@albert fish I’ve never said we eat what animals eat. What we eat is all kinds of grains, beans, pulses etc. Some of these are also eaten by animals but not all. Of course if we stopped growing huge amounts of soya and other crops to feed animals we would have so much more land to feed ourselves. There is enough land to grow crops to feed twice as many people who live on this planet, particularly if we don’t use the enormous amounts of land to feed farm animals. Btw we don’t say we can eat what animals eat: we do say we can get all the nutrients we need from plants, and not animals.
I used to work for a DVD company. I sometimes ask carnists who raise this argument whether they've ever watched a movie or show online. They all have. I ask, well, why didn't you care about my job? The reason of course is they don't actually care about consuming particular things to keep people in particular jobs. They're just trying to justify their violent carnism.
Ed, I'm sorry to see such an influx of trolls to your videos spreading misinformation/confusion but I'm also happy because the meat/dairy/egg industry is so scared they need to resort to such tactics. You are an inspiration and people are waking up thanks to your videos. We have the truth on our side. Peace bother. GO VEGAN!
farmers can also be involved in replanning and reforestation as less animal agriculture would mean more land available! and then from this, more plants which can be used for things such as medicine can be grown and so this would give a great boom to medicine and research industries! nothing but positives, love itttttt
This was such a great video Ed! I actually learnt alot! Will present this to my dad at some point. Is it true that the majority of animal farmers also farm plants?
Ed I love what you do, just a piece of advice to you and all animal right's activist. Take lessons, classes or majors in economics, philosophy, sociology and nutrition. You'll become unstoppable. Keep up the good work!
These videos help a fuck ton for when i start going out there and talking to people. For now, i can only be one of the most annoying persons online speaking out and calling out bs. I also will be taking a plant nutrition course, therefore it’ll be easier to make people think.
I'm vegan, but I have to say that many farmers are in debt up to their necks with the equipment and such that they've had to have gotten to do their jobs, so it isn't that easy to transfer to vegan farmers, even with tax subsidies.
Crop prices are not high enough to sustain ranches to change to row crop farms. Many farms in America are both cattle and row crop farms because a year of bad crop prices often are years that have higher beef prices. Also most ranches would not be able to convert to row crop farms because their climate does not provide enough rain to grow crops like corn and soybeans which are the common cash crops. While you make a strong moral argument against ranches it just isn't possible to convert all farms to cash crop farms. Would love you to respond and counter. Just found your channel and would love to debate/talk. Obviously we have opposing views but we could learn a lot from each other. Thanks
This is so beautiful Ed. We in the Vegan community need to target animal agribusiness farmers and slaughter house workers to show them we sympathize with their plight because in a really messed up way they are also victims of this system of death they have inherited in addition to them being the victimizer. This gives me a good idea for an outreach program towards slaughter house workers to turn them Vegan and heal their bodies, minds and spirits. If the Vegan community can get more slaughter house workers on our side by giving them a way out of the hell they are in, the scales will naturally tip in the favor of animal liberation faster. Go Vegan!
I believe that, before all the world goes vegan, we'll develop the technology for producing cheaper and more environmentally friendly cultured meat, or "clean meat" as it's now called. So it's likely that traditional farmers will lose their jobs anyway. Something similar happened when the mass exploitation of horses was ended after the invention of the automobile. Some jobs were lost, other jobs were created, people adapted to the new situation.
Some jobs and bad jobs, like being a slaver, have gone extinct. Many modern animal farmers were ok with that and enjoy the progress of modern life and tech. When machines were first invented, past people complained it would take people's jobs too. New jobs and tech are being invented. Progress can't stop. We should try to eliminate evil like abuse. The same thing was said about slavery, that it couldn't be eliminated cause of reasons like the economy was depended on it. 0:15 Even if I inherited something, I would still follow my dreams and not my parents'. 3:02 Slaughterhouse workers also suffer from physical injuries.
Hey ed! I really hope you see this and reply asap. So basically, today is psychology class we were discussing animal testing and as usual I argued thats its unethical etc. But I really got stuck when my teacher argued that its for scientific reason for example a medicine and so. What do you think about animal testing for scientific research and how can I argue back? Thank you!
While it's true that lives should be worth more than money, many farmers aren't rich, greedy, billionaires who enjoy the suffering of animals. Most farmers are struggling financially, and couldn't support their families without their farms.
