I’m glad Tom has no salt. I did originally, but now I’m like “Damn, I do not want to bring people down who actually are happy for this reveal.” So for now, my reaction is “Meh, it is not what I wanted; but others are happy, so that is good.”
My reaction exactly. Not much hype but you can't complain since is more content. Also, 6 more characters for the next 2 years? I'll let this character slide.
Liam Ward I mean kind of, if I remember correctly, he was merely a vessel, a body that can hold a god but is not a god in and of themselves, same thing goes for Robin
I'm just loving how Sakurai decides now is the time to explain what Fire Emblem is: Sakurai: I know it might be hard to believe, but Marth and all those sword users are not actually Smash original characters. Smash Community: (*Visible Confusion*)
Roy actually debuted in Melee, it came out before Binding Blade. So Marth and six of seven of all those sword users are not actually Smash original characters.
@@harb1ng3r82 He had to have been developed for FE before he could have been put in Smash. Otherwise there would have been no point of putting him in at all. He was definitely from Binding Blade first lol
"Sure, let's just give Cassandra Morris more to do while we're at it." ---- "LOOKING COOL, JOKER!" "What was that? And why does that creature sound like me?" "LOOKING COOL, JOK---" "STOP IT!"
Honestly I’m fine if people dislike the character that got in, but what I feel is extremely toxic is how there are people being rude to each other simply because their opinions are different. I’m likely just being naive but I just don’t like seeing people angry at each other.
Caden Shears sometimes I feel like the toxicity has nothing to do with the game. People will adjust themselves to achieve selfish happiness. This is the case for this direct too, most people are probably not even mad, they just wanted to crush others down for pleasure. Fcking cheap Normie assholes everywhere
Nah, it's not you being naive. The majority of the smash community is insane. Like, legitimately insane. "I didn't get my literal nobody from a single game that was released over 20 years ago and never sold more than 100k copies, so now I'm going to rage at everyone for some reason. Oh, and it wasn't even the main character of said game." I've just started entirely ignoring the majority of the "fanbase". The amount of unnecessary salt over literal nothings because people can't look at things objectively is ridiculous, and it's pretty much unmatched in almost all of gaming.
Yeah I mean, I hate the reveal and I am getting sick of Fire Emblem, but if the others enjoy it, that’s fine. It’s not a bad thing and don’t want to rain down on their hype. Just personally, I was hoping for something.... more, but eh
Same, I get why people are upset but honestly it doesn't bother me. As long as the character can stand out and be fun to play I don't really care too much. The fact that some people are always going to go at each other because something just has to bother them, that really annoys me.
most fans show asaw this game it was clear as there going to add new fire eblme chater fogrm the new game theyh did the some thing with smash 4 so I don't get way so many fans did not see this coming
@@milboxr9772 If an axe with a shockwave effect, A sword with whip mechanics, a long-range lance and a bow with an overcharge mechanic is "another sword user", you need to re-evaluate your expectations. From what I've seen, Byleth plays less like a sword user than some characters without swords.
@@litten4112 well it would have been better and factually more hype than yet ANOTHER fire emblem character, i dont even like dante or sora anyways all i want is crash or rayman
I agree in theory that one of the Lords would have been more interesting as a playable character in Smash, but there lies the main problem: You can't just put in ONE of the Lords and they weren't going to use three slots to include Dimitri, Claude, and Edelgard so every one would be represented. So they did the next best thing, had their weapons represent them, and in doing so helped Byleth stand out from the other Fire Emblem reps.
@@corbinselanne7990 I mean, at the end of the day, the biggest, and most valid, complaint from even fans of Fire Emblem has been lack of weapon triangle representation, so the other Lords' Relics goes a far way towards addressing that while still using the only logical character you could from a game with multiple paths and allegiances like Three Houses. ...And the reveal trailer was deliciously cheesy, so what's to hate. The real sad thing is that the discourse is now dominated by people afraid of the other people that will get mad at every turn.
It kinda seems like Sakurai doesn't want transforming characters. They were removed in Smash 4 and in Ultimate Pokemon Trainer is only here because EVERYONE IS HERE
That's the same probably the Champions from Breath of The Wild had, but they didn't even give Link the Champion abilities which sucks. I wouldn't mind having all four Champions as separate characters... 🤷♂️
I'm so happy I saw the reveal with Tom. He seemed interested all throughout, and I was happy. Though I was a bit disappointed it not being a 3rd party character, I was still happy watching the stream with Tom nonetheless. Just goes to show that he really is just that cool of a guy to watch. Also, when seeing other's reaction, it's awesome how hostile they became since it wasn't Dante, which is their fault for getting too hyped.
@@SquidJoe just makes sense to me. Also it might just be me, but I feel like he did this intentionally in order to pull off a Joker reveal for the next pass, which will make people buy it. After all, even he send Nintendo will be like "Really?"
Yeah, i was watching it with Maximillian Dood, whos a fighting game youtuber, and the moment it showed FE He became so hostile, i had to leave the stream and watch it on the nintendo channel.
@@MutatedAmerican People will buy the pass no matter what cause is Smash. Put DLC on your most successful franchises and it becomes a gold mine. I wish they do that with Super Mario Party & MK8D.
