qualified saw doctor here. that is not how you sharpen a saw. just sharpening the face will alter the height of each tooth, its very important that each tip is the the same height otherwise the tallest tooth will be doing all the work, so after refacing, the tips need to be trimmed afterwards.
Thank you for that! :) I am not a professional saw sharpener, just learning like most. So we all appriciate that tip. If it would not be to much of a bother. Would you explain how to shapen the tips? (meathod/tools, etc ) We are looking to do a quality shapening and cleaning video in the near future, and the more I can absorb from folks like you the better.
@@WoodWorkTherapy im not sure you can do it with that machine unless you can alter in some way. but basically after you've done the faces you would put it on another machine specifically for machining the top the tooth. all you would do it set the machine to follow the clearance angle of the tip and also the same angle of the kerf which would generally be 10 to 15° on a regular blade, triple chip is whole other story. if you've soldered on new tooth you would also need to side grind it to give it some set and to the same width as the other teeth. its been 20 years since ive sharpened a saw but i think if i had the machinery in front of me it would be like riding a bike. its a black art now.
@@WoodWorkTherapy also i would suggest getting a catch tray made up for the machine to sit in to catch coolant and have it drain into a bucket to be filtered and pumped back to the grinding wheel, important to keep diamond wheels cool and to keep the tungsten cool as well. also keeps the dust down.
I think if you started with a new blade, and were very careful, you could probably get two or three sharpenings on the face before altering the top any significant amount.
@billsmith-cr6dt You're welcome! I'm glad to hear that adjusting the pin height area to fit nicely under the blade resolved your issue. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask.
I just got delivery of the same VEVOR table saw blade sharpener. A few problems with it. The motor housing covering the end motor had a lots of dents, less than adequate packaging to handle a 60lb tool and probably some rough handling during shipping. Motor was not damaged. The large cupped washer that secures the blade was not as deep as the center bushing is tall. The blade bushing adapters are 1/8" taller than the cupped washer, leaving a large gap between the blade and the washer. I stuck some small rubber pads to the underside of the washer to make it work. The last problem I noticed right away was the diamond sharpening blade had a lot of runout (wobble) on it. When I measured the runout with a dial indicator the total indicated runout was 0.020 (twenty thousandts)...that's a problem! When you touch the saw blade to the sharpening blade you can easily hear it making uneven contact. When the motor stops and you look at the sharpening blade, you see only about 1/2 of the blade is actually making contact. This could be due to uneven diamond sharpening blade, very slight bend in the motor shaft, or the thick washers that secure the sharpening blade are not very flat. The problems are disappointing but not total show stoppers that would warrant shipping the tool back.
You had me at damaged motor housing. I would return that one. Especially since the other issues were prevalent as well. Mine came nice and mint as you would expect. So yeah I would return that in a heartbeat. That would be unacceptable in my book. Sorry to here you had that happen. :(
@@dtsouza2519 Can't say that I have to be honest. I haven't seen any noticeable divination in the blades to make me think to do that. Not saying it's a bad idea or anything. Just haven't felt the need to check for that level of accuracy based on cuts that I have made and the post cut accuracy that I get in the end. If I saw divination in the custs that might be something I would cause me to check and be alarmed.
@@WoodWorkTherapy Sorry for the additional question but could you please tell me the arbor size of the 5 inch for the grinding wheel. Also, could you recommend a high quality 5 inch grinding wheel for carbide tipped saw blades? I like to get an additional good one. Thank you!
Suggestion to you and any one that deal with or use grinding tools, Please use dust mask, N95 will do it, also a eye protection. I have a Q , what do you use to clean your blades? I bought a kit, but didn't use it yet. It came with the liquid spray bottle cleaner, pads and metal brush.
