Arlong may not be as strong as Jinbei overall, but he does have an advantage over Jinbei in the form of a long nose, which we know to be an indicator of incredible power. Examples of that being God Usopp/Sniper King.
@@BlackLightAttack I would like To believe this theory. She's so slick with the sleight of hand. And when we do see it resurface as he pointed out then that was just she was getting that drunk that she wasn't able to hide it as well
The fact that we can say that early Onepiece is so inconsistent just goes to show how consistent the manga eventually becomes. It’s really fascinating seeing those retcons and early idea that had to get changed because it shows us Oda’s thought process. Great video!
Oda sensei was still an assistant before One piece. Of course these are some small consistent...because of Oda hard work, 20 hours a day for 20+ years... One piece is a masterpiece today.
Not a single one of that "Inconsistencies" is of actual importance to anything anything. Maybe the Sanji one with the devil fruit, but if oda cared he could explain it easily. For example "Sanji actually only read some devil fruit entries, he didn't read the overall info on devil fruits" or some shit like that. Also who cares
@@sebitei I hate seeing this noted as an inconsistency on so many videos because I always thought it could be explained as “he forgot”. After all, considering Sanji’s surprise to Luffy’s devil fruit abilities, it’s easy to assume that he, as well as everyone else in the East Blue, never came across Devil fruit users. So I believe it’s not silly to assume that that detail about DF users just didn’t cross his mind. Especially considering, the heat of excitement after Krieg’s defeat. Far from a plot hole or big inconsistency.
Well shiki talk about east blue like the most "weak" sea, and some say it's the most peaceful of the 4 sea, so maybe when there is someone intelligent, there are like : Its big brain time 🤷♂️
Shanks has stated that he "bet" his arm on the new era, which I guess means he willingly let the sea king eat his arm, with the idea that it'd make Luffy realize that the sea is dangerous and postpone his departure until he was older and stronger. Maybe if he'd come out completely unscathed Luffy would have kept insisting he take him along, or even stow away in his ship, and become a pirate way earlier than Shanks thought he should. EDIT: to clarify, I know that Shanks losing his arm was an editor's idea. What I'm saying is only a retroactive explanation for what does indeed feel like an inconsistency given today's power levels.
@@ichiruki.forever To Luffy? u think he would have understand? He'll understand only after something happens to his friends cuz of his ignorance. We're talking about a seven year old kid who didn't say a word that would betray his friends even after a whole day of torture.
@UCAGbjUmlan_g9iVbiXyH_kg Definitely not, even though Oda may not have planned the entirety of One Piece from the start Shanks being a strong pirate is very obviously planned from the start. I mean Shanks literally just tells the sea king to fuck off the second it takes his arm. We are also told pretty early on in the east blue that Shanks is a great pirate, the scene with Shanks and Mihawk happens right after Baratie. So Oda when he drew that scene of Shanks definitely already had it in his mind that he was very strong.
The situation with Shanks gets addressed at post Enies lobby when Whitebeard asks him “everyone was surprised that you lost an arm, to what formidable enemy did you give it?” And Shank’s response was “I bet it on a new era” so maybe Shank chose to lose the arm to inspire Luffy to be a pirate
I just think “sacrificing arm for next gen” is a dumb answer. It’s outright silly tbh. Like… he didn’t need to lose his arm to the giant scary sea monster to impart the “sea is dangerous” wisdom.
Kuro wanted to live a normal life away from piracy. That’s why he wanted to gain the trust of the villagers and kaya. After doing so, he would raid the village, get kaya to give up her fortune, and then live a normal life, while blaming the pirates for killing kaya. This way the marines wouldn’t be alerted of captain kuro’s return and so kurahadol would live a nice quiet life in a mansion.
He could've easily just done that all in day 1. There was no need to gain trust. And he never says what he would do when facing the WG. He just says later on that he was always gonna kill them.
I just watched this arc for the first time, so I can confirm what you're saying is correct, he wanted to stay and have a peaceful life with the villagers, but the bigger plothole here is why didn't he just hypnotise the villagers day one? Is it because the hypnotism is temporary or is that reaching too much?
@@captainperiwinkle I think the hypnotism was something he was forced into when he realized he wasn't getting in that will with his first plan. He's basically the butler from Aristocats, only he's the one with cat claws.
11:38 The average bounty in the east blue is 3 million berries. Buggy, Arlong and Krieg were the 3 top dogs of an entire ocean. Defeating the three like that certainly would warrant such commotion from the navy's part.
The marines setting up a senior meeting makes a lot of sense when you realize that they probably were wary because Luffy's full name was quite similar to their legendary hero Garp.
Iirc they are wary of luffy defeating problematic figures within east blue (consecutively with short intervals) They probably did the same with kid, law and other rookies before they get their own bounties
Also it's been clearly stated that Luffy was given an unprecedented starting bounty, especially for an East Blue pirate, so it stands to reason that a few higher ups would object to it before getting the details, and then a meeting would have to be called to explain and justify the bounty before it gets approved. (Although I'm betting that if not for his relations to Garp and Dragon, the turnout would be much smaller.)
In the Arlong arc, when Luffy is underwater technically his feet are in concrete so he sinks faster but retains a tiny bit of movement Edit: nah, that's still pretty clearly nonsense Odamnesia is surely at play
Is this an anime only thing or is there also movement in the manga (And by manga movement, I'm referring to the way manga artists draw panels to convey movement of the characters)
@@pizzweak580 Luffy does have rock on foot in manga yes. Edit: chapter 84 Luffy does the hand over mouth fingers in nose thing. He first enters the water in chapter 83 and spends weeks of irl time underwater,, multiple chapters
I believe he sacrificed his arm to help Luffy realise that the sea is a dangerous place. Luffy knew Shanks was strong, so seeing Shanks lose his arm would make Luffy delay his decision of going out to the sea and hence Luffy would be safe until he was ready to turn the world upside down.
Yeah pretty sure its more like the story was a 5 year long story back then and it would make sense in that circumstance. Now tho. It doesnt. 24 years later you know.
It also teaches Luffy what it means to protect your nakama. It's not a matter of going out, fists swinging, defending people's honor or some crap. It means a lot more than that. Sometimes it means personal sacrifice. It's not a matter of whether you can take care of yourself. Can you take care of your people? This is what that looks like, kiddo. This is why Luffy decides he wants to gather a crew of his own after he gets stronger.
@@14thsomebodyelse or it was just to close to not lose his arm? He is not god u dont know how much time he had. how tf is the argument that he invincible we never even saw him fight
@@gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926 he fought mihawk and won... He's also a Haki user. No, the only possibilities are either he did it on purpose to get a message to Luffy, or it is just a giant plot hole.
I feel like 99% of the inconsistencies in East Blue can be explained by either Oda not knowing how the story would pan out years in the future or characters just being overwhelmingly stupid
@@Lemontarts01 it's funny hahah and it goes well with the story. honestly one piece will always remain one of my favorite, especially since I started watching and reading it since I was little, so there is a bit of nostalgia there. That being said I think it's one of the best shonen out there, it keeps that sense of adventure and wonder (you still don't know how the ending will be), it's perfect for the demographic it's aimed. Obviously it's not the anime you watch if you want something dark or some topics to be treated seriously. But I think it's one of the few that it's well made and stayed pure shonen, even tho there are some inconsistency, but it's nothing, in my opinion that prevent enjoying it
I think with Zoro in the early manga anyway with him contradicting the character we know. I get the impression that Oda wanted to make Zoro originally more of a doubtful character. Like could he actually be trusted on what he said or not? But I think as the story went on. Oda scrapped that idea for Zoro's character and made his a straightforward swordsman who considers it dishonourable to go back on his word.
