I love these teaching videos! Vladimir P. told me about them. I temporarily memorize 5-10% of the excellent content, then rush out to teach my 14-year old, pretending it came from years of hard-won expertise through petsonal experience. Thanks!
excellent! he'll treat you like a god until he finds out lol. seriously, it's great you have something to share with your son, it can be hard for some parents to find any common ground with their kids through the teenage years.
I find most ppl are too afraid to be anywhere near the front brake on corner entry when in actual fact trailing into the first third of the corner with 5 to 20% brake or so helps the bike turn in so much better as the front end is loader up, forks are compressed, rake angle decreases and wheel base is decreased which gives a real confidence inspiring sharp turn in... takes practice of course if u aren't use to it. Love the vids mate.
I started doing hare scrambles a few months ago on a yz125 with no front brakes. Seeing you guys stop this fast makes me think i should get a new master cylinder lol
I've got the same sort of "encouraged to use 1 finger" front brake lever on my bike, it's a free mod, called "gravity" and finished off with a "grinder".
Good video. In MSF (motorcycle safety course) for street license in the US. They teach slow, head turn, press, lean and roll. Slow before entering the corner. Turn your head to look through the corner. Press on the bar to initiate the lean. Lean and slowly roll on the throttle as you exit the corner. Applies nicely to dirt as well as you mentioned. They also teach what your talking about what your talking about with braking to use both front and rear brakes so slow quicker. Also applies to dirt.
Barry, yet another fantastic video! Your presentation skills have become master level.If you could combine dangerous animals into all of this, you could probably make millions.
cheers dagster. i think i've already go the dangerous animals covered, some of my riding buddies get pretty aggressive if they haven't had a beer before the ride. :(
Great vid. Large aircraft max brake with antiskid (depending on conditions) to max perform the brakes. That's exactly what you simulate by braking at the limit of skidding on a dirtbike, max performing the brakes!
At the top of steep downhills, I like to quickly jab the front brake (untill it briefly locks) to gauge the grip level I'll likely have for that run down the hill. Don't be afraid of the front brake peoples 🙂
i thought it was the same technique... mind you it might explain why i keep banging up my kneecap hanging off the bike and dragging my inside knee along the dirt. :(
Well duh, of cource it is a different thing😂 But what i was trying to say is that there are alot of people who think everything related to motorcycles etc. is the same and when he/she said that he/she uses 95% front brake i thought that he/she is that kind of person.... that's why i said the obvious thing "dirt riding different compared to street riding"😅👍🏼
I really enjoy these skill specific videos Barry. The basics are so complex! These type of videos in your series keep me motivated to improve. Thank you. Headed over to become a supporter after mooching for about 10 months.
not sure if it would ever happen. i gave up chasing manufacturers for bikes to review a long time ago, most never respond. only SWM and gas gas did.... eventually.
I need to find a rear hand brake set up for my quad, not being able to use the standard foot pedal at all and having the clutch lever also as a rear/ parking brake lever isn’t ideal In some situations if you need both at same time
I found swapping from the 'standard' wave rotor to a solid pattern 'mud' disc helped immensely. You're not short on stopping power in your foot, but the extra pressure needed to lock up on the solid rotor compared to the wave gave far more feel.
@@ctonefar Since the sides of the rotor are the friction surfaces--the ONLY ones--why would the outer contour of "the wave rotor" have ANY effect on braking output, for a given amount of brake pedal pressure?
