Android Race From WEAKEST To STRONGEST

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  • @Noahbds
    @Noahbds Год назад +152

    "hopefully he isn’t a brainless meathead tat appears in the last 15 min of the movie". Well guess what

  • @Dugga49
    @Dugga49 Год назад +65

    17 also tamed the Cell Jrs and keeps them on his island. Possibly another way he got stronger was sparing with them

    • @toybirdy
      @toybirdy Год назад +13

      Gohan destroyed all the cell jr’s that’s why I hate dbs. I doubt cell was shitting out cell jr’s when he was waiting for the day of the tournament. Dbs anime is just dogshit. Imo I feel like Akira toriyama has nothing to do with the anime there is no proof imo while with the manga they show his correction with the art. Which imo the dbs manga is more canon then the god awful anime where goku needed Ui to beat kefla which is a combination of 2 weak low level saiyans.

    • @stopabledu
      @stopabledu Год назад +16

      @@toybirdy get your point but relax 😂😂😂these are fictional characters who fly and shoot energy balls. never get worked over things that is not based in reality

    • @darkflameofphonix4709
      @darkflameofphonix4709 Год назад +7

      @@toybirdy Kefla is literally a fusion of a ssj2 and a controlled berserk which is probably above ssj3 level. When you consider that ssj Vegito was already like 10 times stronger than ssj3 goku it very much makes sense. I hate the manga version where ultimate Gohan is equal to her, like fusion is pretty much the most powerful thing in the series and Gohan who trained for 5min after not training for years was as strong as her. Also UI still bodied Kefla, it's not like it was close.

    • @Dugga49
      @Dugga49 Год назад +1

      @@toybirdy Well… Kale by herself was giving SSB Goku fits. I wouldn’t say they were weak. The Manga is the place where the Cell Jrs exist, I don’t think they made an anime appearance. Them being alive sorta makes sense, they do regenerate at the cellular level and Gohan mostly just karate chopped them so hard they exploded. Hate it or not, DBS is the canon series following DBZ (technically following the end of Kid Buu arc and right before the introduction of Uub). Some of DBS is cool. Like I like Hit a lot. And the Moro arc in the manga was great. Lots of potential. But I get what your saying.

    • @Amardarial
      @Amardarial Год назад +3

      @@toybirdy DBS makes sense just fine, you just can't understand it is all, like Kelfa being two weak saiyans is just a stupid statement and alone shows zero understanding.

  • @sufisufian7747
    @sufisufian7747 2 года назад +31

    Arale is the ultimate android in the Dragon Ball universe..

  • @monsterwith21faces92
    @monsterwith21faces92 2 года назад +7

    my boi back

  • @Danzig420
    @Danzig420 2 месяца назад +1

    As much as the Cell blowing himself up infinite zenkai boost thing is ridiculous, it’s because of that and many other reasons that he’s never had a legit return to the series. He’s that overpowered and honestly the Z fighters got lucky Gohan pulled it out against him back when SS2 was the peak of power because could you imagine Cell training and or absorbing some of the current era fighters? He’d be right up there with Super Saiyan Blue power easily and keep going from there because he’d never make the mistake he made with Gohan twice as he was far too intelligent for that.

  • @KingDues
    @KingDues 11 месяцев назад +1

    First time to ur video and it sucks cuz this was a year ago but u got another subscriber 🙏🏽💪🏼

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  11 месяцев назад

      Thanks man! Make sure to watch my other ranking videos they got much better 🙏🏼

    • @KingDues
      @KingDues 11 месяцев назад

      @moodzi1322 oh damn u actually said something respect. Yeah I was watching a video on Chuck earlier about movie villans and when u mentioned about how the movie villains are stronger with every next one but there's many points where it shows how that not true . But great video video . Def gonna look at the newer ones

  • @thegamingklown922
    @thegamingklown922 2 года назад +28

    Cell Max is the strongest one now literally was almost unbeatable but he was released early bc of plot armour Gohan had

    • @dylanbanocy7729
      @dylanbanocy7729 Год назад +1

      No he's not because he's not perfect

    • @ligeiasiren4290
      @ligeiasiren4290 Год назад

      He was mid at best. Pan could've take him out with ease.

    • @caurd
      @caurd Год назад

      Then Cell Max is the one who has plot armor

    • @Fazbearingtonthe3rd
      @Fazbearingtonthe3rd Год назад +1

      ​@@ligeiasiren4290ok

  • @hanakoisbestgirl4752
    @hanakoisbestgirl4752 Год назад +2

    "Hopefully he isnt a brainless meathead that appears in the last 15 minutes of the movie" cant tell if you knew already or just predicted it. Its very sadge

  • @j253d
    @j253d Год назад

    I love these in-depth videos about dragon Ball z I grew up as a kid watching the Funimation lol

  • @hussmod
    @hussmod 2 года назад +1

    He is back!

  • @tails512
    @tails512 Год назад +5

    Android 17’s strength makes perfect sense to me. In the Android saga with presumably no training he was far stronger than Frieza. Characters like Goku and Piccolo had to train their entire lives to that point to reach the level of strength 17 had naturally with no work. When Frieza finally trained he reached Super Saiyan Blue levels. If 17 also trained, it’s only logical he would also become that powerful. And of course since he’s a cyborg not a true android he could get stronger. As a side note, if Cell had the chance to train I wouldn’t be surprised if he could reach Jiren levels of power.

