Nice video.. Can u tell me that when loco is reversed n the connection of hog is done is it necessary to down both the pantograph.... For security reasons.??
Those look like Westinghouse automatic couplers. The lever on the side operates them to open so shunters etc do not have to get between buffers or other places to get crushed. Another of George Westinghouse's brilliant ideas.
Does the AC work well in all the coaches? As there must be some neutral point where the electricity may get cutoff. Even loco will have more load of passing the current to all the coaches
Yes AC work very well in HOG as like with EOG.... Yes there is Neutral point in overhead wires but its nothing effected due to transformers in EOG.... Loco is just supply the rectified current to EOG after and rest of the work is handled by Transformers which is located in EOG
Is there a break in lighting and air conditioning when the loco passes thru section crossovers as the loco electric connection is switched off. When we travel by Delhi metro, there is a five seconds gap as pantos are lowered during such crossovers..
Ramagopal Vishnubhotla Yes there is a break for Air-conditioning in HOG, but the lightings are provided with battery backup.. BTW thanks for watching..
Ramagopal Vishnubhotla that was 'neutral section'. Technically speaking it was a phase change of power supply. Due to this locomotive should stop intake of power from one when entering other isolating mixing of phases. To prevent the power disturbance. In memu it happens for upto 10 secs due to the train has to cross the neutral section from starting loco to ending loco. completely.
Ashish Diggi Please note that the Technician goes to turn off EOG before the coupling of HOG cables from the loco.. the electricity for the coaches are taken from the loco.. so the EOG don't run after coupling...
@@mvh996 What if Loco fails, fault in panto or the overhead lines....Imagine the suffocation in ac coaches due to lack of power to for safety and backup and also before the Loco connects EOG is used for power. Power loco coupling EOG is just a redundant failsafe system. (Source: As observed in Jan 20 in HWH Puri Exp)
Nice, informative video.how to identify train running with HOG, is there any extra sound from WAP 7 apart from usual engine sound or if the train running with EOG with no sound
Nambi Valavan The train will actually run with no sounds from the EOG, as well as the Cables from EOG are connected to loco, we can infer that the train is running with HOG
I wish by the end of 2024 ( 100% Electrification Target) every LHB train will Run with HOG end to end. Every LHB converted Train should run with HOG and Atleast 3,4 General Coaches should be attached only back side for every train India wide ...then only passengers can get sear easily n safely.
What's the need of EOG when it is converted to HOG?? Railways say that eog will be eliminated and it will be replaced by new coach which consists of luggage room, physically disabled, passenger's coach(around 40 members) and guard room.
EOG is a method to transfer power to the coaches, however the new coach of LHB SLR also consist of generator below the coach in addition to the passenger seats and luggage rooms.
@@venugopal-go4wn the EOG will be replaced by LSLRD in SF trains, as it has space for passengers and luggage. For Rajdhani and Shatabdi, EOG will exist.
Thank You so much for sharing ! I has some questions to be answered. While the connection were being made , the Loco's panto was raised ? Even if not raised, power supply is through Batteries. Is there any threat of a Electrical Shock , As the Black coloured wire is plugged in and that Thick cable is attached to the hotel load coupler.
Rishi The Rail Philic The pantos were lowered when the Hotel load coupling took place.. Probably for precautions they might have did it. The lighting have battery backup, but the Airconditioners don't. The thick black cable is called UIC Cable, used for controlling signals between the loco and the EOG.. BTW Thanks for watching... :)
Siddharthan C NP, BTW (this) HOG tech is quite complicated, Every EOG coaches don't have those cables to Support HOG facility. *Many* HOG capable WAP-7 are Omnidirectional i.e. can supply power only for One direction of Travel, because of lack of Port on the other side of Loco.
I view 12244 as an inauspicious train that brought tremendous bad luck to Kovai Express. Overtake by this train has killed Kovai Express which is now returning to Chennai beyond 11 pm and many a times beyond midnight too..
During 80s kovai exp covers the same distance in 7hrs. With less stoppages, dep mas 0600hrs, arr. Cbe 1300hrs, dep cbe 1400hrs. Arr.mas 2100hrs, with stops katpadi, jtj,sa, ed, tup only, nowadays lot of stops, it won't make up time, almost running behind schedule
@@vivekmadabooshi9320 it was even faster, I think it was dep. MAS 6 am and arr. CBE 12.40 or something, before being slowed down. Only its counterpart on the NR the old 119/120 Gomti Exp. now 12419/20 was faster, as it covered a higher distance of 507 kms. between NDLS-LKO via CNB Dep. Delhi 2 pm and Arr. LKO 9.15 pm
HOG is power obtained from above power line through pantograph... EOG is, In every LHB train there is will be generator at each end. HOG - Head On Generation EOG - End on Generation
@@linstongroves6062 kk...thanks bro Now IR announced remove all eog. So that is started or yet to start. So power supply can transfer engine to entire boogie right
HoG and EOG are railway technical terms for providing electricity to coaches either through Locomotive or Generator van. Now IR is stepping up to implement HOG in more and more trains..
rahul kopparthi look for the extra 4 ventillators besides the ones you see on WAG 9, also you will find 2 thick receptacles for the HOG connection to the generator car. The kVA rating of the transformer of such loco is high, so there will be even more noise from the loco. Most trains are running with either this edition or the normal WAP 7.