I've got possible explanations I've leaned on for some of these. - Alvida was probably just similar enough to Luffy to lack foresight on her sea voyages. So a nerd like Koby was a massive stroke of luck. - Roger Pirates. Two possibilities. 1) A vast amount of the group just hadn't physically been in the Grand Line or on the crew long enough to see Devil Fruits themselves. 2) It's one thing to see a guy create shockwaves by punching the air, it's another thing to believe he actually got those powers from eating a bad tasting fruit.
@@GrandLineReview He could have hypnotized the entire village to make it so that he was just a member of Kaya’s family and the heir of her fortune! Cats are known for having 9 lives, not brains.
@@GrandLineReview Kuro never says it outright, but personally I think the "Kurahadol" ruse was also meant to train himself and see how well he could (re)adjust to civilian life after years of living in a cutthroat environment. If he wants to live in retirement, he has to interact with wider society sooner or later, and he can't hypnotize (or kill) *every* person who gets the tiniest bit suspicious.
A male arm is listed as being 5,70% of the total mass. As Shanks' bounty is 4,048,900,000 berries, this totals to 230,787,300 berries. So you are correct!
10:40 Shanks and Buggy were once equals as well and Oda stated that Buggy became weak and lazy while Shanks kept training which is why they have such a gap in power and that it could also have been the other way around if their situations had been inverted. Arlong did the same by settling in the weakest sea. Moreover, Jinbei was consistently shown to be stronger than Arlong as he defeated Rear-Admiral Strawberry who should be somewhat relative in power to pre-timeskip X Drake while Arlong would never be able to defeat a decent Captain like pre-timeskip Smoker and Hina or post-timeskip Coby and Tashigi who are 2 ranks below Rear-Admiral. In my opinion the only Captain he would be able to defeat is Morgan. So this may just be a misconception from East Blue inhabitants due to the fact that Jinbei and Arlong are the (two) most prominent figures of the Sun Pirates being Fisher Tiger. Also, if Jinbei was chosen as a Warlord instead of Arlong then this had to mean he was inevitably more powerful than him no matter what Yosaku said.
plot twist, he sacrificed the arm so that mihawk will no longer be his rival and wont bug him for duels anymore. and it turns out shanks dropped off zoro in that dojo specifically so he'd be into swordsmanship to dehtrone mihawk in the future.
@@aldenmcgrath9722 And it turns out, he was Rick from Rick and Morty in disguise trying to get Luffy to be King of The Pirates to get his phone battery to work again
@@Maronics Names don't always mean one is related. It could just be a coincidence. Just because his name is Monkey D. Luffy doesn't necessarily mean he's related Garp and Dragon just by the name alone.
Regarding Kuro's plan to not just immediately hypnotize her he probably wanted to be safe given Jango is only able to do hypnosis right about 1/3 of the time
I think shanks gave his arm to show luffy that the sea isnt as kind as he thinks. It's a dangerous thing to set sail to the seas. I remember shanks talking to rayleigh and telling him that he met a kid who said EXACTLY what roger did. So I think he did that as a wager to the next generation to quote the man himself
I think Shanks was dying n saw that there was no cure n the poison was spreading from his arm to the rest of the body so he decided to jxt let the sea monster eat his arm
The point of Kuro's plan was to retire from piracy entirely and live a comfortable, peaceful life. The three years of servitude was to endear the butler Klahadore to the townsfolk and make himself a respected fixture of Syrup Village. Hypnotizing Kaya to write the will had to wait until Klahadore was well known and liked, so nobody would question that she left her fortune to him. The pirate raid was a way to kill Kaya without raising suspicion that she was being targeted specifically. And the killing of his own crew was to remove any loose end that could potentially link back to his past as a pirate. It's insanely convoluted, yes, but it makes sense from a logistical standpoint.
I've always thought that shanks lost his arm due to the sudden nature of the event. Like the only thing on his mind was to save Luffy no matter the cost. And that the creature was already too close to Luffy for him to save him without getting hurt.
yeah but its not like he wasnt used to that or didnt know how to use armament haki because remember he was mihawk’s rival also just added mihawk is old as shi-
Maybe the two flashbacks reflect the focal character’s perspective? From Buggy’s perspective, he and Shanks were practically adults, but from the perspective of Oden or Yamato reading Oden’s journal, Shanks and Buggy were still but a pair of wee kiddos.
In Kuro's case, it might have been because it would have been suspicious for him to just show up, then suddenly Kaya gives him the inheritance. I think he didn't hypnotize the villagers because it would have been too challenging for Jango, I mean, that guy gets hypnotized by himself... Also if Kuro just killed the entire village it would have caught the Marines's attention.
In the start of the series I thought Shanks was just a small pirate but a kind and good one and when luffy enters grand line he knows Shanks has been killed and he will avenge him
i always thought that shanks sacrificed his arm on purpose to teach luffy a lesson about how dangerous the sea is. he didnt want luffy to rush out into the sea prematurely and die.
Viz still gets me mad they still haven’t changed “shadow doppelgänger” to “shadow clone” for the Naruto/Boruto manga even tho it’s universally known as clone by every Naruto fan
Many speak of the day in which Luffy and Shanks will reunite, or perhaps the when Usopp will finally meet Yasopp. But I only hope to see an encounter between Coby and Alvida.
From what I understood Kuro was under heat from the marines so he had no choice but to go undercover for three years. Then once the marines forgot about him he decided to execute his plan.
Shanks lost his arm on purpose. It was to motivate Luffy into becoming a pirate because if Luffy feels some sort of debt towards Shanks it will make him want to repay it by becoming stronger.
I think with Sanji's case it was because the manual just listed the types and their abilities, not the weakness because it was usually common knowledge to those who already knew about devil fruits. All he knew was that it comes with a curse, but he didn't know what exactly. The more likely reason is that, as he said, he wasn't interested in it. As a child, he probably just read the names and looked past the pictures.
My own take is that Sanji's "why didn't you tell me sooner?!" came from a place of (subconsciously) not *wanting* to believe that Devil Fruits took away your swimming ability until he had literally no other choice. Luffy was the first proof he had that Devil Fruits were real at all - but that doesn't mean he had to believe *everything* in the book from his childhood (which he probably read in-between bits of _Liar Noland_) was true, and who among us hasn't fantasized about having our cake and eating it too, every once in a while? The matter-of-fact way he discusses it later on, with Absalom, happened months after he met Luffy and got used to Devil Fruits; hence his "Meh, I was never *really* that interested in them!" air about the whole thing.
@@mortiphasm5597 No I reread it as I typed this comment and he said that it came with a weakness, but he didn’t specify. He also didn't say he knew what it was in the first place.
Or Sanji’s just relieved after winning against Don Krieg and forgot a bit about the DF’s curse. He might imply his word as why was he not reminded sooner
Shanks said so himself, he bet his arm in the next generation. Now that we know that the gomu gomu fruit is somehow special it makes even more sense to "bet" on Luffy. So, as weird as it sounds, I guess he lost it on purpose.
That literally makes no sense because Garp was trying to keep Luffy and Ace hidden and that they didn't know when Luffy set out. He didn't tell anyone.
@@SincereWords Bro. They didn't know that Dragon was connected to Luffy. I'm sure Garp would've kept it quiet until Marineford. And what use is it if Garp is his known grandson? Nothing. And you haven't even commented on the fact NO ONE WOULD'VE KNOWN WHEN LUFFY SET OUT.
@Sazid _ Maybe because they hides dragon full names, just like what they did to Gol D. Roger, they just combined the D to Gold so that's why many people only know Gold Roger and not the D. clan/family
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Naah, I think it proofs the planning ahead. When you are a new mangaka and catch your first puplication in Jump, its not a given, that you will proceed more than one or two books. Just look at the changes from the first two versions "Romance Dawn" to the fist chapter of one piece. He had to find his way and was looking how to make it work. And now the world is unfolding on the paper, like it was growing in his head, when he wasn't cased out.
