Anchoring is tricky but it becomes easier with practice. Thank you for sharing your struggles. The general rule is that you should have a minimum of 4/1 and a maximum of 7/1 scope so letting out 200 feet of rode in 12 feet of water might cause more problems that it would solve. One option for heavy weather anchoring is putting out a second anchor, but be prepared to do some untangling of rode!
Hats off to your brother! Those cold rainy days just suck. Thanks for the videos. Winters up here in the NE would feel longer if we didn't have awesome videos to watch.
8 minutes 24 seconds. She's never looked cuter! Reminds me of one of Santa's helpers from the movie Elf! lol. You guys are hilarious. I can't wait for my wife and me to do the same thing. What a great adventure!
You had complaint about wrapping the rode around the keel. One solution is to have an all chain rode. If you're like me, can't really afford that, plus one really needs a windlass with it. What I do is use a sentinel. A sentinel can be made out of most any heavy item connected to the anchor rode and then has its own warp up to the boat. I us a 16 pound mushroom anchor. Set it to a minimum below keel depth. I tend to let it out to 2 feet above bottom at low tide. This aides in two ways. One, it causes more lateral pressure on the anchor, therefore causing it dig deeper instead of being pulled up and out. Two, in a rolling anchorage, especially during storms and such, it dampens the pitch of the bow without over stressing ground tackle system with shock load. Because of the latter, it is a little more comfortable in the boat, both physically and psychologically. I really enjoy following your adventures! I will be taking off on my own this fall! Fair winds my friends! :-)
The sentinel sounds way too complicated. I had 29 foot a boat with rope rode and never had it wrap the keel once--even with boat getting pushed around by conflicting currents and winds. I think the problem is he is letting out too much rode. You're not supposed to go beyond a 7/1 scope.
I gave a rather detailed description, but it's really not all that complicated. It's certainly much easier than unwrapping the rode from around the keel. Furthermore, with a rope rode, 7 to 1 scope is the MINIMUM recommended. In storm conditions, rope rodes are to be a minimum of 10 to 1! I am glad that a short scope works for you, but I could not sleep well at night with a scope too short. I have dragged on 7 to 1 before, but that was before I started using a sentinel. Not saying the sentinel keeps me firm, no. I would never depend on it for that. Only scope can reduce angle enough to keep anchor firm.
Christopher Young Ive always and was taught that a 5:1 scope is for day trips, 7:1 minimum for sleeping overnight, and 9:1 during a blow. One of my Dad's friends who is a very salty sailor also told me that letting out more than needed is always better than letting out less than needed. Do you have a fin or full keel?
TheTurtlee1 Kellet/Sentinel Ive heard of this technique. I have 60 feet of chain we've been avoiding this by anchoring in less than 10 feet of water and avoiding anchoring in Rivers for extended periods of time. Thanks for the words and support!
I am thoroughly enjoying your videos. Stumbled across your channel about 3 days ago, and breezed through every single video. Good stuff. Can't wait for your adventures in the islands of the Bahamas.
Half way thru and watching Rob get absolutely P'd upon and got to wondering if you though of putting up a see thru tarp over the boom and running back the the aft stays?? That way, you maintain some vis to the sides but ahead and to the stern is still as good as it gets in such weather. Cant use it when under sail so much (if at all) but if the thunder's not there, a large umbrella could make the helmsman's (helmswoman's) life a little less arduous. Great videos :)
I started watching your videos about a week ago. I was wondering if you would show Thunderbolt as you came down the ICW. Then at 0:07....our condo....Home Sweet Home!!
Love the vids guys. I'm a recent grad who bought a boat too. J-105 for racing and day sailing, thinking of selling and going the cruising route like you. Fair winds.
