If Spectrasonics make a stage piano that includes all keyscape sounds (+ added new ones exclusively for the hardware) and has nice keybed handpicked by Eric Persing.....it will be GAME OVER.
It would be too expensive, because the processing power and memory required to run Keyscape would be WAY more expensive in a standalone piece of electronics versus living inside a computer you already own.
@@austinbiel Not necessarily. Computer processors running VSTs are inherently quite inefficient because CPUs have to be able to do anything you throw at them, be that video rendering, gaming, graphic design, whatever. Digital stage pianos are built on an entirely different engine and programming structure and can be streamlined for that purpose only. As a result you can achieve the same effective processing power for, say, simulating a piano, with a significantly less expensive hardware. Add in economies of scale and I think it is financially feasible. (not to say it wouldn't be an expensive bit of kit if it was made)
@@SeeBread Understood - considering striking the words "processing power" from my previous comment. Full version requires 80GB of space, Lite version 30GB. Ok, so maybe a USB stick is fast enough to hold all of that and stream it? But that is a ton of memory for sounds for a keyboard. Consider that most hardware keyboards compress their samples to save on space, and now add the processing power to not only uncompress those samples on the fly, but AT A MUCH HIGHER RESOLUTION and FAR LARGER samples for every note than what typical hardware keyboards use. I'm not an expert, but that does seem a tall-ish order. And then, if I'm Spectrasonics, maybe my hardware keyboard would/should have sounds from all of their products - Stylus RMX, Omnisphere, etc. and now maybe you gotta just do a subset of those sounds to fit, and on and on. My guess given Spectrasonics history that if they ever did a dedicated hardware keyboard, they would either make it synth-wet-dream CS-80-ish kind of product or it would be an entirely new animal. They are certainly innovative in their stance, and they haven't done a whole lot of repackaging old products in the last few years/..... I dunno - fun thought and conversation to have, tho
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I have Keyscape and when you play the low end softly, the harmonic richness and depth is orgasmic. In my opinion, Keyscape and Nord are both industry leaders for piano sounds.
The feeling I had when I played the keyscape library through a pro keybed for the first time is unmatched. Nord is convenient in terms of portability, but sound wise? It's not even close imo
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That’s Jim Wilson’s C7 in keyscape - it’s gorgeous. I have the pleasure of having Jim as my piano tech and friend. Every time he comes over to tune he does an equal dose of tuning and voicing to my piano and makes it more beautiful to play each time. The nord sounds like bright tin compared to the C7. Unreal.
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@@Elazarko +1 on this.... i'm on the eternal hunt for a decent 73 board for use with keyscape. I think the best bet atm is a yamaha cp73, I imagine it might be great for electric piano, so so for acoustic. I'v even considered chopping down a cp88!
@@Elazarko Hmm... How about a Juno DS 88? It has internal sounds in it... and It's a Juno. So expectation for that is quite well. Jack Reviewed it here in the Channel. Take a look at it. If you are a Yamaha Fan then try the new MODX6 Series. Just don't buy a regular midi keyboard IMO. =)
Eli K Yamaha CP73 with Keyscape in standalone mode through the Cp73 audio interface works superbly on my 2015 MacBook Pro with Mojave, no sound or stability issues. And only 1 usb lead required. Also as there plenty of knobs, buttons and switches available I have mapped many to Keyscape controls, which makes it feel more like hardware.
So. I have both! I have a Nord Piano 3 (amazing) and Keyscape. Here’s the truth. Keyscape is amazingly realistic when it comes to sound quality. Probably the warmest and most in depth piano library out currently in terms of richness. However, it doesn’t behave exactly like a piano should. It doesn’t have sympathetic resonance (unless you can tell me where it is because I PROMISE YOU, I’ve searched Hi and Lo and found nothing. And String Resonance is a BIG deal when it comes to playing piano when it comes to FEEL. The Newer Nords that are able to use the more recent sound library, are EXTREMELY great when it comes to how they feel. Playing Nord SOUNDS make you wanna play. That’s my 2 cents lol
Facts. As a Nord and Keyscape Owner, Keyscape has way more depth in their sounds...but it unlike Nord their sounds are not compressed for hardware piano use. This allows for so much more expression to be heard in every note, pedal noise, reverb, lid depth..etc.
Yep it's on by default, I think Jack forgets it hahaha! Anyways it was really a big difference when I hear the modeling of Keyscape, it's far beyond Nord IMO since you can hear the depth of it and how the frequencies react in each patch.
Now we're asking the real questions. What makes Keyscape sound excellent in the studio is its hindrance in a live context - too much lows, noise, stereo trickery, 'detail' - I found I had to tweak most of that out to get it to work live. No such problem with the Nord. Not to mention the absolute ballache of gigging with a laptop (did it for years, just ain't reliable enough). Nowadays my Nord lives in the car, wheels out and is set up in
@@Joshua308 Right? There's just something fundamentally different with VSTs - maybe it's how the DAC/amp stage of keyboards are designed vs. How a studio interfaces sound
@Joshua308 me the way i got it to cut was i use the natural settings i turned off the reverb and eq i thought i would miss it live but you cant tell we only can tell because we are keys players but i promise you wont miss it. I have the piano 5 me personally keyscape sounds better live to me as well i use the piano 5 because i spent all that money on it😂😂😂😂
I own the Stage 3, I really thought about getting Keyscape, I went with the Nord because I knew my CPU would hate me, my huge chords, scale runs, and organ slides, the Nord is totally independent of a computer, and I can warm up while my computer boots up, the dials and knobs are right in front of me. No menu diving, no audio drop outs or crackles, and the pitch bend is to die for. This move actually inspired me to invest in nothing but hardware from here on out, and with the right Midi routing, my computer can play the Nord and my interface can capture any corrections I’ve made to the performance. I found out recently that all the knobs can be automated within the daw, I have no regrets. I feel I’d eventually get worn out by CPU issues, storage, and the vst working when it wants to. My Nord won’t do me like that. Awesome comparison, Keyscape does sound amazing though, especially the Rhodes. I guess my issues are more with computers than the VST itself.