@@FatManJackson sorry, I was misunderstanding. He was inconsistent in east blue, bc He was Not planning ahed. Now He isn't inconsistent, bc of Peace of mind and planning ahed 🙈
11:40 I like to think that the discussion on Luffy was the last item on the list and we just missed them discussing far more important things like: Dragon’s bounty, the life of Rocks D. Zebec, and the location of Shiki. ;)
I always thought about how the villagers of cocoyashi island paid a total amount of 25 million monthly or something like that to Arlong. So the only thing Nami had to do was getting to 75 million and then ask the villagers to pay the rest and they would be free
couple things i still dont understand: 1. People still calling zoro "pirate hunter" 2. How people still underestimating luffy cuz of how he looks ( flampe was literally mocking luffy and was surprised how he had conq haki)
Zoro was a famous bounty Hunter for several years before becoming a pirate. So his bounty Hunter nickname just kinda carried over And Luffys demeanor doesn’t carry anywhere near the presence of other people in his weight class. So it’s easy to look down on him.
@@nicholasbove3554 1. Zoro never managed to capture any pirate of note in East Blue, the weakest ocean, prior to joining the straw hats. His fame almost exclusively comes from his piracy career. Doubt anyone beyond the first few islands in the East Blue has even heard of the “Pirate Hunter”. 2. There are people far more comical than Luffy, yet somehow never get underestimated. Big Mom is an obese old lady who has the emotional maturity of a 5 year old, and Queen is basically a flamboyant human bowling ball. Really no reason anyone should underestimate the $1.5 billion man who is arguably the most infamous pirate in the world lmao
@@yeee33333 1. They put it on his wanted poster and that’s a big part of how your pirate credit spreads. So Zoros first wanted poster drew from his East blue carrier and now he’s stuck with it. Also it’s implied that Zoros been hunting Named bounties for a few years. 2. It’s about comedy it’s about presence and big mom is a 20 foot tall force of nature that her whole kingdom is trying to prevent from going off. So even if she’s silly she still regularly eats peoples souls. Also luffy is relatively new to the pirate scene. So combine new with silly and the top dogs aren’t gonna give him much thought. Until he punches them in the face and they get real confused
8:30 Kuro also said that when he was thrown off his ship on the cost he spent several days wandering and starving before finding the village except there are only two places where a ship could accost and according to Usopp it would only take 3 minutes to go from one shore to the other and we even see Luffy going the wrong way and ending up at Syrop Village in a bit more than 3 minutes (it took him the same time as it took Usopp to run from one shore to the other except he left before him). So if it only takes about 3 minutes for Luffy to run from the shore to the village it's incomprehensible for Kuro to have spent days traveling the same path. Assuming that Kuro spent 2 days traveling from the shore to the village, that he slept 12 hours a day due to extreme fatigue and that he walked at a pace of 1 km/h it means that there would be a distance of 24 km between the shore and the village which means that for Luffy to reach it in 3 minutes he would have to be running at a constant speed of 480 km/h over 24 km and that's just not possible 😂
I completely agree but I don't think kuro was "thrown off the ship" and probably made that up and no one questioned it or luffy can really run 480km/h over 24km, it's obvious which is the case
@@xcalixus well, Kuro did say that the people of the ship he was working on “marooned him here”. Also, Luffy's traveling speed pre-timeskip can pretty consistently be calculated around 130 km/h both from sprinting alongside Kaloo who is stated to be faster than a cheetah and from running from Cricket's house to Mocktown and back in about 3 hours going South while it took the Merry 3 days to go from Mocktown to Cricket's house going North even though Luffy's path was was much longer (putting him at 128 km/h) which would in fact make Jaya a pretty big island which is kind of corroborated by Luffy, Usopp and Sanji needing nearly a full day to go from one end of Skypiea to the other despite days lasting longer in the sky. We can also estimate Usopp and Brook's speed and we know Luffy is in between them with Nami and Usopp having speeds of 55 km/h and 60 km/h as both can outrun a sabertooth tiger (50 km/h) while Brook would have a speed of 160 km/h if we consider the fact that he had the same speed as Usopp when he was alive but now only has 14% of his initial mass remaining making him much faster. So basically Luffy can't run at a speed of 480 km/h on 24 km but could run at +130 km/h on 460 km if he didn't have to carry the gold.
Maybe the Jinbe and Arlong as an equals concept was from the misconception they were in the same crew. Just look at Buggy. People assumed he was strong after they found out about his relationship with Shanks and Roger.
He’s going to look like such a fool at the end of the series when it’s revealed that EVERYTHING in the series was all part of kuro’s plan to make him the pirate king and he kills Luffy.
The only thing wrong with early OP is I hadn't subscribed to the GrandLineReview yet and didn't have One Piece content injected straight into my RUclips feed.
I always thought it was weird how Alivida went from a chongus and dumbass to smooth and tactical. Did the smooth smooth DF boost her intelligence? It should be the opposite, smooth brain lmfao. Buggy too, he was a kid with no DF legit fighting some of the biggest crews period. IMO Buggy should be as strong as a Yonko commander. But he's a clown, literally lol.
I just got into the Skypiea arc today and man how they got up there had me thinking wow this writing really loves his dirty jokes. Knock-up stream anyone? You know it erupts randomly every time XD
I think Shanks losing an arm you could say he was so worried about saving Luffy he completely lost his composure, and putting his own body in front of Luffy was a split section reaction because he saw so much potential in Luffy as the future, and at this point even knew Luffy was sungod Nika because he'd eaten the fruit
I did not see an issue in Buggy's flashback in Orange town. I thought the contrast with the Roger pirates flashback was because we saw things from his perspective. He probably started out with those cruel ideas, but eventually changed because of the crew. I think Roger's death caused him to revert to his old ways.
It was a very close call for Shanks. Beating the sea monster in time to stop it hitting Luffy was out of the question and he didn't have time for an alternative, so he only could push Luffy to the side and got hit instead.
I think one thing that’s not discussed enough about One Piece and Oda’s writing in general is that initially, he didn’t know how long One Piece would go on for. Once it really took off and he had the comfort to plan for long term you can really see how improved & more consistent his writing got.
Kuro’s plan I thought was to retire in Syrup Village with the respect of the townsfolk to vouch for him. He spent 3 years to gain the trust of the people, because had he just had jango hypnotize Kaia off the bat, the village would have been like hmm something’s fishy here why would Kaia give her vast fortune to this random mf. He also lied to his crew and said they would gain money from the raiding of the village and from Kaia’s house but in reality he wanted to create a pirate problem long enough to where the death of Kaia wouldn’t be suspicious and could be blamed on them but also he was gonna kill the crew anyway because he wanted to retire and never get caught, his plan never included killing all the townsfolk. Probably out of fear of the Marines coming by one day.
I just think “sacrificing arm for next gen” is a dumb answer. It’s outright silly tbh. Like… he didn’t need to lose his arm to the giant scary sea monster to impart the “sea is dangerous” wisdom.
