Home Equity Line of Credit - Dave Ramsey Rant

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  • @barttfisher
    @barttfisher Месяц назад +404

    I admire the financial independence of people, But you can live better if you work a little more. After watching this I think there are people out there, on the extreme, who plan to die early just to be able to retire early. To each their own but to me retirement isn't just about not having to work, it's about having the freedom to do whatever you might reasonably want, such as travel, buying things, enjoying life, etc. I don't think I could retire with less than $3m in income-generating investments, maybe $2m at the very minimum. I plan to work until I'm at least 45

    • @beafoster747
      @beafoster747 Месяц назад

      Nobody knows anything, you need to create your own process, manage risk and stick to the plan, through thick or thin while also continuously learning from mistakes and improving

    • @HildaBennet
      @HildaBennet Месяц назад

      Spot on advice. Great job! And yeah, I think we investors overestimate how hard it is to stay in the market when things aren't looking too good. Whenever I'm tempted to either cut losses or capture profits, I remind myself of Fidelity's study of their best performing portfolios; the best performers were either dead or forgot they had an account. So now with directives from my asset manager, I pick assets that can perform similarly in both short and long term. My portfolio has been foolproof so far

    • @PennyBergeron-os4ch
      @PennyBergeron-os4ch Месяц назад

      Who’s the person guiding you

    • @HildaBennet
      @HildaBennet Месяц назад

      Just google Sonya Lee Mitchell and do your own research. She has portfolio management down to a science

    • @PennyBergeron-os4ch
      @PennyBergeron-os4ch Месяц назад

      I ran an online search on her name and came across her websiite; pretty well educated. thank you for sharing.

  • @tahirisaid2693
    @tahirisaid2693 11 месяцев назад +289

    HELOAN, HELOCs and cash-out refis should ONLY be used as leverage for investing in rental real estate. If you have sufficient equity in your primary residence and you’ve done your due diligence and the numbers work out on a great deal, a HELOC is preferable as you can pay it off when your ARV (After Rehab Value) on the new acquisition is enough to refinance the total debt. Service that debt from the rental revenue and enjoy the residual net cash flow. Then use it again on future acquisitions. This is what I’m doing.

    • @florianmadison
      @florianmadison 11 месяцев назад

      1. Avoid big banks for HELOCs (especially BOA)
      2. Try smaller local banks & credit unions. (I use a credit union)
      3. Filter your online searches to lenders offering HELOCs that accommodate your goals.
      4. HELOCs should ONLY be used for short-term rental rehab capital.
      The intent is to force sufficient appreciation (ARV) to refinance the total debt with a new fixed, low interest, 30 year loan. The rental income should more than pay for the new mortgage with residual monthly cash flow and tax benefits. Repeat and scale to retirement net worth. Don’t give up! It works!

    • @tahirisaid2693
      @tahirisaid2693 11 месяцев назад

      The only way I was able to scale through all of this without stress was by working with a financial adviser. My adviser *ROCHELLE DUNGCA-SCHREIBER* has always had my back all through the process of property investment and investing in general. You can glance her name up on the internet and verify her yourself. she has years of financial market experience.

    • @VancityAnu
      @VancityAnu 2 месяца назад +3

      lol. this thread is a fkn joke.

  • @TheMechanicj
    @TheMechanicj 3 года назад +545

    I did a home equity loan built my mechanic shop tripled my income from 33 to 100k after expenses went from a dealership to owning my own shop paid it off in 3 years so sometimes you can make money with a heloc

    • @jgirl4life07
      @jgirl4life07 2 года назад +3

      Any advice or everything went smoothly for you with repaying?

    • @TheMechanicj
      @TheMechanicj 2 года назад +20

      @@jgirl4life07 marketing you tell everyone ooh know you do mechanic work and every business you buy fast food just to give out ur business card

    • @jonnygunn6259
      @jonnygunn6259 2 года назад +22

      You’re lucky! If things had gone the least bit sideways, you would have lost your business and your home. Thank goodness it worked for you this time, but be careful recommending this.

    • @TheMechanicj
      @TheMechanicj 2 года назад +28

      @@jonnygunn6259 lucky not so much I work a lot now if I got disabled then yeah it wouldn’t be any fun but I had no other debts besides my home my wife could cover the payments if I got disabled and if I died she be rich got big life policies

    • @nvictorme
      @nvictorme 2 года назад +1

      Congrats! 👏 That's wicked smart.

  • @joebloe4561
    @joebloe4561 3 года назад +40

    "Stupid looks smart when times are good." True!

  • @jaredrice4612
    @jaredrice4612 3 года назад +224

    2018: this is the time to sell
    Me in 2021: hahahahahahahaha

    • @avisharma1006
      @avisharma1006 3 года назад +5

      EXACTLY!

    • @BadOmenRGV
      @BadOmenRGV 3 года назад +41

      Difference is now you can't find a house once you sell yours lol.

    • @OctogonOxygen024816
      @OctogonOxygen024816 2 года назад +12

      @@BadOmenRGV so take out a Home Equity and buy a 2nd, keep it rented and real the equity from both properties.

    • @chikipichi5280
      @chikipichi5280 2 года назад +4

      Da impending house crash of 21

    • @greenearthblueskies8556
      @greenearthblueskies8556 2 года назад +1

      @@BadOmenRGV 🤣

  • @benking4476
    @benking4476 3 года назад +216

    2018 was a good time to sell. Until 2021 came along.

    • @AcidicMentality
      @AcidicMentality 2 года назад +18

      I bought my house in summer 2020 and my houses value has increased over 25% in less than a year.

    • @christopherk396
      @christopherk396 2 года назад +8

      Bought mine in 2017 for 280 and it's worth about 450 now. Been rented out the entire time, luckily.

    • @laartwork
      @laartwork 2 года назад +10

      2021 great year to sell. Bad to buy.

    • @scmcreations
      @scmcreations 2 года назад

      LOLs

    • @1StevenValdez1
      @1StevenValdez1 2 года назад +1

      Bought my house in AZ, July 2018 it's increased over 85% I've been dying to sell. Going to put in for a base outside the state so i can move that 185K + onto a rental property. While using the VA loan to get into my primary home.

