Depends. I would say that is true for people who are just trying to flip without building the business around it. Most small businesses operate on credit. Most of the card shops out there are operating on debt. Debt can be fine if used properly.
@NOLA-vv3sz I'm operating from home, cash only, until I can save enough for a B&M. I feel like owning a shop with the stress of debt will, over time, kill your entisiasm and exponenially increase your odds of failing. If you're serious about doing it, you may as well do it right with the highest probability of success.
Thanks for sharing your opinions. Some of your Pokemon opinions I agree with and some I don’t. However, It’s very helpful to hear different opinions to get a bigger picture of what might be happening in the card collecting world.
One thing you don’t get is that Pokémon is the worlds most famous IP. Uncontacted Amazonian tribes collect Pokémon. I think we can end poverty and world hunger by shipping boxes of sealed Pokémon back and forth from Eurasia to North America. Every time a box is sold, GDP is generated. That’s organic growth. Every booster box that’s opened is an opportunity for a new box to be sold to replace it. Someone is going to win a Nobel prize in economics for this 🧠
I'm tired of you Timmies always blaming the "finance bros" for changes in the market. Better watch out, Gamestop and all us finance bros are going to take all those sweet pokeprofits away 😂
Sounds like someone is angry selling less because of competition. But about the finance bros. Holding a boosterbox for 10 years to maybe 2-3x their money will not attract them.
He's not angry that he's selling less he's questioning how people are able to sell products at such cheap prices and still be profitable. When pre-orders were up for Evolving Skies, I bought one for $77.92 with taxes and shipping INCLUDED. Not only do I have the evidence to prove that, but the box was legitimate because I actually pulled a Rayquaza V alt art. Their (and everyone else's) prices aren't that crazy as back then, but they're still selling booster boxes for around $94-$96 with taxes and shipping included. Are they evading the IRS when it comes to this stuff? How are they making money on the boxes? It's a legitimate question to ask when you go down that rabbit hole.
I don't think you were paying attention. He's sitting on a lot of Pokemon and will still have access to more new boxes than finance bros because he built up his allocations with his distributors. He's going to be able to make way more profit than them. He just doesn't like that market because where it eventually leads: people other than him going bankrupt.
@@mikesteve2058those big tcgplayer seller get cheaper than he gets the product, not every distributor gives the same price, and one distributor gives diferent prices for their clients, also tcgplayer can negociate to big sellers to lower fees or agreements, cause both parties gets their cut, thats how their model works, isnt money laundry HAHAHHA he just dont understand
Champions path ETB are not going to $200 you clearly don’t know this market at all and evolving skies packs are not dropping 20% in value. Those packs went up to $14 in the bear market all organic growth
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Im happy that my playgroup decided to just shift around from different tcgs, dodging any being hit by speculator capital. Special thanks to fab,metazoo & the pokemon bubble hoovering up the investor money/attention just in time for the english Wixoss release 🤣
LMAO Not to ruin your perspective on us investor bros but no one here is buying at market height for boxes to invest in most of the time. We are just simply looking to buy at the bottom and in a normal market we get just as good prices as LGSs
During the “bear market” where NOBODY wanted fusion strike - the boxes still went to $250 (now sitting at $225) chilling reign went to $230 / lost origin went to $220 and there was no FOMO. People still want Pokémon and always will. Idk what you mean no movement. Maybe it’s because you are trying to sell all those wack collection boxes on your shelves. Stick to booster boxes and you’ll be fine.
Agreed… you make your money when you buy, not when you sell. Evolving Skies was good at $2.5/ pack… the majority of the ramp up is done, time to offload in tranches.
You will always be able to get collection boxes, booster bundles, sleeves packs, ETB’s it is only booster boxes that are having a “scarcity” issue. Everyone will be able to buy there booster backs for below MSRP it’ll only be booster boxes that are expensive. You can still get everything for Teilight masquerade for below MSRP just not booster boxes because Pokémon center changed the way they are selling and distributing them and putting more attention on the smaller products
I think card grading is absurd. The only exceptions being maybe something like an Alpha Magic card or something similar for other TCGs. But all of the modern cards getting graded is so dumb imo.
I’m going to turn my Pokémon into a business…. 💰. 5-7 year plan. Spend 10k every year, sell NOTHING! Profit in 5-7 years. I’m already up on my investments!!