The way I like to think of the Shanks arm situation: we see countless times the cliche of someone being saved at the last second, with no injuries. Well, it's just that this time, Shanks was a tiny bit later than the cliche, with no choice but to sacrifice the ol' arm, haki be damned. I also "heard" that an editor told Oda to make him lose an arm, so there's that.
the fact that shanks lost his arm to the lord of the coast will never sit well with me, it was amazing when I first watched it but after learning more about Shanks just makes it terribly unbelievable. And can we please talk about how it looked like early on even Oda was not entirely sure how Devil Fruits worked
10:25 You missed the Elephant in the room -The very first episodes when Higuma threw luffy in the sea,, Luffy was shown to be able to thread a little bit instead of sinking immediately like an anchor
Though a bit lame, most all of these things make sense. For example, Sanji just forgot about that devil fruit users sink in the moment due to all of the craziness going on at the time. Actually feels like a pretty human thing to do, especially when you likely just witnessed it in person for the first time. Yes, a lot of these are intuitive. Just because Shanks is really strong doesn't mean he wasn't tired out from swimming all the way out there to get to Luffy. Though it is strange that Luffy didn't immediately sink when the guy kicked him off. He even wore a shirt that said "anchor" lol. Early minor things that don't ruin scenes like this, thankfully, as the important thing is that they're still thematically consistent.
There is one thing that I always wondered about the east blue saga. How does the Baratie makes enough money? It doesn't seem like they would see a lot of traffic and running a restaurant ship seems quite expensive.
Plot shock: a few viewers who watched the senior meeting at Marines Headquarters....the viewers realized that Luffy is very special. Son of Dragon, grandson of Garp, ate gum-gum devil fruit that Shank's crew stole from the Marines
Remember in Syrup village when Captain Kuro and Jango disscussed their super secret plan right out in open on a beach where literally anyone passing by could hear them? And guess what happened? Luffy and Usopp just happened to be there at the same time and conviniently heard everything that Kuro said.
To be honest that marine meeting was called to discuss the event where son of the leader of the Revolutionary Army was fighting against former Sun Pirates. I don't think RA was active in the East Blue so I would say that meeting was justified.
From a military administrative aspect it makes sense to discuss Luffy's and Arlong's interactions in east blue during a senior level meeting because of the role a marine captain played in it not unlike the fort hood report for the us army. Public trust is a very important thing for an all volunteer force because it brings in new recuits and when your current force can only take one yonko recruiting becomes a priority.
Nothing, there I explained the video. There is nothing wrong with OP. Despite what the video says there is nothing wrong. CP 0 is on its way to “explain” to GLR that there is nothing wrong.
Ive read the manga up until odens backstory, so a bit behind. The anime I started watching a month ago, currently at little garden, chopper up next. Feels nostalgic.
I feel that the Netflix One Piece live action is in a very unique position of opportunity here. This may sound blasphemous, but really, they have the opportunity to surpass any adaptation of One Piece ever. Removing these flaws, they could have a perfect show with all the right setup and payoffs. They could, in theory, stray from the source material, while not straying from the story and its soul. If they pull it off, the enigma that "One Piece is not mainstream" would vanish, and One Piece would gain the recognition it deserves, that is, that of being one of the greatest adventure tales (if not the greatest) ever put to pages.
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Bro i want Gol D Rogers's action figure
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In an alternative univers there whuld be Gol.D Ace
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If Shanks’ foot is worth 100 Mio Berries, isn’t the local sea monster incredibly rich?
A handy amount of cash indeed
@@victornofoa2279 he is living in the most beautifully palace in atlantis
By one piece standards, that sea monster probably has a bounty as high as caribou.
So rich that it shïts currencies
The sea king was preparing for the great depression 🤣🤣 investing for his future kids
Arlong may not be as strong as Jinbei overall, but he does have an advantage over Jinbei in the form of a long nose, which we know to be an indicator of incredible power. Examples of that being God Usopp/Sniper King.
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@@Seven-9090 why are you so mad?
@@Seven-9090 why u gotta be such a sussy Baka all of the things they sad was true
@@Shaxdyd cringe ngl
Nami's alcoholism resurfaces every now and again, like in Skypiea and Fishman Island.
it's only due to Nami's incredible sleight of hand that we as viewers/readers don't see her frequently pulling out a flask to take the edge off
@@BlackLightAttack I would like To believe this theory. She's so slick with the sleight of hand. And when we do see it resurface as he pointed out then that was just she was getting that drunk that she wasn't able to hide it as well
I also realized she was barely legal...
Also in whisky peak
@@vailingbow1068 barely legal is still legal 😏
But overall still, the early One Piece has a special place in our hearts
Hands down
There's nothing in this world that makes my heart shake like listening to 1-5 openings, so many feelings and memories from my childhood
@@Danienti true 👍
Very true. One Piece will always hold a special place in my heart. It may sound weird but One Piece saved my life.
@@Danienti especially the first ending song, Memories. Oh man, that and Wind really hits home
The fact that we can say that early Onepiece is so inconsistent just goes to show how consistent the manga eventually becomes. It’s really fascinating seeing those retcons and early idea that had to get changed because it shows us Oda’s thought process. Great video!
And tbh, those inconsistencies aren't even that big.
Oda sensei was still an assistant before One piece. Of course these are some small consistent...because of Oda hard work, 20 hours a day for 20+ years... One piece is a masterpiece today.
Not a single one of that "Inconsistencies" is of actual importance to anything anything. Maybe the Sanji one with the devil fruit, but if oda cared he could explain it easily. For example "Sanji actually only read some devil fruit entries, he didn't read the overall info on devil fruits" or some shit like that. Also who cares
@@sebitei I hate seeing this noted as an inconsistency on so many videos because I always thought it could be explained as “he forgot”. After all, considering Sanji’s surprise to Luffy’s devil fruit abilities, it’s easy to assume that he, as well as everyone else in the East Blue, never came across Devil fruit users. So I believe it’s not silly to assume that that detail about DF users just didn’t cross his mind. Especially considering, the heat of excitement after Krieg’s defeat. Far from a plot hole or big inconsistency.
@@vailingbow1068 big facts. Most of these inconsistencies are pretty tiny compared to other shonen of that era
Also, I want to take a moment to realize that Kuro was apparently "the second most intelligent person in all of East Blue", just behind BENN BECKMAN
maybe east blue is not the most intelligent place in the world
Well shiki talk about east blue like the most "weak" sea, and some say it's the most peaceful of the 4 sea, so maybe when there is someone intelligent, there are like : Its big brain time 🤷♂️
and Nami is the third lol
Read it in Kizaru's voice
and right in front of NAMI
I am not suprised a long running series like One Piece has inconsistencies. Shorter series of great quality have inconsistencies too.
Don’t come in here and bring logic and goodwill.
Some of these aren't even inconsistencies though. Some of these are easily explainable
And those shorter ones have bigger inconsistencies sometimes too.
Yeah man, see jojo for example
Ah shorter than one piece? What a rarity
Shanks has stated that he "bet" his arm on the new era, which I guess means he willingly let the sea king eat his arm, with the idea that it'd make Luffy realize that the sea is dangerous and postpone his departure until he was older and stronger. Maybe if he'd come out completely unscathed Luffy would have kept insisting he take him along, or even stow away in his ship, and become a pirate way earlier than Shanks thought he should.
EDIT: to clarify, I know that Shanks losing his arm was an editor's idea. What I'm saying is only a retroactive explanation for what does indeed feel like an inconsistency given today's power levels.
theres many ways to traumatize a kid about being pirate is dangerous not just sacrifising ones arm... hes just weak to protecc his arm from fishbite
@@ichiruki.forever To Luffy? u think he would have understand? He'll understand only after something happens to his friends cuz of his ignorance. We're talking about a seven year old kid who didn't say a word that would betray his friends even after a whole day of torture.
@UCAGbjUmlan_g9iVbiXyH_kg Definitely not, even though Oda may not have planned the entirety of One Piece from the start Shanks being a strong pirate is very obviously planned from the start. I mean Shanks literally just tells the sea king to fuck off the second it takes his arm. We are also told pretty early on in the east blue that Shanks is a great pirate, the scene with Shanks and Mihawk happens right after Baratie. So Oda when he drew that scene of Shanks definitely already had it in his mind that he was very strong.