@@SquidJoe That's true lol Also anyone else feels like he did this intentionally in order to pull off a Joker reveal for the next pass, which will make people buy it? After all, even he send Nintendo will be like "Really?"
Also, I guess there WAS a color pattern in the Fighters Pass after all. The fifth one was just green, not orange. We probably forgot that Piranha Plant isn't in the Pass itself, heh.
I love how the Spirits added post-launch was a BIG hint- When Link's Awakening, Toy-Con VR, Pokemon, Astral Chain, and Daemon Ex Machina even, all got Spirits, Nintendo's major Summer release from one of their main IPs being omitted was... Rather odd.
Man Tom, I kinda wish I'd been there for your stream. You seem like the only person who was even remotely interested in actually watching the trailer. Like...a bunch of other ones were too busy laughing about "lol fire emblem" or "lol swords" to even really pay attention and hear anything I am super happy with this reveal. It's not at all what I wanted, but I am a Fire Emblem fan, so I am SUPER excited to see Lances, Bows and Axes finally get some form of representation. All we need now is a proper Dragonstone user...~ xP Heheh. I kid, I kid. I think they're done with Fire Emblem now. But that said, I can understand why people would be upset by this. Still, though, there's six more to come that are almost guaranteed to NOT be Fire Emblem related and as it stands, you already have 70 other non-Fire Emblem characters to love while you look forward to the future Also, can we just agree that the humor in the trailor was just spot on?~
@Olivier Dubreuil-Gagnon Yeah, I guess? It's just not very satisfying to me, I guess. I was more thinking Tiki who would have it as pretty much their whole gimmick xD
Besides, if people will still cry over it, at least there won't be anymore FE characters. 8 just seems like the magic number, especially since 8 fighters is the max amount to have in a single match
Bryan Diaz I personally am fine with this new character while I’m sad it wasn’t who I wanted to join I’m still grateful a new character has been revealed. People are just salty that the character they wanted didn’t make it or don’t want another swordfighter/fire emblem character
@@bluephantom1999 I understand, but people are just overreacting. Especially Dante fans. Also, just might be me, but I feel like he did this intentionally in order to pull off a Joker reveal for the next pass, which will make people buy it. After all, even he send Nintendo will be like "Really?"
I'm just saying this characters moveset could have been either hunter(bloodborne) or Noctis(ff15) and nothing would have changed. Probably would have gotten less dislikes.
Even without counting throws, only about half of Byleth's moveset involves a sword. Sort of like Corrin, whose moveset is more shapeshifting than sword.
The UK chat got flooded by a chat bot, before that it was relatively calm. I prefer the Europe streams usually as there's about just 100 or so in the chat that are mostly accepting and doesn't judge others.
The Stephenplays chat that I was in was super chill and accepting, though it could be that Stephen was not there reacting live, but hosting and reacting afterward (and his thoughts were very positive and understanding for someone not in the FE loop)
Anyone else feels like he did this intentionally in order to pull off a Joker reveal for the next pass, which will make people buy it? After all, even he send Nintendo will be like "Really?"
"I won't spoil." (States Rhea fights in the opening) ...Even if it was obvious... Sakurai... You just dropped one of the biggest spoilers in the game...
@@theoaremevano3227 DO NOT. EVEN REMIND ME! I AM STILL UPSET ABOUT MUMKHAR ENHANCING INTO METAL FACE! ...Then again, I ALSO get to have an army of Mumkhars impris- I mean rescued and in my safe protection. Yes. Totally no enslavement of Mumkhar. DEFINITELY not. ...I hate Metal Face with a burning passion...
I'm torn about Byleth. I'll be glad to play as them, but it feels underwhelming compared to the other DLC characters being a big milestone of some kind. Hopefully this is a sign that previous characters didn't make the cut might have a higher chance in the second pack.
I kind of knew Byleth was going to be in Smash. Since Corrin was in Smash 4 to promote FE: Fates. It only made sense that Byleth is in Ultimate to promote Three Houses.
So i was watching this with my friends (who are Fire Emblem fans btw) and this conversation happened: Sakurai: “You team up with the misterious Sothis” My friends: Cool! Me: hM m... SoThis is the power of Sothis! My friends:... Leave. NOW.
First, since escaping the darkness of Zaharas takes the power of a god and Sothis uses the letter to escape, THOSE LETTERS HAVE POWER EQUAL TO THAT OF A GOD! Second, this was all worth it just to watch Solon's reaction to Byleth escaping the second time. Because really, let's face it- Watching be annoyed is SO CATHARTIC!
I mean, Smash Bros has no shortage of gods-- Master & Crazy Hands, Galeem, Dharkon... Not to mention several of the characters in Smash are god-tiers in their own 'verse (Palutena, Kirby, Bayonetta, Rosalina, Shulk...).
I love three houses, adding byleth seemed only logical, and throwing in the different weapons is perfect so that it's more like a weapon master than a swordfighter
@18:12 i don't like calling people out merely for being stupid, but why would that guy in chat ever think DmC dante would be the version to get in smash?
StrikingShadow021 nah your not alone buddy just as long as they are fun I'm down with any character this is like the only fighting game to even have a selection of fighters with over 80+ (w/ DLC) characters how can you complain much thou
@@scarletrose8766 Hell I tend to stick to my boy Kirby for the most part. So yeah, out of 70+ characters, if folks can't find a main out of that, then that's moreso a them problem.
