Someone said on the phone to me today that mixing charts are a work of art by themselves and then I saw this comment and now I'm not sure that I'm not in a Truman Show kind of existence.
It's definitely an interesting selection of colors.. especially for a botanical painter with the only cool pink being fugitive and so many multi pigment convenience colors. I'm betting she doesn't do a whole lot of mixing in her work but that is just based on how neutralized everything would be when combined. I actually set up a limited Winsor Newton palette that has phthalo turquoise as the cool blue option (it's a single pigment though) instead of phthalo blue and I quite enjoy it.. especially since I don't have phthalo green on the palette.. it kind of gives the best of both of the other pigments when mixing. The py129 is also fun for a cool yellow, I have it in my M Graham palette. If you like to paint flowers/foliage but don't like to mix it would probably be a good option.. I would 100% swap in a pv19 so every bright pink and purple you make will actually stay on the page. For my Senellier palette I went with the Billie Showell 6 tube set and added burnt sienna for mixing browns and greys.. it's a great little set, split primary with good solid pigments.
Paints being single or multi pigments has very little effect on the end result. What will influence a mix is opacity of the pigments and how many of them are a hue that will complement another pigment included :)
It's so fun to see a palette that's both unusual but also like, fairly functional and well-rounded (as opposed to some themed-palettes like the Gansai Tambi 70's palette (etc))! :oc
Thank you!! I'm glad! It's a bit easier to manage and has less chance of burning the interface into my phone screen (like it did with my previous phone...)
I recently ordered some half pans of Jackson’s brand watercolour and noticed that some of those were also in the translucent pan/case. Interesting given many people are saying the Jackson’s and Sennelier are the same.
That's a neat set of colors. I was thinking "ooh, what's that minty green?" and it's PG36. Wow! Could have swore there was white in it. I've been thinking about buying pthalo green ys to see how it affects the mood of my basic palette.
I did a test some time ago and took a PG36 and painted swatches with various amounts of white gouache in them and they match up this color. I don't know what is added in the paint to make it this color (possibly kaolin clay?) and yet not have to disclose a white pigment, but it's easy to reproduce at least!
I love that there's not a flower in sight on your demo painting! :D I still love it and I really appreciate the mixing chart. I know they are time consuming to make, but as a viewer it's also really informative. I could definitely work with this palette, no problem. I agree about the green umber and the turquoise! I have that turquoise mix in White Nights and I am honestly a bit obsessed with it on and off. I have precious few professional Sennelier paints, but the ones I have I absolutely enjoy and I have multiple more on my wishlist. Like Yellow Sophie. I gotta get my hands on that one sometime.
I have long loved Sennelier's Naples Yellow Deep (PBr24) and its subtle granulation. I think this palette is lovely and the only thing I'd change would be to bring in a PV19 and a PR122. I have a lot of these colors from Sennelier. Perhaps I'll put together a similar little palette... Also, I'm excited to look for a new artist to follow. Thanks, Eve!
I love it! Really fresh range of mixes, and a nice airy feel to them. I would really enjoy using a palette like this. However I guess I actually can already mix most of them with existing half pans some of them sennelier. Nothing but a malachite to substitute for that odd green though! It is an object of desire though I would have it if I could. The challenge would be what to add in the other side of the pallet that would not detract from unique and lovely selection.
You can get the same green if you mix a PG36 with a white of your choice (I made tests with white gouache, but I'm fairly sure that PW4 or PW6 in watercolors would also work). I agree about filling the rest of the palette, I have no idea what I'll put there... Maybe I'll go left field entirely and put some shimmer paints in there XD
Great review! I’m not a huge fan of Sennelier paints overall, but this set is VERY heavy on the multi-pigment mixes in a way that almost feels unnecessary. Phthalo Turquoise could have been PB15, Indian Yellow PY97 or PY74, Alizarin Crimson PR83 or PR264 (what was the point of this mix since, because they used the original pigment, it’s not a true “permanent” hue of Alizarin), and Greenish Umber looks like it could have been PBk31. The swatch chart of the multi-pigment mixes looks dull, likely because there are so many pigments in each paint. It’s so strange since, to me, Sennelier watercolors generally have a punchy brightness that make them look unnatural (my reason for not liking them) but that high chroma quality of this line is likely appealing to the artists who prefer this brand. (Though I do love Sennelier acrylic inks.) But if it works for Marie Boudon, who am I to criticize her selection?! She makes way more coins than me doing gorgeous art!
So many of these paints are mixtures, this palette would be so much better if it were simplified. Pure PB 60 for "Indigo," replace phthalo turquoise with pure PB 15:3, make Forest Green pure PG 7, replace Greenish Umber with PBk 7, and make Raw Sepia Pure PBr 7 and you lose almost nothing and you have cleaner colors to start your mixtures from. Half of the palette is the same few pigments mixed together.
true, but this isn't a matter of "better", merely a matter of how marie boudon likes to paint. from looking at her work i can see that she perhaps relies on the muting effect of these multi-pigment colours to make her work more cohesive. besides, these are the paints she chose, and that she enjoys - she is not suggesting that this is the only palette you can or should use, she is merely picking out the colours she likes working with and forming a palette from them. if you want to do a similar palette with single pigment colours, then go ham.