I had the same thoughts, but then still bought keyscape and omnisphere to supplement my NS3. I still use both regularly, but it only got better than I got a higher cpu/ram MacBook Pro
Heard, I’ll definitely look into beefing up my computer down the road, so it can really handle those VSTs. Spectronics makes killer sounds. Nothing kills inspiration like audio drop out, I’m also using OBS to create piano lessons so far the Nord has been amazing for that use too. Next goal: Buy a better PC.
I have the S3 88 and find the sound compressed, I can't get the feel of a solid piano. Last night I found its "Instant Calypso' preset, the piano sound is different sounding to the others and for the life of me I cannot see why, far punchier. For me, hardware beats computers for instant access, speed and reliability, but the Keyscape did sound great, maybe they could make a box with audio out, midi in and iPad support to control it? That would be great
For a better comparison, you should have recorded MIDI from the Nord and played it back on both Keyscape and Nord: #1 recording MIDI while listening to the Nord #2 recording MIDI while listening to Keyskape. Then playing MIDI back on each, switching A/B etc.
Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech: Man I like you pretty well, but man please check the settings of your Nord... Noah Wonder said it too. The Bright Filter and your Transpose was on. Sounds like nothing but this Filter (Transpose too) makes a huuugeee different. And if you compare, the Settings of Keyscape are the most time with effect (Rock Piano= Compression etc.), then pleeaasee give the Nord the chance to use the Comp too But actually I like your video...Sorry for my bad Englisch XD
Eric Persing was a chief sound designer for Roland before he left to form his own company and produce Keyscape and Omnisphere among other products. I've often thought that Omnisphere comes with presets that with a minimum of adjustment can knock the spots off just about every sound Roland keyboards can produce, right up to the Jupiter and Juno X. Persing was definitely the man to create sounds that can do that. Jack, that would be a really great test if you're up to it, comparing Fantom with Omnisphere! Thank you for the time you spent on this test. As an Omnisphere and Keyscape owner, along with Montage, OB6, and Prophet 6 (purchased at Andertons of course) I for one would be very interested to see what you might come up with.
@@OvidiuBolocan Well said! I did not own Keyscape when I commented, but now having tried both I'm quite disappointed by the Nord. Also, the EPs on my Kronos beat the hell out of the Nord's as well.
Maybe it ‘s the default settings on Keyscape, but the Nord sounds more set to cut through the mix. Typical of a good keyboard to be set for cutting through the mix in a loud band. Keyscape sounds warm, up close and personal, all in a high quality way but maybe with settings to make it cut through a band’s mix, it can replace the default Nord sound quality.
Keyscape crushes Nord in every dimension but I'd rather just use hardware sounds when playing live for convenience. VSTs are usually best left in the studio.
funny, i feel the opposite way. keep the hardware safe at home and use the softsynths live because you are only subjecting a replaceable midi controller to road abuse.
Keyscape all day long...Not cheap but a great recording tool. I was not expecting such a difference between the two pianos but wait 'til you hear the electrics!
I own Keyscape, it’s great specially combined with Omnisphere but Garritan CFX made me fall in love. The low end on the Garritan it’s the best I’ve heard in a VST.
I do not care how much the Nord boards cost. Its not enough to get me to claim it sounds better. It doesn't. Keyscape sounds way better, more options, more versatile and a TENTH of the cost! I personally can design a redundant, road-ready, reliable system with extremely fast load times. I can include all my favorite Keys libraries, a DAW that does EVERYTHING, two laptops, and two controllers... And still cost less than the Stage 3!
100% true man. I have a stage 2, and recently got keyscape. All I can say is wow. Keyscape was like an emotional experience for me. Its just so real. The nord at first was like that. But after hearing it for 7 years and then going to keyscape it was like all over again for me. Plus like you said, it loads fast and the midi part is just a complete life changing product
Exactly. I personally own a 2019 Macbook Pro 16 with 1TB & 16Gb of ram, Apollo MKII, keyscape & Omnisphere 2 & last but not least a yamaha YC88 with that awsome NWGH keybed. Its game over man the best of both worlds. Perfect for worship service.
Anyone willing to pay 10X times the cost for anything with not even half the quality of the alternative, just for the convenience of having it one minute faster, please raise your hand! I know there are countless corporations like McDonalds that would LOVE to know how to make 10 times the money for producing less...
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Been waiting for a video like this. If you’re gigging, the Nord is the best compromise between convenience and sound quality (the brightness and compression serves that purpose) and that’s what you’re paying for. But if you’re recording or just playing at home for pleasure or recording, Keyscape + great controller all the way. Do the EPs!
I love both, for different reasons. The Keyscape has a much "fuller" sound than the Nord, whereas the Nord would "cut" thru on a live mix. For my applications, the Keyscape wins, for price if nothing else. These are my opinions. Thanks for the video!!
Keyscape is smooth. It speaks to my soul. It's round. It's so deep and feels so real. Nord is a very well build machine for live and better of its competitors in every way but not even close to the human touch of Keyscape.
You guys have to think about the use of the product. If you’re playing through a sound system in large setting with other instruments, the Nord is going to cut through the mix. The sampled sounds in keyscape are isolated and great for recording for less instruments in the mix.
When comparing the 2. might be an idea to record into a DAW whilst playing, then simply play back the same midi to the other instrument. Makes it easier to also mess with the presets/settings for a piece. BTW, lovely playing, as ever by Jack. If he could supply the MIDI for what he plays, that would be good too. Then we could find out what "a proper pianist" sounds like with our fav VST
Honestly we are comparing 5,000$ nord and 379$ keyscape have out did theirselves. Shoutout to spectrasonics. Helping bank accounts and making future stars.
I finally pulled the trigger and got a copy of keyscape yesterday can't wait for it to get here I just bought new monitors for them to go threw yea I'm excited
Thanks for fulfilling this request Jack :) fascinating going between them. I will say I can definately hear the noise floor with keyscape but it could just be the gain settings.
I don't own any of them, but based on this video, taking into account the RUclips sound degradation, I really think Keyscape is better. The sound is more natural, more vibrant, the NS3 is brighter but sounds "generated"... My two cents.