Sadly Owain's hand pose is either 24 or 3 depending on whether you look at it from the front or back, and I'm pretty sure neither Awakening nor Fates is one of them. 13 is having your thumb, ring and middle fingers down with the index finger and pinky staying up.
Justin Dumindin Wow, that’s actually useful for a creative idea. I can imagine Owain or any of his descendants posing in a similar manner in 2024 or maybe it takes in account the year he could’ve been born? But all in all if Braille was used as some kind of character quirk it can be a fun Easter egg. Thanks for that even though it didn’t resolve much but I learned something from it.
This reveal was about more than the character, no one 'leaked' it. Like with piranha plant this is a move by Sakurai. Pirahna plant was keep your expectations reasonable and this is we can rise above the leakers
I had a feeling- When I starting looking back at the Spirits that were added post-launch, I realized that Three Houses WASN'T one of the games when Toy-Con VR, Sword/Shield, Astral Chain, and Daemon Ex Machina, of all things, got Spirits. Three Houses was ESPECIALLY jarring to not have Spirits.
Weird choice but their moveset seems interesting as does the stage and song choices. I know allot of people are tired of the FE rep but whatever, no point throwing a fit over it. It's also important to keep in mind that this isn't the first time an FE character has been DLC (Corrin+Roy from SSB4). That said I do understand some people feeling letdown over it being a 1st party character rather than a 3rd party one like the previous 4 were.
I'm still hoping for DoomSlayer no matter what you say Tom but I think the Mii costumes saved the direct. I also don't think having another FE character was bad I just think it should have waited till the next pass
I'm quite salty, i understand that FE 3H is huge, but like there are so many fire emblem characters already and there are so many other people to add. But I will admit this does look better than some of the other fire emblem characters.
@@ssjgotenks2009 You do understand that Mario and Pokémon are the biggest video game franchises and it's only logical and fair that they have the most characters, right? No. Stop. Don't give me that "well FE is kinda popular in Japan" because, yes, it is, but it is far from being on the same level as Mario and Pokémon. You cannot compare them.
Yeah...I expected a Three Houses character. Even pointed it out in the recent stream. We were hoping for one of the other Lords, but it just couldn't not be Byleth.
Redfire085 Yea, they couldn’t just put in ONE lord from 3H, because then people would get even more mad that ‘why didn’t x lord get in and y lord did?!’ Of they were gonna add a 3H rep,then it was probs gonna be Byleth. I’m not liking the last costume tho, ngl. Buuuut people will swear their alliances on online by using the respective lord skins. I’m most likely gonna be a mix of Claude and Dimitri. Sorry el, I just now completed your route soo..
Now I know why he chose byleth because what are character is important enough for the story that is neutral mind u he probably wanted to stay neutral. He couldn’t confirm what was the most popular house (Black Eagles) because he started work on the character before the game come out. And choosing a character that’s only really important to one route of the game would be ignoring the other 2 routes Spoilers Yes I know there are 4 routes
Yeah, people are gonna be salty that it's another FE character, but Byleth looks super fun to play as. I'm even considering maining Byleth now, even though I already main a FE character (Roy).
Oooo maybe we could get a Grass starter then. Like not part of Pokemon Trainer, more their own like Greninja and Incineroar. I would love Sceptile. Decidueye could work too as the first "true" archer character. Chesnaught could be an interesting tank. Serperior would be super interesting as a mix of long reach and grappling. And Rillaboom could be a mixed tank/sound range.
Realistically, there aren't many franchises left out of Smash that have a huge general appeal. Extra reps from existing franchises are always well received (except FE) and high sales and critical acclaim don't seem to be a factor in deciding who gets in. After all, once upon a time a no name anime boi named Marth got into Melee. FP2 will almost certainly disappoint people, because Ultimate has made a name of including everyone, and anyone rooting for a character that doesn't make it will feel increasingly snubbed. Just throw away that wish list, you'll be happier in the long run.
@@crimsonwizahd2358 Considering there have been Digimon games on Nintendo Consoles (Nintendo Exclusives:Digimon World DS/Dawm&Dusk/Championship, a Digimon kart racer I forget the name of.) Your theory doesn't hold much water.
Sakurai couldn’t help with the spoilers could he “here you see lady rheia, who you see fighting in the opening of three houses” Sakurai, the player is not supposed to know that right off the bat. It’s supposed to hinted at over the game but believed that she was just a descendent of the person at the start. Good thing anyone who cared during the direct probably already played three houses.
DueNorth The Weeb I agree she would be a cool thats one thing they disappointed me with if they want to throw a bunch of fire emblem characters in a game why use all the sword users? Like theres plenty of other affintys like:axe, lance, bow, ninja, healer, and not to mention the magic types but they did add robin so ig i cant complain too much buttt.
Maybe I'm missing something but I dont get why people want Dante.. Same for shadow before hand. As far as I know shadow is one of the most hated things from modern sonic, when did he become popular? When did a sudden popularity for Dante come from?