Hi Siddharth Can you get me railway jobs bro I done electrical and electronics engineering Pls help me bro As local pilot or electric man for locomotives
enoch dinesh I am a student bro.. Try writing in RRB exams.. if you have completed diploma you can apply for Junior engineer, Assistant loco pilot through exams conducted by RRB, Chennai.
This southern railway technician employee doesn't even know what cable that is properly and what Is EOG THATS WHY INDIAN RAILWAY ARE 150 YRS BEHIND WORLD RAILWAY IF I ASK SAME QUESTION TO CSK TRAIN CONDUCTOR HE HAD GIVEN BETTER EXPLANATION OR ELSE ROUTED ME TO TRAIN LOCO ENGINEER
Additional safety is definitely needed on Indian Railways. They need all the additional safety they can get, just to be safe to be anywhere near as safe as the rest of the world.
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They explained well about features of HOG coupling superb!
Most thorough coverage of an HOG equipped loco's coupling. Many thanks.
Nux hjur nmrui
Very nice concept. Hopefully will be implement in all trains for saving bio fuels
varinder ldh Yes, expecting that...
@@SiddharthanC va bete lagta he ki tum gu kha ke hi manoge
😂😂😂
Congratulations on getting HOG WAP7 :)
I hope this is adapted allover the Nation. Good Luck from Delhi.
Kunal Sarkar Yeah, Hoping soon...
cunfusion on HOG supply cleared. Thanks for the video
Good demo of connecting Shatabti to WAP7 engine. Very nice.
Ramanathan Subramanian Thanks ;D
I have rode in this train. Very good train.
Nice video.. Can u tell me that when loco is reversed n the connection of hog is done is it necessary to down both the pantograph.... For security reasons.??
Roshan sha yes, it is done for security reasons...
Very informative! I got a whole new idea from it.
Priyam Ganguly Thank you..
Those look like Westinghouse automatic couplers. The lever on the side operates them to open so shunters etc do not have to get between buffers or other places to get crushed. Another of George Westinghouse's brilliant ideas.
Mercmad Yes, It is an type of Automatic coupler.. Before that, British old screw type coupling is used..
Good work need more .thank you
Does the AC work well in all the coaches? As there must be some neutral point where the electricity may get cutoff. Even loco will have more load of passing the current to all the coaches
Yes AC work very well in HOG as like with EOG....
Yes there is Neutral point in overhead wires but its nothing effected due to transformers in EOG.... Loco is just supply the rectified current to EOG after and rest of the work is handled by Transformers which is located in EOG
Fristan Lobo head of indian. Railway. Jan. Shatabdi expess
Is there a break in lighting and air conditioning when the loco passes thru section crossovers as the loco electric connection is switched off. When we travel by Delhi metro, there is a five seconds gap as pantos are lowered during such crossovers..
Ramagopal Vishnubhotla Yes there is a break for Air-conditioning in HOG, but the lightings are provided with battery backup..
BTW thanks for watching..
Ramagopal Vishnubhotla that was 'neutral section'. Technically speaking it was a phase change of power supply. Due to this locomotive should stop intake of power from one when entering other isolating mixing of phases. To prevent the power disturbance. In memu it happens for upto 10 secs due to the train has to cross the neutral section from starting loco to ending loco. completely.
@@manoharram9327 Good explanation Manohar
Really informative...
Superb...
Fantastic coverage
Great video.. 👌 👌
Nice and fantabulous work da
Good explanation too.. Thanks!
Is the same coach used for HOG and EOG???
Amazing video!
Ashish N. Kangaokar Thanks Bro!!!
Good concept. Tough job.
Raj Kumar Yes...
I think this WAP 7 also has Air Conditioned cabs for locopilots.
nice video... one question... why the eog is being used if the power has to be taken from hog??... will the energy be now taken from eog or hog ???
Ashish Diggi Please note that the Technician goes to turn off EOG before the coupling of HOG cables from the loco.. the electricity for the coaches are taken from the loco.. so the EOG don't run after coupling...