We fully agree. You should use a mask anytime you are working with anything that can generate small particles. On camera we have a tendency to bypass that rule for the sake of microphones, and other technical reasons. But you should not do that as that in real life. As far as cleaning blades, we actually use a blade cleaning solution called Trend Tool Cleaner: amzn.to/3j2Dd9b Which keeps everything cutting as it should. And it works rather fast. I use a nylon (I think it is nylon, it has plastic bristles) brush to remove the hard stuff. It's soft enough to not damage the teeth, but aggressive enough to lightly swipe the teeth and clean them. I also use a planter saucer: amzn.to/3VUTag5 to keep the fluid contained while I clean the blades. Cheep setup, but it gets the job done, and lessens burning by a lot! LOL I was thinking of doing a video on this if you are interested. Like a full blade tune up video. Let me know if that is of interest. :)
@@WoodWorkTherapy Forgot about the camera and microphone deal, and my intention was not as a critical one, but a heads up. Thanks for the info regarding the blade cleaning. Yes, I think it would be a good video, ppl would like it. I definitely like to see it! Ppl use oven cleaner, I use it once, but it's very abrasive, not sure if affect the blade holding the cutting edge.
@@PoisonShot20 Oh no worries. I was figuring you might not have understood that point on the mics. If you don't do this stuff, it's hard to understand. And I am all about educating on the channel. So no worries. :) On the video note, I will have to work on putting one together here soon. Blades have had little use for the past few months due to issues we are dealing with. But they are starting to get some use now, so I should have some dirty blades to show off soon! LOL
As far as we know this one we have in the description shouold fit, and be available. We launched the video with it back in October off 22' and have recived no negative feedback on it. Wich is always a good thing. :) Replacement disc: amzn.to/3e7VAXW
The Imbus for adjusting the tooth stop is useless, I replaced the Imbus head screw with a star head screw plastic and the adjustment itself is now much more efficient and convenient. No searching for the Imbus head hole, just turn the star plastic head and that's it.
I've been curious about that too! Surprisingly, I've had a really positive experience with the Vevor Table Saw Blade Sharpener. Honestly, zero complaints kind of happy with it. As for the water-based option, I'm not convinced it would make a significant difference. Since the blade only touches the grinder briefly, it's not like it's grinding the carbide extensively. Maybe it would provide a slightly finer result, but I doubt it would truly impact the blade's performance. Anyway, I'm no pro sharpener, just sharing my experience! 😄
Odd. Not sure why there would be different specs for the same unit. the Amazon listing still shows the 2800 rpm. And i checked the model number on Vevor's company site and it also states 2800 RPM. That being said, they do have other very similar sharpeners on the site. So maybe you clicked on one of those?
Thanks for your inquiry! We actually slowed down on our projects recently, which means our blade hasn't been used as frequently as usual. Despite this, it's still in pretty good shape and quite sharp. We tend to keep the FTG blade on most of the time since many of our filming projects require grooves and rabbits, which it handles well. Surprisingly, it has exceeded our expectations in terms of longevity and performance. It's due for a cleaning soon, but even then, it remains very sharp.
Doing a follow-up video actually sounds fun. Great suggestion! For some insight, it is still working and sharpening just fine. Still no issues. We are all still pleased with the performance and accuracy of the blade sharpener. I will see if we can get a more in-depth video going for the machine. Was looking to do a cleaning video here soon. Blades have kept well since I did the video oddly. LOL So I have been putting off the video, but might just do it to help others out, and get a little more perspective on the sharpener. :)
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Depending on how much woodwork you do, this machine would pay for itself sooner or later. That said, it would save the time and trouble having blades sharpened by someone else. Nice to not have to wait. DIY it.
That was why we wanted it to! Even sharpening occasionally, it's still worth it, because it is a long haul tool. Your not going to use it necessarily a lot as a hobbyist, but your going to have it for years to come, and that will save money there. And if your on the pro side, it will pay for itself very fast! :)
Why don't you put a stop on the teeth so that all the faces are ground the same? Then what is it there for? If you only grind your teeth by hand every time, after a while you will have a different tooth and the work with the disc will be much worse. While the angle of the blade is larger, after several manual grindings, each tooth will be a different height. I have had the same sander for several years.