I have a 32' C&C Just south of Savannah the swing keel version 4ft draft with board up. There are times coming in and out of my Marina @ Delegal Creek it gets sketchy on low tide. Its just north where you ran aground at Red Bird Creek & Hells Gate
Sorry, meant Rob. No idea where the name Joe came from tonite. I knew Rob vs Joe, so who knows. All I can say is you need to search both Rob and his duffle for any signs of banannas before you shove off on the new boat, from wherever that may be. Walking the plank is another option, but I always rather enjoyed hanging the errant mate from the yardarm in just his skivies in warmer climes, especially in areas with passing boat traffic. 😂
Your brother Joe did an awesome job manning the helm for all that time, during the "Noah's Ark" scenes, but he should be hung for the yardarm in his underwear for bringing those possessed bananna's onto the boat !!! How did he sneak those retched things aboard, under the nose of the Master of the boat ??? But, he gets some redemption points for climbing that mast to hang the RADAR REFLECTOR. ..... a definite must have on the ICW. Will we see Joe back on the new boat, doing any cruising. He looks like he's spent a few days on the water :)
+Bruce Malo That's Rob he is a champ! Joe was my friend that came out on the first sail. You will definitely see more of Rob on the new boat. He's got to get some time in the islands for clutching through bad weather, may need him for some overnights too! Thank you for watching!
I bought a Erickson from back east just off the Chesapeake. it had like 4' of chain and 124' . I can't think of anywhere in the world where a guy can safely anchor out with 4' of chain or even 10'. In the Pacific NW we generally like 1' chain for every 1' of boat, and that's not for ocean anchorages.
Wicked Salty this video happened way before I noticed you had a whole chain locker full of chain, sorry . . . Personally I keep a 100' of chain and 450' of rhode. Again my apologies.
Wicked Salty Well, I have had to deal with fathoms out here and we actually have swells which are measured by time. I lived in MD. for awhile, and my ex wife took me to the beach one day and she jumped up and down with glee as she yelled at me the waves are coming. she ran up and down the beach shout the waves are breaking. I'm looking and looking, i run up to the very edge of the ocean. Sweetheart are you talking about these little 6" beach breaks? Her whole demeanor changed, yes. Well sometimes we get 6' or 7' waves coming in with the storms. Sweetie in Oregon we get 4' to 7' waves a lot where I come from and its not uncommon to get 16'- 35' storm surf. I wished I hadn't told her that because she became disheartened.
Salty your Brother is a stud! That was a hail of a storm and he hung in their!!!!!! Hoping your in warmer water by now having so much fun that you don't have time to make a video!!! Fair Winds/ Sorry Fair motoring! had to do that.
I'd like to see a video series on someone who does the ICW without a motor. And see how long it takes them. Ain't nobody got time for that! Warm weather at last :)
Totally agree with the sentinel, I use a $5 mushroom anchor from a marine consignment store... OK come straight.. What's that toilet seat doing in your cockpit?
hey dude took the same trip with two of my buddies last year, we left from Port Dover Ontario and went down to the Bahamas and back. Regardless the same thing happened to us on our C&C 30, and our anchor rode got caught around the keel a few to many times. Lost our boat once. We found it though haha. We had thirty feet of chain and the rest was rope, so we finally said F this and bought 100 feet of chain and traded our 25lbs anchor in for a 35 at a used boat shop in florida, and even though we were penny pinching hard it was 100 percent worth it, we never dragged again or got the rode wrapped around the keel. The ICW can be a fickle bitch
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Really getting them going more with frequent updates on our journeys!
Anchoring is tricky but it becomes easier with practice. Thank you for sharing your struggles. The general rule is that you should have a minimum of 4/1 and a maximum of 7/1 scope so letting out 200 feet of rode in 12 feet of water might cause more problems that it would solve. One option for heavy weather anchoring is putting out a second anchor, but be prepared to do some untangling of rode!
Hats off to your brother! Those cold rainy days just suck. Thanks for the videos. Winters up here in the NE would feel longer if we didn't have awesome videos to watch.
8 minutes 24 seconds. She's never looked cuter! Reminds me of one of Santa's helpers from the movie Elf! lol. You guys are hilarious. I can't wait for my wife and me to do the same thing. What a great adventure!
Best video yet because it started in Thunderbolt, GA. Looking forward to more. Keep up the good work.
Guy out middle of the water.. throwing bread... MINE MINE MINE MINE MINE!!!
You had complaint about wrapping the rode around the keel. One solution is to have an all chain rode. If you're like me, can't really afford that, plus one really needs a windlass with it. What I do is use a sentinel.
A sentinel can be made out of most any heavy item connected to the anchor rode and then has its own warp up to the boat. I us a 16 pound mushroom anchor. Set it to a minimum below keel depth. I tend to let it out to 2 feet above bottom at low tide.