  • @tinas2857
    @tinas2857 2 года назад +69

    “Now you’ve financed a freakin’ steak over 30 years.!” 😂😂

  • @LifeCoach44
    @LifeCoach44 4 года назад +12

    Unless the 10+ banks I inquired about HELOCs are outliers, they tend to be tied to the Prime Rate, not just the "lender's mood".

  • @LisaSimplified
    @LisaSimplified 6 лет назад +353

    I applied for a home equity loan and what Dave describes is exactly what I got in the terms. Can't believe people fall for this. Seriously the bank can change the terms any time they want to any rate they want. I got scared and backed out. Thank goodness!

    • @xxZerosumxx
      @xxZerosumxx 5 лет назад +49

      That's why you ask for a fixed rate

    • @jethro9341
      @jethro9341 5 лет назад +29

      Dave is intentionally misleading people here. A heloc and a home equity loan are not the same thing. A heloc can be called dur by the bank, but if you're doing it right, you only have one to two months of mortgage payments due at any given time. Look up credit card float. Think of the heloc as a credit card.

    • @TheEmanExperience
      @TheEmanExperience 5 лет назад +2

      inXS How can I use the equity of my house that is already paid off?

    • @jennifernelson6187
      @jennifernelson6187 2 года назад +5

      Get a fixed rate.

    • @Thrivinglife3835
      @Thrivinglife3835 Год назад +2

      You asked for a fixed rate. 😊

  • @FernandoMartinez-pv1id
    @FernandoMartinez-pv1id 3 года назад +13

    My Dad bought a $300K house in 1993 here in San Jose. It's worth $1.6 Million now and because he took out so many Home Equity Loans, he lost the House and has nothing to show for it. I will never borrow against my house.

  • @blakebuol3386
    @blakebuol3386 2 года назад +99

    I work at a bank and have seen multiple people use home equity to use as money down on new rental property investments and make a ton of money. As long as you are using it to make money I see no problem.

    • @johnnycalderon9951
      @johnnycalderon9951 2 года назад +11

      I'm using it now to build a house. as long as u get a fixed rate you good. I guess im.dumber then a rock lol

    • @MohawkFlippinMike
      @MohawkFlippinMike 2 года назад +7

      They did a video about the brrrr method and laughed like no one is rich off it. Lol keeping the sheep in their herd I guess

    • @ash86marie
      @ash86marie Год назад +1

      @@johnnycalderon9951 you can’t get a fixed rate for a heloc. Do you mean fixed rate for the new home you’re building?

    • @smallpeople172
      @smallpeople172 Год назад +3

      @@ash86marie yes you can. There are fixed rate helocs and they are very often below standard mortgage rates

    • @jailashae2932
      @jailashae2932 Год назад +2

      @Small People you may be referring to a “heloan”.

  • @gregtaylor113
    @gregtaylor113 Год назад +29

    i did a HELOC in 1997( 60% of value)...it closed in 2012. paid it off within 10 years. intrest rate never went above 4.25%
    this worked for me, as my house went up 150% in that 10 years! i now have 100% equity in a house that double in value

  • @1redrubberball
    @1redrubberball 4 года назад +47

    Got a 30 year mortgage in '99, refi'ed to a 15 year loan in 2005, and paid the home off in 2018. No 2nd mortgage, no HELOC, no reverse mortgage, !!!

    • @robertarogers998
      @robertarogers998 4 года назад

      I like this idea. Do you have to get a certain kind of HELOC?

    • @1redrubberball
      @1redrubberball 4 года назад +7

      @@robertarogers998
      If you want to cut the length of your mortgage, timewise, or the effective interest your mortgage is at, and the amount of interest you have to pay over the course of your homeloan duration, JUST DO THIS: Pay your monthly payment with some additional that is directed just to the principal. Now, if you can refi to 15 from 30 and get a significant interest rate reduction simultaneously, that can save you more than the cost of refi, then do it. If you can't save enough from rate reduction to justify it, then just keep on with your additional payments to principal.
      My 30 year loan was at 7% and dropped to 5.5% when I refi'ed. That was worth my doing it. Had there been little or no rate reduction, it would have been impractical to refi and I would have just continued to throw extra money at principal. Hope that is clear.

    • @jacobjohnson9030
      @jacobjohnson9030 3 года назад +4

      @@1redrubberball My interest rate is 2.63% I close tomorrow it's on a 30 year. is that good? I'm 23 and kind of wish I had more guidance through this process. I rushed it a bit but I love the place I'm going to have. I plan to refi as soon as I can to a 15 but I don't know if it's a good idea at this rate.

    • @1redrubberball
      @1redrubberball 3 года назад +4

      @@jacobjohnson9030 Sounds like you are on a good path and that interest rate is very good as well. I was around 51 before I could afford a house, but better late than never. At that interest rate, I wouldn't worry too much about a 15 yr mortgage right now. With the dismal economic forecast we all seem to be facing, just getting thru the next yr or two may prove challenging. If your circumstances allow you to, you can actually pay a little more to the principal each month going forward and shave years off your 30 yr mortgage. That will also reduce the yield on the mortgage to the holder to below that already low rate. Even $100 mo more to principle for several yrs has an amazing effect on how many yrs it can shave off the mortgage term. Good luck!

    • @aftech7268
      @aftech7268 3 года назад +1

      That’s because u were able to pay a bigger monthly payment to pay it off , Some people like to spread it out pay less now on the mortgage and use the saving to reinvest in purchasing other properties or other necessities - what was your nterest rate and the monthly payment on the 30 year and what was the interest rate and monthly payment on your 15 year refinance ?

  • @dorothy2012
    @dorothy2012 6 лет назад +373

    "I want a new kitchen, princess...shut up!" 😂😂😂

    • @tsherman393
      @tsherman393 4 года назад +2

      Lol

    • @blueman9450
      @blueman9450 4 года назад +12

      This is the exact reason why I'm considering it. After this video definitely not!