Not fully understand the question you are asking. During the video, we did use the stop so we could only go so far on the grid. I know that it is hard to see in the video due to the angle but you can see the arm of the stop on the opposite side of the grinding wheel from the camera angle. Ultimately you can put the stop at any tooth that will stop the blade in a position that kisses the wheel realistically. 9:21
Crap review. You spent more time telling us how to cut a bit off an allen key than you did on how to use the machine. ie; how is the indexing of each tooth done, what is the motor adjustment handle for, etc etc.
We are sorry that the review did not help answer all of your questions. Please note this is a performance/features "review", not a how-to-use guide of the machine. I think the video your looking for is a how-to-use-the-machine kind of video. Product review videos do not often contain that kind of content as most viewers are looking to watch short-form content when it comes to reviews. Normally 5-10 minutes. We have found though that does not answer enough questions, so we have made a longer format on some reviews to help with that to an extent. The original video recording for this video was about 2+ hours. I am not certain anyone would want to hear me drone on for that long of an amount of time, LOL Anyway, not my rules, it's the way that the community prefers things. I know that can be frustrating. But we do attempt to somewhat follow the current trends that the RUclips community desires. If you have questions we are always happy to answer them for you. *Q:* How is the indexing of each tooth done? *A:* 8:38 It is shown how to sharpen once you have the pin in place. The pin for indexing is adjusted by an Allen wrench from underneath the pin plate itself. *Q:* What is the motor adjustment handle for? *A:* For adjusting the degree angle of the sharpening blade. _Ex. So if you have a 30-degree cut vs a perfect 90-degree, you can use that handle to loosen the motor to create that cut angle._ If you have further questions please feel free to respond to this thread. We are always happy to assist you.
@@WoodWorkTherapy Sorry for being a little bit too forthright and I accept your explanation however although I understand that your video was a performance review rather than a "how to", if you chopped out, how to attach the grinding wheel or the need to cut off a piece of the allen key you could have been a lot more descriptive with the "how to's". And still stay under 10 minutes. Although you say the video was a performance, features review, I don't believe that you reviewed any features. What is the handle on the cross slide for? You didn't appear to be using it when you sharpened the blade. I watch an awful lot of how to Utube clips and it drives me mad with the number of people that become talking heads when presenting a video. The worst mistake (and the most common) is the presenter going through all the pieces that are included with the particular machine. For example......now these are the tools that are included...you have a spanner..one end is about 12mm ...or it might be 1/2" I am not sure, the other end is 9/16", then we have several allen wrenches ... presenter picks up each one and holds it in front of camera, a hammer, some nuts and bolts, a screwdriver etc etc The reviewer has got to assume that the people watching his / her video have a least some common sense and can identify the parts supplied, know how to do up a nut, need to take the bits out of the plastic bag before installing them and instead explain the things that (a) are not described well or at all in the sales brochure and (b) are not described well or at all in the instructions. Anyway hope this is taken as constructive criticism.