@@1TruePatriot It's not so much the outer contour, rather the lack of cross-drilled holes/slots in mud discs. Picture the full area of a brake pad being say 8 square centimeters; now two brake discs - one is just round, no wave and no holes; the other is a wave disc with plenty of holes (say a full 30% of the metal removed verses the solid disc, with the outer edge of the 'wave' matching up with the outer area of the pad). If you can put 20kg of 'force' onto your rear brake lever, then thats 20kg of force into the disc from the pads (I'm pulling numbers out of thin air here, but you get the idea). now, with 30% of the metal missing under the footprint of the brake pad on the wave disc compared to the solid (each of the holes is a 'void' that the pad cant press against), then there is more pressure and more 'grip' for the pads to bite with (you've got 20kg pushing against an area of 5.5cm instead of 8cm. Think force vs area; why a hammer will leave a little dint in a piece of wood, but will drive a nail right through it). On a road bike, this is great, more stopping power! But on the rear brake of an offroad bike, it's far too easy to apply too much pressure and lock it up, especially on loose downhills. But fit a solid/mud disc, and you have to apply far more pressure to lock up the rear, which gives you a more progressive feel to learn rear brake control. Hope this clears it up! :)
My old honda engine brakes like crazy, so much braking in first or second it almost throws me forward when I let off the throttle if I dont havethe clutch in
lol that's how my yfz450r is. sometimes I ha e too look down thinking I'm draging my rear brake! lol. but I'm also still braking in and getting used to riding with boots.
Love the vids! Question: fairly new off road rider. Here. Have a stock wr250r. Def no mechanic! clutch and to lesser extent front brake are way too stiff for this one finger method. Suggestions? Thanks! 🖕🏼😇
Do you hold the clutch in when downshifting? For example, if you needed to come to a quick stop you would get off the gas--> clutch in--> downshift --> front and rear break
About time...its been all go go go, up up up, down down down, go left, swing right, punch that log, overtake that Gas Gas rider holding up everyone on the single....finally we get to learn how to come to a halt and enjoy the serenity....and the smell of 2 stroke 😋
I went on a few rides with my rear master cylinder not working Ever since I hardly use my rear brake anymore. Only time I use my rear brake as when I want to slide . Also this is on a quad not a bike
Of course no has ever engine braked a 2 stroke street or road race bike, or a flat track bike. Not to mention all the 2 stroke diesel truck engines thru the decades. This horse shit of, don't engine brake a 2 stroke is horse shit. The cylinder is still getting some fuel in it at idle speed. If it seizes up you weren't running enough oil in your fuel to start with.
50% offroad rider here, but on a big boy bike ;). Does everything in this video translate a 100% to an ADV bike with a drum on the rear? I do have some proper road legal knobbies on the bike.
nah we had fairly poor audio quality for the interview but also colton was way too serious and frankly it wouldn't have been an interesting interview. :(
Good luck in contacting them. Terrible customer service! I’ve called, emailed and left texts asking about possible hydraulic rear brake for my Nissin brakes….they may have the cable set up and not sure if they will fit but the hydro system looks more promising. Absolutely no response or replies. They’re in Utah. May have drive up and drop in next time in SLC.
Gotcha. Years back I rode a bike with the Ox-brake but you really had to haul on that lever to get any braking. My fingers are getting too old for that kind of workout lol. I rode a bike with the Clake SLR which was brilliant. Very easy to lock up the rear wheel if needed, plenty of feel and control.
@@e.e9331 basically 2 stroke engines do not have valves, 4 strokes does. This produces a gas flow restriction in 4 strokes engines which is strong enough to slow down the vehicle substencially. 2 stroke will only slow you down due to friction of the different components, but this force is very very weak en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_braking
4:56, I’m pretty confused. Surely you can’t let the clutch be engaged the entirety of the time without allowing a little bit of slippage, right? Aren’t you just gonna stall the engine like that? Like I’m sure you need some clutch modulation, no? I’m very new to all this sort of thing
@@crosstrainingenduro Ah okay, gotcha lol. I figured that’s what y’all meant, was just confused by the wording. Great video though nonetheless! Y’all are very helpful
a shame kyle. it can make such a difference, i remember a uni lecturer in the dreaded snozzy 1pm to 2pm lecture slot who would crack jokes when everyone started napping. best lectures ever....
I'm watching your videos AND are THE top rider in my house.