    • @legony1
      @legony1 3 года назад

      😂😂😂

    • @robinsutton6960
      @robinsutton6960 3 года назад +1

      Thank you so much for this video! I really appreciate, I was referred by Ted, he helped me throughout the whole process with no extra cost. This is my referral as promised
      mx076 on wickr or telegram.

    • @missdesireindependance5194
      @missdesireindependance5194 3 года назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @nilgiridreaming
    @nilgiridreaming Год назад +19

    I 'ate' my house twice: went from owning it to now owing $51k - I am fighting my way out of this self-created issue ... thank God I was born with the optimism gene! All will be well, I am sure. And I hope God just heard me say that! 😅PS: I have a chronic generosity problem! AND I undervalue myself. Darn it... it's taken finding Dave Ramsey in my senior years to be able to admit all that!

  • @isettech
    @isettech 4 года назад +121

    I am old enough to remember my grandparents warning me to never ever pay unsecured debt with secured debt. They rode out the great depression and barely was able to keep the farm. If they had borrowed against it they would have lost it. Loans for seed, fuel, etc for the growing season was all unsecured debt. Paying that with equity would have lost the farm when times became tough. This lesson was well learned. The sales pitch is strong to roll a 17% loan into a 3% loan, but don't do it. The reason the one loan is 17% is because it is an unsecured loan. Ensure you can keep the very basics for life during hard times. 1 HOUSING. Never borrow against it. 2 FOOD. Never bet the farm. 3 INCOME. Never put your income in jeopardy. Many local farmers lost their farms to mega farms. This is how family farms get lost in hard times. They get bought for pennies on the dollar from the banks and creditors that had a secured interest in the property.

    • @tjones2550
      @tjones2550 3 года назад +10

      I appreciate the lesson and the way you explained it!

    • @annwilson3941
      @annwilson3941 2 года назад +10

      This is a great lesson and how fortunate you are to have grandparents that instilled a lifelong wisdom

    • @kingjamesthe8046
      @kingjamesthe8046 2 года назад +1

      Get life insurance policy will cover the equity loan

    • @KarLaLoVe
      @KarLaLoVe Год назад

      💕💕💕🌴Thank you

  • @laughoutmeow
    @laughoutmeow 3 года назад +34

    My dad made multiple millions using home equity loan to buy houses in 2010...pretty smart move if you ask me

    • @kimgraves1438
      @kimgraves1438 3 года назад +6

      My thoughts exactly. They don't tell you that part

    • @justinarnold84
      @justinarnold84 3 года назад +12

      We aren't into the millions but did the same thing. Bought cash, pulled money out, bought more cash. Scaled up quickly, paid down aggressively. Everyone needs multiple tools in their toolbox. Not everyone can live with their parents and never buy anything so they can save 150k to buy a house, gotta take a deep dive and get creative.

  • @stevesanderson8360
    @stevesanderson8360 4 года назад +51

    Every single multi-millionaire/ billionaire who invests primarily in real estate borrows money against the equity against said real estate. It's tax free.

  • @bbfreetube
    @bbfreetube 4 года назад +6

    I took out a home equity loan. I am retired and not able to work. The loan was enough to maintain my home (windows, door, storm doors, countertops (laminate), and various other projects. I am paying off the loan and feel I made a good decision to keep my property value high. I would like to mention that the loan is one fourth of the value of the house. With no prepayment penalty, I can pay back this loan in 5 years. Budgeting and cutting unnecessary expenses also helped. If I should need a loan again I would only consider a personal line of credit for a short term. There are other alternatives to consider.

  • @jorgeortega346
    @jorgeortega346 3 года назад +27

    I don’t know what we would do without your advice Mr. David, You always strike the heart of the issue without the glaze.

    • @mandypdx
      @mandypdx 2 года назад +3

      Have more money??
      I bought a home while I had a student loan and am selling a few years later…for $200k more than I paid. Why is his advise good??

    • @mandypdx
      @mandypdx 2 года назад

      Had a property that appreciated???

  • @GM-xv8nt
    @GM-xv8nt 3 года назад +22

    love that good ol' Appalachian temper!

  • @javiercastillo5261
    @javiercastillo5261 5 лет назад +39

    For a split second I though he was gonna drop the f bomb then said flip 😂

    • @AdamGbl95
      @AdamGbl95 5 лет назад

      I did too. 😂

    • @jerrylisby5376
      @jerrylisby5376 4 года назад +6

      It is really the same thing. It is a replacement word. Just like freaking.

    • @ParadeTheGospel
      @ParadeTheGospel 4 года назад +2

      Same. But it's really the same intent behind it. This isn't the same Dave Ramsey from financial peace University

    • @808Mark
      @808Mark 3 года назад +1

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣me too

    • @ThePeterDislikeShow
      @ThePeterDislikeShow 3 года назад +1

      We all know what he's thinking when he said it anyway.

  • @JOSEALEJANDRORAMIREZ-gj5kb
    @JOSEALEJANDRORAMIREZ-gj5kb 5 лет назад +4

    THANKS BRO FOR THE INFO GODBLESS YOU

  • @heavyd777
    @heavyd777 5 лет назад +3

    We looked at selling our house when the "market was hot" but couldn't find a new house. No less than 3 times we were beat out by "cash buyers". Three different real estate agents told us that some were Chinese investors and some Canadian.
    When the market was down, one guy told us it was a Google executive buying up property just to hold it. We counted around 15 properties he got in my area at dirt cheap prices.
    So, since we were going to have to finance a mortgage anyway, we decided to stay and improve our current home. I can do a lot of the light remodeling myself but will hire out for the larger parts. We will have to borrow some of the equity in order to remodel.
    Our first step was to get out of debt - thanks Dave. We could not have done it without your advice about cash flow.
    Our total payments are lower than a newer home would have been and we expect to have everything, mortgage and HELOC paid off in the next 7 years.