And if your land is not a suitable plant farm? People won't just change bcuz they were told life of their long protected and cared for animals who they naturally spend thousands into for profit os more important, then switch to a plant farming life that they didn't even know how to do nor manage. Sure it can be learned , but it takes years so and food and basic necessities so do medical needs and accident s don't wait for that. And not everyone has the money to help or do so.
Amazing Ed. Does anyone have any advice for me. My parents keep back yard hens, although my parents are vegetarians they still consume their eggs. I have told them this is wrong to do so. They keep coming back with ‘where else should we put the eggs’ Could someone please tell me what the right thing is to do with their eggs? Surely just throwing them in the bin is still wrong? Thanks everyone 🌱💚
As someone else advised in another comment, Emily (Bite Size Vegan) made a great educational video about this issue: ruclips.net/video/yR9BwiukoII/видео.html
First time I've ever heard a vegan say the shift will be gradual. Always get the impression it's mainly millenials who throw a strop when they don't get their own way IMMEDIATELY
@@annie-xv3xs Yeah and his point is basically; "tough luck, get a new job." To me that just sounds like someone who has no idea how the farming industry works.
What you must understand here, is switching to grain farming costs more than your think. To sustain a quality lifestyle, the farmer is going to be almost doubling his acreage to bring in the same amount of profit he was with cattle. And with $3 corn, land is expensive.
if all the farmers in the world were going to go into crop farming then all the prices would go to shit and a guy in fucking subway doing fuck all would earn probable 3 times more even tho the farmer is doing way more!!!!!!
As a dairy farmer we only keep are animals in 5 percent for milking young calves get at least 3 week with there mother before we separate them we don’t do any beef we only do sheep to don’t go saying everyone is a monster for there way of life
o yhea ill jus grow some ffocin soya beans on the side of my mountain great ffuckn idea, look there is low land farming great for growing crops👍, there is upland farming not so good, and what are we going to do when winter comes, no food we will have to import all our food from hotter countries , and with all the shiping and flying it would cause so much pollution it would end up doing more harm to our world, and have you ever heard of crop diseases , there would be so much artificial fertilisers and sprays being used , and so much land being plowed up it would cause so much harm for the wildlife, and plus in theory half the worlds land would have to go into a break crop every year, but there would be no animals to eat the break crops so you would rely on green manures for example red clover , but where the fuck would you get the seeds to plant half of the world with green manure, because you cant harvest them you have to farm them harvest them then sell them to arable farms where the will sow them them plow them in, iff this doesent prove that youre talking shit and dont know fuck all about farming life i dont know what will
Baily Welsh that must be so tough and conflicting ❤️❤️. I think the best thing to do is not give your farm to your kids with the expectations that they will run a farm. Get your kids out of the farming business. P.s do you know why farms don’t let their animals die naturally and then sell the food? That would be a completely Vegan farm in my opinion
cmhyperviper 23 yeah that makes sense. I have a leather jacket that I can't bring myself to wear anymore but I have a few wool sweaters that I've had forever. Thanks for responding
Priscilla - well I also kept some clothes that wasn't vegan but eventually I gave away them as well. You dont have to "give up" your clothes right away, or at all.. it's up to you? :/
Your begging for farming competition and genetically modified food as you say without feeding our food to animals, there is enough food to feed the whole world already.
You should also do the "vegan food is expensive though" and "God didn't say we couldn't eat animals though" arguments. I believe in God and feel that it helped me open my eyes to the suffering of animals, however my parents try to use the bible to justify eating animals. I'm looking for a good answer to disprove that God would allow such mutilation, rape (bestiality), torture, and murder of his animals. Keep doing what you're doing Ed! :)
ole Laupsa it's usually because they're domesticated and wouldn't be able to survive. These animals do rely on us to a certain extent because they've been bred this way. Modern day farm animals wouldn't exist without humans. Hopefully that answer helps :)
backat506 you can find escaped farm animals all around the world and they survive in the wild. Just see in australia and hawaii it's escaped goats , sheep's, cows and pigs in the wild and reproducing it's big herds of them now
ole Laupsa yea they can survive, but not happily and easily. Just like cats. In my area people just drop off animals. We have had dealt with 5+ stray cats in the last half year. Just on 13 acres. And they are surviving but they are obviously malnourished and unhappy.
mushlove so why are the baby goats and cows running around and play? They are happy ! Pigs goats cows horses and sheep's have no problems with living in the wild! Some places it's chickens in the wild to if you really love farm animals you release them👍and if you don't believe me just go to hawaii australia and texas.