  • @LeoneYamada
    @LeoneYamada 7 месяцев назад

    I would like to point out 21 isn't just the strongest android but possibly the strongest CHARACTER we have ever gotten to date... Because she has Saiyan DNA meaning she should have access to zenkais, and she regenerates faster then cell, and she can copy any ability she sees at a glance or just absorb the skill... She can steal power from defeated opponents, and is the smartest fighter to date rivaling even Bulma in intelligence...
    She can do it all.. and if she ever got access to hakai energy she would only become that much more insane as she would then have access to ultra ego making her even more tanky to compliment her regeneration and obviously a power boost well beyond thousands of times multiplier... She would literally just have to absorb Vegeta and she would become unstoppable.... And then if she steals gokus kioken to stack on top of ultra ego and her regeneration she would easily beat just about any character you could think of... Not even characters like gogeta would be able to win as she still has goodness inside of her so the soul punisher wouldn't defeat her... She has every possible battle advantage you can think of as she has infinite stamina health and energy with infinite potential for growth to match... Truly an underused fighter....

  • @isaacmaurice227
    @isaacmaurice227 Год назад +2

    You didn't mention any other robot/Android from GT other than Super 17.

  • @ThePoolo12
    @ThePoolo12 5 месяцев назад +3

    Watching on 2024

  • @mikeclarke5732
    @mikeclarke5732 5 месяцев назад

    17 is at ssj3 level because in the manga it’s revealed he’s been training with cell jrs and domesticating them

  • @therealghostboy9670
    @therealghostboy9670 Год назад

    Watching in 2023 and it’s crazy how you was right about Cell Max being brainless and only appears in the last 15 mins😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Dbz1love
    @Dbz1love Год назад +1

    Android 21 is now Canon... at least if the super hero moive is canon. she is mentioned after all

    • @kwalityhunter
      @kwalityhunter Год назад +5

      She’s somewhat cannon, we know she at least existed as a person but whether she was turned into an Android like in fighterz is unknown

  • @ashtonlange4616
    @ashtonlange4616 Год назад

    “Hopefully he isn’t a meat head that shows up in the last 15 minutes” did you edit that in after you saw the movie. Lololol all of that is true

  • @jaydarke
    @jaydarke 11 месяцев назад

    I just realized. Cell has Freida’s cells. So, between zenkai boosts and some serious training…. If he survived. He could’ve surpassed everyone. Including Freiza’s OP state now.

  • @babynuggethead5576
    @babynuggethead5576 Год назад

    Yasssss 18!!!! We love to see it

  • @driesbogaerts8357
    @driesbogaerts8357 8 месяцев назад +1

    why does evryone forget about Arale Norimaki ?

  • @jonanderyanes5241
    @jonanderyanes5241 Год назад

    Android 13... Baseball cap...? You mean his Trucker Hat

  • @raulparrado1547
    @raulparrado1547 Год назад +1

    21 also appears on Kakarot

  • @alinac.7919
    @alinac.7919 2 года назад

    HES BACK

  • @chasepowers7375
    @chasepowers7375 Год назад

    2023 July 24 I watched the movie yesterday while eating mc-Donnie’s

  • @L4798M
    @L4798M 11 месяцев назад

    given his ability, I don’t really think you can argue android 73 not being the strongest android. it’s such an op ability

    • @moodzi1322
      @moodzi1322  11 месяцев назад

      Abilities mean nothing in dragon ball. Majin buu could literally turn anyone into candy and was basically immortal and can absorb you and he was wrecked by a stronger fighter in Vegito. Babidi has the ability to make your head explode and teleport yet his abilities are ineffective against stronger characters. Heck even garlic Jr can summon a literal black hole and he got one shotted by a 4 year old kid. Hax means nothing in dragon ball. It only helps if your power level was already high like Hit.

  • @donthespotter6550
    @donthespotter6550 Год назад

    My favorite is 16 because he reminds me of Robo from Chrono Trigger

  • @Koppu1doragon
    @Koppu1doragon Год назад

    Actually a bit of a misunderstanding with Super 17, he does not become that strong outright, he gets to be that strong by absorbing energy, in fact you could argue he was extremely weak outside of his ability to absorb energy because well, he ended up only needing a single hit to kill.

    • @supesisfodder7427
      @supesisfodder7427 Год назад

      Incorrect tho with the fusion he did get that strong

  • @justcallmebeety
    @justcallmebeety Год назад

    Super 17 is the strongest android because no one can beat him when he’s Super 17.

  • @KamiSquad_X
    @KamiSquad_X Год назад

    DBS 17 going "blow for blow" with SSB Goku. Do you not realize they were just sparring?? Sparring is not a real fight.

  • @Rhoyzor
    @Rhoyzor Год назад

    Should Aniraza be on this list? Technically not an android but fused of three robots and dr. paparoni to form and androish look and stuff? Also super powerful

  • @richardsmall8940
    @richardsmall8940 11 месяцев назад

    Before super I always thought cell had the android number 21

  • @illbeback7313
    @illbeback7313 2 года назад +1

    I'm watching it in the future I saw the two new androids there's a nice plot twist to super hero @moodzi gamma 1 and gamma 2 where dope characters I would love to see them more in the series cell max my opinion was like another broly scene but Gohan and piccolo instead of Vegeta and goku

  • @dylangladhill234
    @dylangladhill234 2 года назад

    It is not a baseball cap it’s a trucker hat

  • @GeorgianaLofton
    @GeorgianaLofton 2 месяца назад

    One of the androids was specifically made to fight Goku!

  • @tylerharper5306
    @tylerharper5306 Год назад +282

    Damn that ending prediction for cell max is spot on

    • @vonmaximoff1742
      @vonmaximoff1742 Год назад +2

      Literally!

    • @toumabyakuya
      @toumabyakuya Год назад +2

      I mean, it was explained why he is like that (and honestly, Geddo himself is the villain of this flick).

    • @mardaumlauf7749
      @mardaumlauf7749 2 месяца назад

      Cell max is body there is no consciousness and no mind so it does not count and was not finished.

  • @andrewverrett568
    @andrewverrett568 Год назад +253

    Cell technically could have trained and kept getting stronger and stronger, having the saiyan cells and friezas cells his power could have had really no limits. We see how far goku and vegeta have gone , and look a frieza now. Cell had all of thier dna. Which tells me he had the most potential out of all characters in dbz

    • @xdragonlance
      @xdragonlance Год назад +52

      And he had Namekian regeneration thanks to Piccolo's cells. He could get those Saiyan powerups in a fraction of the time.