Mixtures are perfectly fine to use, they don't affect a mix any more than a single pigment paint of the same color would. The changes you propose would modify the look of this palette a lot and personally, I'd rather have Forest Green than PG7 because I already have so many PG7 in all of the more standard sets I own :) Like Hershel said, I also think that Marie Boudon enjoys working from colors without having to mix them beforehand. It allows for more consistency if one doesn't have to do the same mixes over and over again (that's what convenience colors allow, after all).
this is a really nice colour selection, I feel it's missing a really cool yellow but the rest of the colours are really interesting, It's refreshing to see sets like this.
For your art news Eve, Golden has some QoR Watercolor YInMn Blue 5ml: $14.00 by email invites. The price goes up on Monday. Let me know if you want me to forward you the email.
It might be more savvy to not let the full email and address available like this on youtube (I saved up all the info, so if you want to edit your comments to remove the sensitive stuff, it's good!). Again, thank you so much! :)
@@EveBolt I hope you're lucky. I already ordered, but it was $ 50 shipping costs with fedex - to Europe (no options, their choice) so I didn't buy it. Hope Canada is cheaper.
@@tlembro I got it from a French webstore (here: bit.ly/3BwBLPL). Jackson's has a few collaboration sets featuring tubes, the Emma Dibben set and the Billy Showell set.
that mixing chart is amazing its a work of art by itself
Someone said on the phone to me today that mixing charts are a work of art by themselves and then I saw this comment and now I'm not sure that I'm not in a Truman Show kind of existence.
Ah! Thank you! It's so much work :)
It's definitely an interesting selection of colors.. especially for a botanical painter with the only cool pink being fugitive and so many multi pigment convenience colors. I'm betting she doesn't do a whole lot of mixing in her work but that is just based on how neutralized everything would be when combined. I actually set up a limited Winsor Newton palette that has phthalo turquoise as the cool blue option (it's a single pigment though) instead of phthalo blue and I quite enjoy it.. especially since I don't have phthalo green on the palette.. it kind of gives the best of both of the other pigments when mixing. The py129 is also fun for a cool yellow, I have it in my M Graham palette. If you like to paint flowers/foliage but don't like to mix it would probably be a good option.. I would 100% swap in a pv19 so every bright pink and purple you make will actually stay on the page. For my Senellier palette I went with the Billie Showell 6 tube set and added burnt sienna for mixing browns and greys.. it's a great little set, split primary with good solid pigments.
Paints being single or multi pigments has very little effect on the end result. What will influence a mix is opacity of the pigments and how many of them are a hue that will complement another pigment included :)
@@EveBolt Exactly.. like the yellow in the Alizarin which made almost every mix go grey.
Beautiful painting! I just realized your style reminds me of Bill Watterson's Calvin and Hobbes - especially the line work and washes :)
Came back to look at this again and visited the link you posted. They have Fome boxes, for palette addicts! And a nice July sale…..
It's so fun to see a palette that's both unusual but also like, fairly functional and well-rounded (as opposed to some themed-palettes like the Gansai Tambi 70's palette (etc))! :oc
Yes!! I agree! And it's a themed palette that goes far enough into being different! And like you said, well-rounded :)
I really liked how you showed the process for the demo piece
Thank you!! I'm glad! It's a bit easier to manage and has less chance of burning the interface into my phone screen (like it did with my previous phone...)
I am really impressed with what a soothing and attractive palette that is! I was skeptical, but your cat painting was beautiful!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you liked the palette in the end! I think it's a very nice one to learn about new, great mixes :)
I recently ordered some half pans of Jackson’s brand watercolour and noticed that some of those were also in the translucent pan/case. Interesting given many people are saying the Jackson’s and Sennelier are the same.
Ooo, that's interesting! It would definitely follow the idea that Sennelier also makes the Jackson's house brand watercolor!
That's a neat set of colors. I was thinking "ooh, what's that minty green?" and it's PG36. Wow! Could have swore there was white in it. I've been thinking about buying pthalo green ys to see how it affects the mood of my basic palette.
I did a test some time ago and took a PG36 and painted swatches with various amounts of white gouache in them and they match up this color. I don't know what is added in the paint to make it this color (possibly kaolin clay?) and yet not have to disclose a white pigment, but it's easy to reproduce at least!
I love that there's not a flower in sight on your demo painting! :D
I still love it and I really appreciate the mixing chart. I know they are time consuming to make, but as a viewer it's also really informative.
I could definitely work with this palette, no problem. I agree about the green umber and the turquoise! I have that turquoise mix in White Nights and I am honestly a bit obsessed with it on and off.
I have precious few professional Sennelier paints, but the ones I have I absolutely enjoy and I have multiple more on my wishlist.
Like Yellow Sophie. I gotta get my hands on that one sometime.
The lack of flower wasn't even an intentional thing, lol
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@@EveBolt Oooh Wink wink!!!
