I love it when Ben just slips in a very Aussie expression… “let it go through to the keeper”…. My immediate reaction: “Bowlin’ Shane!” Edit: well, more a cricketing expression, but for some reason, I don’t hear my English or Indian friends use the phrase.
Joey Jordisson did the inverted and spinning drum solo first. Travis got the idea from him. For those unaware, Joey was slipknots drummer. He was a madman on the skins. RIP. He performed said solo on the disasterpieces tour back when they released their second album Iowa.
I think the biggest issue with criticism around Daggerheart, MCDM RPG, and other recently-emerging systems is that people are expecting and therefore judging a game based on how well it replicates D&D 5E. This is an issue when the games in question have no intention or interest in becoming the "next" D&D. It's this weird paradox where people are searching for the next 5E without wanting any of the traits of... 5E?
Best shows I've been to: -Moist (Canadian alt-rock band) played a show in my hometown and at one point the singer tackled the keyboard player, nearly knocking the keyboard of its stand and they got wrapped up together in the microphone cord. They continued to play never missing a note while the roadies extracted them. -The Tea Party (another Canadian alt-rock band) playing with an Indian tabula ensemble. -Seeing Tool on the Lateralus tour (1999?) -The Summer of SARS (2003) where many major acts were avoiding Toronto, so I saw my favourite band ever Dream Theater with their prog-metal forebears Queensryche in Barrie, Ontario with just 1,000 other people. -VNV Nation. Such a high energy group. -Apocalyptica with Dir en Grey opening. You might not think 4 cellists could rock so hard, but you'd be wrong. -Rodrigo y Gabriela with C.U.B.A. - So much energy and passion, they had all of Massey Hall rocking. -Iron Maiden on the Brave New World tour.
@@MagiofAsura my knowledge is limited but as I understand characters have to stack up dread (or whatever) for the DM to cash in against characters kinda like cypher intrustions? I might be off but I don't think it's as "structured" as modern d20 fantasy games. If I'm wrong someone will correct me. :)
we have been playing daggerheart and have continued to do so with making the adjustments to 1.3. there are some balance issues that need sorting out, but I will confirm, this is a game for stoytellers NOT mechanic monkeys or min maxers. This is tougher on a GM, as they have to be able to narrate improv well in multiple facete on the fly, on the other hand its easy to play for players and will actually help and encourage players to learn to Narrate better. so far the lack of initiatice has not burdened us, infact its incredibly refreshing, and the eb n flo of hope and fear works well. We never had an issue with anyone hogging the lime light, good players do w fits their character and be mindful of allowing others their turn
I saw that Roger Waters tour in Vancouver. One HELL of an experience. That man really loves his fans; guy walked around the crowd for almost 30 minutes before the show started. My late entry: Blue Man Group in Vegas 🤌
I saw Gojira at the Phoenix in Toronto circa 2012/2013, something like that. I've been to a lot of concerts, but this was the best show I've ever participated in. Transcendent.
Best live music I've been to was the band of the Royal Marines, particularly their swing section, amazing. Best live show was seeing Knightmare Live! during the Leicester Comedy Festival pre-covid. As a fan of the old tv series it combined nostalgia with a great comedy show.
Ben: "Speaking of things you need to incorporate into your game..." and my RUclips cuts straight to an ad "If you need to clear stuck poop from your colon..." 🤣🤣🤣
I hope Ben, Monty and Kelly realise (I'm sure they do) that the reason they are feeling like kids playing games all day in their late 30s is because they work IN games, professionally. I am the same age, working in healthcare, with a young family. And boy do I not have enough time for games. Like none. Which is disappointing sometimes, mostly because its harder to see friends. But my work and family is important too, and there's only so many hours in the day.
30:56 2 players in my group would NOT do well with no initiative. They want to do so much already on their turns, and our group is on the large side to begin with
I was at a Grateful Dead concert in Deer Creek, Indiana when a riot broke out and led to the destruction of the wooden fence in the backfield, flooding the venue with people who were sold fake tickets. Riot cops. Tear gas. Police dogs. The late 1900s were wild.
I'd contend we've all been there, where the day to day means administrative tasks like returning bad product get left to the side. That said, thanks for the reminder on this one.