    • @Chizinky
      @Chizinky Год назад +19

      @@xdragonlance and combine them with frieza's

    • @stevenchapman7536
      @stevenchapman7536 Год назад +14

      Cell had Cell jrs as well, they could’ve been unstoppable 😅

    • @MatthewJamesKalasky
      @MatthewJamesKalasky Год назад +6

      21 even more so.

    • @Chizinky
      @Chizinky Год назад +8

      @@MatthewJamesKalasky nah cell's got way more potential, 21 is just powerful

  • @cogahan
    @cogahan Год назад +63

    Android 13 doesn't have a goddamn baseball cap. It's a trucker hat

    • @waynemetheny5279
      @waynemetheny5279 5 месяцев назад +7

      gero was going through a phase

    • @SmartAlec86
      @SmartAlec86 Месяц назад

      In my opinion, the difference between a baseball cap and a trucker hat is no different than the difference between a violin and a fiddle.

  • @braddl9442
    @braddl9442 11 месяцев назад +45

    The reason I suspect android 18 got stronger is that the limitless energy stamina thing just over time works like a passive EXP bonus. She does not have to train, but will constantly have passive growth. Her brother 17 on the other hand took the time to learn to master his powers and energy so he had actual growth. I think that is what Gero feared from them. That they over time would just keep getting stronger even if they did nothing.

    • @nomercyinc6783
      @nomercyinc6783 8 месяцев назад +7

      they werent robots just upgraded humans if they were robots 18 wouldnt have a child

    • @shredwerd009
      @shredwerd009 2 месяца назад

      Or Akira just made shit up when it was convenient for him as he always did during the series.

  • @Nathan_Wright
    @Nathan_Wright Год назад +74

    It always perplexed me if Dr. Gero was going to turn himself into an android anyway, why he didn’t just make himself an infinite energy model like 17 & 18 instead of an absorption model. He could’ve built himself to be the strongest of them all, but instead gave all that power to the two that ultimately ended up killing him. I suppose he’s more a scientist than a fighter, but him being one of the most brilliant minds on earth, you’d think he would’ve thought of that.

    • @cond.oriano3264
      @cond.oriano3264 Год назад +35

      I always assumed he turned himself into an android before he had the advanced technology that he used with 17 and 18

    • @kyleellis1825
      @kyleellis1825 Год назад +22

      I thought it was because he saw how much stronger Goku got each time he showed up. He was worried the perpetual energy models might eventually get outclassed, whereas he could always absorb however much the Z fighters got.

    • @kenpoarniceguy1
      @kenpoarniceguy1 Год назад +20

      Probably because Toriyama was pressured into making new android characters that were better than a "fat clown and old man." Then 17 and 18 had to be brushed aside because "they weren't scary enough."

    • @MrZahsome
      @MrZahsome Год назад +3

      I think Gero grew more powerful the more energy he absorbed so maybe he wanted to grow more powerful without needing to train? Idk lmao.

    • @Nathan_Wright
      @Nathan_Wright Год назад

      @@kyleellis1825 True. Even though it wasn’t a thing at the time, now we see that 17 actually got a lot stronger in Super just by some light training which is still stupid that he’s on SS Blue level. So their power isn’t set, they actually can grow stronger. BUT that wasn’t actually a concept in the original DBZ.

  • @devinudairam561
    @devinudairam561 Год назад +433

    So we all gunna forget that Arale can body this entire list?

    • @kylethomas9130
      @kylethomas9130 Год назад +19

      Underrated comment

    • @devinudairam561
      @devinudairam561 Год назад +51

      @@kylethomas9130 it's crazy how we have God's of destruction, angels, Supreme Kai level threats and yet Arale is just skipping around somewhere happy like a true menace to society. Thank God she was good natured, otherwise there wouldn't even be a Dragon Ball series period.

    • @rsync9490
      @rsync9490 Год назад +24

      @@devinudairam561 i remember as a kid using arale in Tenkaichi 3, she was a fucking menace.

    • @devinudairam561
      @devinudairam561 Год назад +34

      @@rsync9490 I'm telling you. This new gen knows nothing about General Tao, Arale, the original Garlic, or Commander Red from the old days. The other day my cousin asked me who Turles was and why he looks like Goku 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

    • @abittoocheesy3635
      @abittoocheesy3635 Год назад +6

      @@devinudairam561 Dragon Ball Z fan tries to recognize upa challenge (IMPOSSIBLE) (GONE WRONG)

  • @CainDB
    @CainDB 2 года назад +665

    Technically Super 17 is the strongest Android in entire Dragon Ball multiverse, because of his mechanism he has limitless absorbing ability that allows him to absorb energy AND kinetic force from punches (which means that punching him makes him stronger and doesn't actually do any damage), his only flaw is he cannot absorb both at the same time and that doomed him, but otherwise he's the most dangerous and strongest Android ever, because he's absorbing ability is supposed to be limitless

    • @lilmoesieable
      @lilmoesieable 2 года назад +23

      android 21 destroys super 17

    • @CainDB
      @CainDB 2 года назад +110

      @@lilmoesieable because you say so or because you actually have any kind of REAL argument?

    • @lilmoesieable
      @lilmoesieable 2 года назад +7

      @@CainDB she regenerate, why do you think when fat buu was al trainend and stuff he didnt compete in the top?

    • @CainDB
      @CainDB 2 года назад +90

      @@lilmoesieable you do realize that Super 17 in theory doesn't need to regenerate because he doesn't take any damage because of his absorbing ability?