Excellently presented as always... love the painting. 😻
Thank you so much! :3
Oh yes!
I have long loved Sennelier's Naples Yellow Deep (PBr24) and its subtle granulation. I think this palette is lovely and the only thing I'd change would be to bring in a PV19 and a PR122. I have a lot of these colors from Sennelier. Perhaps I'll put together a similar little palette... Also, I'm excited to look for a new artist to follow. Thanks, Eve!
I love it! Really fresh range of mixes, and a nice airy feel to them. I would really enjoy using a palette like this. However I guess I actually can already mix most of them with existing half pans some of them sennelier. Nothing but a malachite to substitute for that odd green though! It is an object of desire though I would have it if I could. The challenge would be what to add in the other side of the pallet that would not detract from unique and lovely selection.
You can get the same green if you mix a PG36 with a white of your choice (I made tests with white gouache, but I'm fairly sure that PW4 or PW6 in watercolors would also work).
I agree about filling the rest of the palette, I have no idea what I'll put there... Maybe I'll go left field entirely and put some shimmer paints in there XD
I am not familiar with her work, but I'm now curious, so I'll go look her up now! Thanks for the review☺️
Oh no, I forgot to include a link to her Instagram in the description, oops! It's here: instagram.com/tribulationsdemarie/
love it !!!!
Great review! I’m not a huge fan of Sennelier paints overall, but this set is VERY heavy on the multi-pigment mixes in a way that almost feels unnecessary. Phthalo Turquoise could have been PB15, Indian Yellow PY97 or PY74, Alizarin Crimson PR83 or PR264 (what was the point of this mix since, because they used the original pigment, it’s not a true “permanent” hue of Alizarin), and Greenish Umber looks like it could have been PBk31. The swatch chart of the multi-pigment mixes looks dull, likely because there are so many pigments in each paint. It’s so strange since, to me, Sennelier watercolors generally have a punchy brightness that make them look unnatural (my reason for not liking them) but that high chroma quality of this line is likely appealing to the artists who prefer this brand. (Though I do love Sennelier acrylic inks.) But if it works for Marie Boudon, who am I to criticize her selection?! She makes way more coins than me doing gorgeous art!
So many of these paints are mixtures, this palette would be so much better if it were simplified. Pure PB 60 for "Indigo," replace phthalo turquoise with pure PB 15:3, make Forest Green pure PG 7, replace Greenish Umber with PBk 7, and make Raw Sepia Pure PBr 7 and you lose almost nothing and you have cleaner colors to start your mixtures from. Half of the palette is the same few pigments mixed together.
true, but this isn't a matter of "better", merely a matter of how marie boudon likes to paint. from looking at her work i can see that she perhaps relies on the muting effect of these multi-pigment colours to make her work more cohesive.
besides, these are the paints she chose, and that she enjoys - she is not suggesting that this is the only palette you can or should use, she is merely picking out the colours she likes working with and forming a palette from them. if you want to do a similar palette with single pigment colours, then go ham.
Mixtures are perfectly fine to use, they don't affect a mix any more than a single pigment paint of the same color would. The changes you propose would modify the look of this palette a lot and personally, I'd rather have Forest Green than PG7 because I already have so many PG7 in all of the more standard sets I own :)
Like Hershel said, I also think that Marie Boudon enjoys working from colors without having to mix them beforehand. It allows for more consistency if one doesn't have to do the same mixes over and over again (that's what convenience colors allow, after all).
this is a really nice colour selection, I feel it's missing a really cool yellow but the rest of the colours are really interesting, It's refreshing to see sets like this.
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For your art news Eve, Golden has some QoR Watercolor YInMn Blue 5ml: $14.00 by email invites. The price goes up on Monday. Let me know if you want me to forward you the email.
!!!!!!! I would really appreciate that, yes! Oh man, I hope they ship to Canada! Thank you so much! :)
@@EveBolt were can I forward it to?
Oh! You can forward it to boltsvault@gmail.com
It might be more savvy to not let the full email and address available like this on youtube (I saved up all the info, so if you want to edit your comments to remove the sensitive stuff, it's good!). Again, thank you so much! :)
@@EveBolt I hope you're lucky. I already ordered, but it was $ 50 shipping costs with fedex - to Europe (no options, their choice) so I didn't buy it. Hope Canada is cheaper.
Nice to see a set of paints with a difference. Standard 12 sets don't always suit botanical artists.
Very true! Especially if they don't have a pink or magenta...
I’m the first to like and view this vid! Yaayay!
Just received this set from Jacksons….totally different colors
Jackson's doesn't sell this specific set. What's the one you got?
@@EveBolt Hey Eve……it came with the tubes and i think i just picked the wrong one…….where did you get yours?
@@tlembro I got it from a French webstore (here: bit.ly/3BwBLPL). Jackson's has a few collaboration sets featuring tubes, the Emma Dibben set and the Billy Showell set.
@@EveBolt Thank you so much Eve! Yes I got the Dibbon set….very nice….but i wanted the other set that you have. I will check them out Thank you!