This game is relentless with throwing new classes at you almost every other battle. A part of me loves it, but the other part is me theory crafting and swaping up my units every time too lol..
I found myself swapping and trying out new characters so often that it wasn't until I was deep into Drakenhold that I realized I had accidentally dropped Alain
I could tell swordfighter was good and basically got how it wanted to be built, but was struggling to find good team comps that support it + feeling like vs. some other other classes it had less ways to generate more AP for attacks unless you figure out how to get her parrying consistently without risk. Good to see it working here
Great flex class I pair with Scarlett and archer for a self sufficient, speedy assassin squad. Add a soldier with the true strike spear or a knight for faster movement at the cost of worse gryphon matchups. So many possibilities opened up with this class and it helps that the uniques are all cuties too
My main carry team is two great knights and a radiant knight in the back row while a armor holds the front. The cavs just keep buffing themselves so much that even enemy hoplights just get punched though especially since they infantry units for double damage and if there is magic the radiant knight negates it. Hasten call them on a road and they're zooming as well.
First impression so far is that Swordfighter/master are really good because the only thing swords lacks so far is true strike, which this class comes with, so now it covers any enemy type pretty well.
I combine 2-3 sword masters in the front with 1 mage in the back to buff every attack of the sword master with 50 magic potency which allows the sword masters to kill tanks and 1 vanguard in the back that only blocks arrows which are shot at the front row and he also has an accessory that buffs the entire row damage and crit damage at the cost of accuracy (what you showed just for the entire row) so the front row gets all these buffs cant miss does normal and magic damage and crits, if ill be able to added a 6 unit it would probably be the shaman to reduce the defense of the enemy.
Yep. But considering that different attscks have different animations already is a pretty huge deal for a 2d game. FE only started to go crazy with variations once they hit their stride with 3d in Awakening. And even then it was limited. Engage was beautiful though.
I am currently running 2 sword masters front row and 3 Landsknecht back row. 2 Landsknecht help with ranged blocking. I am thinking of going with 2 sword masters, 2 Landsknecht, and Gilbert.
I love the class, but my biggest problem, though easily fixed with the right support, is that their crit damage is equal to, sometimes less than, other DPS's regular hit. But since they have so many other things going for them, its easy to overlook that.
Yeah it's pretty sad to crit on Artenie strike and do like 12dmg against Knight or 1dmg against a Hoplite. Basically anything with serviceable defense can just tank your hit. I prefer Sellswords for their more dependable damage
I mean, would it be an SRPG if the Swordmaster class wasn't OP? A dodge tank that one shots everything with crits has been the Fire Emblem staple for as long as I can remember. You even have the same old trick of switching to a specific weapon to get through armored units (Runic Sword for this game, Rapier/Levin Sword for Fire Emblem).
Why don`t you use meteor strike? It deals INSANE damage against non-armored targets (unless they block it, but there are ways around it). If you hit for 20 nine times, it's almost 200 damage at once. Swordmaster is also my favorite class, by far, because it`s not obvious, but super powerful if used well. They like going together with classes that protect them, particularly against magic and arrows, as well as buffs. Some examples: 1) 2 swordmasters, Gilbert (prince), Ithilion (elven fencer) and Yahna (witch). This is the comp I'm currently using. Ithilion protects them from arrows (and has good damage), Yahna punishes guards with the guard counter staff, freezes things and protects them from magic with the appropriate pendant, and Gilbert buffs everyone's initiative AND attack. I gave one draken sword for each SM so that they go AFTER the prince and benefit from the buff (plus they get one extra PP). 2) 2 swordmasters, Selvie (shaman), Ithilion and Josef/Sainted Knight. This is the comp I'm leaning towards right now as I approach level 25, since Selvie will do the exact opposite of the prince: debuff the enemies' initiative (with the swamp ability) and their defense, with the bonus of adding guard seal, which will further help the SMs slay; while Josef/Sainted Knight will inherently protect them from magic and heal them. 3) THREE swordmasters (all the story ones) with Ithilion and Josef/Sainted Knight. You take out the buff/debuff part, so you'll need to rely more on equipment swapping to deal with armor specifically. But Ithilion can buff them with any book (preferably the freeze one) against armor, and the sainted knight and the swordmasters themselves can just use a magic damage sword to go through armor. 4) You can also use only one swordmaster, put Ithilion in the front row alongside them and reinstate the buffing section of the comp. But then I think it wouldn't be as fun haha. I think comp 2 has the biggest potential, but 1 and 3 are just as fun!