    • @lilmoesieable
      @lilmoesieable 2 года назад +11

      @@CainDB first of all he was the strongest android in gt after dragon ball kai, android 21 has the powers of goku and everyone also majin buu and cell afrer cell absorb so i dont think super 17 is able to compete with 21 hes strong but not as 21

  • @extremelegendsupreme4596
    @extremelegendsupreme4596 2 года назад +48

    You could just say that the return of cooler took place during the 3 year time skip for androids.so that way it would make sense for goku and vegeta to be stronger since it would be before piccolo fused kami.

    • @dtuck333
      @dtuck333 2 года назад +10

      But Dende was the guardian of Earth, which could only be the case after Piccolo fused with Kami

    • @extremelegendsupreme4596
      @extremelegendsupreme4596 2 года назад

      @@dtuck333 toei put dende there only because to foreshadow him being guardian of earth in the anime and manga.that could be disregarded especially since in this movie goku hasn’t mastered super saiyan and gohan isn’t teen gohan from the cell games.also future trunks wasn’t there which he would be if it happened in the 10 day gap.

    • @dtuck333
      @dtuck333 2 года назад +3

      @@extremelegendsupreme4596 but by that logic, then Goku should've been super surprised that Vegeta turned Super Saiyan & yet Goku didn't acknowledge it at all, thus why it has to take place between Piccolo fusing with Kami & before they entered the Hyperbolic Time Chamber

    • @extremelegendsupreme4596
      @extremelegendsupreme4596 2 года назад +4

      @@dtuck333 actually during the Android saga goku never saw vegeta as a super saiyan.during the Android saga when vegeta saved goku from 19 goku was already unconscious from the heart virus and his fight with 19.Then when goku wakes up he already wants to go to the next level of super saiyan and goku even says that vegeta was gonna do it.that implies that goku was already aware of vegeta going super saiyan.Also in return of cooler goku was the ONLY one who saw vegeta as a super saiyan.Gohan,piccolo,krillin ETC we’re never around vegeta so it makes sense why there surprised.

    • @dtuck333
      @dtuck333 2 года назад

      @@extremelegendsupreme4596 to which Goku knew Vegeta turned Super Saiyan because he could see everything that was going on when he was unconscious from the heart virus. It was shown in the canon manga that Goku has telepathic powers & it implied that he knew everything that went on when he was unconscious. It doesn't line up perfectly with either time, but much more lines up with between Kami & Piccolo fusing & the Hyperbolic Time Chamber training

  • @alexanderren1097
    @alexanderren1097 Год назад +78

    Imperfect Cell: “It’s too dark in here. I can’t seen anything… Wait, now I see a light.”
    16: “Walk towards it!”

  • @mralexander4209
    @mralexander4209 2 года назад +209

    With the Cell Jr thing, I believe it was stated that each Cell Jr had an equal power level to Cell at that time, however they are less durable than Cell which is probably how ssj2 Gohan managed to rip off various body parts.

    • @youtubestudiosucks978
      @youtubestudiosucks978 Год назад +11

      Wouldnt their durability be higher because they use the same amount of power to protect a smaller surface area?

    • @kingades1013
      @kingades1013 Год назад +46

      Nah each cell jr was stated to be as strong as vegeta and trunks by cell himself

    • @mralexander4209
      @mralexander4209 Год назад +7

      @@kingades1013 Oh they were? I only heard the part I commented about from the dub version of the anime, so who knows, could be a translation error or purposely changed by Toriama.

    • @Kyle_Broflovski740
      @Kyle_Broflovski740 Год назад +4

      @@mralexander4209 No Cell’s power was equally divided among the Cell Jr’s

    • @kingades1013
      @kingades1013 Год назад +4

      @@mralexander4209 Yh could possibly be. I think cell says it in the manga too. Apparently the cell jrs also bully the z fighters a lot more and it isn’t as fair as it was in the anime

  • @talonskye5577
    @talonskye5577 Год назад +4

    “Hopefully he isn’t a brainless meathead that appears in the last 15mins of the movie.” Yikes, sorry to say, but you obviously know by now, that you nailed it, smh.

  • @Maka_Matoi
    @Maka_Matoi 2 года назад +112

    It's been far too long, I miss these types of videos❤️

  • @Shadowkiller-dq2ju
    @Shadowkiller-dq2ju Год назад +14

    Trunks:The technician term is cyborgs
    Goku: Androids!!

  • @Arutima
    @Arutima Год назад +23

    Android 21 is now canon thanks to the Super Hero movie.

    • @Anomaly_x3
      @Anomaly_x3 7 месяцев назад +2

      Super Hero itself is not canon but it’s something.

    • @mallum4
      @mallum4 7 месяцев назад +5

      @@Anomaly_x3 it is

    • @MakuraZalis
      @MakuraZalis 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@Anomaly_x3toriyama said it was canon. So it's canon

    • @Paradoxe_0
      @Paradoxe_0 2 месяца назад

      Technically no, the person android 21 is based on is canon now, but not the transformation of her into an android

  • @scottdreemurrthegodofcreation
    @scottdreemurrthegodofcreation Год назад +12

    Where’s Mira who literally became so powerful his self destruction would’ve ended all of existence

    • @lucienhaulotte4049
      @lucienhaulotte4049 Год назад

      Only "canon source" or toriyama aproved like the movie that he made the design of

    • @nohero1339
      @nohero1339 Год назад +2

      ​@Lucien Haulotte Mira was in DragonBall online I believe Toriyama did character designs and story for that game
      That game also had Androud 9 and Cell X in it

  • @jjbjjb273
    @jjbjjb273 2 года назад +94

    Always enjoy watching dragon ball when the red ribbon army was in it. They weren't my favourite villains but they had something about them that really stood out. Obviously Toriyama felt the same. I hope this isn't the last time we see them android 16.super 17 and even android 13 would fit In the new series

    • @TheCriiss180
      @TheCriiss180 Год назад +6

      17 secret training was... Battling cell juniors?