I love these teaching videos! Vladimir P. told me about them. I temporarily memorize 5-10% of the excellent content, then rush out to teach my 14-year old, pretending it came from years of hard-won expertise through petsonal experience. Thanks!
excellent! he'll treat you like a god until he finds out lol. seriously, it's great you have something to share with your son, it can be hard for some parents to find any common ground with their kids through the teenage years.
I have good control on the rear brake until I decide to stand up, then its either brake on or brake off.
You and me both
damn, so after 4 years you're telling me we have also brakes on our dirt bikes??? I wasted tones of boots soles....
I find most ppl are too afraid to be anywhere near the front brake on corner entry when in actual fact trailing into the first third of the corner with 5 to 20% brake or so helps the bike turn in so much better as the front end is loader up, forks are compressed, rake angle decreases and wheel base is decreased which gives a real confidence inspiring sharp turn in... takes practice of course if u aren't use to it. Love the vids mate.
i was wondering about including that but figured it might be better in an advanced vid about braking. 😊
@@crosstrainingenduro yes true that 👍
I started doing hare scrambles a few months ago on a yz125 with no front brakes. Seeing you guys stop this fast makes me think i should get a new master cylinder lol
I've got the same sort of "encouraged to use 1 finger" front brake lever on my bike, it's a free mod, called "gravity" and finished off with a "grinder".
My wife gave me that upgrade when she rode my bike a few weeks ago...
I run a Rekluse and a Clake on my Husky 450. It's a dream to ride. I am 58 and have bad knees so everything helps.
Good video. In MSF (motorcycle safety course) for street license in the US. They teach slow, head turn, press, lean and roll. Slow before entering the corner. Turn your head to look through the corner. Press on the bar to initiate the lean. Lean and slowly roll on the throttle as you exit the corner. Applies nicely to dirt as well as you mentioned. They also teach what your talking about what your talking about with braking to use both front and rear brakes so slow quicker. Also applies to dirt.
Thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you. This channel is changing my life for the better.
Happy to hear that, Daniel!
The best channel for enduro/trials!!!Greetings from Greece!!!
cheers dimitris!
Trail braking can be useful on certain types of corners. Used it a lot on road racing bikes. A little bit so far on dirt bikes.
Barry, yet another fantastic video! Your presentation skills have become master level.If you could combine dangerous animals into all of this, you could probably make millions.
cheers dagster. i think i've already go the dangerous animals covered, some of my riding buddies get pretty aggressive if they haven't had a beer before the ride. :(
Guilty of using too much back brake, glad I found your vid.
Great vid. Large aircraft max brake with antiskid (depending on conditions) to max perform the brakes. That's exactly what you simulate by braking at the limit of skidding on a dirtbike, max performing the brakes!
I love your vids. Informative, funny and entertaining!
At the top of steep downhills, I like to quickly jab the front brake (untill it briefly locks) to gauge the grip level I'll likely have for that run down the hill.
Don't be afraid of the front brake peoples 🙂
I have literally never used my front brake. I only started riding a year ago though.
Thanks for the video. I'm pretty good at breaking but my problem is on the first lap I always miss judge track conditions and wash out the front end.
Austrian bike with 88 on it, Jesse I like your style
Great vid, Barry, great advice for all levels! Now, just practice, practice, practice....
Missed the podium. Great video as usual. Thanks Barry.
95% street rider (but love this videos) and almost solely use front brakes.
Street is alot more different than dirt riding
Klaani K - really? 🤣
i thought it was the same technique... mind you it might explain why i keep banging up my kneecap hanging off the bike and dragging my inside knee along the dirt. :(
Well duh, of cource it is a different thing😂 But what i was trying to say is that there are alot of people who think everything related to motorcycles etc. is the same and when he/she said that he/she uses 95% front brake i thought that he/she is that kind of person.... that's why i said the obvious thing "dirt riding different compared to street riding"😅👍🏼
drumsnbass 95% of new street riders use mostly the back brakes. Same goes with dirt riders...hints the video!