I have watched $20000 worth of playable magic in my collection turn to less than $10000 over the past ten years, I have seen my $5000 pokemon collection from the same time frame go to over $20000... I agree, never buy cardboard on credit, thats dumb.... But Time in the Market in pokemon has resulted in proof in my bank account. I love Magic and I play magic, I make money in Pokemon and now that I find MTg boring AF to play thanks to all the factors from hasbro, its liquidation time and ill turn it all into Vintage and sealed pokemon, im not spending a penny, rather moving assets around
i mean lets be real honest here... as for the value of mtg vs pokemon... we just dont see any new peoples going into mtg really... yea iknow the pro tour worlds winner last year was young etc but still.. its mainly the same bunch of 40 years old neckbeard fatty virgins that smell shit. ive been to major tournaments from yugioh one piece pokemon and mtg and they all have a good vibe except for mtg... literally feel like everyone is on suicidal watch, wearing huggies and actually dumping in it midgame.
Lol you are way overestimating the "investor" portion of the Pokemon market. Most product is bought and destroyed by kids and casual enthusiasts. The Rudy's of the world make up less than 0.0001% of Pokemon investors. Most "investors" will last 1-2 years before liquidating or opening their own supply and now out. Your videos are no different then investing gurus predicting stock market crashes. Markets are cyclical so expect boom and bust cycles. Short term is noise. Long term is more important.
I agree with all of what you say as I'm a macro long-term investor. I don't trade nor do I speculate. I look for things with deflated value that has utility and take long term positions. I say that to say that it's not fair to deny the opinions of this person simply as a investing guru. He's not angle shooting but clearly scared at a time when people are appearing a bit greedy. If he wasn't standing in front of a tonne of product then I could understand he might be selling advice but to me he's just thinking out loud for the benefit of others. Investing gurus most times don't even own stock or plan to own stock and get paid off the lies that they do and presenting themselves as more than.
For someone who clearly watches Rudy, has a LGS, and access to distributor information and connections to help understand the market you sure have a odd view on investors and our current state of the market.
Let them pull the mortgages and etc, and then they will be forced to sell at a loss and others will scoop it up. Deal with it, and stop complaining about anytime the market is doing 'better' than normal.
I think theres a mindset seeping into people ( myself included) just looking for moonshots because things feel like running on a hamster wheel, tons of effort and no possibility of growth. So people are looking for something they can tell themselves has the possibility of dragging them out of a hole.
Great video man! I think the trap people fall in to when comparing other TCG IP’s to Pokemon is the fact that Pokemon have 4 massive arms to the company (TCG, the video games, the anime and the toys) which stand on their own in terms of popularity. When one of two of these see a down turn the other arms prop them up. - It’s plain to see a massive bubble for Pokemon TCG on the horizon and inevitably a crash, but the others parts of the IP prevent this from becoming terminal.
It only costs like $16 to grade a card at PSA through GameStop now. With all the full tracking and insurance services that PSA normally provide. Also no expensive membership fees, and free delivery if you're a Pro member. Next time you get some cards graded you should try it out and make a video about it, would love to see it!
I agree with most of your points about pokemon. Buying at 170 a box is terrible idea if you are trying to invest. Where I disagree is on the reprints. A charizard in obsidian flames and a charizard in another set might be the same mechanically, but they aren't the same in terms of completing a master set. Completing a set is huge in pokemon, it's one of the things that seperates pokemon from other tcg's.
Always love a good rant about the TCG world. Personally I don’t see cardboard as a desirable investment. Why would I invest $5k or whatever into Pokemon cards when I could put that into my retirement account instead and watch 30 years of compound growth happen.
While i love the pokemon francise I am cautious like you. I loved the time period between SV1 to before 151 and surging sparks started stonking. Growing out my ebay store ive been focused on what I can buy below market and sell at/above market. The excitement/fomo is just makes things harder cuz of noise
Although I would tend to agree with this take, what happens if the individuals involved are not finance bros and truly intend on just buying and holding and any future corrections they plan on buying more? The end user could be just the collector.
Not what I am seeing. That is my whole point to these videos. There is too much money being poured in that is just looking for quick riches nor will stay here past "fairweather". Just look at how many "how to invest in pokemon" videos have popped up in the past month.
Its TCG cardshop simulator. Theres a popular mod that swaps the in game products to pokemon products. The sets being boosted currently are in the game. You cant lose money in that game cracking multiple packs. Also, singles sell quickly and easily.
It's refreshing yet surprising that you feel this way. This cycle does not seem to be your first rodeo. Rather than get all worked up, better to milk the finance bros no? 🤣 Also, I come from Singapore and I'm wondering if we could have a chat on what you mean by boxes from Singapore is cheaper. Our local distributor sells at a substantially higher markup than the US.
…. Supply and Demand it’s that simple. Also the term “non organic” is a bad cop out. Also yes I want the finance bros because they are more financially stable then poor people who think they are flippers and sellers and have to dump everything at a loss when they can’t pay rent and I can come buy cheap boxes
Lgs should be very upset at distributors for sticking them with jank product soaking up $$$ everyday for years on there shelves while that rent is always still due!