    • @leviathan_is_me
      @leviathan_is_me Год назад +3

      ​@@TheCriiss180no, they were all destroyed. He did the same thing Frieza did....he thought REALLY hard about it. Hey, if the U6 Saiyans are a thing, so is this.......tingly backs ffs...STILL PISSED.

    • @texanoni0904
      @texanoni0904 Год назад +1

      @leviathan3187 nah the Cell Juniors are still alive at the place 17 was at (forgot the name)

  • @PwnMaestro49
    @PwnMaestro49 Год назад +4

    Lol "hopefully he isn't a brainless meathead just in THE LAST 15 MINS"

  • @JSun3000
    @JSun3000 Год назад +9

    Super Android 13 had phenomenal animation.Better fight scenes than anything in DBS.

  • @skoley1993
    @skoley1993 Год назад +11

    22:20
    Wow that aged poorly

  • @Saimeren
    @Saimeren Год назад +8

    I mean, wouldn't this list just be earliest to latest?
    Obviously the ones earlier on in the franchise when the power scaling was minimal wouldn't hold a candle to the ones that can battle beings that can break reality like the ones they release today.

  • @ginnungagapabyss5639
    @ginnungagapabyss5639 Год назад +10

    The real question is how powerful would super 17 be if he fused/absorbed all of the other androids. (Maybe including Mira, Fu, and angel Moro73)

  • @Borp56
    @Borp56 2 года назад +14

    Glad you're back! Been watching for a few years now and can't wait to see what you've got cooking!

  • @aaryayt7747
    @aaryayt7747 2 года назад +28

    well, now it's been confirmed that the gammas are the strongest androids after cellmax

    • @CafeLiquerstreams
      @CafeLiquerstreams Год назад +4

      Its why I'm hoping we get a cannon 21 that is more mixed in (my idea was a xenobiologist who thought Gero had left the RR but was caught up in the infinite android project (maybe an early attempt that escaped thanks to a lack of mind scrubbing like 17 and 18) who proceeds to just continue her research while upgrading her body with Piccalo's many lost limbs and possibly having convinced Satan to allow her to do a little research into Majin physiology likely ending with her having to split from her evil half using spirit diffusion but leaving her intact this time to act as a mother figure to Gamma and possibly even 17 and 18)

  • @Areldil
    @Areldil Год назад +6

    In the manga, Major Metallitron/Sergeant Metallic don't have veins like we saw here, it's filler and adaptation to make the episode longer. And for android 8 i always imagined he was some sort of human dead body brought back to life like frankenstein creature (as he is resurected in buu saga.) i think except anime filler a good indication of mechanical or organic based android (cyborg in fact) are veins. I take exemple on #13 who can has veins and can increase is muscle mass so is organic like #17 and #18 unlike #14 #15 #16 and #19 who are fully androids/artifificials. Gero/#20 is different because beside his brain his body is fully mechanical, he is paradoxally the most cybernetised of all.

    • @waynec17
      @waynec17 Год назад +1

      ok i see what your saying abought android 8 i though the same thing , Also android 17 and 18 age much slower then a normal human , apart from their cybernetic enhancements their human biology was modify to age much slower and they heal from wounds and damage faster than a normal human. like when cell was beating up 17 really bad. he kept getting back up.

  • @1die204
    @1die204 Год назад +14

    I was bothered by a lot of characters who we never really saw train suddenly be keeping up in the ToP.
    How did master roshi reach that level? Don't get me wrong...I love the clip of him with his Kamehameha.

    • @ligeiasiren4290
      @ligeiasiren4290 Год назад +2

      Where you also bothered when Vegeta, the king of off-screen power ups, got all his magical upgrades too? because he is the one character that *consistently* got asspull powerups every season, and y'all ate that up everytime.
      If Vegeta can get wrecked by Zarbon, and then be miles above Frieza THE NEXT SEASON (by the power of full off-screen training), then you should be ok with Roshi learning U.I. in the manga, lol.

    • @DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI
      @DIRTYSOUTHSHINOBI Год назад

      ​​@@ligeiasiren4290 Vegeta was never stronger then Frieza the fuck are you talking about.. what ass pull Power up did Vegeta get?? Name me a episode where Vegeta was actually on par with Frieza?? There isn't one... He also struggled with the Ginyu Force he needed Gohan and Krillins help too take them on... You made all that shit up smh..

    • @Dc-kk9bd
      @Dc-kk9bd Год назад +4

      ​@@ligeiasiren4290i don't think you understand dbz. Noone trains harder than Vegeta. Roshi never really trained. He didn't even bother fighting after meeting Raditz. He didn't even train. Vegeta trained non stop to beat goku

    • @milowolfface9392
      @milowolfface9392 Год назад +5

      he wasnt anywhere near as strong as them. Did you not watch the show? His whole thing was that he was there to deal with the fighters who couldnt be beaten with raw power. He gets fucked up by people around ss2 level.

    • @soundrogue4472
      @soundrogue4472 Год назад +2

      UI Roshi makes sense

  • @cooperblackwell1392
    @cooperblackwell1392 Год назад +9

    21 is also in kakarot btw, it shook me to my core because she’s bulmas dads research assistant

  • @Alphine172
    @Alphine172 2 года назад +14

    He fought Goku in SSJ3 in the manga rather than Blue so that at least makes a bit more sense, though I wish they used a better excuse for his massive power boost rather than just saying he fought random crooks.

    • @hollow3450
      @hollow3450 Год назад +6

      That's just how super is. Bad writing everywhere. Not a single thing in super makes sense.

    • @Dragofrost7777
      @Dragofrost7777 Год назад +3

      Apparently he trained with reformed Cell Jrs that Gohan didn't kill in the manga. Cell is pretty strong so realisticly, he could have trained with them until he could take on all 6 at once

    • @arrownoir
      @arrownoir Год назад

      The manga isn’t canon.

    • @Alphine172
      @Alphine172 Год назад +6

      @@arrownoir There's anime canon and there's manga canon. The manga is directly overseen by Akira Toriyama so one could argue it's "more" canon.

