The Honda Point Disaster
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- On the 8th September 1923, fourteen U.S. Navy ships were heading south from San Francisco Bay to San Diego Bay. The Clemson-class destroyers were running a 24 hour training exercise from Northern California to Southern California.
These ships were the newest and latest ships to be built since The First World War, with the U.S. Navy using this opportunity to showcase their muscle to the rest of the world. The drill, however, did not go as planned.
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Chapters:
0:00 Titles
0:06 Introduction
0:50 Desron 11
2:01 The Great Kanto Earthquake
2:52 Dead Reckoning
5:35 The Honda Point Disaster
13:13 The Inquest
15:00 Outro
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It's amazing that only 23 lives were lost. The seas in this area can be super rough, and a lot colder than in Southern California.
This is great!
How is this quality of story-telling and video not hitting the algo? Deserves to be seen by more people.
Don't usually follow these kinds of stories well because I'm not knowledgeable about naval stuff, but man, these animations (and the rewind and replay) really make it compelling for me. Amazing job!
"Tragedy At Honda" authored by Charles A. Lockwood is an excellent account of this event with many things not covered in this video summary (such as the work of nearby railroad personnel trying to help the sailors). Strongly recommended.
One error in the video - "follow the leader" was, at that time, a formal and approved tactic for navy destroyers, cruisers and battleships.
Amazon has the book. Thanks for recommending it.
Really well made video! I hadn’t heard about this accident.
It'd be one thing if they were left to the elements, but they had access to the correct navigation and chose to ignore it out of pride. Taking responsibility for something you were responsible for isn't something to be "commended" for IMO.
Sounds just like Americans to me.
Right?!
Having watched another video about this same disaster, yours is far superior in using the animation to properly show exactly how each ship came to blows. The way you rewound and refocused; brilliant. Enthralling to watch and listen to. Wonderful video x
You did an excellent job of telling a complex story in a comprehensible manner. I hadn’t known this story, and found it fascinating. Great share!
I live by here crazy how they don’t teach us this in school
Things like this are deemed as unpatriotic, not to be taught. Friendly fires, utter war crimes, cover-ups, silly fumbles, anything but hurrah and bravery - all hidden in history. When you dont know about history or learn from it, youre going to repeat it. Troubling.
Never knew this. What a fascinating disaster. Superb. 👍🏻
Huell Howser, a prominent California broadcaster, did an episode of his show about this incident in the '90s. He interviewed people who remember dragging sailors out of the water that night.
Phenomenal work!!! Putting things in picture makes you feel like you're there and helps understanding these events
This channel deserves way more attention than it currently has, these are so high quality and interesting topics. I wish you can get over 1m on a video one day💜
So that’s why it’s called dead reckoning
Great video! Thanks for another great video!
One question, though. I always thought "The Graveyard of the Pacific" referred to the area of coastline from northern Oregon and the Columbia Bar to up along Victoria Island in British Columbia? I wonder if it one of those cases where multiple areas have the same nickname.
I knew about this incident before, probably read about it somewhere years ago, but I never made the connection with the Great Kanto Earthquake. Learned something new, thanks! :D
Came here from fascinating horror And I'm very glad I did!! Excellent video and production. Absolutely subbed! Thank you very much!!
Great video mate really looking forward to the next one. one small criticism would be to highlight the ship your currently talking about in a different colour like red to keep track but otherwise really well paced and great animation.
Good call
Why have I never heard of this? Great story. Thanks for the video.
Always love your videos. You're a fantastic storyteller. Hopefully other people start to realize what an amazing hidden gem this channel is.
Thank you
Totally agree. Saw the notification and got super excited.
Totally agree. Keep going you will get noticed!
What a sad but interesting story! Thank you for another great vid Spektator!
Amazing video! Great way to follow the action by rewinding and focusing on each ship in turn. Excellent video.
