsessive compulsive disorder where I was getting really disturbing intrusive thoughts. I finally accepted that those thoughts were pretty much always going to be there, and I was going to actively choose to make the best decisions for my future, despite those thoughts being in the background. I also realize that this is actually a normal part of the human experience, there isn’t a human walking around that isn’t distracted by their thoughts. Once I realized this was just a normal part of being human, it gave me the power to live the life I want.
I listen to Jocko whenever I need a kick in the ass, thanks for this episode Chris, it helped set my mind straight today 🙏💜 🤗
Know what you mean Emily. When I'm lazing about I sometimes imagine Jocko coming to my door threatening to kick my ass. It's a motivator to get moving!
Cheers.
It’s always astounding to see Jocko Willink in color. It’s as if he lives among us in todays time
Highly underrated comment! Subtle and clever
“Wage war on your weakness” sounds like the line right before a breakdown in a metal song.
People get the word " motivation" mixed up with "inspiration". Motivation is what I feel when im on a roll. When my actions are leading to something❤ that momentum generates my motivation
listening to jocko interpret love island as a tactical operation is the most jocko thing ive ever heard
Jocko’s reference to discovering the same things as Jordan Peterson points to a universal truth that’s out there.
Imagine you are stealing something and Jocko comes out the door…
👀
Funny thing is, he'd probably not do much.
He certainly can easily replace anything stolen, and as such he knows the risk/reward lays too heavily in the risk column for him.
I suspect he wouldn't react beyond securing his family.
🤷🏻♂️ Just my opinion thought
Jocko has superb musical tast. It's such a breath of fresh air to see someone who knows good punk rock.
‘Good’ literally saved my life. Trying to resist what has already happened is a 1000% waste of time. And as Jung said “what you resist will persist” it’s true.
I like the fact that your podcast is mainly based on how to execute and implement rather than just motivating and encouraging people to work hard.
My day just got 10x more productive
If you are going through hell, keep going🔥 - Winston Churchill
Churchill was obese
Just after 1 hour when you began talking about emotions when facing the loss of a loved one......hit home. My little brother was taken in a bike wreck. Been a decade & I still feel bouts of rage & sadness.
Sorry for your loss mate
Your way of doing podcasts somehow intrige me more then others, I can't put my finger on it but you've got something good going!
I like how you always do a good amount of background research before the interview, it shows how dedicated you are to learning about others, in tandem with arming yourself with new knowledge--which is clearly reflected in your enhanced interviewing skills over the months. Nicely done and thank you Chris! This conversation made my work day fly by really fast.
1:40:41 “Definitely makes you appreciate the sunsets more”. I could be misinterpreting it, but I’ve never seen so much pain in Jocko’s face. His sincerity in that moment is heartbreakingly beautiful.
These interviewer skills are way more advanced as anyone on classic television I’ve seen in the last 20 years. What a geat stuff here man!
Brilliant, Brilliant podcast. Jocko delivers honest and real information. Its applicable to all ages, all situations we might encounter. His take on grief and death is simply spot on
Self discipline but without motivation leads to burn-out. Both are important. I've found I need to actively cultivate that "motivated/ hungry/ flow-state" otherwise just forcing myself to do things eventually leads to burn-out. I can push through in the short term on days I'm not feeling motivated, but long-term motivation is essential.
Incredible dichotomy here. A very similar thing can happen when you're chocked full of motivation but lack self discipline. You can only go so far on just motivation without burning out as well. Without discipline, those days where you don't have as much motivation are gonna be extra hard.
8 minutes in this is already phenomenal.
Meditation is the key that brought me back to the NOW and gave me a very deep meaning of myself and as well as a way to quietly work through unprocessed trama all the way back to childhood. The medicine I needed was within me from the beginning, but I didn't take it. NOW that I am taking it every morning I start my day with a peaceful resolve and gain an incredible insight into the art of processing and letting go of trama all to come back to a place of serenity, positivity and peace in the NOW..... ! It has taken six months to this threshold of a golden peace and light and I look forward to having only one mind. Too many minds got my butt in serious trouble. Beca complete Warrior and integrate meditation. It is better to be a Warrior in the garden than a Gardner in war. Thanks for posting. Resilience and peace to all! God bless America!
In the sea of endless podcasts these days, its refreshing to listen to you talk to great guests, and ask interesting and engaging questions.
Great stuff.
1. There are things we can control in life and things we can’t.
2. Bad things happen to good people.
3. Despite all our good planning, bad things can hit us like a meteor out of the sky.
4. Then we have to choose our attitude & response.
5. Proactive & Reactive.
6. Is the concept of “Trade-offs” synonymous with “Choice”?
7. Where do foundational core beliefs fit in?
A gem of a conversation - the main feedback I would have is it felt a tad too much like an interrogation rather than a free-flowing conversation
I really like how this guy does interviews. He just seeks understanding and doesn't try to incorporate any political bullshit which creates division between people.