I really enjoy these skill specific videos Barry. The basics are so complex! These type of videos in your series keep me motivated to improve. Thank you. Headed over to become a supporter after mooching for about 10 months.
great to hear josh, same here. i thought i knew the basics but learned a fair bit from jesse doing this vid.
Great ideas Barry, thanks
Great vid. Can't wait to get out for some practice time!!
Once again- great vid with good info.
Well done...again.
Thank you so much!! I'm always learning !! This a very helpful video ! Loved it !! Thanks for taking the time !! Awesome !! Cheers mate
Again, another amazing video good job!
any ideas when the Chinese dirt bike will be reviewed?
not sure if it would ever happen. i gave up chasing manufacturers for bikes to review a long time ago, most never respond. only SWM and gas gas did.... eventually.
I guess keep perpetuating content, manufactures will inevitably recognize you and your content, let's hope manufactures will be chasing you haha...
Watching this after I wiped out on mossy limestone rocks in 4th gear. going too fast for my skill level. Dodged ER though 💪
hahaha grasshopper moment was awesome! :D
These vids are always great.
I need to find a rear hand brake set up for my quad, not being able to use the standard foot pedal at all and having the clutch lever also as a rear/ parking brake lever isn’t ideal In some situations if you need both at same time
The rear brake is one thing I have to work on. Mostly because I cant feel the damn thing through my boots.
I found swapping from the 'standard' wave rotor to a solid pattern 'mud' disc helped immensely. You're not short on stopping power in your foot, but the extra pressure needed to lock up on the solid rotor compared to the wave gave far more feel.
I find that if i move the brake lever up passed peg helps me feel the break and not smash on it when applying it.
@@ctonefar Since the sides of the rotor are the friction surfaces--the ONLY ones--why would the outer contour of "the wave rotor" have ANY effect on braking output, for a given amount of brake pedal pressure?
@@1TruePatriot It's not so much the outer contour, rather the lack of cross-drilled holes/slots in mud discs. Picture the full area of a brake pad being say 8 square centimeters; now two brake discs - one is just round, no wave and no holes; the other is a wave disc with plenty of holes (say a full 30% of the metal removed verses the solid disc, with the outer edge of the 'wave' matching up with the outer area of the pad). If you can put 20kg of 'force' onto your rear brake lever, then thats 20kg of force into the disc from the pads (I'm pulling numbers out of thin air here, but you get the idea).
now, with 30% of the metal missing under the footprint of the brake pad on the wave disc compared to the solid (each of the holes is a 'void' that the pad cant press against), then there is more pressure and more 'grip' for the pads to bite with (you've got 20kg pushing against an area of 5.5cm instead of 8cm. Think force vs area; why a hammer will leave a little dint in a piece of wood, but will drive a nail right through it). On a road bike, this is great, more stopping power! But on the rear brake of an offroad bike, it's far too easy to apply too much pressure and lock it up, especially on loose downhills. But fit a solid/mud disc, and you have to apply far more pressure to lock up the rear, which gives you a more progressive feel to learn rear brake control.
Hope this clears it up! :)
another great teaching video. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks man.
Awesome set of tips mate!
Love your vids buddy!!
excellent
My old honda engine brakes like crazy, so much braking in first or second it almost throws me forward when I let off the throttle if I dont havethe clutch in
lol that's how my yfz450r is. sometimes I ha e too look down thinking I'm draging my rear brake! lol. but I'm also still braking in and getting used to riding with boots.
Love the vids! Question: fairly new off road rider. Here. Have a stock wr250r. Def no mechanic! clutch and to lesser extent front brake are way too stiff for this one finger method. Suggestions? Thanks! 🖕🏼😇
already done a very extensive vid on making clutches lighter...
