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@mtbyumyum Tell me, for us average 'older' rider like you accurately describe (thank you!) do you recommend the Enduro build or the regular 429 build (130 fork)
Hi Jason, Thank you for doing all these reviews. Been riding bikes for 50 years and it was time for a new bike. I checked out all the Pivot bikes, Yeti and other bikes. I am 5.5 and I am currently on my old Yeti ASR5-C which I still love. It's just a point and shoot bike and great bike for its time. After watching to your reviews and theseting out these bikes,I really felt that the 29 inch bikes were just too big and felt like I was driving a simi. I checked out the Yeti 135 and the Pivot Shadowcat in 27.5 and I narrowed it down to these two bikes based on my riding style. I watched your review of the shadowcat and compared the two bikes and was sold on the Pivot Shadowcat. I am excited to whip this bike around. Keep doing these reviews because they are important to all level of riders.
I went with @mtbyumyum and purchased a Ripley V4 3 yrs ago and really appreciated his video reviews and comparisons. Still love that bike and kept it. But I live in a pretty flat trail area so my daily rider is a SC Blur XC with 100mm front and rear with faster XC tires on them.
Been watching you for years now. Every bike is such a good bike. You promote one and then later in one of yours live chats go back to ibis ripley, or at one point ibis ripmo, only later to be the yeti sb140 lr. But ripley has always been you favorite. Looking at all yours videos, you always talk great about the bike you're showing. I don't know what to think.
I bought my 2017 trail 429 due to your favorable review back then. Still riding it with a smile on my face. I opted for the 27.5 plus rims, which is my only regret. Turned 65 year this too.
Didn't recognize you without a helmet... I have a Switchblade, wanted a shorter travel 29'er. Tried and Evil Following, loved it so much I bought it. I would describe it the same way you describe the Trail 429.
Thanks! Thanks for your constant and very detailed reviews which are an amazing help choosing the right bike. I appreciated your personal recommendations as confirmation of my choice of bike. I got the switchblade with 160/142 mm travel All Mountain which easily keeps up with 170 mm travel more enduro focused bikes, it amazes me every ride again. Pivots W-Link seems to make the difference! BTW., I am 52, married and father of 2 and full time working self employed, just as your average viewer ;-) BTW 2: the trail 429 works perfectly on your trails, the switchblade would be too much., However, my dream ride will be some high mountain tours which I will do with my switchblade in a couple of years, still need to train and get better.
Glad you had a good experience with Salt Cycles. They've been incredibly for me to work with as well... and I drive by 3 other bikes shops on my way up to Salt Cycles...
I love to hear this! V4 Ripley is my favorite bike of all time. It is not my most recommended bike of all time, though. I think a lot of people are afraid of a bike being too squirrley underneath them. Although it was never a problem for me on the Ripley, I know the t429 can handle slightly higher speeds And feel more stable. I also think it climbs slightly better.
I bought my 429 trail based on Jason’s recommendation and I absolutely love it! So awesome. Yes, a bit heavier than some but it does all the things he says in the video. I did put a 140 Pike fork. I feel like I can go down most everything and light enough to climb well. Just my two cents.
Great video. In large part based on your reviews I purchased the 429 Enduro version and it is incredible. I had previously owned a V4 Ripley and a V2 Ripmo and although they were great bikes the 429 is next level. Thanks again for the great content.
OK…I’m 190 lbs..on the Ripley v4 for 3 years, rode the T429 for a week in Sedona…I prefer the Ripley…but I am an East Coast blue flow trail with occasional chunk. The Ripley is just the most fun bike I’ve ever ridden. Sure if I was doing regular black, chunky trails (like 30-40%) of the time…the. T429..but I am on blacks 10-15% and my Ripley hangs tough…esp the better rider I’ve become. I also own a Ripmo V2 and the best way I describe the T429…is it feels exactly half way between my Ripley and Ripmo…despite what its specs say on paper.
Back in the day when Pivot was the new kid on the block I knew someday I would get one. Got the 429 C with 120 Pike, lightest DT Swiss wheels, XO1, XX. It is one of the best things ever, worth every dollar.
I got the last gen. 429 on YumYum’s recommendation and loved it. Those square down tubes are something else. I’m on a Yeti 120 now for the (slightly) steeper seat angle.
Been on that bike for 3 years. Do everything and I agree DW link suspension. I have the Enduro build (140MM) fork. Best all round mnt bike I have owned in 30 years of riding mnt bike. I have a feeling Pivot is about to tweak it because of what they did to the Switchblade.
Yeah, I'm sure the next t429 will be bigger.... sad because none of the new Pivot bikes fit me anymore... the small is a bit too cramped and the medium is a bit too big... the current t429 fits me perfect!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts ! I am 53😊 so I fit into your viewer profile! Since Yeti released their 93 ARC AS LT I’m on long travel bikes. Actually the travel got less in the last 20 years😄 Anyway I am on a Pivot Firebird 2021 and I also have a Yeti SB150 2022. Two of a kind just like the beauty and the beast. Stay safe man looking forward to for new vids from you…
Moving from the OG Switchblade to the T429 would be a nice move. Probably pretty similar overall capability only better feel, traction and climbing... this current T429 is a beast on the climbs, particularly the low traction scenarios.
I demoed a 429 in 2023 and a switchblade in 2024. I thought the switchblade pedaled the same if not better than the 429. Of course, the demos were a year apart, so I could remember wrong, but I sure loved the switchblade!
Pretty cool to see sale prices similar to used bike prices, thanks for the head up Jason! One question - do you think the 429 would feel noticeably more capable than the Cervelo ZFS-5 120 I picked up used earlier this year? Kind of kicking myself for not going with a 429 but surprised how similar the geo is. I want to go back to something a little more confident downhill, had a Rocky Mountain element and really got spoiled by that slack geo…but with these prices I could probably buy a new 429 for close to what I can sell my zfs for… Thanks for this epic content too btw!!!
I only ever rode the Cervelo once and it wasn’t my bike, not set up for me and wasn’t a full ride… with that said, get that thing listed for sale and grab a T429🤘
I had a 429 and now I have a 2023 Norco optic and I’m faster up and down on the optic. I feel a huge difference when it gets fast. The 429 is very slightly more agile and better tech climber but I’d recommend the optic and its half the price
I’m a big fan of these shorter travel bikes, especially if you have an enduro bike to compliment it. I just swapped my tallboy frame out for a 5010 V5, highly recommend trying one out if you haven’t.
What about the new Pivot Mach? I ride a bunch of XC to a bit of chunky trail. I have the Swithblade, but want something lighter and quicker. 429 or Mach? Love the weight savings! I am 5’9” 185, Grand Targhee XC trails are less rocky than most of Utah.
Yeah, go with the Mach 4 SL if you want to stay in the Pivot lineup.... personally, I'd go with the Cannondale Scalpel for xc... it's incredible and builds up lighter weight than the M4sl... Call Chris at Salt Cycles and see what he has: 801-943-8502
I was pretty excited about the Mach with light weight and regular wheel spacing. It's a great bike--really fast climbing. But It wasn't as fun for me--the downhill corning and drops is not as comfortable. It is capable and can do that, it's just a little scarier/on the edge feel. Try demoing or renting if you can.