    • @michaelthatoker7125
      @michaelthatoker7125 Год назад +1

      @@Alphine172And the anime is more mainstream and more watched and still overseen by Toyama so you could argue that makes it more cannon

  • @sagittariusa7662
    @sagittariusa7662 Год назад +2

    A voraphile just snuck its way into the Dragonball world. Not surprising since SSJ4 brought furries into this via GT.

  • @jakelambert4693
    @jakelambert4693 Год назад +6

    Android 21 is in 3 games and is shown in base form on the screen in dbs super hero

  • @slyfox7452
    @slyfox7452 Год назад +7

    I always loved android 8 and android 16s dynamic with their respective sayians. 8 tought goku to show mercy and hold your punch while 16 taught Gohan to stop holding back

  • @TheGuyWhoMakesRandomTierLists
    @TheGuyWhoMakesRandomTierLists Год назад +8

    It's important to note that most of the old movies were created as promotions for the show at conventions and anime expos. That's why a lot of the movies mirror the show in villian design and major events. They were meant to get people interested and excited for the manga/anime in an era without internet.

    • @My_Master_Waves
      @My_Master_Waves Год назад

      Most movies also came out in much different time periods than people think. Like 1st cooler movie was released while Goku was fighting Frieza on namek in the anime(So Frieza wasn't even defeated yet but they released a movie that said Goku defeated Frieza and returned back to earth) and even in the manga hasn't returned from Yardrat yet(So they didn't even know about Trunks and King Cold). ON TOP OF THAT Takao Koyama said movie begun production 6 month before release so by that point they had no idea about things like buff 100% Frieza because by that point it wasn't a thing even in the manga.
      Most people don't know any of this and say so many outlandish things about the movie because of that.

  • @williamleblanc2623
    @williamleblanc2623 Год назад +5

    You didn't mention Taopaipai. I always suspected he'd been turned into a cyborg by Dr.Gero.

  • @MountainHomeJerrel
    @MountainHomeJerrel Год назад +6

    That was rad. Thanks for covering the androids. I'll subscribe.

  • @TechnicSky
    @TechnicSky Год назад +6

    Remember. Cooler remembers Goku, so it’s safe to say that the Cooler movie follows the same timeline as the sequel.

  • @cherub3624
    @cherub3624 Год назад +4

    I mean 14 and 15 should be WAY stronger than 19 or 20. Piccolo stomped 20 and he really shouldn't have been as strong as base Goku at the time, but 14 and 15 put up decent competition vs ssj Vegeta and Trunks.

  • @metal42
    @metal42 2 года назад +4

    Why is 21 above DBS 17? She's only stronger than Post U6/Pre Black Arc Characters

  • @QuickSilverKitsune
    @QuickSilverKitsune Год назад +6

    Fun fact: if Super Saiyan had been a concept during the original Dragon Ball, Eighter's Death would've been a catalyst for a Super Saiyan Transformation

    • @Lupo32
      @Lupo32 Год назад

      That or when krillin died and goku went on a rampage against the R.R. army

    • @DaRozeman
      @DaRozeman 2 месяца назад

      @@Lupo32 I think you mean against King Piccolo's army, Krillin wasn't involved (at least not much) in the Red Ribbon Army arc. It was Tambourine that killed Krillin just after the Martial Arts Tournament that Tien won.

  • @Izadirad1995
    @Izadirad1995 Год назад +5

    What do you think of cyborg Tao? Did magenta and gero make him?

  • @B.D._Voro
    @B.D._Voro 2 года назад +6

    Did Moodzi use my rankings and reasonings though?

  • @DNAHalo25
    @DNAHalo25 Год назад +2

    Idc super 17 solos everyone except most likely 21 since candy beam is magic and not Ki so he wouldn't be able to absorb it. Super 17 Supremacy

  • @SABaruj
    @SABaruj Год назад +4

    To me, cell is perfect, it has the highest potential

  • @spacemanspiff6332
    @spacemanspiff6332 Год назад +17

    I like to think 19 and 20 could easily become the strongest if they absorbed enough energy. Otherwise, why would Gero turn himself into a weak android?

    • @MatthewJamesKalasky
      @MatthewJamesKalasky Год назад +4

      I think it was explained somewhere that he wasn't able to control the perpetual energy android form all that well, or something.

  • @mekhimays9599
    @mekhimays9599 Год назад +2

    Super Android 17 is the Mightiest Supreme Ultimate Android ever

  • @binarystar300
    @binarystar300 Год назад +7

    No way that OG 73 is behind 18! OG 73's powers were enough for Moro to beat Perfect Super Saiyan Blue Vegeta and Ultra Instinct Omen Goku at the same time!! 18 couldn't even hang with the likes of Toppo (pre-GoD form).

  • @rowan2445
    @rowan2445 Год назад +8

    There's no way 73 is weaker than 17 and 18. 73 swapped hands with gohan who was equal to Kefla prior and then trained to prep for morro afterward. Even kale dominated blue level fighters like golden frieza so Kefla would be far beyond blue level, enough so that jiren and goku had to stop their fight because they saw Kefla as a threat. Manga 17 does not compare to gohan in any way. Ssj3 goku was enough to handle 17 prior to the tournament. Manga gohan is even stated to be the strongest fighter on the planet since goku and vegeta are gone.

  • @ArcherR135
    @ArcherR135 Год назад +12

    Cell Max is the strongest by a landslide. OG Cell has the most potential.
    If Cell had bothered to actually train, then just think about whose DNA he has. Frieza, Goku, Vegeta. Even ignoring Goku and Vegeta, Frieza gained godlike powers in 4 months of training, and then could stomp UI Goku and UE Vegeta after training more. And Cell can use all of their powers and potential together. Just imagine how strong he could become if Cell were ever revived in Super. Scary thought

    • @RealComixx
      @RealComixx Год назад +2

      We need some sort of GT bs where Cell and Cell Max fuse

    • @ligeiasiren4290
      @ligeiasiren4290 Год назад

      All Cells are mid, that's facts. Seventeen clears.

