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Kiara had an eventful but surprisingly peaceful moment with US immigration staff. She had to explain why her companions (staff + talents) were traveling separately. How would you even answer that?
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She has to stay undercover because she's... Under COVER.... get it
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Nice one 😂
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meanwhile, kronii was interrogated like she was some kind of spy lmao
Immigration is all about how lucky you are with your officers lmao
It's kinda Kronii to take the short end of the stick in every situation.
It seems it's a side effect to be able to control time.
Kiara actually underwent the same thing first a couple of years ago iirc, which combined with Kronii's case tells me they finally wised up to the difficulties of getting asked by the TSA about their occupation, and has now devised countermeasures for it.
What can you do, Kronii is sus
@@StrikeNoir105E seems a little irresponseble to not have guidelines for that in place already when they decided to go international. though i guess that's also what myth might have been there for to feel out what issues might arise with having talents outside of JP that needed to travel all around, and what troubles might come with in this chase the TSA
She should just be honest and say "People can be weird, and I have stalkers.".
That, combined with the fact walking around with her coworkers would be even more likely to get unwanted attention.
She only has them because she deserves it.
She literally was attacked by her stalker a few months ago
My assumption is the Immigration lady was assuming she was just a singer or actor, and the risk of them being recognized in public was about people thinking they have alot of money or would be good targets for a kidnapping, while the risk with VTubers and idols is a bit different
Given that one VTuber that got freakin' trafficked, yeah, it's a "bit different"...
@@shinigamimiroku3723WHAT
@@K3Vz0 Yeah, I think it was a few months ago I saw some videos about it. Forget who it was exactly; pretty sure it was an indie rather than a corpo, but it goes to show just how important privacy must be maintained and how dangerous it is to have your identity spread around the Internet.
@@shinigamimiroku3723you mean the one that got kidnapped in china? I heard of a vtuber which it happened. Suddenly went silent for 6 months until the Chinese police found them and said they “looked like a missing person”
@@ZippyVtuber I think that's what it was, yeah.
And keeping the other talents identities hidden by not being with members whose identities are more public
I dunno. Kiara is probably the most famous of Myth *shrug shoulders*
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE toss up between her and Calli
@@SWIFTO_SCYTHE thats exactly what they are talking about. by Kiara not travelling directly with other members of HoloEN, people that know Kiara IRL apprearance wont be able to get to know the Appearance of the others by association,
I never thought about that. If, for example, you spotted Kiara in the wild talking to another girl covered in tentacles you could probably tell who that is easily
@@omgitshim Yeah, thats clearly Marine living her best life
I love kiara's new model update.
The super quick and subtle transition into and out of angry eyebrows when she gets all fake intense saying "a cool ass american visa in there!" is so cute.
That outro is still cute.
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Secret agent birb
Even a safe city could harbor unsavory individuals. Or if it didn't, if any sort of word got out -- that shit goes around fast, and someone from a nearby city might try some funny business. Much better safe than sorry.
Most of us know irl chicken soo if group up together we probably can guess who are the other
That TSA officer probably understands you attract more flies with honey than with vinegar. She was clearly trying to convince Kiara she was nice so that she would reveal the other talents' hidden power.
Classic TSA method to identify which potential VTubers are a flight risk
Well, clearly the flight risks are Kiara, Lui, Nerissa, Mumei, Subaru and (formerly) Coco. Most of the rest of Hololive aren't flying creatures.
(Reine is a peahen, which are flightless. Gura, La+, Biboo can achieve ballistic flight via yeeting, but this risk is much lower.)
@@blackjacktrial gura, la+ and biboo reaching ballistic flight via yeeting is low, but never zero
Kiara being a charmer as usual
I'm still wondering how you got that Pico park-esque outro.
That lady would definitely change her mind if she saw the concert queues wrapping around several city blocks lmao
TSA interviews are like going on a tug of war, there's a lot of balancing. You don't want to give them too much info while being clear enough on your actual purpose. I think the lady would have been fine if Kiara just said "our seating was assigned away from us when we bought the tickets".
I'm starting to wonder if they're going to need handlers for these performances in America
I'm honestly concerned about the fact that they're by themselves or that because some of the girls *could* be recognized might compromise the privacy of others
Please never change the ending 🙏
@@skum73 til my dying breath 👌
Most of them struggle, thats suspicious and then they will definitely be interrogated 😂
And there’s the Sui, who easily passed the immigration.
kiara's orange hair is too eye catching.. makes sense they go separately
yes tsa, somehow they manage to recruit people worst than mall security
it's a reason it's called "safety theatre"
TSA doesn't interview you and look at your documents. She was talking to CBP.
This isn’t the best example, Kiaras saying she was being quite nice
A year or two before Covid happened, I traveled to Europe from the US. No problems getting through TSA. Bags were scanned and everything.