Hey Yum Yum. Wow what an opportunity! I'm probably not in the market until next year though. XC background, raced in the late 90s expert, but now just ride for fun/ get outdoors. I like a good climbing bike, but always loved bombing down.. nothing like Tyler, but let's just say I was always to the bottom of hill first with my xc buddies. This bike is top of my list, but Transition Spur is up there too for me. You've touched on the comparisons on the two, but would love a video comparing those two back to back. Keep doing what you're doing. I get so much good info from your videos. Quality not Quantity 😉
@Wes-o9t see.. that was one of my concerns. That Pivot just looks better made and more refined, but I've not seen either in person yet. Not a fan of the external routing brake line on spur as well, but I hear it rides great with that Geo. This is probably it's "secret sauce"
@@jeffreymagni1272 The Spur fit me like a glove 5'7" on a medium. I have a Giant Trance Advanced Pro 29 2 non live valve version and like that bike a lot more. Better climber/rides smoother. The Spur would break traction on the uphill's but wasn't bad. The Giant turns sharper too where you had to lean the Spur with your body more. FIt and finish of the Giant was much better than the Spur.
@@jeffreymagni1272 Also I wanted to add that I had the older Deep-Sea Green model with Rockshox SID suspension before they made the rear udh hanger where my frame chipped so maybe they have that sorted out now, (better paint, stronger rear triangle)
If I'm Pivot shopping, I'm looking at the firebird. But I like the occasional enduro race and don't give a hoot about climbing efficiency. Always feel more comfy on the big long rigs.
Been a long time subscriber of your channel and I've wanted a trail 429 for the past several years. Finally the time has come and picked one up from a local shop here in the PNW. I'm blown away at how FUN and capable this bike is. it opens up rides that I might not normally do on my enduro bike. I dont have to pull back much if at all on the downhills. If youre an enduro/DH rider at heart looking to open up other avenues of this sport, trail 429 is for you hands down!
Thanks for sharing. Yep! The shorter travel, more efficient bike does just as you said, opens up more/different opportunities of riding that would be less fun/desirable on a enduro bike.
Bought my Pivot Switchblade XO AXS this year right before the new crappier ones came out. Knox carbon rims and an I9 Hydra, it would be hard to have a mtb thats not a pivot, just to good and the service was so outstanding. I asked them hundreds of questions through chat and email before I bought the bike. Switchblade more fun than the Trail429 though.
Had both a V4 Ripley and Trail 429 Enduro. Both climbed the same but the Trail 429 Enduro was much better on the downhill. The Enduro has a Fox 36 on the front and a piggy back shock.
I'd guess new 429 will be coming out for next season. Similar to what they did with the Switchblade this last season. I bought a 429 in 2021 based on your video recommendation. It was an awesome bike that could do most anything and could be built to specialize more with different wheels and tires. I just recently sold it to build a Rascal V2, but I will definitely miss that 429.
Yeah, sadly for me the new iterations of Pivot bikes are a little too big for me. I’m stuck between a size small and medium. This current version of the trail for tonight fits me perfect and a medium.
@@mtbyumyum what year 429 Did you use for the video? I am 5’7” and would be in the same boat. I’ve been on the small and medium in the 2022/2023 models and it’s close - I think I am a medium
This video literally felt like an infomercial lol. The Trail 429 is a great bike but it is heavy, has a press fit BB, and has Superboost spacing. Those three things are a deterrent for me, but I owned the last generation and it was a great bike
@@shaun1900 He's selling bikes for Salt Cycles. They push the most expensive bikes. 90% of riders do not need Grip dampers, piggyback shocks, carbon and everything that Pivot offers. They only spec the highest end components and never offer models w the forks and shocks most people would do fine with. Why not offer bikes w Pike Select forks or Marzocchi Z2 forks and shocks like a Fox DPS? This is short travel trail bike. It doesn't need a freaking FOX 36 or burly, expensive fork. It would bring down the cost of the bikes by at least $1000. Not everyone is racing nor a pro, we just think we are.
@@petedog9581 what a load of words to articulate, not much. I watch plenty and I mean plenty of videos and reviews, this guy is on point and pretty reasonable. he reviews what he reviews and has a good audience. If you don't like what he does, its quite simple, fuck off and watch something else.
Ended up getting a Giant Trance Advanced 29 pro this year 120/130 version. I didn't know they would still have crazy good deals still happening. Oh well still a good bike.
Ive been on an Ibis V4 Ripley with 140mm 34mm fork and a Cane Creek headset slackener since maybe 2019. Works pretty good for most riding here in Colordo. If I were to add another bike, the Pivot Switchblade would be on the short list.
At one time you mentioned maybe doing a comparison between the Trail 429 and the Mach 4 SL. How would you rate the Mach 4 SL against the Trail 429? (BTW - I purchased a 429 based on your reviews and I love it. Just looking for something a little lighter and perhaps a little more efficient climber but with the Dual Link suspension.)
Hi Jason, good video, the bad thing is that here in Mexico it is difficult to get those brands, the closest thing to the pivot and easiest to get is the specialized epic 8 evo, so let's go with what there is. greetings from sinaloa mexico
No es tan difícil, existen distribuidores ya de pivot en Mexico, yo tengo la 429 y donde ando es muy común ver pivot sobre todo en ebike y la firebird.
Personally, I would prefer the 429 Enduro that comes with the 140mm Fox 36. I think the 140mm Fox 36 is going to stand up to rougher terrain and higher speeds better than the 130mm Fox 34. Also, I wouldn't mind if the 429 was a little longer and slacker, maybe a 76* STA and 65* HTA with the 140mm fork. Are you riding the 429 Enduro?
Yes, on the day of film I was riding the Enduro model. It was nice, but I’m not sure it actually handles much higher speeds better. The fox 36 is nice though! Also, I know the seat tube angle doesn’t seem very steep on these Pivots, but in all actuality, while riding, it feels plenty steep.
I'd be curious how that bikes goes side by side to the Norco Optic. Pivot and Yeti are upper end of the price scale. Norco makes some incredible bikes that sell for less.
Because your an expert on ibis, have a question…. Currently own a Ripley v4s and want a bike that climbs similar but more travel. Is the ripmo V1 a good upgrade ? Yes old model but I need a bike that can climb similar to Ripley but handle better descents. I don’t need a ton more travel so ripmo v1 caught my attention. I want light weight trail with DW link. Thoughts ? Thanks 🤙🏻
The Ripmo‘s gonna feel like a pretty different bike. It won’t have that same zippiness that the Ripley has. And it doesn’t climb quite as well. It just feels different and needs a bit more speed than the ripley. Honestly, I think you would be better off looking at the trail 429. It feels more stable and controlled at speed and still climbs as well as the Ripley plus, Chris at Salt Cycles has them up to 35% off right now. Give them a call and see what he can do for you. Their phone number is 801-943-8502
I've had two pairs of Berd wheels and they're incredible!! Salt Cycles can custom build you a pair... I have a pair with over 2,500 miles on them!! DT swiss 180 hubs and they're 1,093 grams!! Call Chris and talk to him about them. 801-943-8502
@@jaybartlett2561 I switched to 27.5’s on my 429. Went with Berd spokes, we are one rims and onyx hubs and absolutely love this setup. Feals great on 2.6” tires too
I've just turned 40. 2 small kids, full time job (luckily can work from home). Very little windows for riding, at times it's weeks or MONTHS without riding only option being with kids on baby seat attached to my oldschool hardtail. This summer I've made a huge leap forward and bought Cannondale Scalpel 3 2024 + upgrades for it (light wheels etc.). Was very motivated by your review as well. Time is precious. And when I have time I want to ride the best I can. My next step is to move to a place with better climate where there is no cold winter :) Don't want to postpone riding on such a good bike untill spring.