I am still very meh about the final choice, mainly because of the placement. It is ending this pack not with a bang but a whimper. Byleth should have been a bonus character for dlc pack 2 or the 7th fighter. It's like if you got great gifts for all the holidays of the year but got clothes during christmas, the final most anticipated day of the year. You'd be grateful but still feel very indifferent toward it.
I’m glad Tom has no salt. I did originally, but now I’m like “Damn, I do not want to bring people down who actually are happy for this reveal.” So for now, my reaction is “Meh, it is not what I wanted; but others are happy, so that is good.”
My reaction exactly. Not much hype but you can't complain since is more content. Also, 6 more characters for the next 2 years? I'll let this character slide.
Progamer1013 tell that to Twitter
Adarius Quinn I mean, you can never appease Twitter. The Internet has known that since forever ago.
Progamer1013 wow you are the first smart smash player. It’s nothing but insulting people who like fire emblem on twitter
Kayden 21 That is a real shame. If anything, I am happy that Fire Emblem is now more mainstream in the West.
"So joining smash consumes even the darkness itself"
Yes, we call it Galeem
i think solon would have a heart attack if he saw what some smash fighters could do
Liam Ward mostly the divine characters (Pit, Palutena, Dark Pit, Bayonetta, Rosalina, Corrin, and Kirby)
@@Poketom-ob1dl "shulk"
Liam Ward I mean kind of, if I remember correctly, he was merely a vessel, a body that can hold a god but is not a god in and of themselves, same thing goes for Robin
@@Poketom-ob1dl and at the end of the game he overpowers zanza proving he still is very powerful as for robin fe gods are bs
I'm just loving how Sakurai decides now is the time to explain what Fire Emblem is:
Sakurai: I know it might be hard to believe, but Marth and all those sword users are not actually Smash original characters.
Smash Community: (*Visible Confusion*)
**Surprise Pikachu Face**
Roy actually debuted in Melee, it came out before Binding Blade. So Marth and six of seven of all those sword users are not actually Smash original characters.
Harb1ng3r well Roy was put in as a marketing piece, so he’s still not originally “from smash”
@@harb1ng3r82 He had to have been developed for FE before he could have been put in Smash. Otherwise there would have been no point of putting him in at all. He was definitely from Binding Blade first lol
"Sure, let's just give Cassandra Morris more to do while we're at it."
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"LOOKING COOL, JOKER!"
"What was that? And why does that creature sound like me?"
"LOOKING COOL, JOK---"
"STOP IT!"
I'm glad I'm not the only one.
Yeah, but Sothis is also very sarcastic.
Next DLC character: Edea Lee.
Smash needs more of her voicing reveals as side characters
@@PyraXadon "Mrgrgr!"
Honestly I’m fine if people dislike the character that got in, but what I feel is extremely toxic is how there are people being rude to each other simply because their opinions are different. I’m likely just being naive but I just don’t like seeing people angry at each other.
Caden Shears sometimes I feel like the toxicity has nothing to do with the game. People will adjust themselves to achieve selfish happiness. This is the case for this direct too, most people are probably not even mad, they just wanted to crush others down for pleasure. Fcking cheap Normie assholes everywhere
Nah, it's not you being naive. The majority of the smash community is insane. Like, legitimately insane. "I didn't get my literal nobody from a single game that was released over 20 years ago and never sold more than 100k copies, so now I'm going to rage at everyone for some reason. Oh, and it wasn't even the main character of said game."
I've just started entirely ignoring the majority of the "fanbase". The amount of unnecessary salt over literal nothings because people can't look at things objectively is ridiculous, and it's pretty much unmatched in almost all of gaming.
Yeah I mean, I hate the reveal and I am getting sick of Fire Emblem, but if the others enjoy it, that’s fine. It’s not a bad thing and don’t want to rain down on their hype. Just personally, I was hoping for something.... more, but eh
Same, I get why people are upset but honestly it doesn't bother me. As long as the character can stand out and be fun to play I don't really care too much. The fact that some people are always going to go at each other because something just has to bother them, that really annoys me.
most fans show asaw this game it was clear as there going to add new fire eblme chater fogrm the new game theyh did the some thing with smash 4 so I don't get way so many fans did not see this coming
I honestly love that they addressed the meme of "not another sword user" with a bit of humor
Same!
By adding another sword user....not a good joke if you do the same shit your criticising
@@milboxr9772 If an axe with a shockwave effect, A sword with whip mechanics, a long-range lance and a bow with an overcharge mechanic is "another sword user", you need to re-evaluate your expectations. From what I've seen, Byleth plays less like a sword user than some characters without swords.
@@milboxr9772 i guess Dante or Sora wouls have been better, right?
@@litten4112 well it would have been better and factually more hype than yet ANOTHER fire emblem character, i dont even like dante or sora anyways all i want is crash or rayman
I agree in theory that one of the Lords would have been more interesting as a playable character in Smash, but there lies the main problem: You can't just put in ONE of the Lords and they weren't going to use three slots to include Dimitri, Claude, and Edelgard so every one would be represented.
So they did the next best thing, had their weapons represent them, and in doing so helped Byleth stand out from the other Fire Emblem reps.
@@corbinselanne7990 I mean, at the end of the day, the biggest, and most valid, complaint from even fans of Fire Emblem has been lack of weapon triangle representation, so the other Lords' Relics goes a far way towards addressing that while still using the only logical character you could from a game with multiple paths and allegiances like Three Houses. ...And the reveal trailer was deliciously cheesy, so what's to hate.