    • @user-fp8xc8lf3f
      @user-fp8xc8lf3f 2 года назад +4

      You wrote this entire paragraph in order to justify to yourself that your HELOC was okay.

  • @ForgeofSouls
    @ForgeofSouls 3 года назад +33

    Can you imagine going out to eat with Dave, when the check comes you hand over your credit card...ooo aaaawkward.

    • @crand20033
      @crand20033 3 года назад +1

      Pull out some cash instead. He thinks that would be painful spending.

    • @TheEllaTB
      @TheEllaTB 3 года назад

      I'd do it just for the reaction 😂

  • @Andrew-ep4kw
    @Andrew-ep4kw 3 года назад +10

    Dave is absolutely right. The equity in your home (the value minus the amount owed, for those of you who never listened to Dave) is NOT A BANK ACCOUNT!!!!! That's part of the way we got burned in 2008. Your house is worth a certain monetary value as a property, but is priceless to you as a home. Don't do anything to jeopardize the second fact.

  • @joshuahardy8738
    @joshuahardy8738 3 года назад +41

    I love Dave and his advice but I semi disagree with this post. I work at a bank and all of our Home equity products are tied to prime with an adjuster (that is set, not variable) or the five year treasury. We cannot just change rates because we want to. I do agree though people use the equity in their homes for stupid stuff. I think if you don’t use it to increase the value of your home then don’t use it.

    • @QuarterKnight01
      @QuarterKnight01 2 года назад +5

      Thanks for the insight! I personally have a HELOC and use it ONLY for investments. The investments ideally should cover the HELOC plus more.

    • @izryiel7094
      @izryiel7094 2 года назад +2

      Or have another plan to return that money after investing?🤷‍♂️

    • @user-be5qg7mr1s
      @user-be5qg7mr1s 2 года назад +1

      There is also a difference between a Heloc and a home equity loan. The layer is fixed interest with fixed payments.

  • @christianh686
    @christianh686 5 лет назад +77

    No Dave. No 7th grade Econ class. That’s why I’m sitting here listening to you.

  • @blues3824
    @blues3824 2 года назад +15

    I remember those home-equity-loan days.
    People used their house as an ATM machine, pocketing the "increase in value money." It usually didn't end well.

  • @benyameenyitzhak1036
    @benyameenyitzhak1036 6 лет назад +50

    Has anyone noticed that his impersonations sound like Clevand from Family Guy?

  • @anniesshenanigans3815
    @anniesshenanigans3815 4 года назад +2

    'financing a steak over 30 years" and this is exactly why I did not get all the fancy upgrades when I had mine built. People thought I was crazy when I said I didn't want to finance granite countertops and tile floors for 30 years.

  • @azpeach5680
    @azpeach5680 2 года назад

    Thank you so much for your knowledge!!

  • @awallacereviews
    @awallacereviews 2 года назад +48

    I watched this when I contemplated getting a HELOC loan. Dave always motivates me to push forward and keep my head down

    • @aaronb4936
      @aaronb4936 2 года назад

      This is exactly what just happened to me haha

    • @shawntariou5037
      @shawntariou5037 2 года назад +3

      OMG I just got off the phone with a lender and came straight to Dave's videos to find what he says about a HELOC so when they email me I'm telling them never mind lol. It should be common sense that you're not getting rid of the debt just moving it around but I just needed to hear him say it lol

    • @saidtheblueknight
      @saidtheblueknight Год назад +12

      Yup, keep your head down, work work work till you're an 80 year old millionaire. Then you can go have fun with your millions. Yup, solid advice. Meanwhile I'm enjoying life today with my kids, cars and toys while you work work work like a busy bee just so you can say you're a millionaire while rolling around in a wheelchair in a retirement home.

    • @awallacereviews
      @awallacereviews Год назад

      @@saidtheblueknight you got issues dude lol

    • @mrruiz1
      @mrruiz1 Год назад

      @@awallacereviews he's right. Ramsey is for people so deep in debt they're afraid to breathe and maybe one day payoff debt then die.

  • @troyeager8877
    @troyeager8877 4 года назад +75

    Thank you for advice. I was considering a partial home equity loan for siding, windows and gutters. But I only have 5 years left and I will be debt free at 53 or 54. I guess I'll find a better way.

    • @Vera-dg3hf
      @Vera-dg3hf 4 года назад +10

      uber? cleaning dishes somewhere? part-time job? taking care of someone's dog or kid?

  • @arodriguez9636
    @arodriguez9636 5 лет назад +76

    I got a credit line of 60,000 and the monthly payment was around 295..I used the money to built a guest room and i rented it aut for 875 and the money from the rent was used to pay the credit line debt..now its paid off
    ....good moved....

    • @calebolynick6685
      @calebolynick6685 5 лет назад +4

      As Dave has said before. My grandmother is 90 and smokes like a chimney. Does that mean smoking isn't going to kill me early? You had a good plan. Im in the building industry myself. But a better plan wouldve been to have planned and saved for the build. But anyways nicely done!

    • @Dovakeen79
      @Dovakeen79 5 лет назад +18

      Yea it's easy for him to throw out heloc is bad he is sitting on millions.

    • @Saidoromo2024
      @Saidoromo2024 5 лет назад +1

      Awesome 👍😂

    • @natehardy3849
      @natehardy3849 5 лет назад

      How long are the terms on that credit line

    • @I_like_turtles_67
      @I_like_turtles_67 5 лет назад +3

      At least you didn't buy a motor home or new car with the money.

  • @aaronwelch8156
    @aaronwelch8156 5 лет назад +39

    Anybody can sell a house by themselves (Common sense required). He basically just called me "stupid". My stupidity allowed me to keep 3%+ off the sale of my home.

    • @greenearthblueskies8556
      @greenearthblueskies8556 4 года назад

      👍🏽

    • @ilirlako5646
      @ilirlako5646 4 года назад +4

      He also said that people hire someone for the taxes, to fix a car etc. Those are also things a lot of people do by themselves. It was a pretty condescending comment from DR.

    • @66wow99
      @66wow99 4 года назад +5

      I will maintain what I've always been saying. Ramsey's a fraud.