I'm 6'-0", 215lbs. Mostly ride XC style trails in East TN with some light jumps occasionally. Cannondale Scalpel or Trail 429??? I would prioritize fast fast acceleration uphill.
@jenkinsb I think the Mach 4 SL might be what you’re looking for. Seems a better technical climber and more capable of chunkier descents than the Scalpel. Jason would you say that the Mach 4SL falls somewhere between the Scalpel and 429?
Just my two cents, at 210 pounds, I never felt the Ripley v4s was flexy. That said, with the new V5 Ripley moving slacker and with a more progression in the suspension, it has, to me, become a more aggressive rider’s bike. I can’t agree more with your view that the more conservative geometry of the 429 is a better fit for most riders. A 66.5 head angle provides plenty of stability, while still being nimble enough to steer with the bars at low speeds. Likewise, the slightly slacker seat tube angle puts less pressure on your hands when riding flats and long grinding climbs. On sale, no brainer, I would get the Pivot 429 over the Ripley v5 (and I like Ibis, having had a Cousin It, Dv9, and still have a Ripley V4s and Ripmo v2 (son’s I ride).)
Over the years I've recommended the Pivot Trail 429 to more people than any other bike... it's just a really good fit for most people, most trails and most riding speeds. The V4 Ripley has been my personal favorite bike of all time. Love that bike.
I'm shocked about your choice. Would have bet at least a dollar (not a gambler) on the Ibis Ripley. Guess I should try the Pivot 429 before I make up my mind. LOL
Do you have a recommendation for something like the Trail 429 but without the Superboost rear end? SB 120? Ripley V5? Revel Rascal? I guess I'm looking at that 120mm/130mm range. Any thoughts?
If superboost is a deal killer I recommend the SB120. Very similar and even a little more poppy and playful… sort of in between the v4 Ripley and t429 really. Call Chris… maybe he can get you a good deal on one! 801-943-8502
@@mtbyumyum Superboost is only a dealbreaker because my other bike is not Superboost but is mullet (currently) but also 29" friendly. My plan is to be able to swap any/all parts back and forth as needed and be able to experiment with my other bike as it is now and as a full 29er and also make for easy sharing of parts between bikes in the event of a part failure. I'm a picky guy I guess but I'm not a "buy things very often" kind of guy either. These bikes are going to be with me for a number of years and I want to make sure they're all no-down-time as possible with the option for some experiments! I've heard a lot about the Yeti SB120. I'll definitely look into it! ...AND I'll call Salty Chris if/when the time comes to make the purchase!
I have a few boost wheelsets in my stable... Superboost has been a standard I have been trying to avoid... Is it worth getting a different wheel standard?
@@mtbyumyum that was one I was actually looking at too but there was none around me to test ride. I test rode an sworks and that’s what made me decide on the stumpjumper.
Costs an incredible amount of $. I'll take my Rocky Mountain Instinct C-Series and keep $4K in my pocket. I rode a 429 in 2021 and it was too twitchy for me and the ST angle was sub 76 degrees... and the chainstays were short. It didn't corner particularly well nor track through chunk w/o deflection. It was great climber and pedaler though. I'm sure the bikes are more slack and stable with newer models.
Couple years back, I hopped on a plane from LA to SLC, got a hotel, woke up, went to Salt Cycles, rented a Pivot, Switchblade, and spent the weekend riding in Draper. Loved it. And Salt Cycles.
I have the Pivot Trail 429 enduro build. The 140 mil Fox 36 is a game-changer. I’d love to to hear your thoughts in a video where you ride the regular 429 back-to-back with the enduro build. Keep up the great content!
Yeah, I think I prefer the lighter weight of the standard model... the weight and spec of the enduro build starts to bleed into the weight and capability of the Yeti SB140 and I think at that point I'd personally go with the sb140 at that point.
No. I prefer the standard model but I was riding the Enduro build while filming this video.... if you're a bigger guy or ride really really hard, consider the fox 36 up front.
120mm of travel for your weight works fine. I have 170 pounds and my bike has 140mm front and rear. I don´t need more than that for trail rides. So, maybe is all about the weight of the rider.
Your weight has nothing to with the travel of bike you choose. Using your logic, at 210 pounds, I would need a DH bike for trail riding. Weight affects suspension tuning and component choices, but how aggressive and fast you ride also has a huge effect on those variables.
Trail 429 is a great bike. Just unfortunate this channel does not review YT bikes. The Izzo and Jeffsy are such great bikes. Honestly the Jeffsy climbs and descends better than the Trail 429 enduro.
I rode a YT Jeffsy a few years ago... honestly, nothing special about it. Standard 4 bar bike as I recall. I would love to ride all the bikes including YT, Canyon and other direct to consumer brands... they're just difficult to demo
Agreed, last Jeffsy nothing to special. Some magic sauce happened on the latest model. Maybe it’s just me, but I seems to climb better than a lot of other bikes.
I just got an Element. Rode it last night on blue trails and it rips. It's fast and climbs so well. Blew my previous PR's out of the water. I came from a RM Instinct BC edition which I'm keeping for park days, but I doubt I'll ever trail ride it again.
Bought a 24 Element C50 coming from a pass-me-down Mojo3. Mojo3 suspension settings were spot on. Still playing with the Element, makes me wish I went with another Ibis.
LOL, I turn 40 next month and I remember when V brakes were the upgrade! So grateful for the amazing bike technology that makes it so fantastic to ride a huge variety of trails.
@vashusan1984 lol me too! Remember ceramic Rims? They gave you a pretty good chance of stopping in wet/muddy conditions compared to the standard ones that for sure just slowed you down. Back in the day I had the Magura hydraulic rim brakes too. I still miss that lever feel.. actually, they were pretty damn good for the day.
Got my 429 a couple of years ago on your recommendation and haven’t looked back. It is a great do everything bike especially for a bigger guy like myself. The perfect bike for a weekend rider! Thanks Yum. When the new model refresh comes out, I’ll be having Salt build me up dream ride.
@@mtbyumyum You have ridden the best of the best, so I don't know if it would even be interesting to you by now. But it just seems like that one bike that that is missing from your reviews.
"Ibis may be noodle(lee)" Funny, I am 6'2" and 175lbs expert-level rider...have ridden Ibis Ripleys since 2018. "Noodle-lee" is not something I would ever suggest the Ibis Ripley is as you suggested. Especially the v4. To each his/her own...
I've had a number of people comment about me say the v4 Ripley was flexy if ridden hard or a heavier weight person. As I mentioned, for me, the v4 Ripley is as good as it gets and my favorite bike of all time. I've had a few friends mentioned it feel a bit flexy "noodle-lee" when ridden hard... they're also heavier/bigger people than me so over the years I've recommended the Trail 429 more often to people over the Ripley for that reason along with the t429 being an incredible short travel trail bike that climbs incredibly well.
@@mtbyumyum Maybe if over 200lbs, sure. I can see that. Especially the Exie. My larger friend just went straight to the Ripmo, he's 230lbs. Not all equipment is made for everyone.
Buy the bike with the best fork you can afford that's Trail. Its not very complicated 70 percent of riders will never push the bike for what its design for.