Check out TOmmy Lee of Motley Crue, whos drum solo set came up and out and SPUN around.. on the Girls Girls Girls tour.. pretty sure he was the first. 1988 i think.
1:02:12 - D&D movie: total agree! I would say it's on par with the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie. 1:03:20 -- LoL did not know Chris Pines compared it to GotG. right on the nose.
Re: Hasbro toys vs. games: I wonder if society is steering towards play with strict boundaries and rules. (Not including our TTRPGs) Board and card games have rules that players must adhere to, but frisbees and sand pails have no rules or guidelines.
Not saying I agree with him, but I think his point was more along the lines of 'even if Dropout promotes anti-capitalist ideology, they still have to function in a capitalistic system'.
@@samuelwyatt7846 Of course but the whole reason why D20 did what they could to stop the $2000 tickets was because they didn't want to maximize profits.
@samuelwyatt7846 I don't think a capitalist system relieves people of the responsibility to behave ethically. It may allow them to not behave ethically, but is not itself an excuse to follow that sort of path of least resistance.
Agreed, just because a small number of fans can afford to, and are willing to pay $2000 for a ticket does not make it right to charge that. Dimension 20 people are all getting paid enough to pay their bills and eat food, charging more for tickets is just being exploitative and cutting out large swaths of the audience from being able to possibly attend, not just taking part in capitalism.
I understand why people liked the dnd movie. 😬 I just cant bring myself around to it. I do find it interesting though that they compared it to the first Guardians movie. I also find myself in a minority there as I didn't like that one either, though for a fairly different list of different reasons... 🤔
I would love to do live D&D. I'm with Kelly... I think I would thrive on the energy. I already derive a lot of energy from my players. My audience is nowhere near big enough to draw a crowd... Yet 😉
I dislike the new DH help rule because the help might not actually help. If you rolled a 10 on your hope die and the help hope die rolled a 7, they DIDNT help you. +1d6 will ALWAYS add value.
I see what you mean, but if they rolled a 10 they didn't need help, luckily. But they very likely succeeded with hope, which is great. If I'm helping someone and they succeed with hope (regardless of how), I'm happy. But ofc if they rolled a 4 and a fear 6 and you roll a hope 9, we'll now that help looks AMAZING.
In classical supply demand economics, yes it does. But this is a good example of where that sort of blunt capitalism is bad for actual people and fairness in a society. Notwithstanding the fact that it seems in this case the 2k ticket wasn't actually taken up, so that supply demand hypothetical was never really tested. This sort of example of capitalism going awry wouldn't be so bad except, unfortunately, there are lots of these examples that badly impact a vast swathe of society.
Kudos to d20 for fixing it, but 'we didnt know how the pricing worked' as an excuse absolutley stinks. Im with monty, capitalism aint great, but theyre producing a luxury item, if people want to pay thousands of dollars to see them good for them, just be honest about it.
FIRST!
How???!!?
😂
Dael is a TIME LORD. 🌟
LMFAO
Dael isn't even in this episode, yet beat everyone to the comments... She may in fact be a timelord.
Im 55 and started playing D&D in 1980 still do. With at least one of the same people I played that first game.
That's bad ass!
I love it when Ben just slips in a very Aussie expression… “let it go through to the keeper”…. My immediate reaction: “Bowlin’ Shane!”
Edit: well, more a cricketing expression, but for some reason, I don’t hear my English or Indian friends use the phrase.
Boooooooooowwwwwwled Garyyyyyyy
Joey Jordisson did the inverted and spinning drum solo first. Travis got the idea from him. For those unaware, Joey was slipknots drummer. He was a madman on the skins. RIP. He performed said solo on the disasterpieces tour back when they released their second album Iowa.
I think the biggest issue with criticism around Daggerheart, MCDM RPG, and other recently-emerging systems is that people are expecting and therefore judging a game based on how well it replicates D&D 5E. This is an issue when the games in question have no intention or interest in becoming the "next" D&D. It's this weird paradox where people are searching for the next 5E without wanting any of the traits of... 5E?
Best shows I've been to:
-Moist (Canadian alt-rock band) played a show in my hometown and at one point the singer tackled the keyboard player, nearly knocking the keyboard of its stand and they got wrapped up together in the microphone cord. They continued to play never missing a note while the roadies extracted them.