@@ichiruki.forever by that logic luffy stronger than shanks
Ya i read this and think it's probably a defining moment for him.
The situation with Shanks gets addressed at post Enies lobby when Whitebeard asks him “everyone was surprised that you lost an arm, to what formidable enemy did you give it?” And Shank’s response was “I bet it on a new era” so maybe Shank chose to lose the arm to inspire Luffy to be a pirate
maybe, not a bad theory.
@@mosestiai8621 it was to show luffy that the sea is dangerous and its not a game
@@mosestiai8621 being a pirate is not a game
@@Human_traain I know its not a game, all I said was maybe his theory is correct not that yours isnt.
I just think “sacrificing arm for next gen” is a dumb answer.
It’s outright silly tbh.
Like… he didn’t need to lose his arm to the giant scary sea monster to impart the “sea is dangerous” wisdom.
Kuro wanted to live a normal life away from piracy. That’s why he wanted to gain the trust of the villagers and kaya. After doing so, he would raid the village, get kaya to give up her fortune, and then live a normal life, while blaming the pirates for killing kaya. This way the marines wouldn’t be alerted of captain kuro’s return and so kurahadol would live a nice quiet life in a mansion.
He could've easily just done that all in day 1. There was no need to gain trust. And he never says what he would do when facing the WG. He just says later on that he was always gonna kill them.
I just watched this arc for the first time, so I can confirm what you're saying is correct, he wanted to stay and have a peaceful life with the villagers, but the bigger plothole here is why didn't he just hypnotise the villagers day one? Is it because the hypnotism is temporary or is that reaching too much?
So he's Yoshikage Kira
@@captainperiwinkle I think the hypnotism was something he was forced into when he realized he wasn't getting in that will with his first plan. He's basically the butler from Aristocats, only he's the one with cat claws.
@@captainperiwinkle If he wanted to live in peace with them why did he want his crew to pillage the village?
11:38
The average bounty in the east blue is 3 million berries. Buggy, Arlong and Krieg were the 3 top dogs of an entire ocean. Defeating the three like that certainly would warrant such commotion from the navy's part.
The marines setting up a senior meeting makes a lot of sense when you realize that they probably were wary because Luffy's full name was quite similar to their legendary hero Garp.
and dragon
Iirc they are wary of luffy defeating problematic figures within east blue (consecutively with short intervals)
They probably did the same with kid, law and other rookies before they get their own bounties
Also it's been clearly stated that Luffy was given an unprecedented starting bounty, especially for an East Blue pirate, so it stands to reason that a few higher ups would object to it before getting the details, and then a meeting would have to be called to explain and justify the bounty before it gets approved. (Although I'm betting that if not for his relations to Garp and Dragon, the turnout would be much smaller.)
And we would later learn that the Gomu gomu no mi was pretty special, and maybe they recognized the straw hat?
was gonna like but i dont wanna undo the 69 likes so i comment
In the Arlong arc, when Luffy is underwater technically his feet are in concrete so he sinks faster but retains a tiny bit of movement
Edit: nah, that's still pretty clearly nonsense Odamnesia is surely at play
His hands shouldnt be covering his mouth
now that's some plot spackle i can live with.
Is this an anime only thing or is there also movement in the manga (And by manga movement, I'm referring to the way manga artists draw panels to convey movement of the characters)
@@pizzweak580
Luffy does have rock on foot in manga yes.
Edit: chapter 84 Luffy does the hand over mouth fingers in nose thing.
He first enters the water in chapter 83 and spends weeks of irl time underwater,, multiple chapters
@@lulu4882 that's all I do everyday. Headcannon away the plot holes
I believe he sacrificed his arm to help Luffy realise that the sea is a dangerous place. Luffy knew Shanks was strong, so seeing Shanks lose his arm would make Luffy delay his decision of going out to the sea and hence Luffy would be safe until he was ready to turn the world upside down.
Yeah pretty sure its more like the story was a 5 year long story back then and it would make sense in that circumstance. Now tho. It doesnt. 24 years later you know.
It also teaches Luffy what it means to protect your nakama. It's not a matter of going out, fists swinging, defending people's honor or some crap. It means a lot more than that. Sometimes it means personal sacrifice. It's not a matter of whether you can take care of yourself. Can you take care of your people? This is what that looks like, kiddo.
This is why Luffy decides he wants to gather a crew of his own after he gets stronger.
True indeed...
@@14thsomebodyelse or it was just to close to not lose his arm? He is not god u dont know how much time he had. how tf is the argument that he invincible we never even saw him fight
@@gdulheflljasduhdzccvm9926 he fought mihawk and won... He's also a Haki user. No, the only possibilities are either he did it on purpose to get a message to Luffy, or it is just a giant plot hole.
I feel like 99% of the inconsistencies in East Blue can be explained by either Oda not knowing how the story would pan out years in the future or characters just being overwhelmingly stupid
Characters being overwhelmingly stupid is something thats already pressent and i question how you guys deal with it
@@Lemontarts01 it's funny hahah and it goes well with the story. honestly one piece will always remain one of my favorite, especially since I started watching and reading it since I was little, so there is a bit of nostalgia there. That being said I think it's one of the best shonen out there, it keeps that sense of adventure and wonder (you still don't know how the ending will be), it's perfect for the demographic it's aimed. Obviously it's not the anime you watch if you want something dark or some topics to be treated seriously. But I think it's one of the few that it's well made and stayed pure shonen, even tho there are some inconsistency, but it's nothing, in my opinion that prevent enjoying it
I think with Zoro in the early manga anyway with him contradicting the character we know. I get the impression that Oda wanted to make Zoro originally more of a doubtful character. Like could he actually be trusted on what he said or not?
But I think as the story went on. Oda scrapped that idea for Zoro's character and made his a straightforward swordsman who considers it dishonourable to go back on his word.
Zoro was kinda like law, even the facial expression the first time we meet them, kinda the "cool and dark boiz"
@@playertube6490 and then Law pulled of that face in 1002
zoro was originally gonna be one of the buggy pirates, so i guess that makes sense.
@@royolaniye6643 is that the one where law doesn't want to be the first one to dodge
I've got possible explanations I've leaned on for some of these.
- Alvida was probably just similar enough to Luffy to lack foresight on her sea voyages. So a nerd like Koby was a massive stroke of luck.
- Roger Pirates. Two possibilities.
1) A vast amount of the group just hadn't physically been in the Grand Line or on the crew long enough to see Devil Fruits themselves.
2) It's one thing to see a guy create shockwaves by punching the air, it's another thing to believe he actually got those powers from eating a bad tasting fruit.
Now that you laid it out in front of us, Kuro’s plan has more holes in it than metaphorical buttholes Helmeppo has on his body.
Kuro had to wait the 3 years, just to be a trustworthy element of the village so people wouldn't suspect him for ereditating the money
He wanted to gain everyone's trust and get the money after the pirates kill the girl
So just hypnotise the village into trusting him.
@@GrandLineReview He could have hypnotized the entire village to make it so that he was just a member of Kaya’s family and the heir of her fortune! Cats are known for having 9 lives, not brains.
@@GrandLineReview Kuro never says it outright, but personally I think the "Kurahadol" ruse was also meant to train himself and see how well he could (re)adjust to civilian life after years of living in a cutthroat environment. If he wants to live in retirement, he has to interact with wider society sooner or later, and he can't hypnotize (or kill) *every* person who gets the tiniest bit suspicious.
I'm not sure what percentage of a person an arm is but if you think about it shanks probably invested more than 100 million on Luffy
A male arm is listed as being 5,70% of the total mass.
As Shanks' bounty is 4,048,900,000 berries, this totals to 230,787,300 berries.
So you are correct!