@@mtbyumyum love your videos btw, and definitely reference them when looking for another arrow in the quiver. Personally the bike I tend to ride most often is my Tallboy. I feel it punches above its class too, and feels stable for a bigger (200 lbs) rider like me. It can handle pretty much everything I ride in CO and UT, though I do prefer a bigger bike at parks. I haven’t given the Pivot a try, but feel like I need to now. I am looking at getting a new XC bike, and am leaning towards the yeti ASR.
Unsure why there’s been a handful of comments like yours… I produce 1 video a year that pumps the bike shop that supports me and what I’m doing here on RUclips. The Pivot Trail 429 happens to be an excellent trail bike. Why the mean comment?? 🤷♂️
@@mtbyumyum They are great bikes that do not market themselves to most of the mtb consumer base. Basically they are part of the problem and why the industry is floundering. The wealthy will pay whatever, and it drives the motives of the industry. As much as I have moved away from Specialized bikes, they do offer price points and builds most people can afford... not just high end stuff. Look at the fire sale in 2023. $5K bikes were selling for less than $3K. That means the manufacturers were gouging with high prices all along. Now the prices for 2024 are right back up there. This is not mean. It is the reality of the bike industry.
It’s no different than buying a car. Yes you can find a cheaper car but it won’t drive as nice as a more expensive car. The options are not the same, materials are not the same etc etc. I don’t feel this review was bias at all for the wealthy. If anything it was opposite as he is letting everyone know they are 35% off. Yes there are cheaper bikes that are fun, but they do not feel the same as a Pivot or Yeti or even a Specialized S Works.
@@ryanhobbs9300 He has to pitch what his sponsor sells. I get it. I respect Yum and his reviews, but he has ridden so many bikes from just about every major brand. It seems curious, that the most expensive brand on the market is the suggestion. Alloy Pivot bikes are $6500 w/o any discounts. My carbon 2023 Rocky Mountain Instinct went for $4800 before I bought it at 40% off for less than $3K. Why? Rocky makes lower specs to make great bikes affordable, as do many others. I'm fine with Deore and select level forks and shocks, alloy wheelsets, and decent hubs...as are most rec mtb riders. I have ridden a 429 and it felt like good mtb. No more amazing the Stumpjumper I already had.
@@ryanhobbs9300 All the major bike makers make great bikes now. There are many bikes on par with Pivot or Yeti and much less $. They all have good frame warranties. Do know how many times Yum has ridden a bike and said, "This is the one?" Many and from all kinds of brands. That just shows how good they all are. I prefer to ride a good bike and keep a couple grand$ in my pocket. Alloy Pivot bikes are over $6K before any discounts or sales. Even Santa Cruz makes more affordable builds available.
With any pivot, they are great until you get past the medium size. Once you go to the size, large and extra large is where everything goes to crap. The chainstay stays the same while the reach grows and grows, giving you unbalanced geometry with crazy bad front end vagueness that just wants to constantly wash-out. I recommend Pivot up to a medium but past that I'd go with banshee or Forbidden🫡
Interesting. Obviously I ride a medium so I can't speak to your experience... my buddy Jason is 6'4" and has been riding Pivot exclusively for the past 10 years. One of the fasted dudes I know both up and down hill... won the Deer Valley Enduro (pro cat.) a few years ago...
@mtbyumyum He's not winning anything in loose conditions, and hero dirt is called that for a reason. I have experience on the Pivot dating way back. You can make it work, but you'll never have the speed, stability, or front-end traction that you get with balanced geometry. Even Specialized is inching their way towards better balance. I'm on 495 reach, 15mm clamp, and 452mm stays. I think this ratio puts me close to where you are on the medium Pivot. With most manufacturers, the medium size is the sweet spot..
There is 1 bike I've recommended more than any other bike over the years... and I get ask A LOT about what bike someone should purchase. Right now Salt Cycles has that bike on sale. 35% off!!! I also produce 1 shameless promotional video for Salt Cycles ones a year and Chris, the owner, is always happy to offer the very best deals on brand new bike for viewers of this video. Give Chris a call today and order your new bike or have Chris help you custom build your Gucci dream build today! #801-943-8502
@mtbyumyum Tell me, for us average 'older' rider like you accurately describe (thank you!) do you recommend the Enduro build or the regular 429 build (130 fork)
Hi Jason, Thank you for doing all these reviews. Been riding bikes for 50 years and it was time for a new bike. I checked out all the Pivot bikes, Yeti and other bikes. I am 5.5 and I am currently on my old Yeti ASR5-C which I still love. It's just a point and shoot bike and great bike for its time. After watching to your reviews and theseting out these bikes,I really felt that the 29 inch bikes were just too big and felt like I was driving a simi. I checked out the Yeti 135 and the Pivot Shadowcat in 27.5 and I narrowed it down to these two bikes based on my riding style. I watched your review of the shadowcat and compared the two bikes and was sold on the Pivot Shadowcat. I am excited to whip this bike around. Keep doing these reviews because they are important to all level of riders.
Dang, I’m jealous! That is going to be a lot of fun. I loved my time on the shadow cat. Enjoy!
I’d be on a 429 if it came as a frame only without Superboost. The silver color is amazing in person.
Wtf
I went with @mtbyumyum and purchased a Ripley V4 3 yrs ago and really appreciated his video reviews and comparisons. Still love that bike and kept it. But I live in a pretty flat trail area so my daily rider is a SC Blur XC with 100mm front and rear with faster XC tires on them.
Been watching you for years now. Every bike is such a good bike. You promote one and then later in one of yours live chats go back to ibis ripley, or at one point ibis ripmo, only later to be the yeti sb140 lr. But ripley has always been you favorite. Looking at all yours videos, you always talk great about the bike you're showing. I don't know what to think.
I bought my 2017 trail 429 due to your favorable review back then. Still riding it with a smile on my face. I opted for the 27.5 plus rims, which is my only regret. Turned 65 year this too.
Wow, good for you! I hope I'm still riding a lot when I'm your age!
at 54, this post made me have hope
Didn't recognize you without a helmet... I have a Switchblade, wanted a shorter travel 29'er. Tried and Evil Following, loved it so much I bought it. I would describe it the same way you describe the Trail 429.
Thanks! Thanks for your constant and very detailed reviews which are an amazing help choosing the right bike. I appreciated your personal recommendations as confirmation of my choice of bike. I got the switchblade with 160/142 mm travel All Mountain which easily keeps up with 170 mm travel more enduro focused bikes, it amazes me every ride again. Pivots W-Link seems to make the difference! BTW., I am 52, married and father of 2 and full time working self employed, just as your average viewer ;-) BTW 2: the trail 429 works perfectly on your trails, the switchblade would be too much., However, my dream ride will be some high mountain tours which I will do with my switchblade in a couple of years, still need to train and get better.
Nice! Thanks for sharing🤙
I highly recommend Salt Cycles!
They were really great to work with when times were the toughest for MTB - during COVID
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Glad you had a good experience with Salt Cycles. They've been incredibly for me to work with as well... and I drive by 3 other bikes shops on my way up to Salt Cycles...
I rode a v4 ripley HARD for 3 years... frame flex was never a problem... bike was GOLD.... went on to buy yet another IBIS
I love to hear this! V4 Ripley is my favorite bike of all time. It is not my most recommended bike of all time, though. I think a lot of people are afraid of a bike being too squirrley underneath them. Although it was never a problem for me on the Ripley, I know the t429 can handle slightly higher speeds And feel more stable. I also think it climbs slightly better.