The real sad thing is that the discourse is now dominated by people afraid of the other people that will get mad at every turn.
Pokemon Trainer style switching.
@@AirahsELL That would make Pokemon Trainer feel a lot less special though, and it would be a lot more work.
It kinda seems like Sakurai doesn't want transforming characters. They were removed in Smash 4 and in Ultimate Pokemon Trainer is only here because EVERYONE IS HERE
That's the same probably the Champions from Breath of The Wild had, but they didn't even give Link the Champion abilities which sucks. I wouldn't mind having all four Champions as separate characters... 🤷♂️
That moment when you realize that fighter pack 1 started and ENDED with morgana XD
spiderdude2099 oh yeah Morgana and sothis lmao welp meanwhile I wanna hear Edelgard cause Tara Platt (Mitsuru and Elizabeth)
I don't get it.
@@jacobdagun3670 Morgana and Sothis have the same voice actress
@@Jo__Ko Sorta like how the Yusuke fight uses Chrom, and both are voiced by Matt Mercer?
Sakurai: they hate sword users?? Ok, lesson learned, I'll cancel the work on Dante and Sora and sephiroth.
The amount of little shots the reveal trailer had was fantastic.
I thought so too!
that's how you deal with the toxic fan base! not how gf handled it, petty pricks
I'm so happy I saw the reveal with Tom. He seemed interested all throughout, and I was happy. Though I was a bit disappointed it not being a 3rd party character, I was still happy watching the stream with Tom nonetheless. Just goes to show that he really is just that cool of a guy to watch.
Also, when seeing other's reaction, it's awesome how hostile they became since it wasn't Dante, which is their fault for getting too hyped.
Cause he really played FE3H like crazy, of course he'll be interested all the way.
@@SquidJoe just makes sense to me. Also it might just be me, but I feel like he did this intentionally in order to pull off a Joker reveal for the next pass, which will make people buy it.
After all, even he send Nintendo will be like "Really?"
Yeah, i was watching it with Maximillian Dood, whos a fighting game youtuber, and the moment it showed FE He became so hostile, i had to leave the stream and watch it on the nintendo channel.
@@MutatedAmerican People will buy the pass no matter what cause is Smash. Put DLC on your most successful franchises and it becomes a gold mine. I wish they do that with Super Mario Party & MK8D.
@@SquidJoe That's true lol
Also anyone else feels like he did this intentionally in order to pull off a Joker reveal for the next pass, which will make people buy it?
After all, even he send Nintendo will be like "Really?"
"Why does Sakurai hate Captain Falcon so much?"
Pretty sure you mean Nintendo as a whole, Tom...
It's revenge for Lucina and Chrom.
Nintendo loves fire emblem and hates f zero
Personally, I'm excited as it doesn't look like Byleth won't be a typical sword/FE fighter. Plus, I'm a fan of Fire Emblem, so there's that too.
Same here! I’m glad to not be the only one with a positive outlook
I love it, I was talking to my cousin the night before the direct and said it'd be cool if they added them though it felt unlikely.
Also, I guess there WAS a color pattern in the Fighters Pass after all. The fifth one was just green, not orange. We probably forgot that Piranha Plant isn't in the Pass itself, heh.
I love how the Spirits added post-launch was a BIG hint- When Link's Awakening, Toy-Con VR, Pokemon, Astral Chain, and Daemon Ex Machina even, all got Spirits, Nintendo's major Summer release from one of their main IPs being omitted was... Rather odd.
Adam Rhodes Pokemon😳
@@erickvalentin7703 What about Pokemon? Spirits for Sword and Shield were added.
We should all just be happy for the people that wanted Byleth in, and look forward to the 6 CHARACTERS we are getting!
Man Tom, I kinda wish I'd been there for your stream. You seem like the only person who was even remotely interested in actually watching the trailer. Like...a bunch of other ones were too busy laughing about "lol fire emblem" or "lol swords" to even really pay attention and hear anything
I am super happy with this reveal. It's not at all what I wanted, but I am a Fire Emblem fan, so I am SUPER excited to see Lances, Bows and Axes finally get some form of representation. All we need now is a proper Dragonstone user...~ xP
Heheh. I kid, I kid. I think they're done with Fire Emblem now. But that said, I can understand why people would be upset by this. Still, though, there's six more to come that are almost guaranteed to NOT be Fire Emblem related and as it stands, you already have 70 other non-Fire Emblem characters to love while you look forward to the future
Also, can we just agree that the humor in the trailor was just spot on?~
I'd recommend watching NicoB's reaction then. He's currently playing through the game, so that's a fun watch.
@Olivier Dubreuil-Gagnon Yeah, I guess? It's just not very satisfying to me, I guess. I was more thinking Tiki who would have it as pretty much their whole gimmick xD
Now all that's left is somebody with a mount...
Frederick for Smash!
“Good! There’s Mom!” Sakurai, you’ve created another meme!
Josh Twomey he's a good boy he loves his mom
Honestly, I just hope that with the announcement of a 6th fighter in the 2nd pass, people can stop yelling, "They wasted a slot for Fire Emblem?!?!"