Very good video. Wasn't aware of this story. Very unfortunate. The cinematography is outstanding! Great work! (Edited as my phone put "tired" before cinematography, but I didn't realize it until I got a notification that it was liked)
Fantastic video as always!!!
So glad to see another upload. Fantastic video!
MAN I LOVE IT WHEN YOU UPLOAD, maybe this is just me since im a visual guy but it would help if after the colitions and aftermath we could see the names of the ships to tell them apart , but again i thinks thats just me , overall, loved the vdeio keep up the good work
I live in the town closest to this accident, the Chauncey is still there and I believe some remnants of the other ships. Unfortunately Honda Point resides on military owned land (Vandenberg Space Force Base) so I can’t visit it.
People took accountability for their actions a century ago? Impressive!
I dove on the USS Lee, Just bronze left after all these years, Only a few days a year is it possible due to surf, Strong surge.
Sir Francis Drake sailed around the world in 1577 without engines and these guys couldn't make it from SF to San Diego with steam engines.
Great vid mate
Here's a story about a sailor on one of the ships involved:
In effort to help his fellow sailors he breaks his glasses and glass gets into his eyes blinding him. He thrashes around in agony and since they are unable to evacuate him, in order to protect him from himself (falling overboard, hurting himself even more), or harming his fellow sailors, they tie him down to a mast on the ship, assuming they'll be able to rescue him in the morning.
He stayed tied to the ship as it went down.
Enjoy the nightmares.
Do you have a name and ship?
Seems a bit odd he was tied up to a damaged ship during an emergency and then left unsupervised to “come get him in the morning”
What is the mast on a destroyer?
Feel like he could have been evacuated or waited with?
It’s not like seizures or a psychosis where he might not calm down or remain a danger.
Even if inconsolable he’d exhaust himself right?
@@Jay22222 The Delphi. Search for “The Honda Point Disaster” video from Maritime Horrors. 14:30
Omg
Your animations are improving, well done. Great video.
Was the captain “right” not to trust the radio location RDF in any respect?
(Was the tech being in its infancy known to be unreliable at the time?)
Or was it purely driven by habit and ego?
Did the officers have any valid basis to not trust it.
When the first ship ran aground, could they not radio the other ships and have prevented some of the pile up?
Emergency radio sent as soon as first collision?
How come the mechanics stayed behind in the engine room?
What did you mean about “keeping the boilers extinguished” and why did that present risk of explosion.
Having to adjust valves or something makes a bit of sense but not requiring supervision until the end. Did they know they were going down when volunteering
Unless a fuel leak or combustible exhaust issue perhaps?
I think putting numbers or identifiable markings on each ship wild have been a bit less confusing.
Fantastic videos. You deserve a lot more recognition..
Thanks.
Good presentation. Just one criticism - That area is not "the Graveyard of the Pacific". That term is reserved for the shoreline in the Pacific northwest, that runs from just south of the mouth of the Columbia River all the way up to Vancouver Island in British Columbia, Canada.
i owned a Honda XL 250 for 3 years & regret selling her for a pittance because i needed a Van for work ☹️
What a freaking clown show. Did no one think to radio the ship behind them? Light signals? Hell wave their arms on the deck? A true wtf moment
The only problem with the animation is the use of Fletcher-class destroyers, instead of Clemson-class four-stackers. They look very different.
I agree that they definitely are not Clemsons, they are also not Fletchers. They have a twin turret, with a single turret super-firing over the twin, and I think that’s a single gun turret on the aft. Then there’s the funnel…a single funnel that’s spaced rather far from the super-structure. I honestly don’t know what model was used
@@bobkile9734 I found which one he was using. It's a Dutch 1950s destroyer, the Friesland class. Though this particular model seems like it might be a slightly fictional version as all the pictures of the Friesland class I could find don't have that extra single gun turret at the front or other items present on the model.
What an embarrassing sh*tshow. No wonder nobody talks about this
As usual, all you need is a one ignorant person to cause a disaster.