@@mtbyumyumI was JUST ABOUT TO SAY “ No way Jase would have this over the Ripley bro “👊🏽 😂!!
I was carful with my words.... "recommended" not "favorite" ;)
I bought my 429 trail based on Jason’s recommendation and I absolutely love it! So awesome. Yes, a bit heavier than some but it does all the things he says in the video. I did put a 140 Pike fork. I feel like I can go down most everything and light enough to climb well. Just my two cents.
Thanks for sharing and glad you’re loving your t429🤘
I love MTB yumyum! Awesome channel! Fun and informative!❤
Awesome! Thank you!
Great video. In large part based on your reviews I purchased the 429 Enduro version and it is incredible. I had previously owned a V4 Ripley and a V2 Ripmo and although they were great bikes the 429 is next level. Thanks again for the great content.
Thanks for sharing!
OK…I’m 190 lbs..on the Ripley v4 for 3 years, rode the T429 for a week in Sedona…I prefer the Ripley…but I am an East Coast blue flow trail with occasional chunk. The Ripley is just the most fun bike I’ve ever ridden. Sure if I was doing regular black, chunky trails (like 30-40%) of the time…the. T429..but I am on blacks 10-15% and my Ripley hangs tough…esp the better rider I’ve become. I also own a Ripmo V2 and the best way I describe the T429…is it feels exactly half way between my Ripley and Ripmo…despite what its specs say on paper.
Yeah, not a bad assessment of the bikes really...
100% Ripley at 185, East Siiide. Bumped my fork to 140mm and happy AF. I also own a Rimpo, which I should sell.
Back in the day when Pivot was the new kid on the block I knew someday I would get one. Got the 429 C with 120 Pike, lightest DT Swiss wheels, XO1, XX. It is one of the best things ever, worth every dollar.
100% I totally get it! Congrats on a killer build!
I got the last gen. 429 on YumYum’s recommendation and loved it. Those square down tubes are something else. I’m on a Yeti 120 now for the (slightly) steeper seat angle.
Nice, congrats on the sb120... pretty similar bike really.
Been on that bike for 3 years. Do everything and I agree DW link suspension. I have the Enduro build (140MM) fork. Best all round mnt bike I have owned in 30 years of riding mnt bike.
I have a feeling Pivot is about to tweak it because of what they did to the Switchblade.
Yeah, I'm sure the next t429 will be bigger.... sad because none of the new Pivot bikes fit me anymore... the small is a bit too cramped and the medium is a bit too big... the current t429 fits me perfect!
Trail 429 was the most fun bike I’ve had hands down. Fun to climb and it rips the DH!
Preach Mike!!
Thanks for sharing your thoughts ! I am 53😊 so I fit into your viewer profile! Since Yeti released their 93 ARC AS LT I’m on long travel bikes. Actually the travel got less in the last 20 years😄 Anyway I am on a Pivot Firebird 2021 and I also have a Yeti SB150 2022. Two of a kind just like the beauty and the beast.
Stay safe man looking forward to for new vids from you…
Thanks for sharing!🤙
Right now I've got a Switchblade, v1. My next bike will be the Trail 429. No doubt. Thanks, Jason!
Moving from the OG Switchblade to the T429 would be a nice move. Probably pretty similar overall capability only better feel, traction and climbing... this current T429 is a beast on the climbs, particularly the low traction scenarios.
I demoed a 429 in 2023 and a switchblade in 2024. I thought the switchblade pedaled the same if not better than the 429. Of course, the demos were a year apart, so I could remember wrong, but I sure loved the switchblade!
I have an old Switchblade and I’m debating between the T429 and the Shadowcat for my next bike 🤷
Pretty cool to see sale prices similar to used bike prices, thanks for the head up Jason! One question - do you think the 429 would feel noticeably more capable than the Cervelo ZFS-5 120 I picked up used earlier this year? Kind of kicking myself for not going with a 429 but surprised how similar the geo is. I want to go back to something a little more confident downhill, had a Rocky Mountain element and really got spoiled by that slack geo…but with these prices I could probably buy a new 429 for close to what I can sell my zfs for…
Thanks for this epic content too btw!!!
I only ever rode the Cervelo once and it wasn’t my bike, not set up for me and wasn’t a full ride… with that said, get that thing listed for sale and grab a T429🤘
I have loved my switchblade from salt cycles, it is another go anywhere bike.
I had a 429 and now I have a 2023 Norco optic and I’m faster up and down on the optic. I feel a huge difference when it gets fast. The 429 is very slightly more agile and better tech climber but I’d recommend the optic and its half the price
When I saw that silver 429 in person at the shop I was more than impressed, it blew all the other bikes away in build quality and fit and finish.
Yeah, the silver is very nice!!
I’m a big fan of these shorter travel bikes, especially if you have an enduro bike to compliment it. I just swapped my tallboy frame out for a 5010 V5, highly recommend trying one out if you haven’t.
I'm hoping to ride a 5010 soon... I've talk to a guy at the local Santa Cruz dealer about riding one...
What about the new Pivot Mach? I ride a bunch of XC to a bit of chunky trail. I have the Swithblade, but want something lighter and quicker. 429 or Mach? Love the weight savings! I am 5’9” 185, Grand Targhee XC trails are less rocky than most of Utah.
Yeah, go with the Mach 4 SL if you want to stay in the Pivot lineup.... personally, I'd go with the Cannondale Scalpel for xc... it's incredible and builds up lighter weight than the M4sl... Call Chris at Salt Cycles and see what he has: 801-943-8502
I was pretty excited about the Mach with light weight and regular wheel spacing. It's a great bike--really fast climbing. But It wasn't as fun for me--the downhill corning and drops is not as comfortable. It is capable and can do that, it's just a little scarier/on the edge feel. Try demoing or renting if you can.
Hey Yum Yum. Wow what an opportunity! I'm probably not in the market until next year though. XC background, raced in the late 90s expert, but now just ride for fun/ get outdoors. I like a good climbing bike, but always loved bombing down.. nothing like Tyler, but let's just say I was always to the bottom of hill first with my xc buddies.
This bike is top of my list, but Transition Spur is up there too for me. You've touched on the comparisons on the two, but would love a video comparing those two back to back. Keep doing what you're doing. I get so much good info from your videos. Quality not Quantity 😉
Thanks for the kind words. It's been awhile since I last rode the Spur...
I had a Spur for 10 months my frame had issues with paint and frame chipping easily.
@Wes-o9t see.. that was one of my concerns. That Pivot just looks better made and more refined, but I've not seen either in person yet. Not a fan of the external routing brake line on spur as well, but I hear it rides great with that Geo. This is probably it's "secret sauce"
@@jeffreymagni1272 The Spur fit me like a glove 5'7" on a medium. I have a Giant Trance Advanced Pro 29 2 non live valve version and like that bike a lot more. Better climber/rides smoother. The Spur would break traction on the uphill's but wasn't bad. The Giant turns sharper too where you had to lean the Spur with your body more. FIt and finish of the Giant was much better than the Spur.
@@jeffreymagni1272 Also I wanted to add that I had the older Deep-Sea Green model with Rockshox SID suspension before they made the rear udh hanger where my frame chipped so maybe they have that sorted out now, (better paint, stronger rear triangle)
If I'm Pivot shopping, I'm looking at the firebird. But I like the occasional enduro race and don't give a hoot about climbing efficiency. Always feel more comfy on the big long rigs.