I find the Nord sound being really clean and slightly bright however the sound of Keyscape is to fall in love with, such a beautiful tone, plus all the notes seem to gel together rather than resonate individually. I think the battle of virtual pianos is no longer how you sample a piano as most of them technically are briliant. Rather it is all about the choice master actual acoustic piano that was chosen to create the samples.
Jack you’re a beast on the keys mate! Love the A to B of each product, I’m totally with you on the sound of the Keyscape. I use the Ravenscroft 275 both on iPad and on my MacBook Pro which is a killer piano to use. I recently purchased a Yamaha CP88 which I love especially the beautiful real wooden key action and with the 1.3 update with new ep’s and a CP3 piano. However, I still find I go back to the Ravenscroft 275 on my MacBook as it’s so tweekable and has full sympathetic resonance to die for. Plus the Una Corda samples are beautiful to play in conjunction with the sustain pedal, you really feel like you’re at a real pianoforte! Keep the videos coming as they are so informative, I live in Cornwall now but used to live in Surrey and have purchased many an instrument from Andertons over the years. It is the coolest shop I’ve been too where you can try out instruments and not feel hassled into buying a product, and I’ve often come back and bought the very instrument you’ve let me try out. I’ve been going to your shop since the early 1980s and just wish I lived closer to where your shop is. Keep up the great work even in these demanding times. We need to keep shops like yours around forever! Anthony.
This is so interesting to me where we are at! Basically if you want a great keybed get one from a great company. If you want a great sound get one from a great company, but they can't seem to do both. Either of them. Could be wrong of course. As soon as I post this Spectrasonics will do it. We are in such a great place for portable piano! The 80s stage piano days are over! Thank Bajebus! My PC88 can now rest eternally. Poor thing has carried the stage piano world for so long! HAHAHA. I love my Keyscape and Keylab 88 MkII
4:12 why you used the "bright" filter setting for Nord's Royal Grand 3D ? Sounds much brighter than it actually should. I'm the hardware guy on stage and the huge and refined Keyscape's library only pays off if you do lots of acoustic piano stuff. In a live band situation I prefer sounds that cut easily through the rest of the band, not to mention some festival scenarios with tight changover slots and so on. Also, it's absolutely necessary to have some high-quality keybed while using Keyscape and it might be necessary to spend some time fine-tuning the velocity curves to get the right feeling of connection between samples and keybed.
Amen! Keyscape is wonderful, but I’ll never be on a stage with only a laptop and a midi keyboard. When I play Keyscape live I always have my Nord Stage as a controller, and one press of a button will switch to the internal sound of the Stage. And I totally agree that quite alot of lush and detailed sounds don’t always cut through live. Most sound engineers prefer Yamaha piano sounds for punch in a PA. Would love a super solid hardware version of Keyscape, though.
As much as we talk about Nord and that in general everyone likes it immensely, I still think that the pianos are all compressed and they lack the true natural sound ... in band it works but here the difference is huge !!!
Nice video. Keyscape sounds good, but I like the sound of the Nord better. Keyscape seems to have a slower and softer attack, and the Nord has more sustain, maybe because of running through the cables and the preamps. The Nord tone sounds more lively to my ears. Maybe its me, but that's what I hear..
Yep. Agree. I’ve tried alot (and i do mean alot) of vst pianos, but I always seem to come back to my Nord Stage 3 and the Royal Grand 3D(without the filter set to bright, like in the video). Just lovin it.
They're both technically virtual grand piano sounds - the benefit of computer VSTs is you can add to them and get updates over time. I have a 10 year old Yamaha and I would be forced to buy a new one to get the latest tricks when I could spend a lot less on computer software and just run a MIDI USB cable.
I spent loads on VSTs 15 years ago, now they no longer work due to copy protection changes (thanks NI!), computer upgrades, losing serial numbers or install discs. My hardware synths work just as well today. I love VSTs that push tech to the limit but hardware just works without the computer hassle.
Wow... Huge thanks for the video comparison. Really well done. Absolutely gorgeous sounds from both. You can't go wrong with either. That said... Like many others, I don't have the budget for a $4,700 Nord Stage 3, even though I _love_ hardware. I did, however, just order the $380 Keyscape boxed version for my wife to give to me for Christmas... ;-) Cheers, mate!
nord grand piano is really nice for live keyscape grand is wonderfully rich for studio use, to much noises for live use tho i think nord really nails the upright piano tho, keyscape is a bit too "muted" sounding for me. nord upright is speaking, keyscape sounds shy
Nord is for the gigg. Keyscape is for home use. Both got incredible high quality sounds. I would buy Keyscape to have that soundquality at home. If I would perform with a band , the Nord would be the better option. Thx for comparisson!!
Keyscape sounded more authentic, but the Nord sounds like Nord. So, if that's what you want, then Keyscape doesn't cut it. It's all subjective, both seem great. I think the feel and connection to the sound you are hearing is important.
I was in need of a new keyboard for being able to play at night when the kids were in bed, unable to play the grand piano because of the loud noise. The keyboard I have is the Korg M3 which has terrible piano's on board, so I had to make a choice. Do I go for Keyscape or a Nord Piano because I knew they are quite good. Still glad I went for Keyscape. Not only because of the nice piano's but also for the unmatched electric piano's. So Mr. Andertons please make a video where you compare the Nord with the electric piano's of Keyscape!
Short answer-- yes, haha. Keyscape is really dope. But I'm still obsessed with the Nord Piano Library. At 100mb or less (on average) for those pianos... it's insane how good they sound. Absolutely INSANE how good they sound... the uprights, the grands, the Rhodes, the Wurly. I still don't know how Nord fit those amazing libraries into such a small slab of memory. But it's legit. Keyscape is insane, though.
I think it's all about, tatste, preference and moto. I've been into pianos stores and tried several Yamahas, Baldwins and other brand and even the same brand nd piano model have unique timbre, so, you choose your taste, Here both sound amazing,
I love both collections of pianos, all beautiful flavours. I can't help thinking that the Keyscape ones have a funny bump in the EQ: like, an exagerated over-resonance in the high bass/low mids. Other than that, Nord & K.S. are just two different sets of delicious instruments.