Harish Mv Yes.. The power car coach act as intermediate , backup in case HOG failure and as a guard van
@@mvh996 What if Loco fails, fault in panto or the overhead lines....Imagine the suffocation in ac coaches due to lack of power to for safety and backup and also before the Loco connects EOG is used for power. Power loco coupling EOG is just a redundant failsafe system. (Source: As observed in Jan 20 in HWH Puri Exp)
super bro
thanks for the very informative video. what is that black cable being plugged at 5:55 apart from the two feeders?
Karthik Kumar Well that is called UIC cable,for transmitting control signal
from loco to power car.
I asked where have you taken the video : CBE or MAS?
Achyuth Sankar M CBE Bro..
SR - ERS CBE
Coupling madness🤩
thanks for the video. if it is HOG. why do they still have EOG/generator cars.?
Balachander Sunder They are used as guard vans, and also used as normal EOG if HOG make some faults...
Nice, informative video.how to identify train running with HOG, is there any extra sound from WAP 7 apart from usual engine sound or if the train running with EOG with no sound
Nambi Valavan The train will actually run with no sounds from the EOG, as well as the Cables from EOG are connected to loco, we can infer that the train is running with HOG
@@SiddharthanC Thanks
If these wire connection is broken while running the train...??
gyan techs wid kvm Not possible, very less chances r there, if happens then the will disconnect and run on Generator..
I wish by the end of 2024 ( 100% Electrification Target) every LHB train will Run with HOG end to end. Every LHB converted Train should run with HOG and Atleast 3,4 General Coaches should be attached only back side for every train India wide ...then only passengers can get sear easily n safely.
Very educational
What's the need of EOG when it is converted to HOG?? Railways say that eog will be eliminated and it will be replaced by new coach which consists of luggage room, physically disabled, passenger's coach(around 40 members) and guard room.
EOG is a method to transfer power to the coaches, however the new coach of LHB SLR also consist of generator below the coach in addition to the passenger seats and luggage rooms.
@@SiddharthanC the coach will be replaced or not??
@@venugopal-go4wn the EOG will be replaced by LSLRD in SF trains, as it has space for passengers and luggage. For Rajdhani and Shatabdi, EOG will exist.
what's the purpose of that thin black cable?
It is Called UIC cable, which is used for Monitoring the Voltage and etc. From the loco
It takes lot of work to get it done. Isn't it?
Rajorsi Roy Chowdhury Yeah...
Yeah m a service engineer of eog nd m doing the same work while escorting
Thank You so much for sharing !
I has some questions to be answered. While the connection were being made , the Loco's panto was raised ? Even if not raised, power supply is through Batteries. Is there any threat of a Electrical Shock , As the Black coloured wire is plugged in and that Thick cable is attached to the hotel load coupler.
Rishi The Rail Philic The pantos were lowered when the Hotel load coupling took place.. Probably for precautions they might have did it. The lighting have battery backup, but the Airconditioners don't. The thick black cable is called UIC Cable, used for controlling signals between the loco and the EOG.. BTW Thanks for watching... :)
Siddharthan C
BTW they also have HOG kill switch in Loco itself too...
Kunal Sarkar I am not into that much bro..
Siddharthan C
NP,
BTW (this) HOG tech is quite complicated, Every EOG coaches don't have those cables to Support HOG facility.
*Many* HOG capable WAP-7 are Omnidirectional
i.e. can supply power only for One direction of Travel, because of lack of Port on the other side of Loco.
Kunal Sarkar Yes, HOG capable EOGs have two inter vehicular couplers , while normal ones have one..
Great video ! Thanks for sharing !!
Abhinav LHB Thanku Bhaiya
When will IR get to all engine less train fleet.
atleast 3 decades
Sir, how to contact with you ? Please give the answer 🙏
What is the matter , how can I help you
super video
Good job.
hope IR adapts in all of the wap series locos to save the precious fuels
sudhanshu kumar Yes... it should be made on All LHB trains running on electric routes to save diesel Costs...
Fuels will also be saved and environment will also become less polluted.
They should also make pessenger locomotive which can carry 23-25 coaches easily.
Bro last la attach panna black cable ennadhu? (after the 2 HoG cables both side)
Ashwin Krishna Bro that is called UIC in railway terms, communication purpose. For EG, voltage, load reading monitor panna use aagum
Siddharthan C thanks bro!
Excellent decision
WAP-4 WAP-5 WAG-7 WAG-9 Connect agatha bro
ERODE JUNCTION Aagathu Bro, yenna HOG WAP7la matum than panna mudiyym... WAP5 is under research..
Siddharthan C hmm bro
WDP4 and WDP4D layum HOG iruku some locos only. NJP shathabdi videos pathingana theriyum.
Covert it sub title
Where is this done? Coimbatore or Chennai?