tax subsidies yet we have skid row in LA and homeless all over Europe Caesar listen to us our voice is more important in the end veganism is one of many religious tribes on this planet all vying for Caesars attention that's all these debates are the philosophical courts of greece that's all youtube and all philosophy has a religious gene or seed where it originated
why are they getting TAX subsidies ? all farming gets it due to pricing and rigged pricing and trade deals hahaha wrecking all farming Australia could be self sufficiency in all from oil and petroleum just look at petrol pricing
Not all farmers can switch to crops because a-lot of farmers farm on moor land like in the Yorkshire dales. And u now nothing. And i would like u to stop youtube and get a real job
Aren't farmers struggling enough already? If I was in your position I'd find another line of work, especially now that the truth of animal farms is now spreading like wildfire. You might not like it or agree with it but it's better to be one step ahead and move with the times. As Ed has said in a previous argument I want a world where you can do your thing and I can do mine but neither of us are contributing to the harm of animals.
Without exploiting animals, though, that's the key part. Ed is an incredible activist/speaker who's even reached mainstream media such as the BBC and organises the annual Animal Rights March in London, as well as taking his speeches around universities in the UK. He's not just some guy making videos as you seem to think. You should watch this video where he argues with a farmer. ruclips.net/video/VdPcvOM4vXk/видео.html
This series will help so many people against soo many stupid arguments!
*The Vegan Wallflower* why do those that undestand veganism need help debunking "stupid" arguments?
Not every new vegan does understand it so it's nice for them to learn what to say when people come at them with all these excuses.
*The Vegan Wallflower* ah, ok. So the newbs...
@albert fish it’s always great to see someone who has no argument throwing insults around. Do you really think vegans eat grass?
@albert fish I’ve never said we eat what animals eat. What we eat is all kinds of grains, beans, pulses etc. Some of these are also eaten by animals but not all. Of course if we stopped growing huge amounts of soya and other crops to feed animals we would have so much more land to feed ourselves. There is enough land to grow crops to feed twice as many people who live on this planet, particularly if we don’t use the enormous amounts of land to feed farm animals.
Btw we don’t say we can eat what animals eat: we do say we can get all the nutrients we need from plants, and not animals.
Every day I come on here and see a new video. Each one is well thought out and explained. Keep it up man.
thanks man, glad you think so :)
@@ed.winters6 years & your activism continues to inspire me Ed! Never give up!
I used to work for a DVD company. I sometimes ask carnists who raise this argument whether they've ever watched a movie or show online. They all have. I ask, well, why didn't you care about my job? The reason of course is they don't actually care about consuming particular things to keep people in particular jobs. They're just trying to justify their violent carnism.
Ed, I'm sorry to see such an influx of trolls to your videos spreading misinformation/confusion but I'm also happy because the meat/dairy/egg industry is so scared they need to resort to such tactics. You are an inspiration and people are waking up thanks to your videos. We have the truth on our side. Peace bother. GO VEGAN!
youtub er these fuckers are scared shitless and I'm loving it!
or, like the Joker, "some people just love to watch the world burn"
farmers can also be involved in replanning and reforestation as less animal agriculture would mean more land available! and then from this, more plants which can be used for things such as medicine can be grown and so this would give a great boom to medicine and research industries! nothing but positives, love itttttt
Can you please continue this past 30 days? There are so many more and these videos are soooo amazing! Concise and very informative! Thank you Ed!
I might do an add on mini-series at some point :) glad you like the series!
"What about the slave trader jobs though?"....."we don't want them to lose their jobs"
Great points, Ed
I like your tobacco farming analogy thanks I'll reuse it^^
This was such a great video Ed! I actually learnt alot! Will present this to my dad at some point. Is it true that the majority of animal farmers also farm plants?
Great video as always! Simple, clear and logical 👏🐷🌱
Ed I love what you do, just a piece of advice to you and all animal right's activist. Take lessons, classes or majors in economics, philosophy, sociology and nutrition. You'll become unstoppable. Keep up the good work!
Cheers Pablo,
Veganism is unstoppable anyway.
"In the end, people are suckers for the truth... and the truth is on your side, Bubba" Col. J Prouty.
♥️
This is something that I find insane. The meat and dairy industries are only able to operate because of the massive subsidies.
These videos help a fuck ton for when i start going out there and talking to people. For now, i can only be one of the most annoying persons online speaking out and calling out bs. I also will be taking a plant nutrition course, therefore it’ll be easier to make people think.
my family's farm switched to just plants because it costs less and you profit more
so much that I have never even thought about! thanks ed!