@@crosstrainingenduro oh! sorry, should've looked more first. i'll track er down. thanks so much. you guys rule!!!
is their anyway to install abs on a 2013 690 enduro? mine came out a year before factory installed abs
Great vids as usual!!
Do you hold the clutch in when downshifting? For example, if you needed to come to a quick stop you would get off the gas--> clutch in--> downshift --> front and rear break
That would vary a lot in all sorts of situations...
Regarding 5:30 - I at this point (after having watched at least 2 docent Videos of yours) would undauntedly consider myself a TOP rider XD
About time...its been all go go go, up up up, down down down, go left, swing right, punch that log, overtake that Gas Gas rider holding up everyone on the single....finally we get to learn how to come to a halt and enjoy the serenity....and the smell of 2 stroke 😋
Good vid. Thanks Barry. 👍
Good vid
I went on a few rides with my rear master cylinder not working Ever since I hardly use my rear brake anymore. Only time I use my rear brake as when I want to slide . Also this is on a quad not a bike
Isn't engine-braking quite bad to do on two-strokes?
Btw. good video!
apparently only for extended periods on long downhills as they run very lean in that case. i'm no mechanic though, this is just what i've heard....
Of course no has ever engine braked a 2 stroke street or road race bike, or a flat track bike. Not to mention all the 2 stroke diesel truck engines thru the decades. This horse shit of, don't engine brake a 2 stroke is horse shit. The cylinder is still getting some fuel in it at idle speed. If it seizes up you weren't running enough oil in your fuel to start with.
Okay thanks, elitoku and Cross Training, I guess that would make sense :)
Been reading discussion groups and all this time I thought it was... breaks. 😂
How do you adjust your rear brake so it is level with the foot peg?
It's just two spanners and adjust the bolts, James. There's probably a vid on RUclips about it somewhere...
@@crosstrainingenduro Thanks mate, mine his heaps lower than my foot pegs so I’ve had some trouble braking while standing up
50% offroad rider here, but on a big boy bike ;). Does everything in this video translate a 100% to an ADV bike with a drum on the rear? I do have some proper road legal knobbies on the bike.
ik weet het niet (i'm assuming you are a dutchman lol). much of it would apply but i'm not sure how much. :(
Can you borrow one somewhere and do a video on it? :P
5:20 - What's with that glitch in the Matrix?
Nice
How do you keep on the balls of your feet yet cover the rear brake
Covered this in our foot positioning training vid
riding on wet mossy rocks allso improves you braiking skills 😀
My rego CRF450X brakes are shit as compared to my brothers rego ktm 250 2 banger. Those things lock up well good when needed.
Did I miss the Colton Haaker interview video?
nah we had fairly poor audio quality for the interview but also colton was way too serious and frankly it wouldn't have been an interesting interview. :(
Ah bummer to hear that on both accounts, oh well. Thank you! He funny/entertaining on his vlog, but I guess that isn't usually filming on race day.
Good luck in contacting them. Terrible customer service! I’ve called, emailed and left texts asking about possible hydraulic rear brake for my Nissin brakes….they may have the cable set up and not sure if they will fit but the hydro system looks more promising. Absolutely no response or replies. They’re in Utah. May have drive up and drop in next time in SLC.
Who is this, Kelly?
@@crosstrainingenduro This is Ox Brake. I believe they are out of Salt Lake City, UT.
Gotcha. Years back I rode a bike with the Ox-brake but you really had to haul on that lever to get any braking. My fingers are getting too old for that kind of workout lol. I rode a bike with the Clake SLR which was brilliant. Very easy to lock up the rear wheel if needed, plenty of feel and control.
What happened after the 3 minute mark !
black screen :)
6:38 Buen circuito
Just saw thumbnail me old skipper LMFAO- the "coward pedal"!!
You should trial the device from brakebutt. I’m sure he’d probably give you one to trial even.