@daocuster9270 I appreciate you taking the time to leave feedback on our video, and I completely understand where you're coming from. I apologize if the video felt like it was lacking in the "how-to" department. We definitely want to make sure our viewers get the information they need to properly use the product. In terms of the length of the video, we always try to strike a balance between being informative and keeping things concise. We understand that people's time is valuable, so we try to keep our video reviews under 10 minutes if possible. However, we'll definitely keep your feedback in mind moving forward and see if we can find ways to be more descriptive without sacrificing brevity. As for the handle on the motor, I can see how it may have been unclear in the video. The handle is used to move the motor slide back and forth, which can be helpful when sharpening blades of different lengths. The adjustment on the front is for left/right movement. We'll make sure to explain this more clearly in future videos. As we do intend to do a full sharpening video soon. I will use your feedback as part of how we are going to craft that video. I know we have had others that would like to have a deeper dive into sharpening/cleaning in general. And I think that is a great video idea for the channel I totally understand your frustration with "talking head" videos and unnecessary explanations of included tools. We try to avoid this as much as possible, but sometimes we may unintentionally include information that seems obvious. We'll do our best to focus on the important details and assume our viewers have a basic understanding of how to use the tools. Again, I appreciate and thank you for your constructive criticism, and hope you'll continue to watch our videos in the future. Let us know if there's anything else we can do to improve! Or any feedback on what you like. We love to hear from all of you! 😀
That is true of ATB blades. However not all blades have alternating teeth. Like the one in the video is a FTG blade(flat top grind). These are flat all sides persay. Here is a useful guide that goes into more depth on the topic. It can help with sharpening as well. (Note: I did not write this guide) www.toolboxtoday.com/the-types-of-saw-blade-teeth/
@@fanatamon Interesting. I looked up the blade in the video amzn.to/48iVHXz And I do see the 20 deg angle but there is no mention of varience on the teath casing a 3 deg offset alternating. Keep in mind that FTG blades are not supposed to have a ATB like tooth. That is a difficiency in the performance of FTG is they are also flat faced making them slower to cut as they more or less wack the wood vs slice the fibers like an ATB blade wood. So I am not sure why yours has a 3 deg angle offset on the teeth. Seems a bit odd from everything Ihave read on it. Keep in mind the blade is working as good as new, and oddly is regularly used due to my personal lazyness to chaneg the blade. LOL Side note, when I setup the blade on the grider, I used the blade to create the offset. I had to reste for the glue rip blade, not shown. Do you have the blade model number of the FTG you are using? I might be interested in an FTG with a offset. Might make a cleaner cut...
@@WoodWorkTherapy Pretty sweet blades I use them for a range of stuff from decking to fix out etc do a nice cut. The blade in concern is a 305 80t Diablo blade it is an ATB grind but thats all I can find out, the kerf angle I got from matching the angle on the saw blade sharpener. I have a half dozen of these blades and it the blades do appear to have the same kerf angle. Be interested to know if you have any more sharpening info on these. I have sharpened them a heap and they still cut well.
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You don't address the over all quality of the machine. Are all the knobs metal or plastic and is it a solidly built machine. No one cares about allen wrenches or plastic cover over the switches. Also, you are just "flat" sharpening the blade teeth with no mention of angle to the grinding wheel. Poor video.
Thank you for sharing your feedback. We acknowledge your points, and upon reflection, we realize that some details, such as the materials used in the machine, might not have been clearly conveyed through visuals alone. We understand that the angles, particularly during the blade grinding process, may have been challenging to perceive due to the slight angle employed. Upon revisiting this video, recorded almost 1.5 years ago, your insights now make perfect sense to us. We appreciate your suggestions and valuable tips. As we plan to revisit and reevaluate this content in the near future, we commit to incorporating your feedback, along with additional insights and lessons we've gained over the past years. Thank you for helping us improve our content.
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qualified saw doctor here. that is not how you sharpen a saw. just sharpening the face will alter the height of each tooth, its very important that each tip is the the same height otherwise the tallest tooth will be doing all the work, so after refacing, the tips need to be trimmed afterwards.
Thank you for that! :) I am not a professional saw sharpener, just learning like most. So we all appriciate that tip. If it would not be to much of a bother. Would you explain how to shapen the tips? (meathod/tools, etc ) We are looking to do a quality shapening and cleaning video in the near future, and the more I can absorb from folks like you the better.
@@WoodWorkTherapy im not sure you can do it with that machine unless you can alter in some way. but basically after you've done the faces you would put it on another machine specifically for machining the top the tooth. all you would do it set the machine to follow the clearance angle of the tip and also the same angle of the kerf which would generally be 10 to 15° on a regular blade, triple chip is whole other story. if you've soldered on new tooth you would also need to side grind it to give it some set and to the same width as the other teeth. its been 20 years since ive sharpened a saw but i think if i had the machinery in front of me it would be like riding a bike. its a black art now.