-The Tea Party (another Canadian alt-rock band) playing with an Indian tabula ensemble.
-Seeing Tool on the Lateralus tour (1999?)
-The Summer of SARS (2003) where many major acts were avoiding Toronto, so I saw my favourite band ever Dream Theater with their prog-metal forebears Queensryche in Barrie, Ontario with just 1,000 other people.
-VNV Nation. Such a high energy group.
-Apocalyptica with Dir en Grey opening. You might not think 4 cellists could rock so hard, but you'd be wrong.
-Rodrigo y Gabriela with C.U.B.A. - So much energy and passion, they had all of Massey Hall rocking.
-Iron Maiden on the Brave New World tour.
37:50 - rolling with fear, for folks that aren't narrative GMs, is essentially becoming "you trigger an opportunity attack"
Is their opportunity attacks in any gm moves or are all characters free to run around?
@@MagiofAsura my knowledge is limited but as I understand characters have to stack up dread (or whatever) for the DM to cash in against characters kinda like cypher intrustions? I might be off but I don't think it's as "structured" as modern d20 fantasy games.
If I'm wrong someone will correct me. :)
we have been playing daggerheart and have continued to do so with making the adjustments to 1.3. there are some balance issues that need sorting out, but I will confirm, this is a game for stoytellers NOT mechanic monkeys or min maxers. This is tougher on a GM, as they have to be able to narrate improv well in multiple facete on the fly, on the other hand its easy to play for players and will actually help and encourage players to learn to Narrate better. so far the lack of initiatice has not burdened us, infact its incredibly refreshing, and the eb n flo of hope and fear works well. We never had an issue with anyone hogging the lime light, good players do w fits their character and be mindful of allowing others their turn
So the question is: What are the top 10 or 15 fantasy movies and is DND on that list? Including Sword and Sorcery and sandal movies.
I saw that Roger Waters tour in Vancouver. One HELL of an experience. That man really loves his fans; guy walked around the crowd for almost 30 minutes before the show started.
My late entry: Blue Man Group in Vegas 🤌
I saw Gojira at the Phoenix in Toronto circa 2012/2013, something like that. I've been to a lot of concerts, but this was the best show I've ever participated in. Transcendent.
Best live music I've been to was the band of the Royal Marines, particularly their swing section, amazing.
Best live show was seeing Knightmare Live! during the Leicester Comedy Festival pre-covid. As a fan of the old tv series it combined nostalgia with a great comedy show.
I went to that same Blink Concert Tour in Sarnia Canada. Must have been 2003/2004. Drums were insane.
Ben: "Speaking of things you need to incorporate into your game..." and my RUclips cuts straight to an ad "If you need to clear stuck poop from your colon..." 🤣🤣🤣
I hope Ben, Monty and Kelly realise (I'm sure they do) that the reason they are feeling like kids playing games all day in their late 30s is because they work IN games, professionally.
I am the same age, working in healthcare, with a young family. And boy do I not have enough time for games. Like none. Which is disappointing sometimes, mostly because its harder to see friends. But my work and family is important too, and there's only so many hours in the day.
Amazing work, Dante. lol
30:56 2 players in my group would NOT do well with no initiative. They want to do so much already on their turns, and our group is on the large side to begin with
Man, that roger waters show was nuts.they had a pig shaped blimp flying overhead dropping little crucifixes
I was at a Grateful Dead concert in Deer Creek, Indiana when a riot broke out and led to the destruction of the wooden fence in the backfield, flooding the venue with people who were sold fake tickets. Riot cops. Tear gas. Police dogs. The late 1900s were wild.
I'd contend we've all been there, where the day to day means administrative tasks like returning bad product get left to the side. That said, thanks for the reminder on this one.
Check out TOmmy Lee of Motley Crue, whos drum solo set came up and out and SPUN around.. on the Girls Girls Girls tour.. pretty sure he was the first. 1988 i think.
I second that.
I think Rush's Neil Peart and Frank Zappa's drummer Terry Bozzio both had rotating drum risers before Tommy.
@@digitaljanus I bow to your greater knowledge. First I saw was Tommy Lee.