    • @RealComixx
      @RealComixx Год назад +1

      @@ligeiasiren4290 most cap statement ever made. And 17 isn’t that strong

  • @cya7h
    @cya7h 2 года назад +5

    Cell max gammas and perfect cell all take up like the first 5 places

  • @StareachValcin
    @StareachValcin 2 года назад +24

    If I am being honest, I don't think Android 18 ever surpassed Cell at his strongest. There's just no real evidence, especially since she's never really been in fights between her tournament fight with Goten and Trunks, and her fights in the tournament of power. Her fight with Beerus really isn't a fight. Even her fighting alongside 17 demonstrates more of their teamwork rather than their individual strength. 17 is clearly stronger than 18 by a decent amount. 18 is even shown working well with Krillin, despite being stronger than him. Aside from that, I think this list might be accurate. Although, I do think that super android 13 might be stronger than android 16.

    • @drunkdrag0n
      @drunkdrag0n Год назад

      Agreed. 18 was probably somewhat stronger than Semi-perfect Cell, but not close to perfect by a fair margin by the time of the ToP. The only time we see her train is in the Buu saga before the tournament (that kick-starts the entire Buu saga) and learning of the tournament of power and realising she and Krillin would be picked, hence their need to train.
      17 on the other hand has been constantly active since acquiring the job of a park ranger, thus his body is accumulated to frequent changes and responses giving him far more "passive" training than 18 has (flying, using Ki, keeping the animals safe etc.)

    • @justinlynch3
      @justinlynch3 Год назад

      @@drunkdrag0n It probably depends on which media you go by though. I only watched Super once, but didn't 18 divert Goku Blue's Kamehameha when she seen Krillin struggling in his sparring match with Goku.
      Though Super is all over the place, hell SSJ Trunks when raged out became stronger than Blue Goku & Vegeta in the anime.
      However there is a scene in the Buu arc (though I don't know if it's filler or not) that does show Krillin and 18 sparring, indicating that while she may not spend waking minute training like Goku and Vegeta, she and Krillin could of been doing some light sparring off sceen, which could of boosted their power over time.
      So it's not impossible 18 grew in power like 17 did.

    • @ritster21
      @ritster21 Год назад +2

      @@justinlynch3Exactly. If 17 got so strong just from fighting poachers, 18 can do the same fighting Krillin.

    • @ilovedogs2642
      @ilovedogs2642 Год назад

      ​@@justinlynch3 krillin had to retrain for the top because he hadn't been training or fighting in a long time, so him training with 18 can't be true

    • @supesisfodder7427
      @supesisfodder7427 Год назад

      @@drunkdrag0nmoron

  • @Saimeren
    @Saimeren Год назад +2

    "Hopefully he isn't a brainless meathead that appears in the last 15 mins of the movie"
    Whoops.

  • @jamesang7080
    @jamesang7080 2 года назад +9

    she now canon 21

    • @markansu6137
      @markansu6137 3 месяца назад

      2024 i'm mad late.

    • @noodletornado309
      @noodletornado309 2 месяца назад

      How so? Where is she cannon cause no game is cannon

  • @goober69er
    @goober69er Год назад +8

    I think S13 is stronger then both 16 and 17/18 during the Android saga. He wasn’t phased by anything other then a hacked spirit bomb that we never see again.

    • @phistoltv5196
      @phistoltv5196 8 месяцев назад +3

      I agree, he is very very low. He was stupidly powerful

    • @bobbyhillisabossmf
      @bobbyhillisabossmf 3 месяца назад

      well your wrong

    • @goober69er
      @goober69er 2 месяца назад

      @@bobbyhillisabossmfmake an argument or go hawk Tua on your grandmother.

  • @S_Scaling
    @S_Scaling 9 месяцев назад +2

    You can’t say you don’t care if you a power scaler

  • @mattakudesu
    @mattakudesu Год назад +7

    My only logical reasoning as to why 17 could scale to SSB Goku is that he found a way to harness his unlimited energy supply and compress it into a more potent output, similar to how SSB Goku refines his chi control. That's my head canon anyway.

    • @milowolfface9392
      @milowolfface9392 Год назад +4

      seeing how good he is at using engery I would agree. Also 10 years people. Do we really need to see him do push ups

    • @PikachuGamerSMT
      @PikachuGamerSMT Год назад

      Which proves GT’s verse is superior to Super’s as an Android living on a farm is somehow SSJBlue level (without God Ki as well) so yeah

    • @idcblue1527
      @idcblue1527 Год назад +2

      @@PikachuGamerSMTbros acting like super 17 is a good written character💀

    • @heroe1486
      @heroe1486 Год назад

      There are no explanations man, it's probably not a decision of Toriyama to write 17 like that, it's just super BS , you gotta scale side characters if you want to make them relevant for the new audience

    • @tanyguch_kun1330
      @tanyguch_kun1330 8 месяцев назад

      current 17 is just behind ssb, not really as strong as ssb

  • @crimsonking4151
    @crimsonking4151 Год назад +2

    The entire androids saga is just Terminator 2 Judgment Day. Goku’s return from yardrat was published a week after the film’s release. Trunks is just dragon ball’s John Connor.

  • @ken-lv4qf
    @ken-lv4qf 2 года назад +3

    Second. It has been a week hasn't it.........