@@WoodWorkTherapy also i would suggest getting a catch tray made up for the machine to sit in to catch coolant and have it drain into a bucket to be filtered and pumped back to the grinding wheel, important to keep diamond wheels cool and to keep the tungsten cool as well. also keeps the dust down.
I think if you started with a new blade, and were very careful, you could probably get two or three sharpenings on the face before altering the top any significant amount.
@@dontwobble thank you
Thank you. The setting of the pin height area to fit nicely under the blade sorted out my issue
@billsmith-cr6dt You're welcome! I'm glad to hear that adjusting the pin height area to fit nicely under the blade resolved your issue. If you have any more questions or need further assistance, feel free to ask.
I just got delivery of the same VEVOR table saw blade sharpener. A few problems with it. The motor housing covering the end motor had a lots of dents, less than adequate packaging to handle a 60lb tool and probably some rough handling during shipping. Motor was not damaged. The large cupped washer that secures the blade was not as deep as the center bushing is tall. The blade bushing adapters are 1/8" taller than the cupped washer, leaving a large gap between the blade and the washer. I stuck some small rubber pads to the underside of the washer to make it work. The last problem I noticed right away was the diamond sharpening blade had a lot of runout (wobble) on it. When I measured the runout with a dial indicator the total indicated runout was 0.020 (twenty thousandts)...that's a problem! When you touch the saw blade to the sharpening blade you can easily hear it making uneven contact. When the motor stops and you look at the sharpening blade, you see only about 1/2 of the blade is actually making contact. This could be due to uneven diamond sharpening blade, very slight bend in the motor shaft, or the thick washers that secure the sharpening blade are not very flat. The problems are disappointing but not total show stoppers that would warrant shipping the tool back.
You had me at damaged motor housing. I would return that one. Especially since the other issues were prevalent as well. Mine came nice and mint as you would expect. So yeah I would return that in a heartbeat. That would be unacceptable in my book. Sorry to here you had that happen. :(
@@WoodWorkTherapy Have you ever checked the run out on your blade? I'm curious if run out is excessive on other tools.
@@dtsouza2519 Can't say that I have to be honest. I haven't seen any noticeable divination in the blades to make me think to do that. Not saying it's a bad idea or anything. Just haven't felt the need to check for that level of accuracy based on cuts that I have made and the post cut accuracy that I get in the end. If I saw divination in the custs that might be something I would cause me to check and be alarmed.
Will tilt to a 40° angle? I want to sharpen 40° ATB /12" Duraline Hi-A/T . Thank you.
Great question! Yes, it will and more if you need. It is quite accommodating.
@@WoodWorkTherapy That's great! Thank you.
@@WoodWorkTherapy Sorry for the additional question but could you please tell me the arbor size of the 5 inch for the grinding wheel. Also, could you recommend a high quality 5 inch grinding wheel for carbide tipped saw blades? I like to get an additional good one. Thank you!
Suggestion to you and any one that deal with or use grinding tools, Please use dust mask, N95 will do it, also a eye protection. I have a Q , what do you use to clean your blades? I bought a kit, but didn't use it yet. It came with the liquid spray bottle cleaner, pads and metal brush.
We fully agree. You should use a mask anytime you are working with anything that can generate small particles. On camera we have a tendency to bypass that rule for the sake of microphones, and other technical reasons. But you should not do that as that in real life.
As far as cleaning blades, we actually use a blade cleaning solution called Trend Tool Cleaner: amzn.to/3j2Dd9b Which keeps everything cutting as it should. And it works rather fast. I use a nylon (I think it is nylon, it has plastic bristles) brush to remove the hard stuff. It's soft enough to not damage the teeth, but aggressive enough to lightly swipe the teeth and clean them. I also use a planter saucer: amzn.to/3VUTag5 to keep the fluid contained while I clean the blades. Cheep setup, but it gets the job done, and lessens burning by a lot! LOL I was thinking of doing a video on this if you are interested. Like a full blade tune up video. Let me know if that is of interest. :)
@@WoodWorkTherapy Forgot about the camera and microphone deal, and my intention was not as a critical one, but a heads up. Thanks for the info regarding the blade cleaning. Yes, I think it would be a good video, ppl would like it. I definitely like to see it! Ppl use oven cleaner, I use it once, but it's very abrasive, not sure if affect the blade holding the cutting edge.