Achyuth Sankar M Both ways.. 12243 is chennai CBE Shatabdi and 12244 is CBE Chennai Shatabdi, it returns to chennai on the same day itself..
cbe junction
Is this hog applicable for diesel locos
No, as of now only electric locos wap5 and wap7
@@SiddharthanC TQ bro
At 5:54 what was that?
I mean what kind of plug
What's the use of it?
It is called the UIC cable, helps in monitoring the systems from the locos
@@SiddharthanC Thank You Bro
VERY NICE👌👌👌👌👌👍👍👍👍👍
COMMENT BY :- ROHIT APTE.
Netra Apte Thanks!!
I view 12244 as an inauspicious train that brought tremendous bad luck to Kovai Express. Overtake by this train has killed Kovai Express which is now returning to Chennai beyond 11 pm and many a times beyond midnight too..
During 80s kovai exp covers the same distance in 7hrs. With less stoppages, dep mas 0600hrs, arr. Cbe 1300hrs, dep cbe 1400hrs. Arr.mas 2100hrs, with stops katpadi, jtj,sa, ed, tup only, nowadays lot of stops, it won't make up time, almost running behind schedule
Women and elderly passengers are put to lot of problems due to the change in Kovai express timings.
@@vivekmadabooshi9320 it was even faster, I think it was dep. MAS 6 am and arr. CBE 12.40 or something, before being slowed down. Only its counterpart on the NR the old 119/120 Gomti Exp. now 12419/20 was faster, as it covered a higher distance of 507 kms. between NDLS-LKO via CNB Dep. Delhi 2 pm and Arr. LKO 9.15 pm
What is head on generation?and what is EOG?
HOG is power obtained from above power line through pantograph... EOG is, In every LHB train there is will be generator at each end.
HOG - Head On Generation
EOG - End on Generation
@@linstongroves6062 kk...thanks bro
Now IR announced remove all eog. So that is started or yet to start. So power supply can transfer engine to entire boogie right
@@AwesomeDaysbyFebin 342 train already converted and yet 284 trains to be converted
HoG and EOG are railway technical terms for providing electricity to coaches either through Locomotive or Generator van. Now IR is stepping up to implement HOG in more and more trains..
How to identify a HOG loco?
rahul kopparthi Spot for Extra Air Vents for HOG heat exchanger.
rahul kopparthi look for the extra 4 ventillators besides the ones you see on WAG 9, also you will find 2 thick receptacles for the HOG connection to the generator car. The kVA rating of the transformer of such loco is high, so there will be even more noise from the loco. Most trains are running with either this edition or the normal WAP 7.
Only WAP 5, WAP 7 and WAG 9 are HOG compatible.....
SWAPNIL SAHU no bro only WAP7 and a wdp4 and wdp5d are compatible
I dont know if it is correct or not but engines with HOG capability has yellow pantographs.....
Paren passenger train Ellam WAP 7 la poguthu. Enna koduma Saravana idhu😂😂😂. Metupalayam passenger achum paravala epayachum than aana Kannur passenger ku RPM WAP 7 than regular link eh.
Hi Siddharth
Can you get me railway jobs bro
I done electrical and electronics engineering
Pls help me bro
As local pilot or electric man for locomotives
enoch dinesh I am a student bro.. Try writing in RRB exams.. if you have completed diploma you can apply for Junior engineer, Assistant loco pilot through exams conducted by RRB, Chennai.
3.50 relief sound
gr8
Thanks Bro!!!
This southern railway technician employee doesn't even know what cable that is properly and what Is EOG THATS WHY INDIAN RAILWAY ARE 150 YRS BEHIND WORLD RAILWAY IF I ASK SAME QUESTION TO CSK TRAIN CONDUCTOR HE HAD GIVEN BETTER EXPLANATION OR ELSE ROUTED ME TO TRAIN LOCO ENGINEER
Dodgy air hose coupling held together with soft wire.
Doug Borrett Yeah... For additional safety
Additional safety is definitely needed on Indian Railways. They need all the additional safety they can get, just to be safe to be anywhere near as safe as the rest of the world.
Good night my friend to be able the other side is the most recent version and the first place I have no clue who I want you in my
Police varama pathuko :p yeah that's the main obstracle
Tamil RailFanning Films Athaethan... :p
Siddharthan C :)
Hi thala
Hi
Oooooo
tough job
Indian railways very slow
well
Koi baat
m
Risky job
Ninad Samant Why😁
I would rather say tough job. It's not risky because they already do safety precautions and start coupling and decoupling.
I think this WAP 7 also has Air Conditioned cabs for locopilots.
Vimal Kumar This WAP7 doesn't have, but others may have...
Wow! they updated it with HOG .. they didn't make it airconditioned
Vimal Kumar Yeah Bro...
@@VimalKumar-up9zb yap air conditioner is available in WAP7