  • @brucecook502
    @brucecook502 Год назад +2

    I agreed with the entire order you gave other than Android 16 being more powerful than super 13. My opinion is that it is a big "we couldnt know" only for the simple fact that Android 16 never fought anyone other than cells first form oh, so I don't know how we could begin to gauge his power against anyone in order to have an idea of where he stands against super Android 13.
    Super Android 13 was just a straight Brute when he was beating around regular Super Saiyan 1 Goku and Vegeta and he was so powerful that their attacks weren't even as effective as mosquito bites against him, so we have no idea how powerful Goku became after absorbing that Spirit Bomb when he defeated Super Android 13, but we do have a good idea of how to gauge Android 16s power, so I would think they were somewhere near the same level but I cannot justify saying whether or not the one is more powerful than the other because of the simple fact we didn't get to see any of the Z Fighters match Super Android 13 or even give him a hard time. Other than that, I think you were pretty spot-on with the order of power levels of the Androids, I think your reasoning was pretty sound.

  • @vision-dz6cm
    @vision-dz6cm Год назад +3

    Goku, Vegeta, and Trunks were taking on 13(regular),14, and 15 in their base forms for a while, yet they used super saiyan against 19 right away. This couldn't have been after the time chamber either because Gohan wasn't a super saiyan yet.

  • @coolboysg
    @coolboysg 2 месяца назад +1

    For me,Cell is the best :) You may know that he is the only one forces Goku to sacrifice himself :) ... 25 years ago, when I was 10... I could not imagine how strong he was when Super Saiyan Goku could not defeat him...

  • @justicebaca1491
    @justicebaca1491 Год назад +3

    Could super 13 absorb parts of 16? If so wouldn't it make him on par with semi perfect cell?

  • @FlechFisher
    @FlechFisher Год назад +1

    im pretty sure super 13 is stronger than 13 as it took a form far beyond kamicolo and ssj to beat him and i dont think it would take a gemkidama absorved ssj to beat 16..... comparing anime chars to movie villains isnt always fair but thats the way it is... Id put super 13 in between the powered up 2st form cell and 2nd form cell, closer to the second rather, and i doubt 16 would be close to that even after being repaired

  • @flazone4486
    @flazone4486 2 года назад +5

    This is my version of all androids power levels of what we saw in all the series, movies and dbheroes as well :
    Dr Kochin : 8
    Major Metallitron : 46
    Pirate Robot : 50
    Android 8 (Hatchan) : 80
    Commander Black : 100
    Tao Pai Pai Android : 210
    Bio Men : 1000
    Bio Warriors : 2500
    Misokatsun : 4300
    Kishime : 7000
    Ebifurya : 7500
    Cacao : 13 000
    Dr Wheelo : 39 000
    Android 73 Base : 3 000 000
    Cyclopian Guards : 5 000 000
    Android 20 (Dr Gero) : 40 000 000
    Koitsukai : 46 500 000
    Panchia : 46 500 000
    Borareta : 46 500 000
    Paparoni : 46 500 000
    Viara : 48 000 000
    Android 19 : 50 000 000
    Narirama : 57 000 000
    Nigrisshi : 60 000 000
    Android 20 (Dr Gero) Absorbing energy : 100 000 000
    Mecha Frieza : 130 000 000
    Android 19 Absorbing energy : 150 000 000
    Cell 1st form : 150 000 000
    Future Android 18 : 190 000 000
    Future Android 17 : 200 000 000
    The 2 fighting together : 390 000 000
    Android 14 : 220 000 000
    Android 15 : 260 000 000
    The 2 fighting together : 480 000 000
    Metal Cooler Base : 250 000 000
    Android 18 : 275 000 000
    Cell 1st form absorbing 15 000 people : 290 000 000
    Android 17 : 300 000 000
    Android 13 : 305 000 000
    Cell 1st form absorbing 500 000 people : 400 000 000
    Android 16 : 405 000 000
    Metal Cooler Core : 450 000 000
    Android 18 moro saga : 500 000 000
    Metal Cooler full power : 500 000 000
    Android 17 Hell Fighter : 520 000 000
    Super Android 13 : 785 000 000
    Cell imperfect (2d form) : 800 000 000
    Cell perfect : 1 025 000 000
    Android 17 GT : 2 000 000 000
    Hatchiyak : 2 000 000 000
    Cell juniors : 2 500 000 000
    Super Hatchiyak : 3 000 000 000
    Cell Perfect full power : 4 500 000 000
    Cell Super Perfect : 8 000 000 000
    Android 73 Piccolo power absorbed :
    15 000 000 000
    Android 21 Base : 21 000 000 000
    Super Android 17 : 980 000 000 000
    Super Android 17 absorbing energy :
    1 080 000 000 000
    Koicherator : 1 500 000 000 000
    Android 17 moro saga : 1 700 000 000 000
    Super Android 17 absorbing the Kamehameha : 2 600 000 000 000
    Android 73 Gohan power absorbed :
    5 000 000 000 000
    Majin Android 21 Full Power : 5 500 000 000 000
    Aniraza : 2 000 000 000 000 000
    Golden Metal Cooler : 12 000 000 000 000 000 000

    • @jb-fl7le
      @jb-fl7le 2 года назад

      damn dude you went thru all that work just for this?? where the hell did you gather all this info from?

    • @flazone4486
      @flazone4486 2 года назад

      @@jb-fl7le Yeah bro i watch a lot of power levels videos in the last years and i take a lot of information all this years to make this android power level list, and it's as well the logic watching all the dragon ball series you can make your power level list just by watching the fights and the transformations.

    • @kwalityhunter
      @kwalityhunter Год назад

      Arale : ♾️

  • @animeupdateszandtalksofomk4410
    @animeupdateszandtalksofomk4410 Год назад +1

    I am watching this on 18th January 2023 Btw I Think Android 1 will be the strongest And Where is Baby,Gamma 1 and Gamma 2 ?

  • @Apocal3ypse
    @Apocal3ypse 2 года назад +7

    Lets go the legend is back! ❤️

  • @extremelegendsupreme4596
    @extremelegendsupreme4596 2 года назад +3

    It’s been a while man glad your back

  • @mikeaddison5697
    @mikeaddison5697 10 месяцев назад +2

    Super 13 stronger than 16