I really didn’t need to be attacked like that first thing in the morning. “Drinks pulp”
I actually don’t care if the Orange juice has pulp in it or not, so I always drink the orange juice regardless if it has pulp in it or not.
Pulp is superior anyway
If it doesn't feel like I'm drinking a solid... is it really orange juice? GLR is just wrong here.
Buggy saying tart is mild compared to Loki calling Natasha "a mewling quim." in Avengers.
For real
10:40 Shanks and Buggy were once equals as well and Oda stated that Buggy became weak and lazy while Shanks kept training which is why they have such a gap in power and that it could also have been the other way around if their situations had been inverted.
Arlong did the same by settling in the weakest sea.
Moreover, Jinbei was consistently shown to be stronger than Arlong as he defeated Rear-Admiral Strawberry who should be somewhat relative in power to pre-timeskip X Drake while Arlong would never be able to defeat a decent Captain like pre-timeskip Smoker and Hina or post-timeskip Coby and Tashigi who are 2 ranks below Rear-Admiral.
In my opinion the only Captain he would be able to defeat is Morgan.
So this may just be a misconception from East Blue inhabitants due to the fact that Jinbei and Arlong are the (two) most prominent figures of the Sun Pirates being Fisher Tiger.
Also, if Jinbei was chosen as a Warlord instead of Arlong then this had to mean he was inevitably more powerful than him no matter what Yosaku said.
Shanks: "eh... didn't really like that arm anyway"
you did not dead ça
“Well.. I didn’t really wanna be too powerful. I’ll just settle for Yonko”
plot twist, he sacrificed the arm so that mihawk will no longer be his rival and wont bug him for duels anymore.
and it turns out shanks dropped off zoro in that dojo specifically so he'd be into swordsmanship to dehtrone mihawk in the future.
@@aldenmcgrath9722 And it turns out, he was Rick from Rick and Morty in disguise trying to get Luffy to be King of The Pirates to get his phone battery to work again
"A boy that also nobody cares about" - yeah, not like he's MONKEY D., like the hero of the marines and the leader of the revolutionary army.
But the world didn't know that. In fact it wasn't until the war that the world knew who Luffy really was
@@Nameless82284 What didn't they know, how to compare identical names and arriving at a logical conclusion?
@@Maronics Names don't always mean one is related. It could just be a coincidence. Just because his name is Monkey D. Luffy doesn't necessarily mean he's related Garp and Dragon just by the name alone.
Regarding Kuro's plan to not just immediately hypnotize her he probably wanted to be safe given Jango is only able to do hypnosis right about 1/3 of the time
The "Wtf" next to Kuro at 8:06 fucking kills me because I remember watching that scene years ago and thinking, "What kind of fucking stance is that?"
IS THAT A JOJOS REFERENCE?!
To be fair
All orange juice is weird reconstituted zombie juice
*drinks it obnoxiously loudly*
I think shanks gave his arm to show luffy that the sea isnt as kind as he thinks. It's a dangerous thing to set sail to the seas. I remember shanks talking to rayleigh and telling him that he met a kid who said EXACTLY what roger did. So I think he did that as a wager to the next generation to quote the man himself
I think Shanks was dying n saw that there was no cure n the poison was spreading from his arm to the rest of the body so he decided to jxt let the sea monster eat his arm
Lol, there are many ways to warn someone than being sn idioy by losing your arm... i mean.... lets use our brain a bit
The point of Kuro's plan was to retire from piracy entirely and live a comfortable, peaceful life. The three years of servitude was to endear the butler Klahadore to the townsfolk and make himself a respected fixture of Syrup Village. Hypnotizing Kaya to write the will had to wait until Klahadore was well known and liked, so nobody would question that she left her fortune to him. The pirate raid was a way to kill Kaya without raising suspicion that she was being targeted specifically. And the killing of his own crew was to remove any loose end that could potentially link back to his past as a pirate.
It's insanely convoluted, yes, but it makes sense from a logistical standpoint.
I've always thought that shanks lost his arm due to the sudden nature of the event. Like the only thing on his mind was to save Luffy no matter the cost. And that the creature was already too close to Luffy for him to save him without getting hurt.
yeah but its not like he wasnt used to that or didnt know how to use armament haki because remember he was mihawk’s rival also just added mihawk is old as shi-
Maybe the two flashbacks reflect the focal character’s perspective? From Buggy’s perspective, he and Shanks were practically adults, but from the perspective of Oden or Yamato reading Oden’s journal, Shanks and Buggy were still but a pair of wee kiddos.
In Kuro's case, it might have been because it would have been suspicious for him to just show up, then suddenly Kaya gives him the inheritance. I think he didn't hypnotize the villagers because it would have been too challenging for Jango, I mean, that guy gets hypnotized by himself... Also if Kuro just killed the entire village it would have caught the Marines's attention.
Yea Kuro did say that as well
Don’t forget Kuro canonically has the second highest IQ of those from the East Blue
Shhhh..... We don't want to remember that! 🤫
That's rough
Benn Beckman isn't even from the East Blue, so technically Kuro's got the highest IQ.
In the start of the series I thought Shanks was just a small pirate but a kind and good one and when luffy enters grand line he knows Shanks has been killed and he will avenge him
Yeah, nothing implied for me that Shanks is this famous and powerful pirate.
i kinda guessed that he was powerful but not because i knew anything about one piece. he and his crew just seemed strong
@@FlauFly Probably because the story takes place in Luffys perspective and you aren't given those details until the characters find out themselves.
@L Lawliet that means dude literally nerfed himself
i always thought that shanks sacrificed his arm on purpose to teach luffy a lesson about how dangerous the sea is. he didnt want luffy to rush out into the sea prematurely and die.
Viz still gets me mad they still haven’t changed “shadow doppelgänger” to “shadow clone” for the Naruto/Boruto manga even tho it’s universally known as clone by every Naruto fan
Do they still Call Zoro "Zolo"?
@@Pikachu2Ash yaa they still do
Many speak of the day in which Luffy and Shanks will reunite, or perhaps the when Usopp will finally meet Yasopp. But I only hope to see an encounter between Coby and Alvida.
Oh god the poor girl would have no chance. She will see him and suddenly find herself stuck in the ground upside down with her feet flailing around.
Perhaps we will one day see an epic sniper team up of Usopp and Sogeking!
From what I understood Kuro was under heat from the marines so he had no choice but to go undercover for three years. Then once the marines forgot about him he decided to execute his plan.
Shanks lost his arm on purpose. It was to motivate Luffy into becoming a pirate because if Luffy feels some sort of debt towards Shanks it will make him want to repay it by becoming stronger.
ehhhhhh..
Uhhh …
Kids nowadays.... haysh
I think with Sanji's case it was because the manual just listed the types and their abilities, not the weakness because it was usually common knowledge to those who already knew about devil fruits. All he knew was that it comes with a curse, but he didn't know what exactly. The more likely reason is that, as he said, he wasn't interested in it. As a child, he probably just read the names and looked past the pictures.
Except Sanji indicated that back then, he knew about the weakness, which is why the other fruits didn't interest him.
My own take is that Sanji's "why didn't you tell me sooner?!" came from a place of (subconsciously) not *wanting* to believe that Devil Fruits took away your swimming ability until he had literally no other choice. Luffy was the first proof he had that Devil Fruits were real at all - but that doesn't mean he had to believe *everything* in the book from his childhood (which he probably read in-between bits of _Liar Noland_) was true, and who among us hasn't fantasized about having our cake and eating it too, every once in a while?
The matter-of-fact way he discusses it later on, with Absalom, happened months after he met Luffy and got used to Devil Fruits; hence his "Meh, I was never *really* that interested in them!" air about the whole thing.
@@mortiphasm5597 No I reread it as I typed this comment and he said that it came with a weakness, but he didn’t specify. He also didn't say he knew what it was in the first place.