Lol Kelly, that was an awesome blink tour. 13 year old me thought it was sooooo edgy. Also saw that Rodger Waters tour. So bloody Amazing
A number of drummers have done that over the years.
1:02:12 - D&D movie: total agree! I would say it's on par with the first Guardians of the Galaxy movie.
1:03:20 -- LoL did not know Chris Pines compared it to GotG. right on the nose.
Re: Hasbro toys vs. games: I wonder if society is steering towards play with strict boundaries and rules. (Not including our TTRPGs) Board and card games have rules that players must adhere to, but frisbees and sand pails have no rules or guidelines.
I'm 4 seconds into the video - my answer is: yes it does make it better, for me and my table :P
I agree with Shawn, as an older gamer (50+), every year I tell my family "I might have to grow older but I don't have to gtow up".
Is it a big venue. No, not really. 19,500 seats.
Wth is Monty talking about $2000 tickets, people gotta eat? Talk about coming from a position of privilege, Monty Moneybags.
MSG holds just under 20k
I dont think Monty actually understands what anti-capitalist means. "Get what you can get while you can" is literally a capitalist mentality!
Not saying I agree with him, but I think his point was more along the lines of 'even if Dropout promotes anti-capitalist ideology, they still have to function in a capitalistic system'.
@@samuelwyatt7846 Of course but the whole reason why D20 did what they could to stop the $2000 tickets was because they didn't want to maximize profits.
@samuelwyatt7846 I don't think a capitalist system relieves people of the responsibility to behave ethically. It may allow them to not behave ethically, but is not itself an excuse to follow that sort of path of least resistance.
Agreed, just because a small number of fans can afford to, and are willing to pay $2000 for a ticket does not make it right to charge that. Dimension 20 people are all getting paid enough to pay their bills and eat food, charging more for tickets is just being exploitative and cutting out large swaths of the audience from being able to possibly attend, not just taking part in capitalism.
@@tylerreed2409 Yeah I prefaced my comment with 'not saying I agree with him'.
Your argument is with Monty, not with me
I understand why people liked the dnd movie. 😬 I just cant bring myself around to it. I do find it interesting though that they compared it to the first Guardians movie. I also find myself in a minority there as I didn't like that one either, though for a fairly different list of different reasons... 🤔
Awe, that's sad.
I enjoyed the movie. I'd probably watch 5 of them.
I would love to do live D&D. I'm with Kelly... I think I would thrive on the energy. I already derive a lot of energy from my players.
My audience is nowhere near big enough to draw a crowd...
Yet 😉
YET is the key word!
I dislike the new DH help rule because the help might not actually help. If you rolled a 10 on your hope die and the help hope die rolled a 7, they DIDNT help you.
+1d6 will ALWAYS add value.
Advantage gives a mathematical bonus to your end result.
I see what you mean, but if they rolled a 10 they didn't need help, luckily. But they very likely succeeded with hope, which is great. If I'm helping someone and they succeed with hope (regardless of how), I'm happy.
But ofc if they rolled a 4 and a fear 6 and you roll a hope 9, we'll now that help looks AMAZING.
Just becuz RICH people can afford a 2k ticket does NOT make that ticket WORTH 2k
It does if you really wanted that ticket.
Any economics student knows that, fiscally speaking, something is worth what people are willing to pay for it.
In classical supply demand economics, yes it does. But this is a good example of where that sort of blunt capitalism is bad for actual people and fairness in a society. Notwithstanding the fact that it seems in this case the 2k ticket wasn't actually taken up, so that supply demand hypothetical was never really tested.
This sort of example of capitalism going awry wouldn't be so bad except, unfortunately, there are lots of these examples that badly impact a vast swathe of society.
That's literally how supply and demand works... lol
@@chrisg8989 cool pretty soon the working class will just be working to working. Ya know, like slaves
The more i hear about Daggerheart the less interested i am.
Kudos to d20 for fixing it, but 'we didnt know how the pricing worked' as an excuse absolutley stinks.
Im with monty, capitalism aint great, but theyre producing a luxury item, if people want to pay thousands of dollars to see them good for them, just be honest about it.
Why are the Daggerheart reviews so emotionless? This is giving me no information on what this game is about?
everything DOEs come back to 5e... for a lot of reasons