Bro Investor types destroy every card game they touch. I remember the sheer amount of damage these kinds of guys did to Flesh and Blood back in 2021, same time as Pokemon popped off. I really wish these guys would just do the sensible thing and invest their money into the stock market. Leave our games alone
The only healthy thing about the game is its game design. The whole ecosystem surrounding the gambling aspect that eclipses everything else is completely unhealthy. The cottage industry of whatnot scamming for example.
You’re not getting an inflow of cash that’s why you made this. Pigs get slaughtered let the newbies lose their money if they didn’t do their due diligence.That’s the way market will continue to prosper. The same way there are winners, there has to be losers
Pokemon knows they do not need the dumb money , their goal is make the game as accessible as possible while making a profit , they know that dumb money down the road is going help with that goal . They are dealing with do we get our collectors to become players and if that does not work how do we get them to make it easier on players problem. Magic knows it needs that dumb money , Wotc is realizing that commander players don't crack packs , and they need players that crack packs . It why they are starting to make a strong push on standard and modern . But all they are getting is diehard will only play magic players , most of your players that would show up for the events locally are off playing something else or Commander and don't feel like investing the resources into the 60 card formats. Their is reason why pokemon is Number 1 in the world , while magic and Yu-gi-oh have a fight on who is going to drop out of the big 3 first.
I buy a ton of pokemon through normal distribution so I get the frustration but I still suggest just selling it for as much as possible when the boom is happening. The number of instore players is so tiny it’s almost not worth worrying about that. Even at $20 a pack my evo skies sells fine.
He definitely comes across as pissy that he can’t get product lol. $15 a pack is nothing , team up is like $75 a pack lol 😂. He big mad he’s gotta buy all those etbs and auxiliary products that he doesn’t want through distribution!! From 1 Kevin to another: relaxxx bro! I showered today! And I promise only to push the little Timmy’s at target, not punch them! Shrouded fable and stellar were underwhelming, this hype has been coming for 6-9 months as soon as this set, the eevee set and team rocket sets were announced!!
When it gets to the stage you mentioned then the bubble is just about to burst. My concern is if there is a global financial crisis / global war then all the man child stuff goes out the window, the Twitch gamers, Pokemon flippers, Bikini babes etc. It all ends in an instant. I don't judge how anyone makes a living but anyone who came of age after the 2008 crisis has only ever experienced the fake reality.
Many if not most people don't know how to handle their money. If you really don't know where to put your money, just put it into some solid ETFs and don't worry about anything before you retire
I don't own pokemon but I'll say this. If you owned before this bull run then you should take some profits. If you believe this will never end then use ur profit to at the very least diversify into things not at all time highs.
Your analysis is 100% spot on here. The Pokemon market is once again being artificially manipulated at the expense of the Timmies, Kimmies, and Poindexters, who are simply too emotionally in love with the product to understand just exactly what is going on. Again, I urge everyone to use caution if you are speculating in modern era product. There are forces at play here that make no justifiable sense, especially given the fact that print runs have increased.
Rogue Deck Builder, I keep going back and forth on agreeing and disagreeing on what you're saying in these recent uploads. Start off disagreeing then I switch to agreement then a combination of the two as you upload. Keep the opinions coming because I've just rediscovered you and I like to hear a differing perspective to mine to learn.
I don't see you responding to anyone here, why would we take the time to feed you counter arguments and spend our personal time to build your data base of info for you to not communicate with your commenters. I have reason(s) but I won't share them using my precious time.
Back then, right after covid, I took the free government money I was getting and invested in Pokémon. Then I 4X'd my money and still have about 1/3 of the collection. The way I see it, is that if I can do it anyone can. Do not be discouraged my friends!
i think that Covid had a massive hit on the English market as there wasn't many cards around at the time so right after covid and printing became popular again it just went to the moon (so to speak.) if you're looking to "invest" fairly safely. focus on PC boxes, sell once they hit 3-4x and then any rare original pokemon cards and eeveeloutions. (151, evolving skies, surging spark pikachus etc)
@King_of_Sofa pokemon center boxes with the promos are best, usually once they're outta stock after a few years the value just goes up. Especially with cards that have the pokemon centre stamp.