A bit later, I was leaving one European country to fly to another and the lady at the scanner started hassling me, asking if I had a knife and pulling out things of my bag like a 1/4" headphone adapter and asking me what it does. I'm absolutely bewildered, because the things she's pulling out are clearly not knives. After what felt like 20 minutes, she pulled something out of my bag like "Aha!"
Turns out a pocket knife that I thought I had lost years ago was buried in that bag. I literally got past TSA with a knife in a carry-on bag. God knows what the hell else they've been letting in and out of the country.
@@gampie13the term is security theater.
As another commenter pointed out, customs and border protection processes incoming visitors and returning residents, not TSA. TSA is only for terminal screening and security.
Aren't we talking about New York here? The officer said its a safe city? Hmm?
As, _the_ NYC? The same city whose entire retail chain and public transportation are on the brink of complete breakdown?
This ain't the 80s anymore. NYC has one of the lowest crime rates in the country.
This ain't the 80s anymore. NY state as a whole has some of the lowest crime rates in the country
@@icyrazorgood point. I assume most of the crimes are connected to whatever bananas situation is happening with the mayor's office right now
@@funghiman8492there are a lot of sensationalist videos going around that seriously exaggerate how bad things are. The city is safer or on par with any other large metro area.
Also, specially Kiara that was assaulted not too long ago, so yeah. I suppose normal people don't know about how parasocial other people could get.
WTF?
Wait she was? That's nuts, hope she didn't get hurt.
@@RhysHill-ur8lqiirc her PL self went to comiket recently and an old stalker managed to find her and grab her
@TheXXIJackpot I mean "technically" she wasn't. It was "someone else". I totally get the sentiment behind pointing that out, but I think she's trying to keep that separate from "this world". I don't think just as a "I'm a perfect idol" thing, but for her own sake as well
WHAT?!
as kirara is walking away
Lady: have a nice proformance Kirara.
Kirara O_O that little shit.
0:14 I've had to do the visa application process for a U.S. visa 3 times in my life. It's a long process but at the end, the very last stage is a 1-on-1 interview where you are asked questions and are expected to have some documentation to back things up. All 3 times I had a bag thing for documents with everything they could possibly ask for and all 3 times they asked me for nothing. Lol.
I mean she is KNOWN to shine like a phoenix MORE than the others so her RADIANCE would allow people to make a connection...
Also I'm sure it is curious as hell to any TSA agent when someone tells you they are so famous they cant even travel with other people and risk getting recognized but also not famous that they get recognized, however they are also so famous that simply being around others would make people crazy with speculation while also not being so famous they can simultaneously walk alone with no issues.
Hate to say it but better too safe than not safe enough. Especially in the US (not that my own country of Canada is perfect either).
Canada's a lot better, at least! IIRC, on the list of safest countries in the world, Canada is in the top ten -- may even be top five? While the U.S. is like, number 59 or 60 or something, lol.
Agreed. Im in Canada and I love Kronii of course, so if i was in an airport and saw a Japanese Canadian and that voice came out of her mouth? Then a short stacked hottie answered her in a Australian accent? Instant recognition.
@@CartoonHangout Excellent point. You can look up what happened to a visiting Japanese tourist in Vancouver and it was not good. However the small town I live in is perfectly safe.
@@Wyrdwad to be fair, it really depends on locations. There are small towns and places in the US where a small crime might happen once in a blue moon-something like a theft or a fight breaking out, meanwhile you got neighborhoods in certain cities where hearing a gunshot is basically a common occurrence.
I imagine Canada is similar just not as extreme. Tons of remote small places up there, which is probably super safe like down here, but certain cities might have worse problems. Though again, not as extreme as some of the US cities are.
@@wildwesleywest That would make sense, yeah. And I know what you're talking about, as I'm American myself.
The thing is, though, I currently live in Japan. Specifically, in Tokyo. And like, especially considering how absurdly high the population density is here, I'm not kidding when I say that there is practically ZERO crime. Like, I've never felt so safe in my life. And that's literally anywhere in Tokyo, from the less populous suburbs to Shibuya Scramble. If anything, I hear crime is actually a bit MORE common in the tiny, isolated towns and villages in Japan than it is in the big cities, since it's easier to get away with things where there are fewer people and fewer police. Most of the violent crimes you hear about on the news are from rural areas, in fact, or at least are perpetrated by residents of rural areas.
It's kind of fascinating, from a sociological standpoint!
But my point in all this is, while it would make sense for Canada to be just like the U.S. as far as crime statistics go, considering its relative position on the list of the world's safest countries (I seriously think it was just under Japan -- which was either #2 or #3 on the list, BTW!), I'm honestly not sure that would be the case. I suspect it may be more like Japan, where there just really isn't much violent crime to speak of.
That's what I'd like to believe, anyway!