  • @reneeschultz7525
    @reneeschultz7525 6 лет назад +4

    Truth right here. As a Realtor, when I see people keep refinancing or home equity loans, it usually isn't long until the homeowners are in a heap of trouble. Thank you for your recommendation of Well seasoned Realtors who sell full time !

  • @gilgonzalez1507
    @gilgonzalez1507 5 лет назад +14

    30 years old, me and the wife close on a house in the coming up week. I've been watching so many of your videos. Only debt we currently have is her car payment, which has about 2 years left. Gonna get this house paid off ASAP. Thank you for all your advice Dave.

    • @Idiotsincarshere
      @Idiotsincarshere 4 года назад +4

      Congrats! I'm 38 and own more than 1/2 our home already.

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart 3 года назад +3

      @@Idiotsincarshere I'm 47 and own only 10% of ours. But, I plan to use the equity to make a large down payment on a much downsized home.

    • @Idiotsincarshere
      @Idiotsincarshere 3 года назад +3

      @@kbanghart That should ensure a much lower mortgage payment !

    • @kbanghart
      @kbanghart 3 года назад +1

      @@Idiotsincarshere yes, I can't wait. Right now 38% of my take home goes to my mortgage! But hope to get it down to 20% or maybe even 10

    • @mariaorozco104
      @mariaorozco104 2 года назад +1

      @@kbanghart So did you buy a new home with the home equipment ? Did you rent the house ? Just curious . im planning doing the same thing like you

  • @BlueFlyer83
    @BlueFlyer83 6 лет назад +20

    Never forget the saying, "a fool and his money are soon parted."

  • @margaretcooper797
    @margaretcooper797 4 года назад +8

    Thanks Dave, I am 71 and was considering getting equity release on my house now I have decided not to do it .

  • @radix3d
    @radix3d 2 года назад +4

    He doesn't know how HELOCs work. My HELOC isn't "callable". Only if I default on the loan can they require me to pay back in a lump sum. My rate is not whatever the "banker's whim", it's based on the Wall Street Journal's prime rate. The HELOC allows you to buy income producing assets, not to "finance a steak over 30 years".

  • @dotsmada2855
    @dotsmada2855 Год назад +3

    Title of video is about a HELOC but your whole video just talks about home equity loans. There is a difference.

  • @rubenski2010
    @rubenski2010 Год назад

    I needed this. Thank you on your information on HELOC.

  • @caisme
    @caisme 2 года назад

    Thanks Dave, glad to hear your point

  • @karenmiranda7587
    @karenmiranda7587 3 года назад +5

    OMG! I was looking for some real estate information and came across this awesome rant, I can’t stop laughing 😆.... But it’s the truth!

  • @mkshffr4936
    @mkshffr4936 4 года назад +3

    We have a small fixed rate home equity line that is actually at a slightly lower interest rate than our main mortgage but we are working at paying it off first at which point the money earmarked for that payoff will be applied to the mortgage.
    Should be clear of the HELOC in a few months and hope to have the house totally paid in about 6 years so I can retire.

  • @Northstar2000
    @Northstar2000 5 лет назад +10

    Hahah another perfect rant, somehow i love this guy, he has a way of just saying it how he feels, even though sometimes I disagree

  • @humbertothebeliever2443
    @humbertothebeliever2443 3 года назад

    LOL...He reminded me of the Drill Instructor yelling at private Piles in the movie Full Metal Jacket.

  • @jackburton6998
    @jackburton6998 6 лет назад +405

    If you sell your house in this white hot market and make some money, don't you have to go find another place to live? If I had more than one house then yes I would sell one and make some money. But I only have one...

    • @jeremyduke4938
      @jeremyduke4938 6 лет назад +44

      Patrick Bateman rent until the market crashes or you can find a deal

    • @MiguelGomez956Rep
      @MiguelGomez956Rep 6 лет назад +3

      Cass on point 👍🏽

    • @jackburton6998
      @jackburton6998 6 лет назад +21

      Ok well im "thinking" of selling my house... Now what? I don't have another one.

    • @MiguelGomez956Rep
      @MiguelGomez956Rep 6 лет назад +6

      Patrick Bateman you should rent until market goes down again... if you listen to Dave Ramsey regularly you would understand why renting is not always bad in a situation like this... when it makes sense to buy again you buy again... usually people aren’t thinking of selling their house for no reason... usually is because they just want something different or thinking of a new job somewhere else but just thinking of selling for no reason is not what he means

    • @wmurray003
      @wmurray003 6 лет назад +11

      Hey Pat, find a "fixer upper" ...then pocket the extra cash. You'll also end up with more equity in the new property if you do this.

  • @thebestclassicalmusic
    @thebestclassicalmusic 5 лет назад +83

    I love the HELOC, it is the best thing ever if used correctly. Just like a plane or a car is. They are scary and terrible if you drive or fly irresponsibly. If you use a HELOC irresponsible--BAD idea. Use it correctly, it is a massive benefit. The key is responsibility--be responsible.

    • @chriswesly871
      @chriswesly871 4 года назад +2

      exactly! I learned this the hard way. I just contacted maliandebt to see my options

    • @Asiamisiami
      @Asiamisiami 4 года назад +3

      absolutely!

    • @ParadeTheGospel
      @ParadeTheGospel 4 года назад +5

      I just heard about it today. This stuff to me is confusing but I'm trying to look into it.

    • @hengineer
      @hengineer 4 года назад +11

      Daves main listeners don't have discipline.

    • @arnisdaddy7905
      @arnisdaddy7905 4 года назад +19

      The key to using a HELOC "responsibly" is KNOWLEDGE! Remember that Dave Ramsey's business caters to financially ignorant people who have gotten themselves into massive debt and want SOMEONE ELSE to get them out of debt. People like you who have taught themselves to understand financial tools and investments will rarely, if ever agree to what Ramsey teaches. He caters to people who are still learning "Baby Steps!"