Old Pokémon should only be worth more if there’s demand…. How many people want vintage??? 10,000? 100,000?? I’m 37 and couldn’t give a rats ass about vintage. It literally looks like the 90s and that’s not a compliment lol. How many people want modern?? 250 million?? 500 million???? It’s simple supply and demand! Modern is going to overtake some vintage! It’s gaurenteed! Now whether that’s because vintage comes down to meet modern or modern rises up to low vintage market is up for debate. But it will happen.
vintage looks so bad, im 36 too and those cards just dont have any taste, its a flat background with a sticker of a pokemon, or a very nonsense saturated background and a pokemon in middle of the mess, compared to the new arts, vintage isnt appealing, thats why none buys, theres no enough ppl that wants to pay that price for a ugly card, ofc there are exceptions but vast majority arent worth it, most sets dont even have 1 good art
I do invest a small amount in Pokemon. But, I do it by finding deals. For example, I recently purchased 151 booster bundles for $17 from Gamestop (buy 2 get 1 deal). That's something I'll hold on to. Being patient and waiting for those deals or being willing to walk away when I can't find them has treated me very well over time. At worst, I hold some product and can probably sell them for what I bought them for. At best, I make a bit of money 3-5 years down the line. The trouble lies with people who don't have the patience and are willing to buy a new product for double triple the cost when it's printed into oblivion.
Some people get their inventory from distributors cheaper because they spend more money with them? And based on the background of your videos I don't think you have the capital to compete. And based on some of the things you've said, you seem to have a poor mentality. Its because you see things half empty. Sorry but it's true.
I've been a Pokémon fan since the very beginning and in the card market since 2017 and I disagree with most of your takes. But I agree that currently is a very scary situation. I am being very cautious if this hype train mentality continues. I see the covid era returning and - just like you - I don't know why every one's jumping on the hype train again all of a sudden. Edit: One question, what crash are you talking about? I know that people for some reason didn't like the beginning of the SV era and that you could get boxes of Pokémon SV base / Paldean Fates for $90 - $100 for a long time. But that's not what I would call a crash, that's how it should be. You shouldn't see boxes jumping to $150 within the first 1 or 2 years of their life cycle.
Why are you so scared 😂 just don’t buy then? You ask if we want these investor bros in our hobby and if we think it’s good for the franchise as a whole and to that I say yes, it brings value to our products and cards, the fact that people see value in holding products and people buy these products at high prices is good for the hobby. You’re the kind of negative people we don’t want. You’re really getting on people for grading modern cards of there favorite Pokémon? Because they’re just “$20” cards? Look in the mirror bro. You’re the negative cry baby.
*Edit* you need help, get your mental health check. 24 min rant is ONLY going to hurt your business.... If people want to take a mortgage and lose their house, let them, you can buy all their liquidation at the end of the year. SV booster boxes have been bad since release. We are going through a 151 hype, so idk quite understand why we acting this is Covid times and buyers are robbing Targets.
you will *ALL* be begging me to take your booster boxes for $5 each in a few years, but I expect a 50% discount if I buy more than 3. You see, I need cardboard for my paper mache projects I am working on.
If someone conciders going into debt to buy pokemon, they dont need advice. They need financial therapy.
Depends. I would say that is true for people who are just trying to flip without building the business around it. Most small businesses operate on credit. Most of the card shops out there are operating on debt. Debt can be fine if used properly.
@NOLA-vv3sz I'm operating from home, cash only, until I can save enough for a B&M. I feel like owning a shop with the stress of debt will, over time, kill your entisiasm and exponenially increase your odds of failing. If you're serious about doing it, you may as well do it right with the highest probability of success.
There is good debt and bad debt how you leverage risk is really up to you
If its a business you'll have to go into debt unless you just got a ton of cash in the case you probably aren't opening a tcg store
@@fatpanda7608 guh
Thanks for sharing your opinions. Some of your Pokemon opinions I agree with and some I don’t. However, It’s very helpful to hear different opinions to get a bigger picture of what might be happening in the card collecting world.
You can disagree without being nasty about it like he is.
One thing you don’t get is that Pokémon is the worlds most famous IP. Uncontacted Amazonian tribes collect Pokémon.
I think we can end poverty and world hunger by shipping boxes of sealed Pokémon back and forth from Eurasia to North America. Every time a box is sold, GDP is generated. That’s organic growth.
Every booster box that’s opened is an opportunity for a new box to be sold to replace it. Someone is going to win a Nobel prize in economics for this 🧠
you got me in the first half, although in my defense so many people use that argument to justify anything that is hard to know when its bait
I'm tired of you Timmies always blaming the "finance bros" for changes in the market. Better watch out, Gamestop and all us finance bros are going to take all those sweet pokeprofits away 😂
Sounds like someone is angry selling less because of competition. But about the finance bros. Holding a boosterbox for 10 years to maybe 2-3x their money will not attract them.