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Im still wondering: as a company, did they seriously don’t have yet a protocol or instructions for this kind of thing? You know like telling all the girls specifically the overseas members “say this and this and prepare this and this documents so they don’t interrogate you”Like apparently most of the girls still have problems trying to explain their jobs and their motives at the airport xd
While I don't think it as much of a problem as Hololive worries about, if like 10 of them were on a flight together, it would definitely become an issue.
Her especially I'm sure is careful about wanting people to know where she is but at the same time, if you who she really is, it may not be that hard to connect the dots. She certainly doesn't want another incident to happen to her though
"its a Hannah Montana situation" 😂
She should look up idol culture and i hope it would be enough
Chunibyo wwwwww
Said the person who got recognized while eating on the street, very incognito 😂
It'a not for her.. it's the other member's incognito.. imagine seeing "not-kiara", and "definitely-not-calli" walk together with a bunch of random girls..
Ever notice her mouth is constantly open even when she’s not talking
Face tracking issues. It happens
When she said "America Visa... YEAH" she sounded a little like Ririka.
even as an American immigration can be such a pain getting back into the country. Literally just depends on who the immigration officer is.
we are the weird people
if she's talking about NYC and the concert there, the TSA lady calling it a "safe city" is just lying through her teeth xD
so when is the next face cam stream?
i don't know why kiara keep spilling so much extra information that's inevitably going to lead to more questioning. You're going to through an airport not chit chating in a social event. Just saying you're doing audio engineering work for a media company. People usually stop at that. It's like she wants to be expose by keep yapping, lol.
Some people just speak a lot more than necessary when nervous
Kiara is an endearing yappa what can we say lol.
One lie leads to ten more, which leads to her not being admitted through TSA. It's better to tell the truth, just as little as possible.
Probably afraid to outright lie. A lie can get you into way more trouble, and US immigration is already intimidating for most non-Americans.
America is not remotely safe😂😂
Especially not the cities, and especially not NYC, granted there are much worse but still
@@drift180xI mean the World Population Review’s 2024 report has 5 US cities in the top 20 safest cities in the world including New York.
It’s less safe then Tokyo sure but that’s a pretty insane bar to compare to.
@@unsapient2197 "safe" is only what gets reported
@@imo098765 you say that like the news isn’t a barrage of outrage at every single case of race based police brutality.
It is precisely because there is *so much* reporting that the US seems more unsafe then it actually is
@@unsapient2197Well in a global context there are different levels of safe. There are places in which kidnappings and terrorist attacks have a high chance of happening which is a lot worse than being mugged or pick pocketed.
Why Cover did not give them some fake job title?
Why can't they just say their translators to cover Corp and be done with it?
I think even when flying internationally and dealing with TSA attempting to lie could lead down a much worse path. Some people with positions of power abuse it and its probably just easier to be honest with them
Cover would have to cover for them with fake job contract listing them as translators, which is highly illegal. Furthermore it would be suspicious as nobody fly in a Japanese-English interpreter. You hire one locally.
Because then you'd be outright lying, and the US will happily use whatever they can against you if it sticks.
Pretty sure you can just say you're here for work and that'll be it. I'm sure they see it all the time.
Good thinking to seperate, Kiara accidentally confimed "herself" she is kiara unlike others. Seeing her in public with others will instantly be recognized, especially if they are heard speaking
I don't think explaining to immigration, hence government about vtubers is a good thing with how ironmouse and other vtubers being targeted recently.
They see you as a outlier using alias that is outside if their scope of control. If they can't control you 100% they see you as a threat.
Recently looked up information when I was curious about how criminal organizations operate, and adult websites and similar content industry wide, are good forms of money for them.
And with money comes influence and lobbying politics and businesses outside of their normal sphere of influence.
For those of you thinking a niche genre in a entertainment industry is safe, rethink that.
@@dra6o0n Why are you talking to yourself for 3 comments?
If you're in America, and in a city big enough for an international airport, That is almost certainly one of the most dangerous places to be. Maybe not in the airport itself, but the moment you go farther into the city past the taxi and bus services... have an escort with you or some kind of bodyguard.
Things are not so great in our cities right now.
was that the same safe city she got stalked or..?
That was in Japan
TSA was lying anyway calling NYC "safe"
@@longiusaescius2537 How is it unsafe? I lived there 2 decades and never experienced a single crime.
@@KonglomeratYTGod, I love the absolutely asinine and oblivious reasoning of "oh I've never had this happen to me, so it must be that it never happens to anyone, and anyone who says otherwise is lying." Maybe you should get outside of your little bubble.
Things like this also make me further appreciate the value of tuning into public figures who are more healthily social than I am even when their healthier social skills don't get them as much profit. Like, having someone I can relate my struggles with can only go so far, and I wanna outdo myself every single day even if the best I can ever manage is just a little bit. And in the end, the fools in the government are also our fellow fools, so yeah, screw the pride, spread the love.