You should try a PC w/audio interface. A homebuilt PC can run circles around Macs for a third of the price, plus you can game on the PC while the Mac is just so-so for gaming. An average PC won't break a sweat running anything by Spectrasonics. I have Omnisphere and looking to add Keyscape. I can instantly switch sounds without any delay at all; 64 GB ram and 1TB ssd M.2 drive, and still using a 6 year old AsRock motherboard/i7-8700K cpu (paid about $1k for all these parts at the time. I could put it up against a $4000 Mac Studio.) There's nothing technical about building your own, plus you can easily upgrade it. Try upgrading a Mac with the newest graphics card or more SSD memory, (you can't). There are plenty of DIY youtube videos on this. Linus Tech Tips is one of the more popular ones.
I don't think this really matters, but I think the notes we are hearing in the video are off by a semi-tone (i.e. when you play a "B" in the left hand, it comes out as a "C").
Nord might be more subtle and intimate than you think. The piano filter on the Royal grand 3D on the nord was in bright mode during the video(I dont know if Jack was aware of the fact?).
The convenience and sound quality of the Nord [Stage or Electro] make it a must have for gigging keyboardists. Keyscape is too complicated for the stage (for me) and belongs in the studio - or in a real tour setup for a roadie to manage.
@@JSBach-pd4yg It seem lost on people who screaming 'laptop and midi-controller!' that not everyone likes using laptops for live performances. It's a personal thing. I know someone who stopped using hardware synths for controller and laptop for about five years and eventually went back to hardware synths. He said he simply wanted something reliable and less complicated. I frankly don't hear any major difference between high end hardware synths/workstations and VSTs.
Very good video with honest comparison. Well done ! If i can make one comment though , the title is misleading as in my opinion, comparing a virtual instrument to the real deal means comparing Keyscape or Nord to a real acoustic grand. Neither KS or Nord are the real deal. They both use similar methodology , using sampling recorded sounds with a similar approach to model an acoustic instrument with a proprietary algorithm. The key difference is that Nord stage integrates all components keyboard, modelling software , and sound section in a single package whereby Keyscape only provides the modelling portion. A key advantage of integrated solutions is that the modelling algorithm is tuned to provide the best solution for the key action of their keyboard, whereby you have to do a lot of playing with all parameters : velocity curves, decay, reverb , pedal parameters etc to adapt Keyscape to any midi keyboard you are going to be using. Key advantage of separated solutions (Keyscape or other) is that you can replace/upgrade any components when needed.
I figured out a key difference in the panning you can hear for, it seems like the keyscapes is like most Vsts in the fact that you pan left harder the lower you get (or pan right the higher notes). however on the nord I hear a more Realistic envolvent sound because the panning is way more subtle and there's more bleed from the left channel to the right and vise versa.
I feel like the keyscapes give you a more raw sound and feel, more natural acoustic sound. Nord feels a bit more cleaned up. So I guess whatever you’re looking for in that regard. I’m sure each of them can be adjusted in either direction though.
Awesome review and comparison. Like you said, keyscape sounds way more close miked and more characterful, whereas the nord sounds lovely but much more for a pop type or band mix situation, where I'd imagine it will cut through much better. My two cents. Nice playing btw !
It's unimaginable what a difference soft release does against Nord in this case. It's very clear when Jack compares the bright version of Keyscape with the Royal Grand 3D. Dampers cut the sound off quickly in Keyscape while Nord's sound comes as slightly prolonged, giving us a digital impression. With that being said Keyscape is outstanding. Everything there is well beyond words. The absolute same thing can be said for this youtube channel.
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If Spectrasonics make a stage piano that includes all keyscape sounds (+ added new ones exclusively for the hardware) and has nice keybed handpicked by Eric Persing.....it will be GAME OVER.
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That would blow up the music industry lol
It would be too expensive, because the processing power and memory required to run Keyscape would be WAY more expensive in a standalone piece of electronics versus living inside a computer you already own.
@@austinbiel Not necessarily. Computer processors running VSTs are inherently quite inefficient because CPUs have to be able to do anything you throw at them, be that video rendering, gaming, graphic design, whatever. Digital stage pianos are built on an entirely different engine and programming structure and can be streamlined for that purpose only. As a result you can achieve the same effective processing power for, say, simulating a piano, with a significantly less expensive hardware. Add in economies of scale and I think it is financially feasible. (not to say it wouldn't be an expensive bit of kit if it was made)
@@SeeBread Understood - considering striking the words "processing power" from my previous comment. Full version requires 80GB of space, Lite version 30GB. Ok, so maybe a USB stick is fast enough to hold all of that and stream it? But that is a ton of memory for sounds for a keyboard. Consider that most hardware keyboards compress their samples to save on space, and now add the processing power to not only uncompress those samples on the fly, but AT A MUCH HIGHER RESOLUTION and FAR LARGER samples for every note than what typical hardware keyboards use. I'm not an expert, but that does seem a tall-ish order. And then, if I'm Spectrasonics, maybe my hardware keyboard would/should have sounds from all of their products - Stylus RMX, Omnisphere, etc. and now maybe you gotta just do a subset of those sounds to fit, and on and on. My guess given Spectrasonics history that if they ever did a dedicated hardware keyboard, they would either make it synth-wet-dream CS-80-ish kind of product or it would be an entirely new animal. They are certainly innovative in their stance, and they haven't done a whole lot of repackaging old products in the last few years/..... I dunno - fun thought and conversation to have, tho
This guy must have played in church at some point or another because every time I hear him play, I want to pray 🤣🙏🏾🙌🏾🔥
lol exactly!
Yeah he always throws some gospel soul in his mixes I feel
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Lots of triads. That's the sound of gospel piano.
Keyscape is out of this world.
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I have Keyscape and when you play the low end softly, the harmonic richness and depth is orgasmic. In my opinion, Keyscape and Nord are both industry leaders for piano sounds.
did you really say orgasmic
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The feeling I had when I played the keyscape library through a pro keybed for the first time is unmatched. Nord is convenient in terms of portability, but sound wise? It's not even close imo
Nordlead synths are hyper overrated in my opinion...
i always thought mine (NS288) was defective for having hardly any dynamics.