Besides, if people will still cry over it, at least there won't be anymore FE characters. 8 just seems like the magic number, especially since 8 fighters is the max amount to have in a single match
@@MicaiahBaron I know, but hey, some one can hope I guess.
Bryan Diaz I personally am fine with this new character while I’m sad it wasn’t who I wanted to join I’m still grateful a new character has been revealed. People are just salty that the character they wanted didn’t make it or don’t want another swordfighter/fire emblem character
@@bluephantom1999 I understand, but people are just overreacting. Especially Dante fans.
Also, just might be me, but I feel like he did this intentionally in order to pull off a Joker reveal for the next pass, which will make people buy it.
After all, even he send Nintendo will be like "Really?"
I'm just saying this characters moveset could have been either hunter(bloodborne) or Noctis(ff15) and nothing would have changed. Probably would have gotten less dislikes.
Sans reaction: *Wide eyed shock turns into hyena noises*
Cuphead reaction: *Wide eyed shock turns into a calm "Oh man"*
Even without counting throws, only about half of Byleth's moveset involves a sword. Sort of like Corrin, whose moveset is more shapeshifting than sword.
Most humane chat I’ve seen so far
The UK chat got flooded by a chat bot, before that it was relatively calm. I prefer the Europe streams usually as there's about just 100 or so in the chat that are mostly accepting and doesn't judge others.
The Stephenplays chat that I was in was super chill and accepting, though it could be that Stephen was not there reacting live, but hosting and reacting afterward (and his thoughts were very positive and understanding for someone not in the FE loop)
"Smash is for good girls and boys"
*Byleth's last costume is literally lingerie*
@@MicaiahBaron I'm surprised that Female Byleth and Dorothea made it by the CERO rating board. Especially since Camilla didn't.
It was a mistranslation. Nintendo just thought mai was too lewd. Sakurai thought it was dumb
No skin = ok for boys and girls have you seen zero suit samus.
The Twitter tears are extremely salty today, eh?
Its great
Mmmm... tastes like fries~
Anyone else feels like he did this intentionally in order to pull off a Joker reveal for the next pass, which will make people buy it?
After all, even he send Nintendo will be like "Really?"
I'm not buying fighters pass 2 regardless. I learned my lesson with fighters pass 1 where I ended up getting the pass for one character.
UchihaItachi1986 or, you could wait until all the fighters for the second pack are out and make your decision rather than jumping to conclusions?
@@the1theonlyg248 All of the characters will be available separately outside of the fighters pass and that's how I'll be getting anyone I want.
UchihaItachi1986 okay, that’s fair.
I'm planning to get it regardless. I like having options in case a character grows on me.
"I won't spoil."
(States Rhea fights in the opening)
...Even if it was obvious... Sakurai... You just dropped one of the biggest spoilers in the game...
Could also be bad translation. Or, like the timeskip, he couldve thought that it was common knowledge because of the trailers
There's NO WAY they revealed Rhea was REDACTED ahead of time.
Let's face it. Smash is basically Spoiler Brothers. XD
@@theoaremevano3227 DO NOT. EVEN REMIND ME! I AM STILL UPSET ABOUT MUMKHAR ENHANCING INTO METAL FACE!
...Then again, I ALSO get to have an army of Mumkhars impris- I mean rescued and in my safe protection. Yes. Totally no enslavement of Mumkhar. DEFINITELY not.
...I hate Metal Face with a burning passion...
If there's no context, it's not a spoiler.
TomFoolery
0:00-0:50 Machohiro Sakurai
I'm torn about Byleth. I'll be glad to play as them, but it feels underwhelming compared to the other DLC characters being a big milestone of some kind. Hopefully this is a sign that previous characters didn't make the cut might have a higher chance in the second pack.
The final fighter pack should add Sakurai himself as a character.
Went straight from denial to bargaining to acceptance. This is man is 10 steps ahead
I kind of knew Byleth was going to be in Smash. Since Corrin was in Smash 4 to promote FE: Fates. It only made sense that Byleth is in Ultimate to promote Three Houses.
Just imagine Tom didn’t change the deep voice would here sothis voice would be hilarious
TBH I'm more excited for the cuphead costume than the fighter
So i was watching this with my friends (who are Fire Emblem fans btw) and this conversation happened:
Sakurai: “You team up with the misterious Sothis”
My friends: Cool!
Me: hM m... SoThis is the power of Sothis!
My friends:...
Leave. NOW.
Anyone else forget the og name of FE 3Houses protagonist was Byleth? Im too used to Canyunot
10:07
Damn, was NOT expecting a Barats and Bereta reference
16:16 He means a smash input. Like how Samus does Super Missiles, or how Luigi does a quick mid-charge Green Missile.
I love how much the chat calmed down over the course of the direct. From rage to, "at least they made them unique."
People got up early and stayed up late for this announcement. Sakurai trolled the entire world.
First, since escaping the darkness of Zaharas takes the power of a god and Sothis uses the letter to escape, THOSE LETTERS HAVE POWER EQUAL TO THAT OF A GOD!
Second, this was all worth it just to watch Solon's reaction to Byleth escaping the second time. Because really, let's face it- Watching be annoyed is SO CATHARTIC!