Nice. Well, the Firebird happens to be an excellent climber too!
how tall are you sooner02r1 ?
Wifes gonna kill me if I dial that phone number
haha do it!!
:DDDD u maniac
Been a long time subscriber of your channel and I've wanted a trail 429 for the past several years. Finally the time has come and picked one up from a local shop here in the PNW. I'm blown away at how FUN and capable this bike is. it opens up rides that I might not normally do on my enduro bike. I dont have to pull back much if at all on the downhills. If youre an enduro/DH rider at heart looking to open up other avenues of this sport, trail 429 is for you hands down!
Thanks for sharing. Yep! The shorter travel, more efficient bike does just as you said, opens up more/different opportunities of riding that would be less fun/desirable on a enduro bike.
Bought my Pivot Switchblade XO AXS this year right before the new crappier ones came out. Knox carbon rims and an I9 Hydra, it would be hard to have a mtb thats not a pivot, just to good and the service was so outstanding. I asked them hundreds of questions through chat and email before I bought the bike. Switchblade more fun than the Trail429 though.
Very nice! Congrats!
Had both a V4 Ripley and Trail 429 Enduro. Both climbed the same but the Trail 429 Enduro was much better on the downhill. The Enduro has a Fox 36 on the front and a piggy back shock.
Thanks for sharing! Nice to hear the perspective of someone who’s also ridden both!
I'd guess new 429 will be coming out for next season. Similar to what they did with the Switchblade this last season.
I bought a 429 in 2021 based on your video recommendation. It was an awesome bike that could do most anything and could be built to specialize more with different wheels and tires. I just recently sold it to build a Rascal V2, but I will definitely miss that 429.
Yeah, sadly for me the new iterations of Pivot bikes are a little too big for me. I’m stuck between a size small and medium. This current version of the trail for tonight fits me perfect and a medium.
@@mtbyumyum what year 429
Did you use for the video? I am 5’7” and would be in the same boat. I’ve been on the small and medium in the 2022/2023 models and it’s close - I think I am a medium
This video literally felt like an infomercial lol. The Trail 429 is a great bike but it is heavy, has a press fit BB, and has Superboost spacing. Those three things are a deterrent for me, but I owned the last generation and it was a great bike
Probably the best mountain bike reviewer on RUclips, he’s objective and very transparent.
haha... yeah, maybe a little bit.
@shaun thank you!!
@@shaun1900 He's selling bikes for Salt Cycles. They push the most expensive bikes. 90% of riders do not need Grip dampers, piggyback shocks, carbon and everything that Pivot offers. They only spec the highest end components and never offer models w the forks and shocks most people would do fine with. Why not offer bikes w Pike Select forks or Marzocchi Z2 forks and shocks like a Fox DPS? This is short travel trail bike. It doesn't need a freaking FOX 36 or burly, expensive fork. It would bring down the cost of the bikes by at least $1000. Not everyone is racing nor a pro, we just think we are.
@@petedog9581 what a load of words to articulate, not much. I watch plenty and I mean plenty of videos and reviews, this guy is on point and pretty reasonable. he reviews what he reviews and has a good audience. If you don't like what he does, its quite simple, fuck off and watch something else.
Ended up getting a Giant Trance Advanced 29 pro this year 120/130 version. I didn't know they would still have crazy good deals still happening. Oh well still a good bike.
Ive been on an Ibis V4 Ripley with 140mm 34mm fork and a Cane Creek headset slackener since maybe 2019. Works pretty good for most riding here in Colordo. If I were to add another bike, the Pivot Switchblade would be on the short list.
I love the V4 Ripley.... yours sounds awesome! Sadly, the new switchblade doesn't fit me....
@@mtbyumyum Interesting. By, "Doesn't fit me" Does that mean, small is too short and medium is too long?
@@endoalley680 Their mediums are big, long top tubes for people like me 5'7" 620mm where I like 600mm
At one time you mentioned maybe doing a comparison between the Trail 429 and the Mach 4 SL. How would you rate the Mach 4 SL against the Trail 429? (BTW - I purchased a 429 based on your reviews and I love it. Just looking for something a little lighter and perhaps a little more efficient climber but with the Dual Link suspension.)
Idk if 429’s ride the best but they sure look awesome!
Hi Jason, good video, the bad thing is that here in Mexico it is difficult to get those brands, the closest thing to the pivot and easiest to get is the specialized epic 8 evo, so let's go with what there is. greetings from sinaloa mexico
Thanks for saying hi. Bummer these are difficult to get in your country
No es tan difícil, existen distribuidores ya de pivot en Mexico, yo tengo la 429 y donde ando es muy común ver pivot sobre todo en ebike y la firebird.
Personally, I would prefer the 429 Enduro that comes with the 140mm Fox 36. I think the 140mm Fox 36 is going to stand up to rougher terrain and higher speeds better than the 130mm Fox 34. Also, I wouldn't mind if the 429 was a little longer and slacker, maybe a 76* STA and 65* HTA with the 140mm fork. Are you riding the 429 Enduro?
Yes, on the day of film I was riding the Enduro model. It was nice, but I’m not sure it actually handles much higher speeds better. The fox 36 is nice though! Also, I know the seat tube angle doesn’t seem very steep on these Pivots, but in all actuality, while riding, it feels plenty steep.
I´m in doubt betwenn this bike and new Ibis Ripley V5.... hard to decide!
I truly wish you would ride the new Propain Hugene 2 ..... I cant find any feedback unless its dealer or rider videos🙄
I rode the old version Hugene
I'd be curious how that bikes goes side by side to the Norco Optic. Pivot and Yeti are upper end of the price scale. Norco makes some incredible bikes that sell for less.
Unfortunately, I still haven’t had a chance to ride one in recent years
Best backcountry weapon I've ever owned...
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Because your an expert on ibis, have a question…. Currently own a Ripley v4s and want a bike that climbs similar but more travel. Is the ripmo V1 a good upgrade ? Yes old model but I need a bike that can climb similar to Ripley but handle better descents. I don’t need a ton more travel so ripmo v1 caught my attention. I want light weight trail with DW link. Thoughts ? Thanks 🤙🏻
The Ripmo‘s gonna feel like a pretty different bike. It won’t have that same zippiness that the Ripley has. And it doesn’t climb quite as well. It just feels different and needs a bit more speed than the ripley. Honestly, I think you would be better off looking at the trail 429. It feels more stable and controlled at speed and still climbs as well as the Ripley plus, Chris at Salt Cycles has them up to 35% off right now. Give them a call and see what he can do for you. Their phone number is 801-943-8502
Were those bird wheels? I would be curious what your thoughts are on berd wheels.
I've had two pairs of Berd wheels and they're incredible!! Salt Cycles can custom build you a pair... I have a pair with over 2,500 miles on them!! DT swiss 180 hubs and they're 1,093 grams!! Call Chris and talk to him about them. 801-943-8502
That’s an insanely light weight! How do you think they hold up on chunkier terrain?
I’m curious about these wheels as well. I’m only 145 lbs and suspect I could get away with some light wheels even in burly terrain.
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I switched to 27.5’s on my 429. Went with Berd spokes, we are one rims and onyx hubs and absolutely love this setup. Feals great on 2.6” tires too
@@troyesch6203 I’ve got a firebird but would love to shave off some weight with my wheel setup
I've just turned 40. 2 small kids, full time job (luckily can work from home).
Very little windows for riding, at times it's weeks or MONTHS without riding only option being with kids on baby seat attached to my oldschool hardtail.