I just got Leah no idea where to get Melisandre assume it is in the elven area. Leah has Go-Getter and Lucky which seems really good for more crit and initiative.
@@someguy1ification you need to use Alain once at least to get Melisandre, the dude probably missed her already^^, since Melisandre should be found before Leah.
You can make it tankier, just need to put effort on the tanking side of his build instead of building it like a damage dealer (whish is seems OP till you one-shot things, but as soon as you don't anymore, you die). I gave it the gauntlets PHY DEF with the skill to parry the arrows, I gave a Luck Coin (or Thief's mantle if you got an evasion sword and PP), than you need to choice between PP sword, Evasion sword, Kingsblade (stats), sacral sword (anti-poison/fire and regen when attacking, the swordmaster attacks so much), full HP stats.
Bro your Melisandre has like 53 Atk at lvl 22, likely due to dews I am assuming. A vanilla Melisandre does paper thin damage despite buffs and crits due to mediocre atk. This becomes noticable once you enter Elfheim. Only good for taking out squishys and dodge tanks, good niche but pales in comparison to other powerhouses like knights with cav buffs, sellswords with natural high atk, heck even Griffons with multi attacks. Also parry is really inferior to other ap charging killing setup skills. Maybe salvagable by running a squad of Swordfighters/Swordmasters and have the best offense which equals defence. But that does beat the whole parry ap charge niche which is lame.
Offence doesn't equal defence. It does only till you one-shot things, when things don't get one-shotted for whatever reason you need actual def if you want def.
There are a subgroup of people who really love Swordmasters (or similar type of unit) and a subgroup of people that absolutely HATE Swordmasters and will actively attempt to downplay them. It's incredibly odd, and it sounds stupid just typing it. I think it's some weird combination of 80-katana hype backlash, plus a preference for heavy armor and a disdain for mastery of swords... because "swords are overrated." I know, it's weird. For example, I made a case about how Swordmasters were a great unit in Tactics Ogre and in Fire Emblem: Three Houses. I was bombarded with name-calling, attacks on my intelligence, strawman arguments, and the communities of these games "agreed" that the Swordmaster was weak. Lo and behold, the master of everything Tactics Ogre (he's spent years of time playing the original and the two remakes; thousands of hours of videos and much more time played) and after a huge amount of experimentation, put Swordmaster in the "A" tier: the second-highest rank a class could attain. I was overjoyed to be vindicated. Many of my original ideas worked, and as it turns out the Swordmaster is a valuable unit in any Tactics Ogre roster. The haters crawled back into their holes, or simply pretended they never said anything negative about the class. So don't let the occasional hater bring you down. There are weirdos out there with strong opinions but weak reasoning. Liked, subbed, and following your content. Keep up the great work!
In the 90 hours ive played on tactician mode swordmasters just keep disappointing me in terms of damage and tanking. Too squishy on the front line and not doing enough damage to justify putting in the back line.
lol sure use a 25 damage weapon against lv20 enemies is OP. SM really isn’t that good late game, not doing nearly enough damage compared to a sellsword
This game is relentless with throwing new classes at you almost every other battle. A part of me loves it, but the other part is me theory crafting and swaping up my units every time too lol..
I found myself swapping and trying out new characters so often that it wasn't until I was deep into Drakenhold that I realized I had accidentally dropped Alain
Everything feels good
you know a class is good when it has S at 4 different stats, and Melisandre looks dope as a swordmaster
I could tell swordfighter was good and basically got how it wanted to be built, but was struggling to find good team comps that support it + feeling like vs. some other other classes it had less ways to generate more AP for attacks unless you figure out how to get her parrying consistently without risk. Good to see it working here
exact same boat
Great flex class I pair with Scarlett and archer for a self sufficient, speedy assassin squad. Add a soldier with the true strike spear or a knight for faster movement at the cost of worse gryphon matchups. So many possibilities opened up with this class and it helps that the uniques are all cuties too
Two swordfighters and two thieves with gambler coin were my mvps during late Cornia and Drakenhold
great idea, gonna try this
I like using these with the witch. The witch passive also lets this class maul armored characters.
and you can abuse teleport to get your busted unit where it needs to be
My main carry team is two great knights and a radiant knight in the back row while a armor holds the front. The cavs just keep buffing themselves so much that even enemy hoplights just get punched though especially since they infantry units for double damage and if there is magic the radiant knight negates it. Hasten call them on a road and they're zooming as well.