@@PoisonShot20 Oh no worries. I was figuring you might not have understood that point on the mics. If you don't do this stuff, it's hard to understand. And I am all about educating on the channel. So no worries. :)
On the video note, I will have to work on putting one together here soon. Blades have had little use for the past few months due to issues we are dealing with. But they are starting to get some use now, so I should have some dirty blades to show off soon! LOL
@@WoodWorkTherapy All right! Will be on the look out for it. Be well!🕊️
@@PoisonShot20 And you as well! Happy holidays! And stay safe in the shop. :)
My concern that I have heard others mention, are replacement grinding wheels available?
As far as we know this one we have in the description shouold fit, and be available. We launched the video with it back in October off 22' and have recived no negative feedback on it. Wich is always a good thing. :) Replacement disc: amzn.to/3e7VAXW
Well China is starting to produce many types of 1 1/4" bore grinding wheels.
I have always bought mine from Amazon which has a number of suppliers all form China, but it is a made in China machine.
The Imbus for adjusting the tooth stop is useless, I replaced the Imbus head screw with a star head screw plastic and the adjustment itself is now much more efficient and convenient. No searching for the Imbus head hole, just turn the star plastic head and that's it.
Thank you for sharing this brilliant idea for improving the adjustment process!
I'm wondering if the water injection model may do a better job.
I've been curious about that too! Surprisingly, I've had a really positive experience with the Vevor Table Saw Blade Sharpener. Honestly, zero complaints kind of happy with it. As for the water-based option, I'm not convinced it would make a significant difference. Since the blade only touches the grinder briefly, it's not like it's grinding the carbide extensively. Maybe it would provide a slightly finer result, but I doubt it would truly impact the blade's performance. Anyway, I'm no pro sharpener, just sharing my experience! 😄
You got the 2850 rpm model. I saw a same unit but touts a 3600 RPM. hmmm
Odd. Not sure why there would be different specs for the same unit. the Amazon listing still shows the 2800 rpm. And i checked the model number on Vevor's company site and it also states 2800 RPM. That being said, they do have other very similar sharpeners on the site. So maybe you clicked on one of those?
Your video is a year old now. How do you feel about the machine now? How long did the blade last you?
Thanks for your inquiry! We actually slowed down on our projects recently, which means our blade hasn't been used as frequently as usual. Despite this, it's still in pretty good shape and quite sharp. We tend to keep the FTG blade on most of the time since many of our filming projects require grooves and rabbits, which it handles well. Surprisingly, it has exceeded our expectations in terms of longevity and performance. It's due for a cleaning soon, but even then, it remains very sharp.
Thank you ❤
In my area we have no Blade Sharping Service. So I will get one real soon.😊😊😊
A blade sharpener is a nice investment tool. No shipping, no paying for labor, and they will last a realy long time!
Can you de a follow-up review now that you have had the machine for a few months?
Doing a follow-up video actually sounds fun. Great suggestion! For some insight, it is still working and sharpening just fine. Still no issues. We are all still pleased with the performance and accuracy of the blade sharpener. I will see if we can get a more in-depth video going for the machine. Was looking to do a cleaning video here soon. Blades have kept well since I did the video oddly. LOL So I have been putting off the video, but might just do it to help others out, and get a little more perspective on the sharpener. :)
@@WoodWorkTherapyyep agreed I have one for around a yr now and still working well.
great vidio Bob England
Thank you! 😀
The plastic cover over the switches is to keep metal dust out.
That was my thought on that. But I didn't want to say it in the video and sound dumb! LOL But thank you for clarifying that. 😀
How much rate indian Rs.
According to Google Curency, in Indian Rupee it comes out as 14183.13 Rs.