He's not angry that he's selling less he's questioning how people are able to sell products at such cheap prices and still be profitable. When pre-orders were up for Evolving Skies, I bought one for $77.92 with taxes and shipping INCLUDED. Not only do I have the evidence to prove that, but the box was legitimate because I actually pulled a Rayquaza V alt art. Their (and everyone else's) prices aren't that crazy as back then, but they're still selling booster boxes for around $94-$96 with taxes and shipping included. Are they evading the IRS when it comes to this stuff? How are they making money on the boxes? It's a legitimate question to ask when you go down that rabbit hole.
I don't think you were paying attention. He's sitting on a lot of Pokemon and will still have access to more new boxes than finance bros because he built up his allocations with his distributors. He's going to be able to make way more profit than them. He just doesn't like that market because where it eventually leads: people other than him going bankrupt.
@@mikesteve2058those big tcgplayer seller get cheaper than he gets the product, not every distributor gives the same price, and one distributor gives diferent prices for their clients, also tcgplayer can negociate to big sellers to lower fees or agreements, cause both parties gets their cut, thats how their model works, isnt money laundry HAHAHHA he just dont understand
Champions path ETB are not going to $200 you clearly don’t know this market at all and evolving skies packs are not dropping 20% in value. Those packs went up to $14 in the bear market all organic growth
I blame TCG shop simulator
And the Pokemon Leaks
Wait till Pokemon TCG pocket comes out. More gas on the fire!
I actually wonder how much of it is this.
You like slow and steady, I like boom and bust. I'm aware that 80% of people lose money. I'm aware of the real actual risk and accept it.
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Im happy that my playgroup decided to just shift around from different tcgs, dodging any being hit by speculator capital. Special thanks to fab,metazoo & the pokemon bubble hoovering up the investor money/attention just in time for the english Wixoss release 🤣
LMAO Not to ruin your perspective on us investor bros but no one here is buying at market height for boxes to invest in most of the time. We are just simply looking to buy at the bottom and in a normal market we get just as good prices as LGSs
During the “bear market” where NOBODY wanted fusion strike - the boxes still went to $250 (now sitting at $225) chilling reign went to $230 / lost origin went to $220 and there was no FOMO. People still want Pokémon and always will. Idk what you mean no movement. Maybe it’s because you are trying to sell all those wack collection boxes on your shelves. Stick to booster boxes and you’ll be fine.
Agreed… you make your money when you buy, not when you sell. Evolving Skies was good at $2.5/ pack… the majority of the ramp up is done, time to offload in tranches.
Evolving skies will be 2,500 next Christmas easily.
...i feel you. If anyone is wondering I'll be selling S&V pokemon booster boxes at current market rates ✌️
You will always be able to get collection boxes, booster bundles, sleeves packs, ETB’s it is only booster boxes that are having a “scarcity” issue. Everyone will be able to buy there booster backs for below MSRP it’ll only be booster boxes that are expensive. You can still get everything for Teilight masquerade for below MSRP just not booster boxes because Pokémon center changed the way they are selling and distributing them and putting more attention on the smaller products
I think card grading is absurd. The only exceptions being maybe something like an Alpha Magic card or something similar for other TCGs. But all of the modern cards getting graded is so dumb imo.
It's beanie babies all over again.
I’m going to turn my Pokémon into a business…. 💰. 5-7 year plan. Spend 10k every year, sell NOTHING! Profit in 5-7 years. I’m already up on my investments!!
I have watched $20000 worth of playable magic in my collection turn to less than $10000 over the past ten years, I have seen my $5000 pokemon collection from the same time frame go to over $20000... I agree, never buy cardboard on credit, thats dumb.... But Time in the Market in pokemon has resulted in proof in my bank account. I love Magic and I play magic, I make money in Pokemon and now that I find MTg boring AF to play thanks to all the factors from hasbro, its liquidation time and ill turn it all into Vintage and sealed pokemon, im not spending a penny, rather moving assets around
i mean lets be real honest here... as for the value of mtg vs pokemon... we just dont see any new peoples going into mtg really... yea iknow the pro tour worlds winner last year was young etc but still.. its mainly the same bunch of 40 years old neckbeard fatty virgins that smell shit.
ive been to major tournaments from yugioh one piece pokemon and mtg and they all have a good vibe except for mtg... literally feel like everyone is on suicidal watch, wearing huggies and actually dumping in it midgame.
Lol you are way overestimating the "investor" portion of the Pokemon market. Most product is bought and destroyed by kids and casual enthusiasts. The Rudy's of the world make up less than 0.0001% of Pokemon investors. Most "investors" will last 1-2 years before liquidating or opening their own supply and now out. Your videos are no different then investing gurus predicting stock market crashes. Markets are cyclical so expect boom and bust cycles. Short term is noise. Long term is more important.