First impression so far is that Swordfighter/master are really good because the only thing swords lacks so far is true strike, which this class comes with, so now it covers any enemy type pretty well.
I combine 2-3 sword masters in the front with 1 mage in the back to buff every attack of the sword master with 50 magic potency which allows the sword masters to kill tanks and 1 vanguard in the back that only blocks arrows which are shot at the front row and he also has an accessory that buffs the entire row damage and crit damage at the cost of accuracy (what you showed just for the entire row) so the front row gets all these buffs cant miss does normal and magic damage and crits, if ill be able to added a 6 unit it would probably be the shaman to reduce the defense of the enemy.
I did Gilbert and Selvie with sandstorm in the back row lol
Awesome video. Is there every a time that you have meteor slash or impale active or is it just Gambler Coin boosted Keen Edge all day?
maybe the play is to run two sword masters and have the slower one run artemie strike if the damage isn’t enough for a refresh
How do you get your menu to show the background of the map?
i'm now realizing that this game is missing special crit animations.
or maybe i've just been spoiled by fire emblem
Yep. But considering that different attscks have different animations already is a pretty huge deal for a 2d game. FE only started to go crazy with variations once they hit their stride with 3d in Awakening. And even then it was limited. Engage was beautiful though.
What are the best two growth paths to choose when hiring one as a merc?
I am currently running 2 sword masters front row and 3 Landsknecht back row. 2 Landsknecht help with ranged blocking.
I am thinking of going with 2 sword masters, 2 Landsknecht, and Gilbert.
Melisandre, Leah or Aramis?? Cant choose 😅
I love the class, but my biggest problem, though easily fixed with the right support, is that their crit damage is equal to, sometimes less than, other DPS's regular hit. But since they have so many other things going for them, its easy to overlook that.
Yeah it's pretty sad to crit on Artenie strike and do like 12dmg against Knight or 1dmg against a Hoplite. Basically anything with serviceable defense can just tank your hit. I prefer Sellswords for their more dependable damage
You can crit on Runic Blade vs armored
Tbh prince, dark marquis and crusader are by far the most broken infantry unit. Everything else seems pretty balanced when compared to those 3.
I'm interested to know how you would build a Breaker. I feel like they're a bit underpowered, but is there a way to make Kitra the MVP in a team?
I wish there was a guide on where to recruit everyone. I found one but all it says is like complete this quest. Where is this quest? Doesnt say.
What's your other main team, you mentioned this been your second team
These videos would be a lot more future proof if you mentioned what you would do with a fifth unit. Just a thought.
I mean, would it be an SRPG if the Swordmaster class wasn't OP? A dodge tank that one shots everything with crits has been the Fire Emblem staple for as long as I can remember. You even have the same old trick of switching to a specific weapon to get through armored units (Runic Sword for this game, Rapier/Levin Sword for Fire Emblem).
Why don`t you use meteor strike? It deals INSANE damage against non-armored targets (unless they block it, but there are ways around it). If you hit for 20 nine times, it's almost 200 damage at once. Swordmaster is also my favorite class, by far, because it`s not obvious, but super powerful if used well. They like going together with classes that protect them, particularly against magic and arrows, as well as buffs. Some examples:
1) 2 swordmasters, Gilbert (prince), Ithilion (elven fencer) and Yahna (witch). This is the comp I'm currently using. Ithilion protects them from arrows (and has good damage), Yahna punishes guards with the guard counter staff, freezes things and protects them from magic with the appropriate pendant, and Gilbert buffs everyone's initiative AND attack. I gave one draken sword for each SM so that they go AFTER the prince and benefit from the buff (plus they get one extra PP).
2) 2 swordmasters, Selvie (shaman), Ithilion and Josef/Sainted Knight. This is the comp I'm leaning towards right now as I approach level 25, since Selvie will do the exact opposite of the prince: debuff the enemies' initiative (with the swamp ability) and their defense, with the bonus of adding guard seal, which will further help the SMs slay; while Josef/Sainted Knight will inherently protect them from magic and heal them.