Both thumbs up!
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That’s Jim Wilson’s C7 in keyscape - it’s gorgeous. I have the pleasure of having Jim as my piano tech and friend. Every time he comes over to tune he does an equal dose of tuning and voicing to my piano and makes it more beautiful to play each time. The nord sounds like bright tin compared to the C7. Unreal.
JESUS CHRIST died for you on a cross for our sins. 3 days after his death he resurrected and is The TRUE LIVING GOD. In a prayer repent from your sins and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior in a prayer and also ask for the HOLY SPIRIT to come into you in that same prayer as well. Have FAITH in CHRIST. You could come to Jesus Christ as you are, but once you accept Him, you have to become new, change, and be born again, and turn away from all wicked ways. Jesus Christ is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. God Bless You. JESUS CHRIST IS COMING BACK SOON.
No, he's not@@ZyroPapuchon18
Keyscape, Omnispehere... One of the Best in the Industry.... Pick any Keyboard with a good key feel and you are good to go.
Any recommendation for a good 73/76 key keyboard/synth/piano with the main priority being the keybed feel for around $1000?
@@Elazarko +1 on this.... i'm on the eternal hunt for a decent 73 board for use with keyscape. I think the best bet atm is a yamaha cp73, I imagine it might be great for electric piano, so so for acoustic. I'v even considered chopping down a cp88!
@@Elazarko Hmm... How about a Juno DS 88? It has internal sounds in it... and It's a Juno. So expectation for that is quite well. Jack Reviewed it here in the Channel. Take a look at it. If you are a Yamaha Fan then try the new MODX6 Series. Just don't buy a regular midi keyboard IMO. =)
Eli K Yamaha CP73 with Keyscape in standalone mode through the Cp73 audio interface works superbly on my 2015 MacBook Pro with Mojave, no sound or stability issues. And only 1 usb lead required. Also as there plenty of knobs, buttons and switches available I have mapped many to Keyscape controls, which makes it feel more like hardware.
@@galastar257 im looking into the cp73 how do you like the key action?! i have a ds88 and it feels like the keys take forever to come back up
So. I have both! I have a Nord Piano 3 (amazing) and Keyscape.
Here’s the truth.
Keyscape is amazingly realistic when it comes to sound quality. Probably the warmest and most in depth piano library out currently in terms of richness. However, it doesn’t behave exactly like a piano should.
It doesn’t have sympathetic resonance (unless you can tell me where it is because I PROMISE YOU, I’ve searched Hi and Lo and found nothing. And String Resonance is a BIG deal when it comes to playing piano when it comes to FEEL.
The Newer Nords that are able to use the more recent sound library, are EXTREMELY great when it comes to how they feel. Playing Nord SOUNDS make you wanna play.
That’s my 2 cents lol
the half step transposition trips me out so much during the overhead shots 🤣
Nord has fantastic build quality, but can't hang with the sheer size, expressiveness or tone quality of Keyscape
Facts. As a Nord and Keyscape Owner, Keyscape has way more depth in their sounds...but it unlike Nord their sounds are not compressed for hardware piano use. This allows for so much more expression to be heard in every note, pedal noise, reverb, lid depth..etc.
Nord is not even close in sound quality and usability in the studio. Keyscape wins!
Plastic keys
Let’s not overrate their build quality.
I disagree.
It looks like the bright filter on the Nord was turned on most of the time. Maybe that is why it was more bright...
Well spotted, didnt notice til u said
Yep it's on by default, I think Jack forgets it hahaha! Anyways it was really a big difference when I hear the modeling of Keyscape, it's far beyond Nord IMO since you can hear the depth of it and how the frequencies react in each patch.
Transpose +1 was also on. He played D major, we heard Eb major ;)
Not Maybe... I use the Nord often and this makes a huuuuugeeee different :///
Alexander Nagel it was the same key
Needed to hear the Rhodes!
Now we're asking the real questions. What makes Keyscape sound excellent in the studio is its hindrance in a live context - too much lows, noise, stereo trickery, 'detail' - I found I had to tweak most of that out to get it to work live. No such problem with the Nord. Not to mention the absolute ballache of gigging with a laptop (did it for years, just ain't reliable enough). Nowadays my Nord lives in the car, wheels out and is set up in
I never cut through the mix when using keyscape or other VST
@@Joshua308 Right? There's just something fundamentally different with VSTs - maybe it's how the DAC/amp stage of keyboards are designed vs. How a studio interfaces sound
@Joshua308 me the way i got it to cut was i use the natural settings i turned off the reverb and eq i thought i would miss it live but you cant tell we only can tell because we are keys players but i promise you wont miss it. I have the piano 5 me personally keyscape sounds better live to me as well i use the piano 5 because i spent all that money on it😂😂😂😂
I own the Stage 3, I really thought about getting Keyscape, I went with the Nord because I knew my CPU would hate me, my huge chords, scale runs, and organ slides, the Nord is totally independent of a computer, and I can warm up while my computer boots up, the dials and knobs are right in front of me. No menu diving, no audio drop outs or crackles, and the pitch bend is to die for. This move actually inspired me to invest in nothing but hardware from here on out, and with the right Midi routing, my computer can play the Nord and my interface can capture any corrections I’ve made to the performance. I found out recently that all the knobs can be automated within the daw, I have no regrets. I feel I’d eventually get worn out by CPU issues, storage, and the vst working when it wants to. My Nord won’t do me like that. Awesome comparison, Keyscape does sound amazing though, especially the Rhodes. I guess my issues are more with computers than the VST itself.
I had the same thoughts, but then still bought keyscape and omnisphere to supplement my NS3. I still use both regularly, but it only got better than I got a higher cpu/ram MacBook Pro
Heard, I’ll definitely look into beefing up my computer down the road, so it can really handle those VSTs. Spectronics makes killer sounds. Nothing kills inspiration like audio drop out, I’m also using OBS to create piano lessons so far the Nord has been amazing for that use too.
Next goal: Buy a better PC.