This summer I've made a huge leap forward and bought Cannondale Scalpel 3 2024 + upgrades for it (light wheels etc.). Was very motivated by your review as well.
Time is precious. And when I have time I want to ride the best I can.
My next step is to move to a place with better climate where there is no cold winter :) Don't want to postpone riding on such a good bike untill spring.
Nice. Thanks for sharing. Congrats on the new Scalpel👍
I'm 6'-0", 215lbs. Mostly ride XC style trails in East TN with some light jumps occasionally. Cannondale Scalpel or Trail 429??? I would prioritize fast fast acceleration uphill.
Well the Scalpel will be faster climbing up hill… cant do what the t429 does in low traction scenarios or descending!
I've got the new Cannondale Scalpel and am loving it on the XC trails of North Texas.
@jenkinsb I think the Mach 4 SL might be what you’re looking for. Seems a better technical climber and more capable of chunkier descents than the Scalpel.
Jason would you say that the Mach 4SL falls somewhere between the Scalpel and 429?
M4sl is more similar to the scalpel than the t429
Just my two cents, at 210 pounds, I never felt the Ripley v4s was flexy. That said, with the new V5 Ripley moving slacker and with a more progression in the suspension, it has, to me, become a more aggressive rider’s bike.
I can’t agree more with your view that the more conservative geometry of the 429 is a better fit for most riders. A 66.5 head angle provides plenty of stability, while still being nimble enough to steer with the bars at low speeds. Likewise, the slightly slacker seat tube angle puts less pressure on your hands when riding flats and long grinding climbs. On sale, no brainer, I would get the Pivot 429 over the Ripley v5 (and I like Ibis, having had a Cousin It, Dv9, and still have a Ripley V4s and Ripmo v2 (son’s I ride).)
Wow, thanks for weighing in. Yeah I completely agree with what you’re saying here. The Trail 429 is just such a good trail bike in every situation!
Santa Cruz Tallboy LT (Cascade Link + 140mm airspring fork) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>__________
Stock for stock, easy.... T429. Never ridden a cascade link'd bike before....
The new charcoal / yellow color way is killer
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Another great review!
I appreciate that!!
@mtbyumyum Are you going to get on a Specialized Chisel FS?
Probably not
You recommend the yeti over the Ripley V4s ? Interesting
Over the years I've recommended the Pivot Trail 429 to more people than any other bike... it's just a really good fit for most people, most trails and most riding speeds. The V4 Ripley has been my personal favorite bike of all time. Love that bike.
@@mtbyumyum gotcha ya. Same here Ripley v4 🤙🏻
Do you know the answer he spec on the rear shock ? I bought a used 429 and was thinking about upgrading to the piggy back version
I still can’t believe you haven’t checked out the Orbea Rise Jase , you n Tyler have gotta try one 😂you’ll love it 👍🏾
I'd like to ride all the bikes.... it's just a matter of getting these bike for a few days to demo....
I'm shocked about your choice. Would have bet at least a dollar (not a gambler) on the Ibis Ripley. Guess I should try the Pivot 429 before I make up my mind. LOL
I chose my words carefully… most recommended bike… not favorite. V4 Ripley is still my favorite bike🤘
awesome stuff !! how does it compare to the ranger? never did see you review that bike??
Fun you bring up the Ranger... I've got one on demo now and should have a video review to publish here soon!!
@@mtbyumyum cant wait !! got mine down to 23.8 lbs with pedals, thing rips !!
Do you have a recommendation for something like the Trail 429 but without the Superboost rear end?
SB 120? Ripley V5? Revel Rascal?
I guess I'm looking at that 120mm/130mm range. Any thoughts?
If superboost is a deal killer I recommend the SB120. Very similar and even a little more poppy and playful… sort of in between the v4 Ripley and t429 really. Call Chris… maybe he can get you a good deal on one! 801-943-8502
@@mtbyumyum Superboost is only a dealbreaker because my other bike is not Superboost but is mullet (currently) but also 29" friendly. My plan is to be able to swap any/all parts back and forth as needed and be able to experiment with my other bike as it is now and as a full 29er and also make for easy sharing of parts between bikes in the event of a part failure.
I'm a picky guy I guess but I'm not a "buy things very often" kind of guy either. These bikes are going to be with me for a number of years and I want to make sure they're all no-down-time as possible with the option for some experiments!
I've heard a lot about the Yeti SB120. I'll definitely look into it!
...AND I'll call Salty Chris if/when the time comes to make the purchase!
I have a few boost wheelsets in my stable... Superboost has been a standard I have been trying to avoid... Is it worth getting a different wheel standard?
same crap I chose the santa cruz tallboy because I have 2 pairs of wheels for 2000 dollars
I’m 57 And here I just bought a 2023 stumpjumper pro. 😂
Haha congrats on the new bike. At some point you’ll have to try a Pivot with their incredible DW link suspension! Second to none!
@@mtbyumyum that was one I was actually looking at too but there was none around me to test ride. I test rode an sworks and that’s what made me decide on the stumpjumper.
Costs an incredible amount of $. I'll take my Rocky Mountain Instinct C-Series and keep $4K in my pocket. I rode a 429 in 2021 and it was too twitchy for me and the ST angle was sub 76 degrees... and the chainstays were short. It didn't corner particularly well nor track through chunk w/o deflection. It was great climber and pedaler though. I'm sure the bikes are more slack and stable with newer models.
@@petedog9581 what a dumb comment
Couple years back, I hopped on a plane from LA to SLC, got a hotel, woke up, went to Salt Cycles, rented a Pivot, Switchblade, and spent the weekend riding in Draper. Loved it. And Salt Cycles.
Nice. Glad you had a good time. Corner Canyon has excellent riding for all skill levels.
I have the Pivot Trail 429 enduro build. The 140 mil Fox 36 is a game-changer. I’d love to to hear your thoughts in a video where you ride the regular 429 back-to-back with the enduro build. Keep up the great content!
Yeah, I think I prefer the lighter weight of the standard model... the weight and spec of the enduro build starts to bleed into the weight and capability of the Yeti SB140 and I think at that point I'd personally go with the sb140 at that point.
Do you recommend the “enduro” build?
No. I prefer the standard model but I was riding the Enduro build while filming this video.... if you're a bigger guy or ride really really hard, consider the fox 36 up front.
120mm of travel for your weight works fine. I have 170 pounds and my bike has 140mm front and rear. I don´t need more than that for trail rides. So, maybe is all about the weight of the rider.
Your weight has nothing to with the travel of bike you choose. Using your logic, at 210 pounds, I would need a DH bike for trail riding. Weight affects suspension tuning and component choices, but how aggressive and fast you ride also has a huge effect on those variables.
Can anyone recommend me a sweet XC HT or FS that would be great for gravel and hills. I ride alot for exercise and love the XC style of frame.
If your riding gravel and dont want a gravel bike then I think a HT xc bike might make sense for you.
Trail 429 is a great bike. Just unfortunate this channel does not review YT bikes. The Izzo and Jeffsy are such great bikes. Honestly the Jeffsy climbs and descends better than the Trail 429 enduro.
I rode a YT Jeffsy a few years ago... honestly, nothing special about it. Standard 4 bar bike as I recall. I would love to ride all the bikes including YT, Canyon and other direct to consumer brands... they're just difficult to demo
Agreed, last Jeffsy nothing to special. Some magic sauce happened on the latest model. Maybe it’s just me, but I seems to climb better than a lot of other bikes.
any xc on sale @ salt cycles? (mach 4 sl?)