  • @koreyb99
    @koreyb99 Год назад +2

    Imagine you took his advice in 2018! Lol, you missed out on double appreciation of your house and locking in a basement bottom rate.

  • @chris092283
    @chris092283 Год назад +2

    I was thinking about taking out a home equity loan and I'm glad to say you changed my mind good sir

  • @JD-so1zv
    @JD-so1zv 2 года назад +16

    had I sold my house 2018, I would’ve lost out on $130k in equity…. I think I’ll keep it and rent it out forever

  • @AMindInOverdrive
    @AMindInOverdrive 5 лет назад +67

    Never buy on the high. I did it, regret it, lost everything - lesson learned

    • @evm7272
      @evm7272 4 года назад +3

      This 👍👍

    • @jakevillaret
      @jakevillaret 4 года назад +15

      Except you don’t know when the market is at the top...until you know. It’s always a risk.

    • @TobyCostaRica
      @TobyCostaRica 3 года назад +8

      Did you buy in 2007-2008?
      In 2007, right out of college a coworker, who also did loans, said she can get me into a house with zero down. Im like HOW? I make 45k a year.......a few years later we know how.

    • @knucleballfreedom
      @knucleballfreedom 3 года назад +1

      Mark...me too in 08-10

    • @AMindInOverdrive
      @AMindInOverdrive 3 года назад +4

      @@jakevillaret Yeah. I bought while it had gone up quite a bit and was still going up...that's what I mean by "on the high';
      What goes up must come down...and down it came. Bought a house in 2006-2007. 2008 Recession hit and I lost my job, my house, unemployed (apart from some odd jobs) for 4years...
      For now I will save...if the market tanks again, THEN I will buy, if I can

  • @JohnDickDingleJR.
    @JohnDickDingleJR. 3 года назад +3

    Hey Dave, I always appreciate the condescending advice. Thank you.

  • @colewildenhus7207
    @colewildenhus7207 3 года назад +3

    HELOCs are generally tied to Prime or Libor plus a fixed margin.

  • @CDCentral
    @CDCentral 2 года назад +26

    He doesn’t want you to take out heloc. He wants you to sell with his realtor list so Dave Ramsey can get a portion from your home sale.

    • @kingmiller1982
      @kingmiller1982 Год назад +5

      Exactly

    • @CDCentral
      @CDCentral Год назад +6

      @@comfy_rwds the proof is his video promoting you to NOT use a HELOC!
      And his other vids promoting realtors associated with him. He gets a cut from the commission they get.
      It's obvious.

  • @Bluedog777
    @Bluedog777 2 года назад

    Best advice! Thank you Dave

  • @Vetionarian
    @Vetionarian Год назад +2

    Sell right now? in 2018? This did not age well at all. Dave I bought in 2018 and my home is worth double now in 2022. You were so wrong.

  • @The1PhillyPhil
    @The1PhillyPhil 3 года назад +30

    5:00 I lost it when he says you financed a steak dinner over 30 years lol

  • @FreeR0C
    @FreeR0C 5 лет назад +3

    Hey Dave, I am completely aware amortized interest on a mortgage is the worst possible interest you can sign for. You mentioned when you use a LOC to move your debt to another LOC is stupid because your simply moving it. My question is would it still be beneficial to paying off your mortgage faster to pay off your mortgage with a non-amortized LOC so you can pay less interest in the long haul?

  • @tonyj8947
    @tonyj8947 5 лет назад +2

    In 2007-2008 online banks were giving 7% interest rate on a basic checking account.

  • @arthouseabb
    @arthouseabb 5 лет назад +1

    Well I saw the vid title and came here to get advice on the best type of HELOC to get. Unfortunately its been some time since i read Dave's book, so i forgot all about - eh- the borrowing part, lol. Apparently no HELOC is the best type. I wanted to build a tiny house in my backyard and rent it out. This video just popped my idea bubble and brought me back to reality, real quick. I guess i need to pay off the house I have first.

  • @One-Crazy-Cat
    @One-Crazy-Cat 4 года назад +11

    Not only am I old enough to remember I had the foreclosure and bankruptcy scars to prove it happened.

  • @justyang8194
    @justyang8194 4 года назад +3

    "You didn't pay off your credit card debt..you moved it!"..😂😂😂

  • @hopehope9146
    @hopehope9146 3 года назад

    Thank you Dave !

  • @sachdiawaz3093
    @sachdiawaz3093 4 года назад

    great advice. Thank you

    • @neenusgabriel454
      @neenusgabriel454 4 года назад

      This was terrible advice if you're responsible and know how to manage your finances a HELOC is the best and cheapest way to use the bank's money for your own personal financial gain I personally borrowed from my HELOC and started a business that's paying my mortgage today.

  • @seymourcake752
    @seymourcake752 6 лет назад +7

    Dave, Thank you for your knowledge and warnings.

    • @smiththrs03
      @smiththrs03 2 года назад

      I hope you sold your house in 2018 ahhahaha

  • @ryanward9625
    @ryanward9625 4 года назад +87

    Until I saw the upload date for this video I almost thought it was made in 2009. The remedy for Dave's entire rant is to shop around. There are, in fact, banks that will give you a HELOC or home equity loan with $0 closing costs, no call options, and fixed interest rates that are set by the 10 year treasury bonds. If you borrow equity from your house to fund a cash flowing investment property, the only downside to that is you can't deduct the interest on your tax return. However, this downside is usually offset by the depreciation deduction so it is minimal. The fact is that although house prices are like a rolling hill, sometimes down and sometimes up, rental income trends upward steadily. Therefore, it is NEVER a bad time to invest long term in rental properties, as long as they are cash flowing.

    • @adrianb6942
      @adrianb6942 3 года назад +1

      Thank you, that make so much sense

    • @jordansaipaia7874
      @jordansaipaia7874 2 года назад +1

      This is valuable information.

    • @ChristopherArmstrong1
      @ChristopherArmstrong1 2 года назад +2

      What banks are you referring to?