I mean, the letters ARE an invite from a God... that God being our Lord and Savior Sakurai.
@@goldencyclone4984 Yeah, but... Not even Sothis could escape. She had to merge with Byleth to make it out...
she could if hse had body
I mean, Smash Bros has no shortage of gods-- Master & Crazy Hands, Galeem, Dharkon... Not to mention several of the characters in Smash are god-tiers in their own 'verse (Palutena, Kirby, Bayonetta, Rosalina, Shulk...).
@@paradoxicaloutcome1007 Actually, Sothis is a god. SHE couldn't escape without her body. Yeah. Those letters are more powerful than a god.
I love three houses, adding byleth seemed only logical, and throwing in the different weapons is perfect so that it's more like a weapon master than a swordfighter
So far the only reaction I've seen where someone notices the fishing
@18:12 i don't like calling people out merely for being stupid, but why would that guy in chat ever think DmC dante would be the version to get in smash?
7:26 Oh, you have no idea what's coming, past Tom
Okay, I just watched this video today and didn't expect to see Byleth's reveal on the day they are meant to be released.
ん/ン can be both n and m depending on how you read it, the "is it sempai or senpai" issue..!
Am i the only one who doesnt care if the dlc is Nintendo or third party
StrikingShadow021 nah your not alone buddy just as long as they are fun I'm down with any character this is like the only fighting game to even have a selection of fighters with over 80+ (w/ DLC) characters how can you complain much thou
@@scarletrose8766 Hell I tend to stick to my boy Kirby for the most part. So yeah, out of 70+ characters, if folks can't find a main out of that, then that's moreso a them problem.
@@crimsonwizahd2358 Lil cute pink ball he's cute I like Kirby too
everyone wants 24:15
gatekeeper-kun
I detect a fellow penguin.
I think rather than a situation to be mad about, its more like a "welp... alright" kind of moment.
Now I’m curious, is Owain’s hand pose a reference for what number Awakening is in the series?
Sadly Owain's hand pose is either 24 or 3 depending on whether you look at it from the front or back, and I'm pretty sure neither Awakening nor Fates is one of them.
13 is having your thumb, ring and middle fingers down with the index finger and pinky staying up.
Justin Dumindin Wow, that’s actually useful for a creative idea. I can imagine Owain or any of his descendants posing in a similar manner in 2024 or maybe it takes in account the year he could’ve been born? But all in all if Braille was used as some kind of character quirk it can be a fun Easter egg. Thanks for that even though it didn’t resolve much but I learned something from it.
First Sans, now Cuphead.
Poor Gunner keeps getting shafted.
This reveal was about more than the character, no one 'leaked' it. Like with piranha plant this is a move by Sakurai. Pirahna plant was keep your expectations reasonable and this is we can rise above the leakers
I like how people say the tag team battle was rigged when "another" smash ball appeared but nobody noticed he only just knocked the ball out of Marth
Damn didnt know sakurai had a growth sprout
I'm excited specifically to see how Byleth is used competitively.
What i'm wondering is, will Volume 2 have a stage and music tracks as well?
Sakurai said on twitter that there would be
Wait, during the battle network part, it played star force music...
They were all sayin' DANTE !
😂😂😂
#1 WIZKUID goofies
I wanted Sora, Dante, or Travis Touchdown. I wanted more variety with the Smash roster, but hey, at least FE fans are happy.
@@z33sh4n yeah me 2
I called it when they announced another Fire Emblem Character would be in Smash.
I had a feeling- When I starting looking back at the Spirits that were added post-launch, I realized that Three Houses WASN'T one of the games when Toy-Con VR, Sword/Shield, Astral Chain, and Daemon Ex Machina, of all things, got Spirits. Three Houses was ESPECIALLY jarring to not have Spirits.
Weird choice but their moveset seems interesting as does the stage and song choices. I know allot of people are tired of the FE rep but whatever, no point throwing a fit over it. It's also important to keep in mind that this isn't the first time an FE character has been DLC (Corrin+Roy from SSB4). That said I do understand some people feeling letdown over it being a 1st party character rather than a 3rd party one like the previous 4 were.
I'm still hoping for DoomSlayer no matter what you say Tom but I think the Mii costumes saved the direct. I also don't think having another FE character was bad I just think it should have waited till the next pass
I'm quite salty, i understand that FE 3H is huge, but like there are so many fire emblem characters already and there are so many other people to add. But I will admit this does look better than some of the other fire emblem characters.
so ther tond fire emlem yet no one shits on just as amrio mairo and pokemon charaters id pokemon Mario can tons charatrs then so can fe
@@ssjgotenks2009 You do understand that Mario and Pokémon are the biggest video game franchises and it's only logical and fair that they have the most characters, right? No. Stop. Don't give me that "well FE is kinda popular in Japan" because, yes, it is, but it is far from being on the same level as Mario and Pokémon. You cannot compare them.
38:09 - 39:00 is the polite Japanese way of saying "suck it, Ono".
Yeah...I expected a Three Houses character. Even pointed it out in the recent stream. We were hoping for one of the other Lords, but it just couldn't not be Byleth.