Something that immediately popped to mind on the conversation of structure vs. creativity is great Chess players. If you look at Magnus Carlsen or Hikaru, they know lines, they know strategy and what to do in different situations but they're also able to think outside the box. Once you get to a certain level, everyone knows the same strategy, the same answers, so what separates the truly great ones from people that are just very good is that added ability. In saying that, the structure is still necessary because without that knowledge and those fundamentals you wouldn't get to the level where that becomes a part of the conversation.
The part that Jocko talked about motivation and the difference between discipline hits just right
What a wonderful surprise, thank you Chris.
I always enjoy listening to Jocko and his son's convos!
02:18:30 once you figure out how to never do something you don't wanna do, you realize you are respecting yourself more and are seeing more of your value. Especially and I'd say mostly if you're using your time wisely or doing something that serves your life.
I spit my drink out when he said “Look you can judge her by her looks” 😭
🤣🤣😂🤣😂🤣
15:12 I think a good distinction would be that taking responsibility is about solving the problem and taking ownership is about taking blame. As far as the argument is concerned, you can never take enough responsibility because you have far more agency and power than you realize. But you can definitely take too much ownership because not everything is your fault.
I realized y jocko is best with Jp , one dosent speak and other dosent let anyone
Loved when Jocko asked Chris how long he was in the field when talking about love island 😅
Chris should not have mentioned about love island, especially to jocko lol . His face was like ? Dating like men and women ?? 😅
The part about heartbreak just hits ideal for me. That's all I needed right now. Great conversation.
7:20 Jocko nails what Hackworth said about draftees. Lead into 7:40 and Jocko nailing how to win half the battle, knowing yourself (honestly and humbly), at least according to Sun Tzu.
John 14:6
Amen 👐
Chris you are absolutely smashing it at the moment. Keep it up!
The atmosphere you’ve created with set & lighting is the best I’ve ever seen.
It is truly the best looking podcast of them all. 100%
Jocko is my role model. An incredible human being.
Right there with you man.
Jocko's "Good" probably saved my life.
Good.
Willink is someone I could learn from. I am not self disciplined.
I had a stroke and two subsequent hospitalizations due to brain scar and fits. I fought through that and it changed me. I don’t worry about little stuff any longer. My brain feels free. No more holding on to imagined dragons and phantoms.
This interview is beautiful. Jocko has loss of friends in those wrinkles around his eyes.
He is not into drinking. Also revealing in his maturity & gained wisdom.
A Dunkin /TimHortons toast to these gentlemen.
Whenever I feel like not going for a run or to the gym, Jocko is my go to, I just google some random video and DO IT ... ❤
Chris’ thoughts on your darker self being the flip side of your best self was so interesting to me. It makes me wonder about looking at your past self with shame versus being grateful for the past lives you’ve lived. It can be very difficult to let go of the disappointment of what you used to think/do. I think if you feel ashamed of something it’s an indication of you knowing better, knowing what is good. 💭💭💭
Jocko , what a balanced man he is . He is patient and respectful to others ... That will inspire many folks ...
Fantastic interview Chris! One of your best yet. Have watched Jocko for years and the thought and research you undoubtedly did with your question formulation was second to none. Hope you guys meet again!
Very good point about not waiting for motivation. Also good point about anxiety cost. GUILTY.
I think Jocko is underestimating how fucking lucky he found his diamond that is his wife. The sheer luck is the equivalent is like finding a fist sized diamond in a mine field.
Yeah. Some mentor gave him the heads up, " not the looks, the personality, the values, check out her family."
But yeah, it was a good roll of the dice, too.
Jocko‘s physical presence whenever the camera gives the wide shot of both men; he‘s a beast. His forearms are bigger than most peoples thighs.
Fair Play Chris, you've come a long way, all on your own merit too, keep smashing it mate. Great interview.
you cant motivate negative to change but negative people demotivate the motivated i just wish this was mainstream education 20 yrs ago.
it just inspires me to make content
Lift weights, do jujitsu, go for runs, stretch out, eat good, stop drinking. Fuck. Literally wasn't doing any of these things this week! Love this show.
The way he speaks of his wife is incredible.
Just long enough for me to clean the fridge, range, counters, bathroom, bedroom, and floors
What he said about bullying is spot on.
Thanks Chris, great interview, exactly what I was expecting based on the video title and a strong person like Jocko. Thanks for spreading the message of mental toughness through this. Keep up the great work!!
45:28 / 2:33:05
There is definitely some lows early on in the interview. But that is classic Jocko being short to the point for those topics. Outside that it starts to shine later on and is a very good listen overall.
I know right. It´s like they dont get along that well in the early part.
@@Illus1veOne gets better when a topic that Jocko is passionate about later.
Aye it’s like Jocko had no time for Chris’ intellectualised questions. Think by the end Chris stops trying to show Jocko how smart he is and starts asking decent questions and it comes together nicely
@@henrychinaski7680 exactly. I think Chris was expecting Jocko to expand on his deep thought questions early on.
@@johnkrstyen7351 True. it’s super interesting how Jocko refers to this sticking to a plan vs being adaptable in this conversation. Some lessons in there. Hard for Chris, he obviously put in lots of prep thinking of good thoughtful questions in advance. Shame they didn’t stick. Chris just needs to be a bit more adaptable to the moment. Anyway huge fan so keep pushing Chris!