Price
Apparently the listing was updated. Here is the current sharpener listing, and price: amzn.to/4eZcH90
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Depending on how much woodwork you do, this machine would pay for itself sooner or later. That said, it would save the time and trouble having blades sharpened by someone else. Nice to not have to wait. DIY it.
That was why we wanted it to! Even sharpening occasionally, it's still worth it, because it is a long haul tool. Your not going to use it necessarily a lot as a hobbyist, but your going to have it for years to come, and that will save money there. And if your on the pro side, it will pay for itself very fast! :)
Why don't you put a stop on the teeth so that all the faces are ground the same? Then what is it there for? If you only grind your teeth by hand every time, after a while you will have a different tooth and the work with the disc will be much worse. While the angle of the blade is larger, after several manual grindings, each tooth will be a different height. I have had the same sander for several years.
Not fully understand the question you are asking. During the video, we did use the stop so we could only go so far on the grid. I know that it is hard to see in the video due to the angle but you can see the arm of the stop on the opposite side of the grinding wheel from the camera angle. Ultimately you can put the stop at any tooth that will stop the blade in a position that kisses the wheel realistically. 9:21
Crap review. You spent more time telling us how to cut a bit off an allen key than you did on how to use the machine. ie; how is the indexing of each tooth done, what is the motor adjustment handle for, etc etc.
We are sorry that the review did not help answer all of your questions. Please note this is a performance/features "review", not a how-to-use guide of the machine. I think the video your looking for is a how-to-use-the-machine kind of video. Product review videos do not often contain that kind of content as most viewers are looking to watch short-form content when it comes to reviews. Normally 5-10 minutes. We have found though that does not answer enough questions, so we have made a longer format on some reviews to help with that to an extent. The original video recording for this video was about 2+ hours. I am not certain anyone would want to hear me drone on for that long of an amount of time, LOL
Anyway, not my rules, it's the way that the community prefers things. I know that can be frustrating. But we do attempt to somewhat follow the current trends that the RUclips community desires.
If you have questions we are always happy to answer them for you.
*Q:* How is the indexing of each tooth done?
*A:* 8:38 It is shown how to sharpen once you have the pin in place. The pin for indexing is adjusted by an Allen wrench from underneath the pin plate itself.
*Q:* What is the motor adjustment handle for?
*A:* For adjusting the degree angle of the sharpening blade.
_Ex. So if you have a 30-degree cut vs a perfect 90-degree, you can use that handle to loosen the motor to create that cut angle._
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@@WoodWorkTherapy Sorry for being a little bit too forthright and I accept your explanation however although I understand that your video was a performance review rather than a "how to", if you chopped out, how to attach the grinding wheel or the need to cut off a piece of the allen key you could have been a lot more descriptive with the "how to's". And still stay under 10 minutes.
Although you say the video was a performance, features review, I don't believe that you reviewed any features. What is the handle on the cross slide for? You didn't appear to be using it when you sharpened the blade.
I watch an awful lot of how to Utube clips and it drives me mad with the number of people that become talking heads when presenting a video. The worst mistake (and the most common) is the presenter going through all the pieces that are included with the particular machine. For example......now these are the tools that are included...you have a spanner..one end is about 12mm ...or it might be 1/2" I am not sure, the other end is 9/16", then we have several allen wrenches ... presenter picks up each one and holds it in front of camera, a hammer, some nuts and bolts, a screwdriver etc etc
The reviewer has got to assume that the people watching his / her video have a least some common sense and can identify the parts supplied, know how to do up a nut, need to take the bits out of the plastic bag before installing them and instead explain the things that (a) are not described well or at all in the sales brochure and (b) are not described well or at all in the instructions. Anyway hope this is taken as constructive criticism.
@daocuster9270 I appreciate you taking the time to leave feedback on our video, and I completely understand where you're coming from. I apologize if the video felt like it was lacking in the "how-to" department. We definitely want to make sure our viewers get the information they need to properly use the product.