Or Sanji’s just relieved after winning against Don Krieg and forgot a bit about the DF’s curse. He might imply his word as why was he not reminded sooner
One word to summarize everything wrong with early one piece: "Ace"
Ace wasnt even in early one piece bbut fair enough!
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@@14thsomebodyelse he was in alabasta, which was kinda early, but yeah fair enough
I dont get it
Edit: nvm i got it, its because ace did wrong things that caused the death of alot of peoples
I don't think you understand basic storytelling, but think what you want
Shanks said so himself, he bet his arm in the next generation. Now that we know that the gomu gomu fruit is somehow special it makes even more sense to "bet" on Luffy. So, as weird as it sounds, I guess he lost it on purpose.
The meeting to discuss Luffy’s first bounty was warranted; Luffy has been on their radar since day 1 because of Dragon & Garp
That literally makes no sense because Garp was trying to keep Luffy and Ace hidden and that they didn't know when Luffy set out. He didn't tell anyone.
@@vailingbow1068 his bounty said his last name. They knew exactly who he was
@Sazid _ at that time, smoker wasnt a vice admiral yet
@@SincereWords Bro. They didn't know that Dragon was connected to Luffy. I'm sure Garp would've kept it quiet until Marineford. And what use is it if Garp is his known grandson? Nothing. And you haven't even commented on the fact NO ONE WOULD'VE KNOWN WHEN LUFFY SET OUT.
@Sazid _
Maybe because they hides dragon full names, just like what they did to Gol D. Roger, they just combined the D to Gold so that's why many people only know Gold Roger and not the D. clan/family
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This video is for those who think Oda's strength lies in planning ahead, instead of improvising and adapting.
Naah, I think it proofs the planning ahead. When you are a new mangaka and catch your first puplication in Jump, its not a given, that you will proceed more than one or two books. Just look at the changes from the first two versions "Romance Dawn" to the fist chapter of one piece. He had to find his way and was looking how to make it work. And now the world is unfolding on the paper, like it was growing in his head, when he wasn't cased out.
@@SaridenChan lmao you gave an argument for why he did not plan ahead. Its not a given that you will proceed more than one or two books.
@@FatManJackson sorry, I was misunderstanding. He was inconsistent in east blue, bc He was Not planning ahed. Now He isn't inconsistent, bc of Peace of mind and planning ahed 🙈
@@SaridenChan but he is. There are plenty of videos showing Oda's inconsistencies lol its not a bad thing anyways.
11:40 I like to think that the discussion on Luffy was the last item on the list and we just missed them discussing far more important things like: Dragon’s bounty, the life of Rocks D. Zebec, and the location of Shiki. ;)
Every time i watch the First episode, i wonder how luffys head broke those swords •_•
I always thought about how the villagers of cocoyashi island paid a total amount of 25 million monthly or something like that to Arlong. So the only thing Nami had to do was getting to 75 million and then ask the villagers to pay the rest and they would be free
Kuro just wants a quiet life. He wants to live in the upper-east section of Morio- oh wait wrong person
'I understood that reference.'
Story starts with Wealth, Fame and Power but as chapters progressed, Wealth became unimportant part(except to determine bounties).
For shank's arm, I always thought it wasn't that he lost it, but rather sacrificed it to push Luffy to who he is now
couple things i still dont understand:
1. People still calling zoro "pirate hunter"
2. How people still underestimating luffy cuz of how he looks ( flampe was literally mocking luffy and was surprised how he had conq haki)
Zoro was a famous bounty Hunter for several years before becoming a pirate. So his bounty Hunter nickname just kinda carried over
And Luffys demeanor doesn’t carry anywhere near the presence of other people in his weight class. So it’s easy to look down on him.
@@nicholasbove3554 1. Zoro never managed to capture any pirate of note in East Blue, the weakest ocean, prior to joining the straw hats. His fame almost exclusively comes from his piracy career. Doubt anyone beyond the first few islands in the East Blue has even heard of the “Pirate Hunter”.
2. There are people far more comical than Luffy, yet somehow never get underestimated. Big Mom is an obese old lady who has the emotional maturity of a 5 year old, and Queen is basically a flamboyant human bowling ball. Really no reason anyone should underestimate the $1.5 billion man who is arguably the most infamous pirate in the world lmao
@@yeee33333 1. They put it on his wanted poster and that’s a big part of how your pirate credit spreads. So Zoros first wanted poster drew from his East blue carrier and now he’s stuck with it. Also it’s implied that Zoros been hunting Named bounties for a few years.
2. It’s about comedy it’s about presence and big mom is a 20 foot tall force of nature that her whole kingdom is trying to prevent from going off. So even if she’s silly she still regularly eats peoples souls.
Also luffy is relatively new to the pirate scene. So combine new with silly and the top dogs aren’t gonna give him much thought. Until he punches them in the face and they get real confused
8:30 Kuro also said that when he was thrown off his ship on the cost he spent several days wandering and starving before finding the village except there are only two places where a ship could accost and according to Usopp it would only take 3 minutes to go from one shore to the other and we even see Luffy going the wrong way and ending up at Syrop Village in a bit more than 3 minutes (it took him the same time as it took Usopp to run from one shore to the other except he left before him).
So if it only takes about 3 minutes for Luffy to run from the shore to the village it's incomprehensible for Kuro to have spent days traveling the same path.
Assuming that Kuro spent 2 days traveling from the shore to the village, that he slept 12 hours a day due to extreme fatigue and that he walked at a pace of 1 km/h it means that there would be a distance of 24 km between the shore and the village which means that for Luffy to reach it in 3 minutes he would have to be running at a constant speed of 480 km/h over 24 km and that's just not possible 😂
I completely agree but I don't think kuro was "thrown off the ship" and probably made that up and no one questioned it or luffy can really run 480km/h over 24km, it's obvious which is the case
Are you applying real world physics to one piece???
@@xcalixus well, Kuro did say that the people of the ship he was working on “marooned him here”.
Also, Luffy's traveling speed pre-timeskip can pretty consistently be calculated around 130 km/h both from sprinting alongside Kaloo who is stated to be faster than a cheetah and from running from Cricket's house to Mocktown and back in about 3 hours going South while it took the Merry 3 days to go from Mocktown to Cricket's house going North even though Luffy's path was was much longer (putting him at 128 km/h) which would in fact make Jaya a pretty big island which is kind of corroborated by Luffy, Usopp and Sanji needing nearly a full day to go from one end of Skypiea to the other despite days lasting longer in the sky.
We can also estimate Usopp and Brook's speed and we know Luffy is in between them with Nami and Usopp having speeds of 55 km/h and 60 km/h as both can outrun a sabertooth tiger (50 km/h) while Brook would have a speed of 160 km/h if we consider the fact that he had the same speed as Usopp when he was alive but now only has 14% of his initial mass remaining making him much faster.
So basically Luffy can't run at a speed of 480 km/h on 24 km but could run at +130 km/h on 460 km if he didn't have to carry the gold.
Liam is just perfect for "everything wrong with" content
no, its you
Not really. Most of the things he lists in these kinds of videos are extremely dumb and can be explained away with common sense
The late introduction of Haki in it’s entirety will always be the biggest thing wrong with the first half of One Piece
Maybe the Jinbe and Arlong as an equals concept was from the misconception they were in the same crew. Just look at Buggy. People assumed he was strong after they found out about his relationship with Shanks and Roger.
You dare blasphemies Buggy D. Clown by assuming that he is weak.
He’s going to look like such a fool at the end of the series when it’s revealed that EVERYTHING in the series was all part of kuro’s plan to make him the pirate king and he kills Luffy.