I agree with all of what you say as I'm a macro long-term investor. I don't trade nor do I speculate. I look for things with deflated value that has utility and take long term positions.
I say that to say that it's not fair to deny the opinions of this person simply as a investing guru. He's not angle shooting but clearly scared at a time when people are appearing a bit greedy. If he wasn't standing in front of a tonne of product then I could understand he might be selling advice but to me he's just thinking out loud for the benefit of others.
Investing gurus most times don't even own stock or plan to own stock and get paid off the lies that they do and presenting themselves as more than.
It's like the people that pump n dump penny stocks, but with cardboard. They front run then spend a few mil to pump the market then dump it
For someone who clearly watches Rudy, has a LGS, and access to distributor information and connections to help understand the market you sure have a odd view on investors and our current state of the market.
He's actually right on point. What do you mean
9:53 that sounds super fun and i believe that high end vintage pokemon collectors are in the hobby just for fun
Let them pull the mortgages and etc, and then they will be forced to sell at a loss and others will scoop it up. Deal with it, and stop complaining about anytime the market is doing 'better' than normal.
I think theres a mindset seeping into people ( myself included) just looking for moonshots because things feel like running on a hamster wheel, tons of effort and no possibility of growth. So people are looking for something they can tell themselves has the possibility of dragging them out of a hole.
“I don’t wanna compete with the small guy trying to buy and sell” 🤨🧐
Somebody sounds like they can't get there order filled from distro 😂😂😂
I bought my evolving skies boxes at $400 have I already lost now that it’s at $850?
All your previous content is rants, so if this is the final one, what direction will the channel go in the future?
to the moon!
“They start their little basement-selling businesses” he said, stood in his basement 😅
Another rant. Jesus.
Great video man! I think the trap people fall in to when comparing other TCG IP’s to Pokemon is the fact that Pokemon have 4 massive arms to the company (TCG, the video games, the anime and the toys) which stand on their own in terms of popularity. When one of two of these see a down turn the other arms prop them up. - It’s plain to see a massive bubble for Pokemon TCG on the horizon and inevitably a crash, but the others parts of the IP prevent this from becoming terminal.
It only costs like $16 to grade a card at PSA through GameStop now. With all the full tracking and insurance services that PSA normally provide. Also no expensive membership fees, and free delivery if you're a Pro member. Next time you get some cards graded you should try it out and make a video about it, would love to see it!
I agree with most of your points about pokemon. Buying at 170 a box is terrible idea if you are trying to invest.
Where I disagree is on the reprints. A charizard in obsidian flames and a charizard in another set might be the same mechanically, but they aren't the same in terms of completing a master set. Completing a set is huge in pokemon, it's one of the things that seperates pokemon from other tcg's.
Always love a good rant about the TCG world. Personally I don’t see cardboard as a desirable investment. Why would I invest $5k or whatever into Pokemon cards when I could put that into my retirement account instead and watch 30 years of compound growth happen.
I enjoyed both this video and your last one.
While i love the pokemon francise I am cautious like you. I loved the time period between SV1 to before 151 and surging sparks started stonking. Growing out my ebay store ive been focused on what I can buy below market and sell at/above market. The excitement/fomo is just makes things harder cuz of noise
Although I would tend to agree with this take, what happens if the individuals involved are not finance bros and truly intend on just buying and holding and any future corrections they plan on buying more? The end user could be just the collector.
Not what I am seeing. That is my whole point to these videos. There is too much money being poured in that is just looking for quick riches nor will stay here past "fairweather".
Just look at how many "how to invest in pokemon" videos have popped up in the past month.
Its TCG cardshop simulator. Theres a popular mod that swaps the in game products to pokemon products. The sets being boosted currently are in the game.
You cant lose money in that game cracking multiple packs. Also, singles sell quickly and easily.
It's refreshing yet surprising that you feel this way. This cycle does not seem to be your first rodeo.
Rather than get all worked up, better to milk the finance bros no? 🤣
Also, I come from Singapore and I'm wondering if we could have a chat on what you mean by boxes from Singapore is cheaper. Our local distributor sells at a substantially higher markup than the US.
Selling online is way better than than paying for an LGS.
7:12 THANK YOU for this i tell this to people all the time and investor bros get offended
I’ve seen graded Pokémon cards that are $1.00 raw
Expect to see more, the Gamestop thing is set to fleece kids on an monumental level.
…. Supply and Demand it’s that simple. Also the term “non organic” is a bad cop out. Also yes I want the finance bros because they are more financially stable then poor people who think they are flippers and sellers and have to dump everything at a loss when they can’t pay rent and I can come buy cheap boxes
I can't comment on GTS but Southern Hobby is incredibly respectful to stores from what I've experienced with them.