🤣
勉強になった👍
ありがとう！ 私たちのビデオで日本語の翻訳を使用していますか？ それらは正確ですか？ Googleからの自動翻訳です。
@@crosstrainingenduro 返信ありがとう。翻訳は正確ではないけど 意味は理解出来るよ😁
それは良い知らせだ！
I'm an American... So I can only go in a straight line.
please help!
Get a euro bike. Preferably a Beta then corners especially rights will be a breeze.
weird... i thought american bikes like harleys leaned more toward the right while most european brands were a bit more left leaning?
Call me dumb, but whats that chattering the back break does when you push it down hard?
Graham Vandermark Probably chain slap as the rear bounces.
yup.
So did he say he engine brakes on a 2 stroke ?
I've never rode dirtbikes and no idea about 2-stroke quirks, what's wrong with his logic?
@@e.e9331 basically 2 stroke engines do not have valves, 4 strokes does. This produces a gas flow restriction in 4 strokes engines which is strong enough to slow down the vehicle substencially.
2 stroke will only slow you down due to friction of the different components, but this force is very very weak
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engine_braking
Well done! I have the sudden urge to order chinese food, tho.
5:38 i feel attacked
4:56, I’m pretty confused. Surely you can’t let the clutch be engaged the entirety of the time without allowing a little bit of slippage, right? Aren’t you just gonna stall the engine like that? Like I’m sure you need some clutch modulation, no? I’m very new to all this sort of thing
Definitely pull the clutch in if going slow to avoid stalling.
@@crosstrainingenduro Ah okay, gotcha lol. I figured that’s what y’all meant, was just confused by the wording. Great video though nonetheless! Y’all are very helpful
The Subspenion is a little soft:/
Learning while laughing.. my teachers just never got that in high school..
a shame kyle. it can make such a difference, i remember a uni lecturer in the dreaded snozzy 1pm to 2pm lecture slot who would crack jokes when everyone started napping. best lectures ever....
Front brakes are only good for flying. To make the most of breaking just mash the back brake and drop the bike.
“you are less likely to... piss your pants” 😂
HAAAAA!!!!!…u r not a top rider….u would not be watching these vids…..NAILED IT!
So there’s only 60% brake then
Wait theirs brakes?
Why buy a one fingerd break when you have a hack saw
wait, you guys use brakes??
only when riding up steep hill climbs
I personally use alot front brake. It's imo way more useful because you can use it woth your fingers
Crap.... don’t have front brakes....
👍👍👍👍👍
Brakes? We don't need no stinking brakes.
Technically since there are 2 negatives that means a positive so that means you need brakes
So if you are in the correct standing position, when you shit yourself you should shoot it over the rear guard. Wish I knew that weeks ago haha
I have to remember that for when we update the training vids 🤣
"You are less likely to piss your pants." So matter of fact.
I have several hospital bills as proof that you can go faster than you can stop.
Argh, same here!
5:32 truth hurts.
Now let's see how you do in traffic lol
Ummmm... pretty well
Klaani K Days of Thunder!
You are telling me to LOCK MY FRONT WHEEL WHEN BRAKING?????? No way !!!!!!!!!
Alexander Rivas briefly, on loose surfaces.. o_0 did you not listen?
in my case..I forget to brake..and oops..off I come
Traduscan al español pls:(
pero no hablo español
@@crosstrainingenduro ok 😢 thanks
Dopp
i am a top rider, and i'm watching this video..so what? lol
I disagree my engine does 70% 😜 🤪
Professional discourager 🤣🤣
In Polish language "pedal" means also a gay
Dude said 30%, 25%, and 5%. Where’s the rest 40% bro.
??? When did he say 30%?
COWARD PEDAL!
thats just what i say cause my drum breaks are usless......just ask the dog i hit :(
Spiritpoweredinternet i did buy the bike because of them ;)
what bike is it
Einar 1 honda cm250, i have it on video...
Rockabilly Rambler is that you jake?
BUBBLES )
That whole sensei thing is highly offensive.....:)
Good vid! Thanks for posting!