I have the S3 88 and find the sound compressed, I can't get the feel of a solid piano. Last night I found its "Instant Calypso' preset, the piano sound is different sounding to the others and for the life of me I cannot see why, far punchier. For me, hardware beats computers for instant access, speed and reliability, but the Keyscape did sound great, maybe they could make a box with audio out, midi in and iPad support to control it? That would be great
Jack Duxbury, a masterclass in playing with feel. What a class act.
Woah! Super cool hearing them side by side. NORD sounds great at gigs. Keyscape is perfect for the studio.
Hi. Can't i do Keyscape in gigs and make it like Nord some how?
@@zvibtm1 Absolutely however the experience of immediacy /latency maybe an issue
@@zvibtm1 you can but i dont think its worth it
Would like to see Jack do a deep dive with Keyscape, love his playing!
For a better comparison, you should have recorded MIDI from the Nord and played it back on both Keyscape and Nord: #1 recording MIDI while listening to the Nord #2 recording MIDI while listening to Keyskape. Then playing MIDI back on each, switching A/B etc.
Andertons Synths, Keys and Tech: Man I like you pretty well, but man please check the settings of your Nord... Noah Wonder said it too. The Bright Filter and your Transpose was on. Sounds like nothing but this Filter (Transpose too) makes a huuugeee different. And if you compare, the Settings of Keyscape are the most time with effect (Rock Piano= Compression etc.), then pleeaasee give the Nord the chance to use the Comp too
But actually I like your video...Sorry for my bad Englisch XD
Eric Persing was a chief sound designer for Roland before he left to form his own company and produce Keyscape and Omnisphere among other products. I've often thought that Omnisphere comes with presets that with a minimum of adjustment can knock the spots off just about every sound Roland keyboards can produce, right up to the Jupiter and Juno X. Persing was definitely the man to create sounds that can do that. Jack, that would be a really great test if you're up to it, comparing Fantom with Omnisphere! Thank you for the time you spent on this test. As an Omnisphere and Keyscape owner, along with Montage, OB6, and Prophet 6 (purchased at Andertons of course) I for one would be very interested to see what you might come up with.
I'd love to see the Electric Piano sounds compared between the two.
You can't compare them man. When you play keyscape EPs for a while, nord EPs just sound childish
@@OvidiuBolocan Well said! I did not own Keyscape when I commented, but now having tried both I'm quite disappointed by the Nord. Also, the EPs on my Kronos beat the hell out of the Nord's as well.
Maybe it ‘s the default settings on Keyscape, but the Nord sounds more set to cut through the mix. Typical of a good keyboard to be set for cutting through the mix in a loud band.
Keyscape sounds warm, up close and personal, all in a high quality way but maybe with settings to make it cut through a band’s mix, it can replace the default Nord sound quality.
Keyscape crushes Nord in every dimension but I'd rather just use hardware sounds when playing live for convenience. VSTs are usually best left in the studio.
funny, i feel the opposite way. keep the hardware safe at home and use the softsynths live because you are only subjecting a replaceable midi controller to road abuse.
VST best plugin for my nice in studio
The Nord patches are so phenomenal!
Keyscape all day long...Not cheap but a great recording tool. I was not expecting such a difference between the two pianos but wait 'til you hear the electrics!
I'd love to see a comparison between some of the electric pianos from the two of them
That Outro tone was beautiful 💙 Thanks for this. It was really informative and inspiring at the same time.
You're welcome! We are glad you enjoyed the video...
@@AndertonsKeyboardDept Hi Jack, you can use the 'Macs Fan Control' application to control the annoying fan speed :-)
I own Keyscape, it’s great specially combined with Omnisphere but Garritan CFX made me fall in love. The low end on the Garritan it’s the best I’ve heard in a VST.
Yes, but have you heard the new VSL Bösendorfer Concert Grand 290 Imperial? YT search it with Jordan Rudess. Mind blowing. Hide your wallet.
I do not care how much the Nord boards cost. Its not enough to get me to claim it sounds better. It doesn't. Keyscape sounds way better, more options, more versatile and a TENTH of the cost! I personally can design a redundant, road-ready, reliable system with extremely fast load times. I can include all my favorite Keys libraries, a DAW that does EVERYTHING, two laptops, and two controllers... And still cost less than the Stage 3!
100% true man. I have a stage 2, and recently got keyscape. All I can say is wow. Keyscape was like an emotional experience for me. Its just so real. The nord at first was like that. But after hearing it for 7 years and then going to keyscape it was like all over again for me. Plus like you said, it loads fast and the midi part is just a complete life changing product
Exactly. I personally own a 2019 Macbook Pro 16 with 1TB & 16Gb of ram, Apollo MKII, keyscape & Omnisphere 2 & last but not least a yamaha YC88 with that awsome NWGH keybed. Its game over man the best of both worlds. Perfect for worship service.
Not everyone wants to fire up their laptop every time they wanna practice or play a gig.
Anyone willing to pay 10X times the cost for anything with not even half the quality of the alternative, just for the convenience of having it one minute faster, please raise your hand! I know there are countless corporations like McDonalds that would LOVE to know how to make 10 times the money for producing less...
@@RamonRodgers I literally spent the past few days looking at different plugins and gear so I can make my work flow faster and more efficient 😂 it’s impossible not to chase efficiency
Been waiting for a video like this. If you’re gigging, the Nord is the best compromise between convenience and sound quality (the brightness and compression serves that purpose) and that’s what you’re paying for. But if you’re recording or just playing at home for pleasure or recording, Keyscape + great controller all the way. Do the EPs!
This was SO good !! Would love to hear electric pianos, yes please
Just a spec observation...Nord Stage 3 has a total of 2 GB piano sample memory. The LA Custom C7 grand in Keyscape is 64 GB in size by itself
Wow really.....thats huge diff
@@pobbob335 15 years ago, sure. But storage is cheap now days and it's insane how piano companies put in so little
@@Kougeru The memory inside the NORD boards is NOT the cheap type of memory you're thinking of... That's why ;)
Alexander Nagel He’s talking about storage size not RAM.
I wouldn’t focus on size too much, while yes it can be a good metric of the sample sizes, you could also sample garbage at very high bitrates 🤣
I love both, for different reasons. The Keyscape has a much "fuller" sound than the Nord, whereas the Nord would "cut" thru on a live mix. For my applications, the Keyscape wins, for price if nothing else. These are my opinions. Thanks for the video!!