Don't wait for when you're happy to do your work.
First you do the work, then you're happy.
Super excited to hear this! Got to wait till I hit the gym this afternoon but thank you thank you already!
"Choose someone you can go to war with"
Didn't realise the bible was in the business of badass relationship advice
What a fantastic podcast, very slick in production, and Jocko is great. Nice work Chris, thank you 👍
My Nana, who was a child during the depression, and a young woman during World War II, always used to say that if you have to swear when you are speaking, you are not thinking when you are speaking. And if you are not thinking when you are speaking, you probably shouldn’t be speaking. I have always found that good advice in most situations. I understand that there are situations where it applies, but generally to me it’s just laziness.
Chris, you have a way of taking your guests into territories of very deep conversation that not many other podcasters do. You get them to think very deeply about their answers, this often divulges a different side to their personality than that which is usually seen in the public domain. It's an admirable skill. I'm glad I stumbled upon your channel, keep up the great work!! 🚀💥
Ps: I'm a huge Jocko fan, great episode!! 🙏
Hell yeah! JOCKO! Been picking up on your excitement about this one, Chris. This is gonna be rad!
When Jocko said "If someone IS out there stealing things, will you let me know"
That was savage. I love Jocko!!!!
For me:
Discipline and creativity, two traits you must find the balance for.
Because too much discipline will restrain your creativity.
Motivation is overcomplicating.
Motivation is the ability to do what you have to do whatever situation and state you are in. There's no magical state you must be in to do it.
Courage can't be faked, neither can motivation.
Grief is neurologically extremely similar to break ups.
Losing someone close is like being put in an emotional storm that blows you away from time to time and you have no control over.
It simply improves over time.
The best you can do in a relationship that's not working out is wish them good luck, walk away and don't look back.
If a memory still affects you, write it down.
Being able to defend yourself physically is s superpower.
Every skill worth mastering in this life, takes tons of time and practice
Chris’ example at 12:20 shows a lack of ownership when it comes to expectations. He expects a great result from something he can’t control, instead of asking the best question possible and letting the chips fall where they may.
Thank you. This was bugging me too but wasn't sure how to solve his problem.
This conversation is awkwardly entertaining, motivational and informational. Good stuff.
Been hanging for this to come out and it did not disappoint. If anything it's better than expected. Chris is getting better and better at interviewing every episode it seems.
Jocko: “Dating?”
Chris: “Yeah, you know, dating.”
Jocko: “Oh. Like a male/female scenario?”
Chris: “Yeah”
Jocko: “Check”
Thank you Chris!! Late to hear you two,but incredibly happy i did!!! Great discussion,and had a awesome morning listening while working.👍💯🌌
To put it simply, people who are on a path to finding real truth, will eventually converge and run parallel in many many thoughts, ideals, principals, morals, ethics, independence, desire for actual liberty, etc. etc.
Chris, I've been listening to you since Jordan Peterson. You ask great questions, carry yourself well. I thought this was good but you seem to be telling more of your stories and your understanding instead of asking questions of the other person being the focus. (I'm personally not great at this, myself).
As you continue to grow in this, please keep it others aimed.
Thanks again for what you do. I really enjoy your interviews & helpful insight!
Chris, was listening to another interview and learned that Jocko was kind of a unicorn interview... In fairness, I would have been more chatty also.
His advice on relationships and focusing on finding someone who is emotionally resilient and capable on their own goes under looked in my opinion.
There's like a "hottest guy in the room" vs "toughest guy in the room" at a bar tension going on here ahaha
Except tough is hot, so I think we've got a clear winner.
These guys always come off to me as the jackpots of outcome. Sure they're disciplined. So is almost everyone I know. People do well when they can. Until we do more as a society to address equal opportunity, most of these points are moot. These guys have better options and got lucky. The rest of us do our best, smile, nod, and eat shit.
Absolutely fantastic discussion. Covered so many diverse topics and did so exceptionally well.
Jocko Willink at full color :D
Imagine this dude delivering press conferences from the white house
Someday...
4:10 creativity and discipline are a force to be reckoned with when they’re balanced
18:32 Because we've adapted the mindset that we need to work for things. We need to put in the effort if we want to win in life. We gotta take responsibility and prove ourselves.
Or to put it frankly: I won't allow myself this certain experience of joy and contentment until I've done this certain thing.
Now that's all good and true, but if you really think about it, why you want to achieve success or win at all is because you're aiming for what you deem the easiest and most reliable way to feeling joy. All our actions and choices reflect our desire for happiness. Wether it's family, career, personal ambitions, a hobby etc. We do what we enjoy, and strive for more of that enjoyment. But, and this is where we're making a fatal mistake, we think we need to do or achieve certain things to get that happiness. While in reality we limit our happiness to certain things depending on our personality. Things don't bring joy or misery, you react to things with joy or misery. Albeit mostly unconscious and out of your control. But that's because we never learn to take control. Man, I could write another 10 paragraphs on this but I'm spending too much time repeating myself in youtube comments in an attempt to share some of my knowledge lol