    • @TopVillain
      @TopVillain 2 года назад +4

      Most banks do have call options in the fine print. So be careful

    • @Xmj202
      @Xmj202 2 года назад +1

      @@TopVillain You are correct sir. IMO if you find a good deal..and are financial disciplined and find a cash flowing real estate investment..instead of a steak a heloc coud be a good option

  • @Jarhead6
    @Jarhead6 5 лет назад +1

    thank you Sir!

  • @chrissy1448
    @chrissy1448 3 года назад +2

    I love the funny voices lol hilarious!!!

  • @nehemiasvision
    @nehemiasvision 6 лет назад +38

    He didn't talk about HELOC, he talked about Home equity LOAN. and i agree, is stupid as it can be.

    • @emmabbyreborns341
      @emmabbyreborns341 3 года назад +8

      Exactly. Title is misleading.

    • @adrianb6942
      @adrianb6942 3 года назад +3

      Whats the difference between HELOC and home equity loan?

    • @sheilawarner9550
      @sheilawarner9550 3 года назад +3

      Same thing

    • @schnot12
      @schnot12 3 года назад +1

      That's what I was thinking.

  • @Asiamisiami
    @Asiamisiami 4 года назад +10

    You're right, HELOC tends to be better in terms of the numbers. Either is a great strategy though. Once you get to that point, it's time to start looking into non-traditional financing (private money, business credit cards, etc).

    • @williambella6293
      @williambella6293 4 года назад +4

      that's what I am doing. But, instead of using the entire amount of my heloc, I am only using 20% of the property that I am purchasing and I am taking out the down payment out of my heloc and apply for a new investment loan. It works better on interest and not risking your house for the total amount.

    • @chriswesly871
      @chriswesly871 4 года назад +1

      @@williambella6293 thank you so much for the information, I have some more questions please

    • @MrPedajack
      @MrPedajack Год назад

      @@williambella6293 How can I connect with you I would like to pick your brain about a couple of things

  • @carmenperez4684
    @carmenperez4684 27 дней назад

    I Love how you explain things to people that have not clue like me. Lol

  • @krss1130
    @krss1130 2 года назад +1

    I totally agree. Home equity is a tricky one. It's not really your money! It's your money if you sell your house. Then you get your home equity, whatever the amount of it. But you don't have a house anymore! So you have to buy another house! Then you use your home equity as down payment. It's safe to not touch your home equity. Just let it grow until you pay off your house.

  • @yovanabarreto6082
    @yovanabarreto6082 4 года назад +4

    Thank you for the advice, it all makes sense✌🏼

  • @dfrye2698
    @dfrye2698 4 года назад +25

    Notice he read the statement that people are considering an equity line of credit, then went on to talk about an equity loan.

  • @00Noontide
    @00Noontide 4 года назад

    Thanks Dave!

  • @montana727
    @montana727 3 года назад +2

    This video is not titled correctly, it should be Dave Ramsey's rant on home equity loans. Home equity lines of credit are different than what he's talking about.

  • @michelegd2938
    @michelegd2938 5 лет назад +17

    Thanks Dave! Always rewarding to be ranted out by you! Keeps my brain in check.
    Just cause I'm a Grami now doesn't mean life is adorable, fussy and lovable like me! haaa:)
    $20,000 to go and the house is paid off!!! Could of used your realism 15yrs back for some stupid. You Rock! LoveXO

    • @spawn11
      @spawn11 Год назад +1

      congrats for me 35K to go and am getting impatient lol

  • @joypeaceandhappiness1501
    @joypeaceandhappiness1501 2 года назад +3

    my bank calls me weekly trying to get me to take out a home equity loan and I decline everytime...Word of advice the bank will not call you out of the blue to simply do you a favor

  • @appleiphone69
    @appleiphone69 5 лет назад

    It depends on the price level of the house. In my neighborhood homes go for between 825,000 and 1.1 million. A lot of homes sit for weeks. I’m near one of those big cities hot markets. The home in the 500k sell fast.

  • @appalachhaun_adventures
    @appalachhaun_adventures 5 месяцев назад +2

    I like how he said to sell while the market is high, but never mentioned you’ll have to PAY MORE for your new house that has an inflated price….😂 🤷🏻‍♂️

    • @dude4173
      @dude4173 3 месяца назад

      He just wants to make money off the transaction of you selling

  • @vaderwashere365
    @vaderwashere365 4 года назад +7

    Bank of America does not have any call language in their standard HELOC. They also set the interest rate percentage when you open your HELOC, it isn't variable. You don't have to use your HELOC at all, you can just have it opened and have a zero balance. We opened a $250K HELOC to increase our credit score and have always kept it at a zero balance. Just opening the HELOC increased each of our credit scores by 30 points. We don't plan to ever use it. However, increasing our credit scores and locking in a 4% HELOC interest rate for free, hasn't stopped us from being millionaires. Just be responsible people and your income will make you a millionaire. If you are irresponsible, then you shouldn't open a HELOC or a credit card, because you have no self control. You can basically do whatever you want with self control... it is far better than what Dave preaches, but his average listener is irresponsible and can't control themselves.

  • @DEM78976
    @DEM78976 6 лет назад +4

    The rates on most helocs are driven by prime plus a given margin that is stated at time of application and also in your closing paper work where the margin is the constant and the prime rate can fluctuate based on wether or not the Fed increases rates.

    • @jeremyduke4938
      @jeremyduke4938 6 лет назад +4

      David Mateo Yup. I have mine at prime plus .75%. I only use it to pay cash on the spot for a good deal on a rental property and then immediately pay it off with cash I have tied up in other investments. Definitely not buying steaks with it... my dad taught me this and he's a multi millionaire...

    • @waynemiller6070
      @waynemiller6070 3 года назад

      Thank you for correcting the "guru". Feel free to address any of the other MANY misrepresentations touted in the rant.

  • @cammyfloyd123
    @cammyfloyd123 6 месяцев назад +1

    Agree with most here but if you can sell your own house do it. Real estate is a scam like travel agents. If can’t plan your own trip you shouldn’t be traveling.