This aides in two ways. One, it causes more lateral pressure on the anchor, therefore causing it dig deeper instead of being pulled up and out. Two, in a rolling anchorage, especially during storms and such, it dampens the pitch of the bow without over stressing ground tackle system with shock load. Because of the latter, it is a little more comfortable in the boat, both physically and psychologically.
I really enjoy following your adventures! I will be taking off on my own this fall! Fair winds my friends! :-)
The sentinel sounds way too complicated. I had 29 foot a boat with rope rode and never had it wrap the keel once--even with boat getting pushed around by conflicting currents and winds. I think the problem is he is letting out too much rode. You're not supposed to go beyond a 7/1 scope.
I gave a rather detailed description, but it's really not all that complicated. It's certainly much easier than unwrapping the rode from around the keel.
Furthermore, with a rope rode, 7 to 1 scope is the MINIMUM recommended. In storm conditions, rope rodes are to be a minimum of 10 to 1!
I am glad that a short scope works for you, but I could not sleep well at night with a scope too short. I have dragged on 7 to 1 before, but that was before I started using a sentinel. Not saying the sentinel keeps me firm, no. I would never depend on it for that. Only scope can reduce angle enough to keep anchor firm.
TheTurtlee1 I've used the 4/1 scope about a 100 times and have not dragged once. I've never had rode wrap my keel, either...
Christopher Young Ive always and was taught that a 5:1 scope is for day trips, 7:1 minimum for sleeping overnight, and 9:1 during a blow. One of my Dad's friends who is a very salty sailor also told me that letting out more than needed is always better than letting out less than needed. Do you have a fin or full keel?
TheTurtlee1 Kellet/Sentinel Ive heard of this technique. I have 60 feet of chain we've been avoiding this by anchoring in less than 10 feet of water and avoiding anchoring in Rivers for extended periods of time. Thanks for the words and support!
LOVE these videos! Can't wait to graduate and live aboard as well
52 years around boats and somehow I never learned about bananas being bad luck. I consider myself recalibrated.
I am thoroughly enjoying your videos. Stumbled across your channel about 3 days ago, and breezed through every single video. Good stuff. Can't wait for your adventures in the islands of the Bahamas.
You guys are showing us what cruising is. Kewl, to much fun video. Enjoyed it mucho!!!
It was nice too see an actual sail up for a change. I like the videos, this one didn't look like fun at first.
I was just at the Jekyll Island Club Hotel last spring for a wedding. You weren't kidding that place is so nice.
Half way thru and watching Rob get absolutely P'd upon and got to wondering if you though of putting up a see thru tarp over the boom and running back the the aft stays?? That way, you maintain some vis to the sides but ahead and to the stern is still as good as it gets in such weather. Cant use it when under sail so much (if at all) but if the thunder's not there, a large umbrella could make the helmsman's (helmswoman's) life a little less arduous.
Great videos :)
Nice video. Cool seeing Thunderbolt, my home town.
Just started watching your videos. Great stuff! The only thing is you forgot your golf clubs!
I started watching your videos about a week ago. I was wondering if you would show Thunderbolt as you came down the ICW. Then at 0:07....our condo....Home Sweet Home!!
Lookin Good you 3....don't sweat the little stuff...keeper goin South........
Great vid like always im going to get a 34foot in Australia to sail up to Hong Kong you guys are a inspiration.
Awesome video. Kudos for editing aswell. Looks realy nice!
Love the vids guys. I'm a recent grad who bought a boat too. J-105 for racing and day sailing, thinking of selling and going the cruising route like you. Fair winds.
Cruising is the way to go!
I have a 32' C&C Just south of Savannah the swing keel version 4ft draft with board up. There are times coming in and out of my Marina @ Delegal Creek it gets sketchy on low tide. Its just north where you ran aground at Red Bird Creek & Hells Gate
Dude thought u sank!! Wear u been? Your vids keep me warm in Connecticut, thanks!!
Still floating!
Those birds are still following us to this day. Never ever feed a bird...
cant wait to see your video about coming by Titusville!
Great videos, keep them coming!