Once again - brilliant! Thank you, Ed. Namaste.
Great, short, to the point vids 👍 ideal to share
great info mate!!Thanks!
A World without animal farming will happen.
Great video, you could have also brought up the leather industry.
Matt Smith leather industry gets the skins from slaughterhouses, slaughterhouses get the animals from farms.... it's all linked together
You're amazing Ed, love you so much
Should we break windows so window makers won't lose their jobs
Vladimir Lenin fuck me youre thick
I'm vegan, but I have to say that many farmers are in debt up to their necks with the equipment and such that they've had to have gotten to do their jobs, so it isn't that easy to transfer to vegan farmers, even with tax subsidies.
Crop prices are not high enough to sustain ranches to change to row crop farms. Many farms in America are both cattle and row crop farms because a year of bad crop prices often are years that have higher beef prices. Also most ranches would not be able to convert to row crop farms because their climate does not provide enough rain to grow crops like corn and soybeans which are the common cash crops. While you make a strong moral argument against ranches it just isn't possible to convert all farms to cash crop farms. Would love you to respond and counter. Just found your channel and would love to debate/talk. Obviously we have opposing views but we could learn a lot from each other. Thanks
Luckily plants grow on farms! Great video.
Dude that's what I am saying, that it is fortunate (or "lucky") that plants can grown on farms.
Thank you! 💜
Wow, yay to that farmer that gave up his cows to the sanctuary🙌🏽❤️
thank you
This is so beautiful Ed. We in the Vegan community need to target animal agribusiness farmers and slaughter house workers to show them we sympathize with their plight because in a really messed up way they are also victims of this system of death they have inherited in addition to them being the victimizer. This gives me a good idea for an outreach program towards slaughter house workers to turn them Vegan and heal their bodies, minds and spirits. If the Vegan community can get more slaughter house workers on our side by giving them a way out of the hell they are in, the scales will naturally tip in the favor of animal liberation faster. Go Vegan!
I believe that, before all the world goes vegan, we'll develop the technology for producing cheaper and more environmentally friendly cultured meat, or "clean meat" as it's now called. So it's likely that traditional farmers will lose their jobs anyway.
Something similar happened when the mass exploitation of horses was ended after the invention of the automobile. Some jobs were lost, other jobs were created, people adapted to the new situation.
Gio Tag people learned new ways to exploit horses....racing, big lick competitions, rodeos, bull fights....people suck
ASMRyouVEGANyet?
I know, I know... that's why I was talking about their MASS exploitation.
This video series is a fantastic resource when faced with questions/arguments from meat eaters. Thank you for doing this, Ed!
Some jobs and bad jobs, like being a slaver, have gone extinct. Many modern animal farmers were ok with that and enjoy the progress of modern life and tech. When machines were first invented, past people complained it would take people's jobs too. New jobs and tech are being invented. Progress can't stop. We should try to eliminate evil like abuse. The same thing was said about slavery, that it couldn't be eliminated cause of reasons like the economy was depended on it.
0:15 Even if I inherited something, I would still follow my dreams and not my parents'.
3:02 Slaughterhouse workers also suffer from physical injuries.
"Life is more important than financial gain" Exactly.
Facts and logic destroys carnist nonsense every time
Louis Gedo this meme is so annoying
Reverend Coffin it’s on all of these videos
SHIVAM PATEL , and you, my friend, make the same annoying complaint about a simple meme.
Have a great day!
Louis Gedo, I agree! Have you seen the Health Ranger's recent video? I'm disappointed.
SHIVAM PATEL, Facts and logic destroys carnist nonsense every time.
Hey ed! I really hope you see this and reply asap. So basically, today is psychology class we were discussing animal testing and as usual I argued thats its unethical etc. But I really got stuck when my teacher argued that its for scientific reason for example a medicine and so. What do you think about animal testing for scientific research and how can I argue back?
Thank you!
While it's true that lives should be worth more than money, many farmers aren't rich, greedy, billionaires who enjoy the suffering of animals. Most farmers are struggling financially, and couldn't support their families without their farms.
And if your land is not a suitable plant farm? People won't just change bcuz they were told life of their long protected and cared for animals who they naturally spend thousands into for profit os more important, then switch to a plant farming life that they didn't even know how to do nor manage. Sure it can be learned , but it takes years so and food and basic necessities so do medical needs and accident s don't wait for that. And not everyone has the money to help or do so.
Amazing Ed.