Any distributor I've ever worked with asked for minimum 20k upfront. Takes money to make money.
Lgs should be very upset at distributors for sticking them with jank product soaking up $$$ everyday for years on there shelves while that rent is always still due!
Bro Investor types destroy every card game they touch. I remember the sheer amount of damage these kinds of guys did to Flesh and Blood back in 2021, same time as Pokemon popped off. I really wish these guys would just do the sensible thing and invest their money into the stock market. Leave our games alone
be smart and take advantage of that ppl, make money
Excellent content. I got burned big time in 2021.....I know now to sell when the Market is hot and buy when no one cares.
Man with outdated failing business model complains about people who make more money than him.
The only healthy thing about the game is its game design. The whole ecosystem surrounding the gambling aspect that eclipses everything else is completely unhealthy. The cottage industry of whatnot scamming for example.
You’re not getting an inflow of cash that’s why you made this. Pigs get slaughtered let the newbies lose their money if they didn’t do their due diligence.That’s the way market will continue to prosper. The same way there are winners, there has to be losers
THIS VIDEO IS RIGHT ON POINT... yea this market is honestly just hype and poketubers pushing propaganda
Pokemon knows they do not need the dumb money , their goal is make the game as accessible as possible while making a profit , they know that dumb money down the road is going help with that goal . They are dealing with do we get our collectors to become players and if that does not work how do we get them to make it easier on players problem.
Magic knows it needs that dumb money , Wotc is realizing that commander players don't crack packs , and they need players that crack packs . It why they are starting to make a strong push on standard and modern . But all they are getting is diehard will only play magic players , most of your players that would show up for the events locally are off playing something else or Commander and don't feel like investing the resources into the 60 card formats. Their is reason why pokemon is Number 1 in the world , while magic and Yu-gi-oh have a fight on who is going to drop out of the big 3 first.
I buy a ton of pokemon through normal distribution so I get the frustration but I still suggest just selling it for as much as possible when the boom is happening. The number of instore players is so tiny it’s almost not worth worrying about that. Even at $20 a pack my evo skies sells fine.
He definitely comes across as pissy that he can’t get product lol. $15 a pack is nothing , team up is like $75 a pack lol 😂. He big mad he’s gotta buy all those etbs and auxiliary products that he doesn’t want through distribution!!
From 1 Kevin to another: relaxxx bro! I showered today! And I promise only to push the little Timmy’s at target, not punch them!
Shrouded fable and stellar were underwhelming, this hype has been coming for 6-9 months as soon as this set, the eevee set and team rocket sets were announced!!
When it gets to the stage you mentioned then the bubble is just about to burst. My concern is if there is a global financial crisis / global war then all the man child stuff goes out the window, the Twitch gamers, Pokemon flippers, Bikini babes etc. It all ends in an instant. I don't judge how anyone makes a living but anyone who came of age after the 2008 crisis has only ever experienced the fake reality.
Yes I want the bro money 🤑💰💰💰 it's the way of it in housing, stocks, start up etc etc
Many if not most people don't know how to handle their money. If you really don't know where to put your money, just put it into some solid ETFs and don't worry about anything before you retire
I don't own pokemon but I'll say this. If you owned before this bull run then you should take some profits. If you believe this will never end then use ur profit to at the very least diversify into things not at all time highs.
dang uploading in the middle of the night lol
Damn where's the singapore pokemon box @ $40. Can't find them here anywhere.
Me who just bought as much during the crash as i comfortably could and now my collection has STONKED
Your analysis is 100% spot on here. The Pokemon market is once again being artificially manipulated at the expense of the Timmies, Kimmies, and Poindexters, who are simply too emotionally in love with the product to understand just exactly what is going on. Again, I urge everyone to use caution if you are speculating in modern era product. There are forces at play here that make no justifiable sense, especially given the fact that print runs have increased.
I hate grading too but I get why people want every charizard from base set to new charizard graded. That’s all they care about. Not playing the card.
Good take. Good rant. Unless you literally have a game store cards are a hobby.
you lost me at 40% inflation in 3 years, where is that figure coming from?
Hasn't Pokémon always been a craze and a bubble though. Look back at the initial release of the tcg. Same thing as now minus the grading craze.
Rogue Deck Builder, I keep going back and forth on agreeing and disagreeing on what you're saying in these recent uploads. Start off disagreeing then I switch to agreement then a combination of the two as you upload. Keep the opinions coming because I've just rediscovered you and I like to hear a differing perspective to mine to learn.
the finance bros will ruin Pokemon long term
I don't see you responding to anyone here, why would we take the time to feed you counter arguments and spend our personal time to build your data base of info for you to not communicate with your commenters. I have reason(s) but I won't share them using my precious time.