Sorry, meant Rob. No idea where the name Joe came from tonite. I knew Rob vs Joe, so who knows. All I can say is you need to search both Rob and his duffle for any signs of banannas before you shove off on the new boat, from wherever that may be. Walking the plank is another option, but I always rather enjoyed hanging the errant mate from the yardarm in just his skivies in warmer climes, especially in areas with passing boat traffic. 😂
Your brother Joe did an awesome job manning the helm for all that time, during the "Noah's Ark" scenes, but he should be hung for the yardarm in his underwear for bringing those possessed bananna's onto the boat !!! How did he sneak those retched things aboard, under the nose of the Master of the boat ??? But, he gets some redemption points for climbing that mast to hang the RADAR REFLECTOR. ..... a definite must have on the ICW. Will we see Joe back on the new boat, doing any cruising. He looks like he's spent a few days on the water :)
+Bruce Malo That's Rob he is a champ! Joe was my friend that came out on the first sail. You will definitely see more of Rob on the new boat. He's got to get some time in the islands for clutching through bad weather, may need him for some overnights too! Thank you for watching!
Set a stern anchor after you get your main out and set. Just row out in a dingy off the stern and set another.
I bought a Erickson from back east just off the Chesapeake. it had like 4' of chain and 124' . I can't think of anywhere in the world where a guy can safely anchor out with 4' of chain or even 10'. In the Pacific NW we generally like 1' chain for every 1' of boat, and that's not for ocean anchorages.
haha, before this experience I was told 60' of chain. I'd say now personally, 80' is a safer bet.
Wicked Salty this video happened way before I noticed you had a whole chain locker full of chain,
sorry . . . Personally I keep a 100' of chain and 450' of rhode. Again my apologies.
saltyseascott No worries! no need for an apology. That's a crap load of rode!
Wicked Salty
Well, I have had to deal with fathoms out here and we actually have swells which are measured by time. I lived in MD. for awhile, and my ex wife took me to the beach one day and she jumped up and down with glee as she yelled at me the waves are coming. she ran up and down the beach shout the waves are breaking. I'm looking and looking, i run up to the very edge of the ocean. Sweetheart are you talking about these little 6" beach breaks? Her whole demeanor changed, yes. Well sometimes we get 6' or 7' waves coming in with the storms. Sweetie in Oregon we get 4' to 7' waves a lot where I come from and its not uncommon to get 16'- 35' storm surf. I wished I hadn't told her that because she became disheartened.
Looked like your bro had a Shawshank Redemption moment.
I couldn't tell if it was Shawshank or a hint of Lt. Dan from Forrest Gump?? haha
Patrick Wagz coulda been a little of both! haha
Merry Christmas indeed!
Great videos! What program do you use to edit them? Thanks Wicked
Salty your Brother is a stud! That was a hail of a storm and he hung in their!!!!!! Hoping your in warmer water by now having so much fun that you don't have time to make a video!!! Fair Winds/ Sorry Fair motoring! had to do that.
I'd like to see a video series on someone who does the ICW without a motor. And see how long it takes them. Ain't nobody got time for that!
Warm weather at last :)
Weston Lilly Ain't nobody got time for dat. I thought somebody was barbequin'.
Totally agree with the sentinel, I use a $5 mushroom anchor from a marine consignment store... OK come straight.. What's that toilet seat doing in your cockpit?
That thing indefinitely moves around the boat. Heh yeah hate it when it's in pics and stuff.
Bananas on the boat, there's your answer.
No bananas. Ever.
The Bananas are the problem for sure!
competing currents and winds can wrap the keel in no-time.
In La Paz it's called the Magode Waltz.
Did you know Jekyll island is where the modern day banking system was conceived? check it out!
Dude. You said that last episode... Moving on.
How did you free the anchor rode from the keel?
attach the anchor line to a fender and release the line to it, have engine in neutral, wait to float away/over, engage gear and retrieve.
Whats the thingy you hung from the spreader?
radar reflector I think
jackrabbitslim36 you are correct.
who needs mast steps?! lol,
hey dude took the same trip with two of my buddies last year, we left from Port Dover Ontario and went down to the Bahamas and back. Regardless the same thing happened to us on our C&C 30, and our anchor rode got caught around the keel a few to many times. Lost our boat once. We found it though haha. We had thirty feet of chain and the rest was rope, so we finally said F this and bought 100 feet of chain and traded our 25lbs anchor in for a 35 at a used boat shop in florida, and even though we were penny pinching hard it was 100 percent worth it, we never dragged again or got the rode wrapped around the keel. The ICW can be a fickle bitch
Dude do you ever actually sail?
yes
I know this comment comes a few years late, but the real reason you don't feed the birds, is so they don't poop all over your boat. Funny but true.