Does anyone have any advice for me.
My parents keep back yard hens, although my parents are vegetarians they still consume their eggs. I have told them this is wrong to do so. They keep coming back with ‘where else should we put the eggs’
Could someone please tell me what the right thing is to do with their eggs? Surely just throwing them in the bin is still wrong? Thanks everyone 🌱💚
As someone else advised in another comment, Emily (Bite Size Vegan) made a great educational video about this issue: ruclips.net/video/yR9BwiukoII/видео.html
Benighted thank you so much for replying I’ll check out the video 🙂
Amazing important argument amazing Ed thank you
First time I've ever heard a vegan say the shift will be gradual. Always get the impression it's mainly millenials who throw a strop when they don't get their own way IMMEDIATELY
There are hydroponics, as an option, for farmers, too.
linzertube if they have hundreds of thousands of capitol to drop
Hey Ed, do an interview with the youtuber srspower.
“the simple switch to plant farming” this would be impossible for many farms- where i live the climate makes this impossible
He talks about not being able to switch as well. Watch the whole video
@@annie-xv3xs Yeah and his point is basically; "tough luck, get a new job." To me that just sounds like someone who has no idea how the farming industry works.
@@Lighthammer18 the farmers can find new jobs but the animals can’t find new lives.
What you must understand here, is switching to grain farming costs more than your think. To sustain a quality lifestyle, the farmer is going to be almost doubling his acreage to bring in the same amount of profit he was with cattle. And with $3 corn, land is expensive.
You're the kind of person to think that freezing the earths core to stop volcanoes from erupting is a good idea.
if all the farmers in the world were going to go into crop farming then all the prices would go to shit and a guy in fucking subway doing fuck all would earn probable 3 times more even tho the farmer is doing way more!!!!!!
A all plant farmer can’t live on $3.20 corn
Hemp?
There appears to be something wrong with the audio..... 🤔 it’s in slow motion.
Miss Jasmine Hoop Studio it’s okay for me - maybe restart your browser or internet?
Works okay for me too....might be your pc/phone not cooperating
It's a glitch that's been happening for me on other videos. I just have to rewind it or sometimes close and reopen the app and video
Ah. Yes it’s working now. Super weird. Lol 😂
Priscilla a glitch in the matrix
As a dairy farmer we only keep are animals in 5 percent for milking young calves get at least 3 week with there mother before we separate them we don’t do any beef we only do sheep to don’t go saying everyone is a monster for there way of life
Can someone explain to me what ethical means?
The dictionary defines ethical as "relating to moral principles or the branch of knowledge dealing with these."
if there is a will....there is a solution.
o yhea ill jus grow some ffocin soya beans on the side of my mountain great ffuckn idea, look there is low land farming great for growing crops👍, there is upland farming not so good, and what are we going to do when winter comes, no food we will have to import all our food from hotter countries , and with all the shiping and flying it would cause so much pollution it would end up doing more harm to our world, and have you ever heard of crop diseases , there would be so much artificial fertilisers and sprays being used , and so much land being plowed up it would cause so much harm for the wildlife, and plus in theory half the worlds land would have to go into a break crop every year, but there would be no animals to eat the break crops so you would rely on green manures for example red clover , but where the fuck would you get the seeds to plant half of the world with green manure, because you cant harvest them you have to farm them harvest them then sell them to arable farms where the will sow them them plow them in, iff this doesent prove that youre talking shit and dont know fuck all about farming life i dont know what will
exactly. they have the land they can learn a few new skills. retire the animals. farm plants.
We are farmers. Only farm plants here ❤
❤️❤️❤️❤️
I’m a farmer aswell but we farm sheep and cattle 😕
Baily Welsh that must be so tough and conflicting ❤️❤️. I think the best thing to do is not give your farm to your kids with the expectations that they will run a farm. Get your kids out of the farming business.
P.s do you know why farms don’t let their animals die naturally and then sell the food?
That would be a completely Vegan farm in my opinion
💚💚💚💚
What does everything think about those whom continue to wear non vegan clothes (gotten before going vegan) as a vegan?
cmhyperviper 23 yeah that makes sense. I have a leather jacket that I can't bring myself to wear anymore but I have a few wool sweaters that I've had forever. Thanks for responding
Peace Love very true
Priscilla - I cannot wear nor eat dead animals anymore .. somehow it becomes so clear that it is a dead animal, not food or clothes :) for me anyway
Kai yeah 😔 I feel so bad but I already have them and I didn't buy any of them.