Bran new shiny Clemson class destroyers destroyed before most could even fire there first salvo, uss delphy would of been a beast, mhhmmm love me some 4 stacker destroyers
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Talk about a clusterfk.
They lost seven ships and it was "one of the biggest peacetime loss of ships".........
How often does this shit happen FFS 🤦😂😂😂
Why didn't the Navy navigators rely on GPS and backup LORAN? Could have easily accesed Ship Passage Navigation System on bridge laptop.
Um, it was 1923. That stuff didn't exist back then.
@@ronaldrobertson2332 U have 0 clue as what U r talking 'bout. GPS, cell phones, intermets have always existed. Ancient South Americans settled China and Australia )aka land of Oz) using this Heaven sent technology by ancient aliens. Please read up on on Internet and educamate urself.
Great video man
Time to make me a ☕️
Eh.. A whole fleet dealt with, like this.. wow
Talk about compounding errors..
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Trapped within its shell? lol you mean hull
oye, sapien....are u watching this video !
Captain: Everyone bail..... Engine room why aren't you abandoning the ship?
Sacrificial Lambs: Sorry, no can do. our parents taught us to never leave the house until your sure you cut off the gas.
How is it we've never heard of this disaster ? Oh, that's right, the indoctrination we Americans receive doesn't allow for such.
How in the world did this happen to so many boats, the blind leading the blind. I've lived on the coast, and been on the seas my entire life. I've handled everything from a 8 foot dinghy and fishing boats in the bays, to crossing the Gulf of Mexico, and the Caribbean sea longitudinally, from Louisiana to Columbia several times, on several different vessels all of which being over 100 tons the largest being 165 feet in length. Steel hulled, commercial vessels. Even with the seas being what they were, dead reckoning has proven over millenia to be a very accurate means of navigation, when performed correctly. Currents being changed isn't an excuse, currents change, there are and were then methods of knowing what the current is in your location. There are factors in dead reckoning that you use to account for this and other anomalies. This was the result of using people that are well educated, academics with little actual experience sailing, fair weather sailors. The men commanding these ships had no business in their position, that much is obvious. I don't care how rough the sees were, those ships had searchlights that were high enough above the sea, with enough candela they should have seen these rocks before they ran into them. Especially in a raging sea, the spray thrown up from the rocks alone would be visible for quite a distance.
This is why we haven't heard of this ridiculous wreck, because it is an embarrassment, just as many such happenings in western navies as of late. How is it the first ship to strike bottom didn't warn the others behind them, by radio, or signal light ?
We haven't heard much of this because we obviously would rather forget it ever happened. Of course the families of the deceased didn't have such luxury !
I absolutely concur
Why don't you visit the site yourself like I did when I was a kid? That's how I found out about it.
sapiennnn
What happened to the lead captain after this fuck up holy smokes
Dw just got to end.
All those ships scrapped for 1500 bucks. Oh well, i guess thats better than leaving 85 billion dollars worth of weapons to the biggest terror group on earth.
Californians? Im lost.
I mean.. 1500$ was a heck of a lot of money in the 20’s not to mention you no longer have the impossible and expensive task of salvaging all of it, I think the vast majority of industry was on the other side of the country too so he’ll of a task getting it there.
Saving a lot of headaches by selling it.
Wait did we give 85$billion to israel???
@@truhhhhhhhokIII3😂😂😂😂 unfortunately “we” gave way more than that!
@@truhhhhhhhokIII3hs was referring to weapons left in Afghanistan
sapien, sapien , sapien
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Ok, but not that accurate. The Navy rejected the Tsunami theory. Lots of other navigational and doctrinal errors.
The tsunamie theory is part of the navigation issues,which were the entire crux of Dead Reckoning.
What an American display of power.
What's your problem?
Somebody jealous of the USA?
@@glenquagmire4340Nobody is jealous of a 20% White country filled with Mexican invaders and ruled over by Dementia Joe.
Liberal
@@glenquagmire4340LOLOL