Redfire085 Yea, they couldn’t just put in ONE lord from 3H, because then people would get even more mad that ‘why didn’t x lord get in and y lord did?!’ Of they were gonna add a 3H rep,then it was probs gonna be Byleth. I’m not liking the last costume tho, ngl. Buuuut people will swear their alliances on online by using the respective lord skins. I’m most likely gonna be a mix of Claude and Dimitri. Sorry el, I just now completed your route soo..
Now I know why he chose byleth because what are character is important enough for the story that is neutral mind u he probably wanted to stay neutral. He couldn’t confirm what was the most popular house (Black Eagles) because he started work on the character before the game come out. And choosing a character that’s only really important to one route of the game would be ignoring the other 2 routes
Spoilers
Yes I know there are 4 routes
Am i the only one who's excited for altair?
Add fuel to the fire that is the hype train, Ezio’s Family played in the background of that whole scene.
Yeah, people are gonna be salty that it's another FE character, but Byleth looks super fun to play as. I'm even considering maining Byleth now, even though I already main a FE character (Roy).
Oooo maybe we could get a Grass starter then. Like not part of Pokemon Trainer, more their own like Greninja and Incineroar. I would love Sceptile.
Decidueye could work too as the first "true" archer character.
Chesnaught could be an interesting tank.
Serperior would be super interesting as a mix of long reach and grappling.
And Rillaboom could be a mixed tank/sound range.
Realistically, there aren't many franchises left out of Smash that have a huge general appeal. Extra reps from existing franchises are always well received (except FE) and high sales and critical acclaim don't seem to be a factor in deciding who gets in.
After all, once upon a time a no name anime boi named Marth got into Melee.
FP2 will almost certainly disappoint people, because Ultimate has made a name of including everyone, and anyone rooting for a character that doesn't make it will feel increasingly snubbed.
Just throw away that wish list, you'll be happier in the long run.
So, I guess we should call this game Smash Emblem now?
That being said, My hopes for a Digimon Character as a Fighter have not been Murdered.....yet.
Isn't Digimon an anime thing though? So therefore it'd be in the same "no chance" boat as Goku?
@@crimsonwizahd2358 Considering there have been Digimon games on Nintendo Consoles (Nintendo Exclusives:Digimon World DS/Dawm&Dusk/Championship, a Digimon kart racer I forget the name of.) Your theory doesn't hold much water.
I was confused by the deep-voiced English Sakurai voice for a second.
I am currently playing through the Blue Lion campaign.
Also poor Sakurai.....he BETTER get a good LONG vacation,cause bless this man ;-;
Byleth - I Sleep
Cuphead - REAL SHIT!
Sakurai couldn’t help with the spoilers could he “here you see lady rheia, who you see fighting in the opening of three houses”
Sakurai, the player is not supposed to know that right off the bat. It’s supposed to hinted at over the game but believed that she was just a descendent of the person at the start. Good thing anyone who cared during the direct probably already played three houses.
Did people not notice that the music was a different pitch too?
So I’m excited for this even though I’ve never played any of the fire Emblem games
00:01 Nice trumpet remix
Hold on, I just picked up on something. Did Sakura complete Breath of the Wild in two days?
Lol I saw someone in chat say that Byleth now outranged Robin with the Failnaught. Ahaha, ahh...you clueless child
You've only played one route as well, eh Tom? I'm at one-and-a-half. Maybe this'll be the kicker I need to get back to playing the game again.
A surprise for sure, but a welcome one.
Well out of all the fire emblem characters I was hoping for my boy Hector since we had no axe boy yet but atleast we got someone with an axe lmao
I was hoping for Caeda, if she got in her reveal trailer would HAVE to be an emotional rollercoaster or they wouldn't be doing her enough justice.
DueNorth The Weeb I agree she would be a cool thats one thing they disappointed me with if they want to throw a bunch of fire emblem characters in a game why use all the sword users? Like theres plenty of other affintys like:axe, lance, bow, ninja, healer, and not to mention the magic types but they did add robin so ig i cant complain too much buttt.
This is the most muted reaction to a character i have seen from Tom
Maybe I'm missing something but I dont get why people want Dante.. Same for shadow before hand. As far as I know shadow is one of the most hated things from modern sonic, when did he become popular? When did a sudden popularity for Dante come from?
Tom is Sakurai confirmed.
Interesting... Petra, Lorenz, Dedue, and Flayn aren't Spirits...
Flayn's rather an odd omission.
I take it you changed the pitch to avoid copyrights?
Edit: Nevermind.
Oh I MISSED THIS?
*STUPID ME SLEEPING IN!*
Ladies and gentlemen
Time for Tom to create
*Suphead*
I can't say I'm surprised Byleth is in Smash.
floral fury time
I love Swiss Army Knife Marth.
Omg we got another fire emblem character in smash
as much as i dislike the announcement, this character looks very fun
What will you do?
SwordsWOMAN
Gatekeeper steppin up in life
His gimmick should've been divine pulse.
I am still very meh about the final choice, mainly because of the placement. It is ending this pack not with a bang but a whimper. Byleth should have been a bonus character for dlc pack 2 or the 7th fighter. It's like if you got great gifts for all the holidays of the year but got clothes during christmas, the final most anticipated day of the year. You'd be grateful but still feel very indifferent toward it.
Some people absolutely love getting new clothes, though.
I'm Surprised that He Didn't Laugh So much Like the Last One.