In terms of the length of the video, we always try to strike a balance between being informative and keeping things concise. We understand that people's time is valuable, so we try to keep our video reviews under 10 minutes if possible. However, we'll definitely keep your feedback in mind moving forward and see if we can find ways to be more descriptive without sacrificing brevity.
As for the handle on the motor, I can see how it may have been unclear in the video. The handle is used to move the motor slide back and forth, which can be helpful when sharpening blades of different lengths. The adjustment on the front is for left/right movement. We'll make sure to explain this more clearly in future videos. As we do intend to do a full sharpening video soon. I will use your feedback as part of how we are going to craft that video. I know we have had others that would like to have a deeper dive into sharpening/cleaning in general. And I think that is a great video idea for the channel
I totally understand your frustration with "talking head" videos and unnecessary explanations of included tools. We try to avoid this as much as possible, but sometimes we may unintentionally include information that seems obvious. We'll do our best to focus on the important details and assume our viewers have a basic understanding of how to use the tools.
Again, I appreciate and thank you for your constructive criticism, and hope you'll continue to watch our videos in the future. Let us know if there's anything else we can do to improve! Or any feedback on what you like. We love to hear from all of you! 😀
@@WoodWorkTherapyI thought the video was balanced and it explained enough for what it was meant to explain.
@@WoodWorkTherapy there was definitely too much blah blah blah and not enough about the machine.
I thought every other tooth is a different angle. You sharpened every tooth square.
That is true of ATB blades. However not all blades have alternating teeth. Like the one in the video is a FTG blade(flat top grind). These are flat all sides persay. Here is a useful guide that goes into more depth on the topic. It can help with sharpening as well. (Note: I did not write this guide) www.toolboxtoday.com/the-types-of-saw-blade-teeth/
@@WoodWorkTherapyI have a number of ATB Diablo 80tooth blades and they all have the same about 3deg on the TCT face angle.
@@fanatamon Interesting. I looked up the blade in the video amzn.to/48iVHXz And I do see the 20 deg angle but there is no mention of varience on the teath casing a 3 deg offset alternating. Keep in mind that FTG blades are not supposed to have a ATB like tooth. That is a difficiency in the performance of FTG is they are also flat faced making them slower to cut as they more or less wack the wood vs slice the fibers like an ATB blade wood. So I am not sure why yours has a 3 deg angle offset on the teeth. Seems a bit odd from everything Ihave read on it. Keep in mind the blade is working as good as new, and oddly is regularly used due to my personal lazyness to chaneg the blade. LOL Side note, when I setup the blade on the grider, I used the blade to create the offset. I had to reste for the glue rip blade, not shown.
Do you have the blade model number of the FTG you are using? I might be interested in an FTG with a offset. Might make a cleaner cut...
@@WoodWorkTherapy Pretty sweet blades I use them for a range of stuff from decking to fix out etc do a nice cut. The blade in concern is a 305 80t Diablo blade it is an ATB grind but thats all I can find out, the kerf angle I got from matching the angle on the saw blade sharpener. I have a half dozen of these blades and it the blades do appear to have the same kerf angle. Be interested to know if you have any more sharpening info on these. I have sharpened them a heap and they still cut well.
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You don't address the over all quality of the machine. Are all the knobs metal or plastic and is it a solidly built machine. No one cares about allen wrenches or plastic cover over the switches. Also, you are just "flat" sharpening the blade teeth with no mention of angle to the grinding wheel. Poor video.
Thank you for sharing your feedback. We acknowledge your points, and upon reflection, we realize that some details, such as the materials used in the machine, might not have been clearly conveyed through visuals alone. We understand that the angles, particularly during the blade grinding process, may have been challenging to perceive due to the slight angle employed.
Upon revisiting this video, recorded almost 1.5 years ago, your insights now make perfect sense to us. We appreciate your suggestions and valuable tips. As we plan to revisit and reevaluate this content in the near future, we commit to incorporating your feedback, along with additional insights and lessons we've gained over the past years. Thank you for helping us improve our content.
@@WoodWorkTherapydude, it has to be exhausting responding positively to web dicks