3) THREE swordmasters (all the story ones) with Ithilion and Josef/Sainted Knight. You take out the buff/debuff part, so you'll need to rely more on equipment swapping to deal with armor specifically. But Ithilion can buff them with any book (preferably the freeze one) against armor, and the sainted knight and the swordmasters themselves can just use a magic damage sword to go through armor.
4) You can also use only one swordmaster, put Ithilion in the front row alongside them and reinstate the buffing section of the comp. But then I think it wouldn't be as fun haha.
I think comp 2 has the biggest potential, but 1 and 3 are just as fun!
Swordmaster has single target damage in a game where good classes can row/column/board attack.
GG ez
I'll be intrerested to hear his thoughts on the build past elfheim. I've been trying to make it work but she's just too squishy to solo tank for me.
MELIGOD (where's the dino emote)
I just got Leah no idea where to get Melisandre assume it is in the elven area. Leah has Go-Getter and Lucky which seems really good for more crit and initiative.
She's not in the elf territory
Melisandre's mission is north from the mission to rescue Scarlett
@@someguy1ification you need to use Alain once at least to get Melisandre, the dude probably missed her already^^, since Melisandre should be found before Leah.
@@_TND_ eh, mel's mission is optional, and the quest markers point you away from it. he totally coulda missed it when going from Cornia to Drakenhold.
Frontline swordfighter only works in early game late game it will just die instantly high colosseum aka lvl 40+ will not cut it.
You can make it tankier, just need to put effort on the tanking side of his build instead of building it like a damage dealer (whish is seems OP till you one-shot things, but as soon as you don't anymore, you die). I gave it the gauntlets PHY DEF with the skill to parry the arrows, I gave a Luck Coin (or Thief's mantle if you got an evasion sword and PP), than you need to choice between PP sword, Evasion sword, Kingsblade (stats), sacral sword (anti-poison/fire and regen when attacking, the swordmaster attacks so much), full HP stats.
Slap on some magick conferals and yiure gucci
Bro your Melisandre has like 53 Atk at lvl 22, likely due to dews I am assuming. A vanilla Melisandre does paper thin damage despite buffs and crits due to mediocre atk. This becomes noticable once you enter Elfheim. Only good for taking out squishys and dodge tanks, good niche but pales in comparison to other powerhouses like knights with cav buffs, sellswords with natural high atk, heck even Griffons with multi attacks. Also parry is really inferior to other ap charging killing setup skills. Maybe salvagable by running a squad of Swordfighters/Swordmasters and have the best offense which equals defence. But that does beat the whole parry ap charge niche which is lame.
Offence doesn't equal defence. It does only till you one-shot things, when things don't get one-shotted for whatever reason you need actual def if you want def.
There are a subgroup of people who really love Swordmasters (or similar type of unit) and a subgroup of people that absolutely HATE Swordmasters and will actively attempt to downplay them. It's incredibly odd, and it sounds stupid just typing it. I think it's some weird combination of 80-katana hype backlash, plus a preference for heavy armor and a disdain for mastery of swords... because "swords are overrated." I know, it's weird.
For example, I made a case about how Swordmasters were a great unit in Tactics Ogre and in Fire Emblem: Three Houses. I was bombarded with name-calling, attacks on my intelligence, strawman arguments, and the communities of these games "agreed" that the Swordmaster was weak.
Lo and behold, the master of everything Tactics Ogre (he's spent years of time playing the original and the two remakes; thousands of hours of videos and much more time played) and after a huge amount of experimentation, put Swordmaster in the "A" tier: the second-highest rank a class could attain. I was overjoyed to be vindicated. Many of my original ideas worked, and as it turns out the Swordmaster is a valuable unit in any Tactics Ogre roster.
The haters crawled back into their holes, or simply pretended they never said anything negative about the class.
So don't let the occasional hater bring you down. There are weirdos out there with strong opinions but weak reasoning.
Liked, subbed, and following your content. Keep up the great work!
Rise up swordmaster lovers!
In the 90 hours ive played on tactician mode swordmasters just keep disappointing me in terms of damage and tanking. Too squishy on the front line and not doing enough damage to justify putting in the back line.
SECOND
lol sure use a 25 damage weapon against lv20 enemies is OP. SM really isn’t that good late game, not doing nearly enough damage compared to a sellsword
Swordmaster is literally the worst class in the game next to fighter