🤷♂️Give them a call 801-943-8502
So now that the Ripley got beefed up, between the RM Element vs 429 which one is faster in blue pedaling trails?
I just got an Element. Rode it last night on blue trails and it rips. It's fast and climbs so well. Blew my previous PR's out of the water. I came from a RM Instinct BC edition which I'm keeping for park days, but I doubt I'll ever trail ride it again.
The Element might feel a bit lighter under you... The t429 feels a bit more damp. Tracks the ground well and feel a bit quicker in tight spots.
Bought a 24 Element C50 coming from a pass-me-down Mojo3. Mojo3 suspension settings were spot on. Still playing with the Element, makes me wish I went with another Ibis.
@@norcoteamti395 I wished the new ripley stayed lighter and at 120mm travel. Looking for a sturdy XC/downcountry bike
@@rataflas Element is ok, wish I tried a few more bikes. I would probably buy a used V4 Ripley if I could go back in time.
LOL, I turn 40 next month and I remember when V brakes were the upgrade! So grateful for the amazing bike technology that makes it so fantastic to ride a huge variety of trails.
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@vashusan1984 lol me too! Remember ceramic Rims? They gave you a pretty good chance of stopping in wet/muddy conditions compared to the standard ones that for sure just slowed you down. Back in the day I had the Magura hydraulic rim brakes too. I still miss that lever feel.. actually, they were pretty damn good for the day.
Can you review the SCOR 4060 LT
Got my 429 a couple of years ago on your recommendation and haven’t looked back. It is a great do everything bike especially for a bigger guy like myself. The perfect bike for a weekend rider! Thanks Yum. When the new model refresh comes out, I’ll be having Salt build me up dream ride.
Wow, thanks for sharing! Yep! Such a good bike.
Huge thumbs up to Salt Cycles. Chris is a total gentleman, and my experience with them has been consistently excellent.
At first, I thought this would be the Blur review lol
haha I still haven't ridden the blur... I'll reach out to them
@@mtbyumyum You have ridden the best of the best, so I don't know if it would even be interesting to you by now. But it just seems like that one bike that that is missing from your reviews.
"Ibis may be noodle(lee)"
Funny, I am 6'2" and 175lbs expert-level rider...have ridden Ibis Ripleys since 2018. "Noodle-lee" is not something I would ever suggest the Ibis Ripley is as you suggested. Especially the v4.
To each his/her own...
I've had a number of people comment about me say the v4 Ripley was flexy if ridden hard or a heavier weight person. As I mentioned, for me, the v4 Ripley is as good as it gets and my favorite bike of all time. I've had a few friends mentioned it feel a bit flexy "noodle-lee" when ridden hard... they're also heavier/bigger people than me so over the years I've recommended the Trail 429 more often to people over the Ripley for that reason along with the t429 being an incredible short travel trail bike that climbs incredibly well.
@@mtbyumyum Maybe if over 200lbs, sure. I can see that. Especially the Exie. My larger friend just went straight to the Ripmo, he's 230lbs.
Not all equipment is made for everyone.
Too bad pivot switchblade/329 doesn't fit tall people.
Buy the bike with the best fork you can afford that's Trail. Its not very complicated 70 percent of riders will never push the bike for what its design for.
maybe!
I did not like the 429 I demoed. Terrible XC geometry. Uncomfortable.
Hmmm 🤔
Ripmo
superboost can't be recommended imho.
Full time job - check
Kids - check
In my 40s - check
Guess I am your demographic 😂
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@@mtbyumyum love your videos btw, and definitely reference them when looking for another arrow in the quiver.
Personally the bike I tend to ride most often is my Tallboy. I feel it punches above its class too, and feels stable for a bigger (200 lbs) rider like me. It can handle pretty much everything I ride in CO and UT, though I do prefer a bigger bike at parks.
I haven’t given the Pivot a try, but feel like I need to now.
I am looking at getting a new XC bike, and am leaning towards the yeti ASR.
I look though these comments and this IS an infomercial for a bunch of Pivot jock-huggers. Confirmation bias is the internet. Enjoy.
Unsure why there’s been a handful of comments like yours… I produce 1 video a year that pumps the bike shop that supports me and what I’m doing here on RUclips. The Pivot Trail 429 happens to be an excellent trail bike. Why the mean comment?? 🤷♂️
@@mtbyumyum They are great bikes that do not market themselves to most of the mtb consumer base. Basically they are part of the problem and why the industry is floundering.
The wealthy will pay whatever, and it drives the motives of the industry. As much as I have moved away from Specialized bikes, they do offer price points and builds most people can afford... not just high end stuff.
Look at the fire sale in 2023. $5K bikes were selling for less than $3K. That means the manufacturers were gouging with high prices all along. Now the prices for 2024 are right back up there. This is not mean. It is the reality of the bike industry.
It’s no different than buying a car. Yes you can find a cheaper car but it won’t drive as nice as a more expensive car. The options are not the same, materials are not the same etc etc. I don’t feel this review was bias at all for the wealthy. If anything it was opposite as he is letting everyone know they are 35% off. Yes there are cheaper bikes that are fun, but they do not feel the same as a Pivot or Yeti or even a Specialized S Works.
@@ryanhobbs9300 He has to pitch what his sponsor sells. I get it. I respect Yum and his reviews, but he has ridden so many bikes from just about every major brand. It seems curious, that the most expensive brand on the market is the suggestion.
Alloy Pivot bikes are $6500 w/o any discounts. My carbon 2023 Rocky Mountain Instinct went for $4800 before I bought it at 40% off for less than $3K. Why? Rocky makes lower specs to make great bikes affordable, as do many others. I'm fine with Deore and select level forks and shocks, alloy wheelsets, and decent hubs...as are most rec mtb riders.
I have ridden a 429 and it felt like good mtb. No more amazing the Stumpjumper I already had.
@@ryanhobbs9300 All the major bike makers make great bikes now. There are many bikes on par with Pivot or Yeti and much less $. They all have good frame warranties.
Do know how many times Yum has ridden a bike and said, "This is the one?" Many and from all kinds of brands. That just shows how good they all are. I prefer to ride a good bike and keep a couple grand$ in my pocket. Alloy Pivot bikes are over $6K before any discounts or sales. Even Santa Cruz makes more affordable builds available.
With any pivot, they are great until you get past the medium size. Once you go to the size, large and extra large is where everything goes to crap. The chainstay stays the same while the reach grows and grows, giving you unbalanced geometry with crazy bad front end vagueness that just wants to constantly wash-out. I recommend Pivot up to a medium but past that I'd go with banshee or Forbidden🫡
Interesting. Obviously I ride a medium so I can't speak to your experience... my buddy Jason is 6'4" and has been riding Pivot exclusively for the past 10 years. One of the fasted dudes I know both up and down hill... won the Deer Valley Enduro (pro cat.) a few years ago...
@mtbyumyum He's not winning anything in loose conditions, and hero dirt is called that for a reason. I have experience on the Pivot dating way back. You can make it work, but you'll never have the speed, stability, or front-end traction that you get with balanced geometry. Even Specialized is inching their way towards better balance. I'm on 495 reach, 15mm clamp, and 452mm stays. I think this ratio puts me close to where you are on the medium Pivot. With most manufacturers, the medium size is the sweet spot..