I'm a guitarist who messes around with keyboard for a laugh. Keyscape makes me sound good. 5 stars!!
Keyscape is smooth. It speaks to my soul. It's round. It's so deep and feels so real. Nord is a very well build machine for live and better of its competitors in every way but not even close to the human touch of Keyscape.
You guys have to think about the use of the product. If you’re playing through a sound system in large setting with other instruments, the Nord is going to cut through the mix. The sampled sounds in keyscape are isolated and great for recording for less instruments in the mix.
Great comparison Jack! Looking forward to EPs video...
When comparing the 2. might be an idea to record into a DAW whilst playing, then simply play back the same midi to the other instrument. Makes it easier to also mess with the presets/settings for a piece.
BTW, lovely playing, as ever by Jack. If he could supply the MIDI for what he plays, that would be good too. Then we could find out what "a proper pianist" sounds like with our fav VST
I absolutely love Keyscape! Great video man.
YES ... Keyscape sounds much more natural and realistic to me. The Nord hits you over the head, and sounds much more fake.
Honestly we are comparing 5,000$ nord and 379$ keyscape have out did theirselves. Shoutout to spectrasonics. Helping bank accounts and making future stars.
The difference to me is that the midi piano sounds like it's in a box and the Nord sounds open and light
the difference is in the playability, since you have to adjust the velocity curve on the Keyscape for the Nord keyboard to make it respond nicer..
I prefer the Nord.
Same
Teacher Warren was here,whattttt?!??!?!
I finally pulled the trigger and got a copy of keyscape yesterday can't wait for it to get here I just bought new monitors for them to go threw yea I'm excited
I got a Nord Stage 2 but always have Keyscape with me on stage for the Rhodes and LA Grand. Just a Great combination.
Thanks! Love the vibes on the last closing gig.
Keyscape for me. Sounds so natural and it has that crazy little shimmer going on.
Thanks for fulfilling this request Jack :) fascinating going between them. I will say I can definately hear the noise floor with keyscape but it could just be the gain settings.
No kidding. I'm wondering what's up with the floor. Something's off.
I own both, Keyscape and the Nord Stage 3. I prefer the Nord for grand piano sounds but use Keyscape specific for the gorgeous Fender Rhodes.
I don't own any of them, but based on this video, taking into account the RUclips sound degradation, I really think Keyscape is better. The sound is more natural, more vibrant, the NS3 is brighter but sounds "generated"... My two cents.
I find the Nord sound being really clean and slightly bright however the sound of Keyscape is to fall in love with, such a beautiful tone, plus all the notes seem to gel together rather than resonate individually. I think the battle of virtual pianos is no longer how you sample a piano as most of them technically are briliant. Rather it is all about the choice master actual acoustic piano that was chosen to create the samples.
Jack you’re a beast on the keys mate! Love the A to B of each product, I’m totally with you on the sound of the Keyscape. I use the Ravenscroft 275 both on iPad and on my MacBook Pro which is a killer piano to use. I recently purchased a Yamaha CP88 which I love especially the beautiful real wooden key action and with the 1.3 update with new ep’s and a CP3 piano. However, I still find I go back to the Ravenscroft 275 on my MacBook as it’s so tweekable and has full sympathetic resonance to die for. Plus the Una Corda samples are beautiful to play in conjunction with the sustain pedal, you really feel like you’re at a real pianoforte! Keep the videos coming as they are so informative, I live in Cornwall now but used to live in Surrey and have purchased many an instrument from Andertons over the years. It is the coolest shop I’ve been too where you can try out instruments and not feel hassled into buying a product, and I’ve often come back and bought the very instrument you’ve let me try out. I’ve been going to your shop since the early 1980s and just wish I lived closer to where your shop is. Keep up the great work even in these demanding times. We need to keep shops like yours around forever! Anthony.
MrCerddoriaeth Ravenscroft is a beast! With my iPad hidden on my live setup, it throws people off!
Great stuff Jack this is very relevant for me at the moment would love to see more Keyscape content
EP Comparisons next!!! Great playing as usual
5:30 ...ok sir. I hear you. Thank you for all the great videos!
Great video again Jack. I'd love to hear a comparison between the Yamaha Reface CP and the Keyscape CP70 please. Stay safe guys.
I would love to see an ep/clav comparison!
Hey Jack! Great content! It itnseems you had Bright Filter turned on on the Nord making.
What do I need to search if I want to listen to this type of music all day??????!!!! This is incredible
This is so interesting to me where we are at! Basically if you want a great keybed get one from a great company. If you want a great sound get one from a great company, but they can't seem to do both. Either of them. Could be wrong of course. As soon as I post this Spectrasonics will do it. We are in such a great place for portable piano! The 80s stage piano days are over! Thank Bajebus! My PC88 can now rest eternally. Poor thing has carried the stage piano world for so long! HAHAHA. I love my Keyscape and Keylab 88 MkII
4:12 why you used the "bright" filter setting for Nord's Royal Grand 3D ? Sounds much brighter than it actually should. I'm the hardware guy on stage and the huge and refined Keyscape's library only pays off if you do lots of acoustic piano stuff. In a live band situation I prefer sounds that cut easily through the rest of the band, not to mention some festival scenarios with tight changover slots and so on. Also, it's absolutely necessary to have some high-quality keybed while using Keyscape and it might be necessary to spend some time fine-tuning the velocity curves to get the right feeling of connection between samples and keybed.
Amen! Keyscape is wonderful, but I’ll never be on a stage with only a laptop and a midi keyboard. When I play Keyscape live I always have my Nord Stage as a controller, and one press of a button will switch to the internal sound of the Stage. And I totally agree that quite alot of lush and detailed sounds don’t always cut through live. Most sound engineers prefer Yamaha piano sounds for punch in a PA. Would love a super solid hardware version of Keyscape, though.
They both sound completely awesome and incredible. More than that, you sound great and incredible. Thanks for the video
@@johanjackjack4917 get this outta here. lame
As much as we talk about Nord and that in general everyone likes it immensely, I still think that the pianos are all compressed and they lack the true natural sound ... in band it works but here the difference is huge !!!