You used your precious time to make a nothingburger comment...
@@GoneRogueGames yes I anticipated this comment. And the above comment was worth my time, nothing more.
Should I Open it or Keep it sealed. That going viral with middle aged men is what caused the current market.
What's with the insults? You just seem very bitter about this.
Back then, right after covid, I took the free government money I was getting and invested in Pokémon. Then I 4X'd my money and still have about 1/3 of the collection. The way I see it, is that if I can do it anyone can. Do not be discouraged my friends!
i think that Covid had a massive hit on the English market as there wasn't many cards around at the time so right after covid and printing became popular again it just went to the moon (so to speak.)
if you're looking to "invest" fairly safely. focus on PC boxes, sell once they hit 3-4x and then any rare original pokemon cards and eeveeloutions. (151, evolving skies, surging spark pikachus etc)
@@2Balendin2 that makes sense. That's good financial advice
@King_of_Sofa pokemon center boxes with the promos are best, usually once they're outta stock after a few years the value just goes up. Especially with cards that have the pokemon centre stamp.
Hey man , fellow Kevin here. I understand you. You’re speaking facts but these days I’m sure you see people hate facts ya know ?
Old Pokémon should only be worth more if there’s demand…. How many people want vintage??? 10,000? 100,000?? I’m 37 and couldn’t give a rats ass about vintage. It literally looks like the 90s and that’s not a compliment lol.
How many people want modern?? 250 million?? 500 million???? It’s simple supply and demand! Modern is going to overtake some vintage! It’s gaurenteed! Now whether that’s because vintage comes down to meet modern or modern rises up to low vintage market is up for debate. But it will happen.
vintage looks so bad, im 36 too and those cards just dont have any taste, its a flat background with a sticker of a pokemon, or a very nonsense saturated background and a pokemon in middle of the mess, compared to the new arts, vintage isnt appealing, thats why none buys, theres no enough ppl that wants to pay that price for a ugly card, ofc there are exceptions but vast majority arent worth it, most sets dont even have 1 good art
I do invest a small amount in Pokemon. But, I do it by finding deals. For example, I recently purchased 151 booster bundles for $17 from Gamestop (buy 2 get 1 deal). That's something I'll hold on to. Being patient and waiting for those deals or being willing to walk away when I can't find them has treated me very well over time. At worst, I hold some product and can probably sell them for what I bought them for. At best, I make a bit of money 3-5 years down the line. The trouble lies with people who don't have the patience and are willing to buy a new product for double triple the cost when it's printed into oblivion.
No one grades MTG, everyone grades Pokémon and makes money....your stuck in your bubble, and can not see past your love of MTG as it dies.
I can't tell if this is a troll or not. 🤣 If not a troll, you're clueless.
Some people get their inventory from distributors cheaper because they spend more money with them? And based on the background of your videos I don't think you have the capital to compete. And based on some of the things you've said, you seem to have a poor mentality. Its because you see things half empty. Sorry but it's true.
I've been a Pokémon fan since the very beginning and in the card market since 2017 and I disagree with most of your takes.
But I agree that currently is a very scary situation. I am being very cautious if this hype train mentality continues. I see the covid era returning and - just like you - I don't know why every one's jumping on the hype train again all of a sudden.
Edit: One question, what crash are you talking about? I know that people for some reason didn't like the beginning of the SV era and that you could get boxes of Pokémon SV base / Paldean Fates for $90 - $100 for a long time. But that's not what I would call a crash, that's how it should be. You shouldn't see boxes jumping to $150 within the first 1 or 2 years of their life cycle.
Why are you so scared 😂 just don’t buy then? You ask if we want these investor bros in our hobby and if we think it’s good for the franchise as a whole and to that I say yes, it brings value to our products and cards, the fact that people see value in holding products and people buy these products at high prices is good for the hobby. You’re the kind of negative people we don’t want. You’re really getting on people for grading modern cards of there favorite Pokémon? Because they’re just “$20” cards? Look in the mirror bro. You’re the negative cry baby.
*Edit* you need help, get your mental health check. 24 min rant is ONLY going to hurt your business....
If people want to take a mortgage and lose their house, let them, you can buy all their liquidation at the end of the year.
SV booster boxes have been bad since release.
We are going through a 151 hype, so idk quite understand why we acting this is Covid times and buyers are robbing Targets.
you will *ALL* be begging me to take your booster boxes for $5 each in a few years, but I expect a 50% discount if I buy more than 3. You see, I need cardboard for my paper mache projects I am working on.