Thank you for the acknowledgement that Jinbe is dashingly handsome, GLR
The only thing wrong with early OP is I hadn't subscribed to the GrandLineReview yet and didn't have One Piece content injected straight into my RUclips feed.
In the anime devil fruit users (or at least Luffy) splash around a bit before sinking.
I always thought it was weird how Alivida went from a chongus and dumbass to smooth and tactical. Did the smooth smooth DF boost her intelligence? It should be the opposite, smooth brain lmfao.
Buggy too, he was a kid with no DF legit fighting some of the biggest crews period. IMO Buggy should be as strong as a Yonko commander. But he's a clown, literally lol.
@6:42 GLR was called a "Tart" in his younger days and has a PTSD flashblack.
I just got into the Skypiea arc today and man how they got up there had me thinking wow this writing really loves his dirty jokes. Knock-up stream anyone? You know it erupts randomly every time XD
The attack about the pulp in orange juice was about as Affective as “your village has been raided by 那覇宮城!” 😑
In 50 years, we will be still asking have you read the newest one piece chapter
Pretty much
"2nd Piece"
@@august6281 oh! Your talking about the 20 year timeskip spin off series
I think Shanks losing an arm you could say he was so worried about saving Luffy he completely lost his composure, and putting his own body in front of Luffy was a split section reaction because he saw so much potential in Luffy as the future, and at this point even knew Luffy was sungod Nika because he'd eaten the fruit
I did not see an issue in Buggy's flashback in Orange town. I thought the contrast with the Roger pirates flashback was because we saw things from his perspective. He probably started out with those cruel ideas, but eventually changed because of the crew. I think Roger's death caused him to revert to his old ways.
It was a very close call for Shanks. Beating the sea monster in time to stop it hitting Luffy was out of the question and he didn't have time for an alternative, so he only could push Luffy to the side and got hit instead.
By the end of one piece Zoro will weald every Kitetsu blade plus his
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It is spelled Wado Ichimonji
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I think one thing that’s not discussed enough about One Piece and Oda’s writing in general is that initially, he didn’t know how long One Piece would go on for. Once it really took off and he had the comfort to plan for long term you can really see how improved & more consistent his writing got.
Kuro’s plan I thought was to retire in Syrup Village with the respect of the townsfolk to vouch for him. He spent 3 years to gain the trust of the people, because had he just had jango hypnotize Kaia off the bat, the village would have been like hmm something’s fishy here why would Kaia give her vast fortune to this random mf. He also lied to his crew and said they would gain money from the raiding of the village and from Kaia’s house but in reality he wanted to create a pirate problem long enough to where the death of Kaia wouldn’t be suspicious and could be blamed on them but also he was gonna kill the crew anyway because he wanted to retire and never get caught, his plan never included killing all the townsfolk. Probably out of fear of the Marines coming by one day.
0:03 WOAH! WOAH! WOAH! That “I don’t know if this is controversial” got holstile so quick…!!! 🤣🤣
I just think “sacrificing arm for next gen” is a dumb answer.
It’s outright silly tbh.
Like… he didn’t need to lose his arm to the giant scary sea monster to impart the “sea is dangerous” wisdom.
Coby was 16 at the time? I thought he was 8 and through Garp magic became a young man over the course a few months!
Answer to everything here: Oda didn’t plan everything ahead
The worlds best authors make mistakes like this, it happens
Not according to some fans. Many think that one piece is perfect and if you point out some plothole they will make their own headCanon explenation.
Most pulp is the only orange juice I drink, half the time I have to just spoon out oranges into a cup
Remember the journey started with a boy in a barrier.. And the rest is history..
The way I like to think of the Shanks arm situation: we see countless times the cliche of someone being saved at the last second, with no injuries. Well, it's just that this time, Shanks was a tiny bit later than the cliche, with no choice but to sacrifice the ol' arm, haki be damned. I also "heard" that an editor told Oda to make him lose an arm, so there's that.
the fact that shanks lost his arm to the lord of the coast will never sit well with me, it was amazing when I first watched it but after learning more about Shanks just makes it terribly unbelievable. And can we please talk about how it looked like early on even Oda was not entirely sure how Devil Fruits worked
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You missed the Elephant in the room
-The very first episodes when Higuma threw luffy in the sea,, Luffy was shown to be able to thread a little bit instead of sinking immediately like an anchor
Though a bit lame, most all of these things make sense. For example, Sanji just forgot about that devil fruit users sink in the moment due to all of the craziness going on at the time. Actually feels like a pretty human thing to do, especially when you likely just witnessed it in person for the first time.
Yes, a lot of these are intuitive. Just because Shanks is really strong doesn't mean he wasn't tired out from swimming all the way out there to get to Luffy. Though it is strange that Luffy didn't immediately sink when the guy kicked him off. He even wore a shirt that said "anchor" lol. Early minor things that don't ruin scenes like this, thankfully, as the important thing is that they're still thematically consistent.
Im so glad you made this video, me and my father was rewarding it and the alabasta arc was so... odd to see how the crew react around eachother
Captain feathersword. You have made my day (well nearly bed time in Australia) 😁
There is one thing that I always wondered about the east blue saga. How does the Baratie makes enough money? It doesn't seem like they would see a lot of traffic and running a restaurant ship seems quite expensive.
About Shanks and The Lord of the Coast, Shanks explained that he gave up his arm to inspire Luffy, or, "bet it on the next generation".
Personally I'd just go with saying "Hey, you're pretty awesome, kid.".
@@calemr why'd any kid become a pirate because you said that?
Plot shock: a few viewers who watched the senior meeting at Marines Headquarters....the viewers realized that Luffy is very special. Son of Dragon, grandson of Garp, ate gum-gum devil fruit that Shank's crew stole from the Marines
If this was everything wrong, then I must admit, there wasn't many things wrong. Good job Oda!
"5 Arlongs, half a Caraboo and 1/40th of Shanks" that killed me! that was fuckin' great!
Remember in Syrup village when Captain Kuro and Jango disscussed their super secret plan right out in open on a beach where literally anyone passing by could hear them? And guess what happened? Luffy and Usopp just happened to be there at the same time and conviniently heard everything that Kuro said.
The only possible reason i can see for shanks loosing that arm is if he wanted to teach luffy something
To be honest that marine meeting was called to discuss the event where son of the leader of the Revolutionary Army was fighting against former Sun Pirates. I don't think RA was active in the East Blue so I would say that meeting was justified.
From a military administrative aspect it makes sense to discuss Luffy's and Arlong's interactions in east blue during a senior level meeting because of the role a marine captain played in it not unlike the fort hood report for the us army.
Public trust is a very important thing for an all volunteer force because it brings in new recuits and when your current force can only take one yonko recruiting becomes a priority.
Nothing, there I explained the video. There is nothing wrong with OP. Despite what the video says there is nothing wrong. CP 0 is on its way to “explain” to GLR that there is nothing wrong.
Hold on, no need to kill someone
Ive read the manga up until odens backstory, so a bit behind. The anime I started watching a month ago, currently at little garden, chopper up next. Feels nostalgic.
Hopefully once One Piece is over and Oda has had a long, long break, he will edit those he should and is able to.
For real, orange juice with pulp makes my skin crawl.
I feel that the Netflix One Piece live action is in a very unique position of opportunity here. This may sound blasphemous, but really, they have the opportunity to surpass any adaptation of One Piece ever. Removing these flaws, they could have a perfect show with all the right setup and payoffs. They could, in theory, stray from the source material, while not straying from the story and its soul. If they pull it off, the enigma that "One Piece is not mainstream" would vanish, and One Piece would gain the recognition it deserves, that is, that of being one of the greatest adventure tales (if not the greatest) ever put to pages.
After Shanks spoke with Mihawk about his arm I got the impression he gave up his arm on purpose to teach/influence Luffy.
Love the vids