Priscilla - well I also kept some clothes that wasn't vegan but eventually I gave away them as well. You dont have to "give up" your clothes right away, or at all.. it's up to you? :/
This is a dumb argument. Am I the only person who’s had several jobs? Get a new job. We’re not living in the dark ages.
farmers’
It's ridiculous: selfish meateaters don't care about animals, but they care so much about farmers, whom they probably would never meet.
You need to reconsider how the world works
Livestock buildings could make great oyster mushroom buildings with some tweaking.
But they make better cattle sheds
Your begging for farming competition and genetically modified food as you say without feeding our food to animals, there is enough food to feed the whole world already.
Matt Smith what’s wrong, oh yah your mouth.
In Theory we could feed the world with the amount of food we produce but world hunger is more complicated than that
Jason Hill it isn’t human are just too selfish.
SHIVAM PATEL poverty is the biggest problem , many families simply can’t afford the food that’s available to them
You should also do the "vegan food is expensive though" and "God didn't say we couldn't eat animals though" arguments. I believe in God and feel that it helped me open my eyes to the suffering of animals, however my parents try to use the bible to justify eating animals. I'm looking for a good answer to disprove that God would allow such mutilation, rape (bestiality), torture, and murder of his animals. Keep doing what you're doing Ed! :)
Why do you not release animals from farms cows goats horses pigs and sheep's can live in the wild
ole Laupsa it's usually because they're domesticated and wouldn't be able to survive. These animals do rely on us to a certain extent because they've been bred this way. Modern day farm animals wouldn't exist without humans. Hopefully that answer helps :)
backat506 you can find escaped farm animals all around the world and they survive in the wild. Just see in australia and hawaii it's escaped goats , sheep's, cows and pigs in the wild and reproducing it's big herds of them now
ole Laupsa yea they can survive, but not happily and easily. Just like cats. In my area people just drop off animals. We have had dealt with 5+ stray cats in the last half year. Just on 13 acres. And they are surviving but they are obviously malnourished and unhappy.
mushlove so why are the baby goats and cows running around and play? They are happy ! Pigs goats cows horses and sheep's have no problems with living in the wild! Some places it's chickens in the wild to if you really love farm animals you release them👍and if you don't believe me just go to hawaii australia and texas.
Matt Smith but they can live in the wild so just release them
tax subsidies
yet we have skid row in LA and homeless all over Europe
Caesar listen to us our voice is more important
in the end veganism is one of many religious tribes on this planet all vying for Caesars attention
that's all these debates are
the philosophical courts of greece that's all youtube
and all philosophy has a religious gene or seed where it originated
ruclips.net/video/586jSyXfOVM/видео.html
nothing new
peter singer and few other speakers are priests to these youtubers they look to them as guides and its a theology
its all repeated over and over
but tax subsidies are already going towards the animal industry. Or are you suggesting that tax subsidies should be gotten rid of altogether?
why are they getting TAX subsidies ?
all farming gets it due to pricing and rigged pricing and trade deals
hahaha
wrecking all farming
Australia could be self sufficiency in all from oil and petroleum
just look at petrol pricing
and i have nothing against pricing set by powers
i am actually for it, but its out of hand and messy at the moment
Rubbish
Eat some beef and grow a real beard
his beard is not a problem, but you having no brain - there is a big problem
Not all farmers can switch to crops because a-lot of farmers farm on moor land like in the Yorkshire dales. And u now nothing. And i would like u to stop youtube and get a real job
Yes u are so right many farm and farmyards aren't built for crops
Kevin McGovern thanks for agreeing we need mo people like us to comment this on his videos
Aren't farmers struggling enough already? If I was in your position I'd find another line of work, especially now that the truth of animal farms is now spreading like wildfire. You might not like it or agree with it but it's better to be one step ahead and move with the times. As Ed has said in a previous argument I want a world where you can do your thing and I can do mine but neither of us are contributing to the harm of animals.
Dale Robinson u just said u wont a world where u can do one and i can do one thing i can do farming and ed can keep trying to change people and fail
Without exploiting animals, though, that's the key part. Ed is an incredible activist/speaker who's even reached mainstream media such as the BBC and organises the annual Animal Rights March in London, as well as taking his speeches around universities in the UK. He's not just some guy making videos as you seem to think. You should watch this video where he argues with a farmer. ruclips.net/video/VdPcvOM4vXk/видео.html
Do we know what percentage of farmland isn't suitable for arable farming?