  • @theresavelasco6391
    @theresavelasco6391 2 года назад

    "Stupid on steroids!!" Lol, my new favorite saying........Love you and your show, Dave....I've learned so much!

  • @rosa121070
    @rosa121070 4 года назад +7

    I was one of the blessed people that was able to sell my house in 2009 and made a profit and bought my new home foreclosed... best thing That ever happened to me... thinking of selling again and get the max!

    • @j.l.salayao8055
      @j.l.salayao8055 3 года назад +1

      And my family and i are the blessed ones who bought low in 2009 for a brand new house we watch built from the ground up for only $180k at that time. House is now worth $350k to $385k...cheers🍺🙂.

    • @rosa121070
      @rosa121070 3 года назад +1

      @@j.l.salayao8055 dont think we will see that again in our lifetime.. that was a Blessing... glad to know ur family was able to do that.. it was a sad time for all the ones that lost their properties..

  • @benjaminelsbury683
    @benjaminelsbury683 2 года назад +6

    Keep in mind when you sell your house at a high amount your next house will cost you a premium as well. It’s a wash. Enjoy

    • @dadnovak9099
      @dadnovak9099 2 года назад

      Amen. Oh cool I sold my house and made $200k!… which is just going to go to the next overpriced house

    • @SeanTheRightWay
      @SeanTheRightWay 2 года назад

      Unless you move to a more affordable area and maintain the same income.

  • @Joelotto124
    @Joelotto124 5 лет назад +1

    Thank you good information i did not know that they could just ask for there money .

  • @richg5994
    @richg5994 5 лет назад +2

    Do you have an opinion about using a heloc to to pay down a mortgage and then depositing your income into the heloc to withdraw from like a checking account for bills or expense to take advantage of the average daily interest rate? Is this a viable way to pay down a mortgage quicker?

  • @dylangoveia5971
    @dylangoveia5971 6 лет назад +7

    @daveramsey when you sell your house in a high market, should you rent until the market goes down? If you sell and buy in a high market are you gaining anything?

    • @arnisdaddy7905
      @arnisdaddy7905 4 года назад +1

      It really depends on the circumstance! What value is there when you sell your home "High" but then have to go pay a "High" rent to someone else. Remember that rent payments are just someone else's Mortgage payments that the renters are making while the owner gets the equity. If you are going to sell your house "High" then the solution is to buy a Duplex, Triplex, etc and let the renters of the other apartments pay the Mortgage as their rent. Then later, you can rent out the entire Duplex/Triplex, and go buy yourself a home on the "Low."

  • @goalieguy55
    @goalieguy55 6 лет назад +63

    if the prices are the highest to sell your home then doesn't that mean you will be paying more to buy another at the inflated rate? i don't see the incentive if your just swapping the high point for your current home for the high point of another house.

    • @jerrylisby5376
      @jerrylisby5376 5 лет назад +4

      goalieguy55 well you might time it right by selling then rent short term until crash then buy.

    • @xxZerosumxx
      @xxZerosumxx 5 лет назад +13

      @@jerrylisby5376 A crash can take years. Before 08,when was the last housing crash?

    • @DatlTAE
      @DatlTAE 5 лет назад

      Build

    • @tonyj8947
      @tonyj8947 5 лет назад +8

      You are right. It pays to sell if you downgrade or move to an area where housing is significantly cheaper than your current location.

    • @battlestar1788
      @battlestar1788 5 лет назад +2

      TeamDATL Tae I was told building will be more expensive ?

  • @sscott504
    @sscott504 5 лет назад +2

    Dave!!! the language!!!😂😂😂

  • @rickeylauderdale74
    @rickeylauderdale74 2 года назад

    How do you really feel about a HELOC Dave😂😂😂😂
    He has me cracking up laughing! This is one of his most animated BRUTALLY HONEST shorts! Love it🙏🏼😂

  • @user-kj1rg4gp9y
    @user-kj1rg4gp9y 5 лет назад +100

    This is my third home purchase with the equity line of credit. I don't know what are you talking about. The tenants paying for everything and I get the return cash.

    • @Rensoku611
      @Rensoku611 5 лет назад +9

      Hes saying that heloc is a callable loan

    • @shaneweddle4197
      @shaneweddle4197 4 года назад +37

      Lohe221 a HELOC isn’t a loan it’s a line of credit. There’s a difference. If you’re smart this works. Dave isn’t very smart in general. I watched a video where he told someone to payoff a 0% loan as quick as possible when they have a mortgage!!! Dumb.

    • @joecoolioness6399
      @joecoolioness6399 4 года назад +13

      @@shaneweddle4197 Dave says that psychologically it is better to pay off the small debts first, so you feel like you are accomplishing something. Or did you not actually understand what he advocates?

    • @xDustinLeeFxx
      @xDustinLeeFxx 4 года назад +3

      This is exactly what I am preparing to do.

    • @jefferyholt6550
      @jefferyholt6550 4 года назад +2

      Exactly! i ddidnt know this until i saw Daves video

  • @GetRichEducation
    @GetRichEducation 6 лет назад +17

    The rate of return from home equity has been, and always will be zero. (Yes, really.)
    But borrowing against your home incurs an interest rate expense. If you can beat that interest rate expense (invest for cash flow with arbitrage), you're dollars ahead. Risk vs. reward.
    I think it's wise to have a HELOC for emergencies. Drawing against that HELOC is up to you.

  • @rlopez013
    @rlopez013 Год назад +1

    fast forward to Aug 2022 and housing is even more expensive. Props to you all that waited.

  • @mikebrown9521
    @mikebrown9521 2 года назад +1

    Dave is in rare form! I love it!

  • @user-gs9dx1dg9n
    @user-gs9dx1dg9n 6 лет назад +53

    A credit card add was before this video those companies are wasting money

    • @j.a.6866
      @j.a.6866 6 лет назад +1

      Henry lever action - Love your name... great rifles.

    • @joycasse8353
      @joycasse8353 6 лет назад

      Lolllll

    • @Vera-dg3hf
      @Vera-dg3hf 4 года назад

      LET THEM BURN