Thanks for covering the situation (so far) with clarity, transparency, and without picking sides. Really helps when people don't try to create more drama or trouble than need be.
for a second i thought he got caught cheating speedruns cause he was one of my favourite speedrunners, that's not the case so one good thing I guess. i hope the allegations are false, if not, no surprises there, its the good ol "Minecraft RUclipsr after hitting 100k subs" moment
I personally believe in the whole innocent until proven guilty thing so basically if theres no proof and its just them saying something happened, i will not jump on any bandwagons to execute whoever they dont like
It's a he said she said type thing, with no evidence but a twitlonger, which does suck a lot. People shouldnt come to conclusions before he puts his own word in
This is a flawed mindset because people who do sa people think that they are being slick and no one will know. It's like saying hes so good he has no reason to cheat
@@slivex2988 i have a hunch its another kwite situation the fact illumina is pursuing legal action is good for his innocence and also ive been through this exact situation and the way illumina responds is exactly how i did except i didnt do legal action cause of the couintry i live in
@@goosiefel I think it would be really weird for Illumina to do this. Sexual assaulting can be a big thing and can cause serious drama, impacting his career and possibly even fruit's career. He's a really big content creator and famous speedrunner and people are probably gonna track this down forever. On the other hand, he could be using her mental problems as his leverage. If he actually did this, he's really evil.
@@slivex2988thats why im 60% on illumina side and 40% on the other ive got a feeling its another kwite but i feel its a chill for a while and see what happens
if theres no proof currently out theres literally no reason to think that illumina is guilty as of now. i really dont think stella has any though as illumina is thinking of pursuing legal action, which you would most likely only do if you knew you were innocent. its a real crime hes being accused of and so he definitely realises that if she does have evidence, he would be sent to jail so i dont see why he would go down the legal route if he really was guilty. tldr - theres like a 99% chance illumina is innocent lmao who knows for sure though, this comment might age like fine milk
The entire hbg villa that was rented in Vegas kicked out illumina after stellae showed them screenshots of text messages between her and illumina. It seems very not favourable for illumina.
There is no proof on stellae getting sexually harassed so I believe that Illumina and stellae have a toxic relationship but if stellae did have proof I would immediately go on her side of views
Yeah if this actually happened they would have linked to the case file also there would have been cameras or something or just witnesses but no evidence
@@AniBerry1 cameras? dawg this couldve happened in a hotel bedroom, and as for a case file they probably dont wanna release it bcuz of their full names etc, yes they could blur it out but ppl will find it and leak it
no hate to stellae, but does anyone remember a few years back when she got into a little hot water for defending one of kye's mods that community members had grooming accusations against? am i entirely fabricating this incident
Thanks for covering the situation (so far) with clarity, transparency, and without picking sides. Really helps when people don't try to create more drama or trouble than need be.
for a second i thought he got caught cheating speedruns cause he was one of my favourite speedrunners, that's not the case so one good thing I guess.
i hope the allegations are false, if not, no surprises there, its the good ol "Minecraft RUclipsr after hitting 100k subs" moment
I personally believe in the whole innocent until proven guilty thing
so basically if theres no proof and its just them saying something happened, i will not jump on any bandwagons to execute whoever they dont like
Yeah
@@OmikronClienthai
@@user-8fe84mfm omg
he admitted to it lmao
Yep, she was right. He is a r******
Sad
It's a he said she said type thing, with no evidence but a twitlonger, which does suck a lot. People shouldnt come to conclusions before he puts his own word in
Yoooo icy! I love your content
hes guilty now
I do not believe Illumina would do this. I think he knew this action would ruin his reputation.
This is a flawed mindset because people who do sa people think that they are being slick and no one will know. It's like saying hes so good he has no reason to cheat
@@AniBerry1 i mean it could be, but it's kinda questionable why he would do this?
@@slivex2988 i have a hunch its another kwite situation the fact illumina is pursuing legal action is good for his innocence and also ive been through this exact situation and the way illumina responds is exactly how i did except i didnt do legal action cause of the couintry i live in
@@goosiefel I think it would be really weird for Illumina to do this. Sexual assaulting can be a big thing and can cause serious drama, impacting his career and possibly even fruit's career. He's a really big content creator and famous speedrunner and people are probably gonna track this down forever. On the other hand, he could be using her mental problems as his leverage. If he actually did this, he's really evil.
@@slivex2988thats why im 60% on illumina side and 40% on the other ive got a feeling its another kwite but i feel its a chill for a while and see what happens
if theres no proof currently out theres literally no reason to think that illumina is guilty as of now. i really dont think stella has any though as illumina is thinking of pursuing legal action, which you would most likely only do if you knew you were innocent. its a real crime hes being accused of and so he definitely realises that if she does have evidence, he would be sent to jail so i dont see why he would go down the legal route if he really was guilty.
tldr - theres like a 99% chance illumina is innocent lmao
who knows for sure though, this comment might age like fine milk
The entire hbg villa that was rented in Vegas kicked out illumina after stellae showed them screenshots of text messages between her and illumina. It seems very not favourable for illumina.
the proof was given by illumina himself lmao
There is no proof on stellae getting sexually harassed so I believe that Illumina and stellae have a toxic relationship but if stellae did have proof I would immediately go on her side of views
Yeah if this actually happened they would have linked to the case file also there would have been cameras or something or just witnesses but no evidence
@@AniBerry1 cameras? dawg this couldve happened in a hotel bedroom, and as for a case file they probably dont wanna release it bcuz of their full names etc, yes they could blur it out but ppl will find it and leak it
classic e-girl stereotype of creating false allegations LOL
illumina would NOT do this 🗣🔥🔥
how would you know he wouldn't do it ever since the Sponker, Lucius situations lmao
@@candyiceeLucius? What did he do?
bro admitted to it, delete this.
Guess what lil bro
why is everyone getting exposed 😭😭
world is a cold place.
Me believing he cheated in Minecraft:
Me after: 😬
No way.....
We will see. I’m just so wary about the whole thing and about the tweets… I really hope nothing worse comes from this. Really.
I'm so sorry for illumina 😢 why did he do that, It was such a good speedrunner...
Yeah he's dipping, it's over
I wonder what Josh fruit berries has to say on this
Illumina would not
do this
You don't know him
He did that shit lil bro
no hate to stellae, but does anyone remember a few years back when she got into a little hot water for defending one of kye's mods that community members had grooming accusations against? am i entirely fabricating this incident
What? this happened a month prior before deleting everything?
Thank you for the quick recap hope they allegations are false I love Illlumia and his content
If he did, then i guess he was inspired by dream a bit too much
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this can’t be happening right now
@@-qxoisai No
Nah thats just her bpd
We love swoop
illumina is too skilled to do thisi reckon hes legit as he is a skywars god aswell hes got the skill
tnt swag
good video swoopster
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@@gyden6553 no
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yes. he admitted it.
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