Nice video. Keyscape sounds good, but I like the sound of the Nord better. Keyscape seems to have a slower and softer attack, and the Nord has more sustain, maybe because of running through the cables and the preamps. The Nord tone sounds more lively to my ears. Maybe its me, but that's what I hear..
Yep. Agree. I’ve tried alot (and i do mean alot) of vst pianos, but I always seem to come back to my Nord Stage 3 and the Royal Grand 3D(without the filter set to bright, like in the video). Just lovin it.
They're both technically virtual grand piano sounds - the benefit of computer VSTs is you can add to them and get updates over time. I have a 10 year old Yamaha and I would be forced to buy a new one to get the latest tricks when I could spend a lot less on computer software and just run a MIDI USB cable.
I spent loads on VSTs 15 years ago, now they no longer work due to copy protection changes (thanks NI!), computer upgrades, losing serial numbers or install discs. My hardware synths work just as well today.
I love VSTs that push tech to the limit but hardware just works without the computer hassle.
Wow... Huge thanks for the video comparison. Really well done. Absolutely gorgeous sounds from both. You can't go wrong with either. That said...
Like many others, I don't have the budget for a $4,700 Nord Stage 3, even though I _love_ hardware. I did, however, just order the $380 Keyscape boxed version for my wife to give to me for Christmas... ;-)
Cheers, mate!
nord grand piano is really nice for live
keyscape grand is wonderfully rich for studio use, to much noises for live use tho
i think nord really nails the upright piano tho, keyscape is a bit too "muted" sounding for me. nord upright is speaking, keyscape sounds shy
Nord is for the gigg. Keyscape is for home use. Both got incredible high quality sounds. I would buy Keyscape to have that soundquality at home. If I would perform with a band , the Nord would be the better option. Thx for comparisson!!
That C7 in KS is so well sampled.
Keyscape sounded more authentic, but the Nord sounds like Nord. So, if that's what you want, then Keyscape doesn't cut it. It's all subjective, both seem great. I think the feel and connection to the sound you are hearing is important.
Fantastic video... Jack, could you say or write in the description what you are playing in every moment? Thanks!
Awesome playing my man. Lots of love.
I was in need of a new keyboard for being able to play at night when the kids were in bed, unable to play the grand piano because of the loud noise. The keyboard I have is the Korg M3 which has terrible piano's on board, so I had to make a choice. Do I go for Keyscape or a Nord Piano because I knew they are quite good. Still glad I went for Keyscape. Not only because of the nice piano's but also for the unmatched electric piano's. So Mr. Andertons please make a video where you compare the Nord with the electric piano's of Keyscape!
Short answer-- yes, haha. Keyscape is really dope. But I'm still obsessed with the Nord Piano Library. At 100mb or less (on average) for those pianos... it's insane how good they sound. Absolutely INSANE how good they sound... the uprights, the grands, the Rhodes, the Wurly. I still don't know how Nord fit those amazing libraries into such a small slab of memory. But it's legit. Keyscape is insane, though.
I think it's all about, tatste, preference and moto. I've been into pianos stores and tried several Yamahas, Baldwins and other brand and even the same brand nd piano model have unique timbre, so, you choose your taste, Here both sound amazing,
so its running on the macbook, but what is producing the sound? External Speakers somewhere?
I love both collections of pianos, all beautiful flavours. I can't help thinking that the Keyscape ones have a funny bump in the EQ: like, an exagerated over-resonance in the high bass/low mids. Other than that, Nord & K.S. are just two different sets of delicious instruments.
13:00 wow thats a lovely sound
NORD is the one I picked, in fact I have both and used it on my next album Fresh Bear Tracks coming out this winter, thanks great video T BEAR
You should try a PC w/audio interface. A homebuilt PC can run circles around Macs for a third of the price, plus you can game on the PC while the Mac is just so-so for gaming. An average PC won't break a sweat running anything by Spectrasonics. I have Omnisphere and looking to add Keyscape. I can instantly switch sounds without any delay at all; 64 GB ram and 1TB ssd M.2 drive, and still using a 6 year old AsRock motherboard/i7-8700K cpu (paid about $1k for all these parts at the time. I could put it up against a $4000 Mac Studio.)
There's nothing technical about building your own, plus you can easily upgrade it. Try upgrading a Mac with the newest graphics card or more SSD memory, (you can't). There are plenty of DIY youtube videos on this. Linus Tech Tips is one of the more popular ones.
I don't think this really matters, but I think the notes we are hearing in the video are off by a semi-tone (i.e. when you play a "B" in the left hand, it comes out as a "C").
That is the first thing I noticed as well. It’s not my fault I have perfect pich... 🤣
I was thinking the same thing when he was playing in D major but we're hearing Eb major 🥴
"Let's do something uh in uhhhhh G... because I like G"..... *plays in Ab* 🥴🥴
Bright airy Nord for live, subtle intimate Keyscape for recording perhaps. Nice one Jack!
Nord might be more subtle and intimate than you think. The piano filter on the Royal grand 3D on the nord was in bright mode during the video(I dont know if Jack was aware of the fact?).
The convenience and sound quality of the Nord [Stage or Electro] make it a must have for gigging keyboardists. Keyscape is too complicated for the stage (for me) and belongs in the studio - or in a real tour setup for a roadie to manage.
Nice comparison...i Love your demo......
Thanks for tuning in... Glad you enjoyed it!
Every time you upload a video I watch. It.... I have my own music studio here in Philippines..... Thanks for comparing vst vs nord
Great video and massively helpful! Thanks!
More please. Pianoteq, etc. Do them all
Keyscape...for me! I just like how you can experiment with this kind of organic and synthetic sounds, especially within Omnisphere 2.
Keyscape is amazing but the Nord still sounds great and is just what you need for live performance. Great sound, completely reliable, more simple.
or you just bring laptop with mini keyboard controller?
@@JSBach-pd4yg It seem lost on people who screaming 'laptop and midi-controller!' that not everyone likes using laptops for live performances. It's a personal thing. I know someone who stopped using hardware synths for controller and laptop for about five years and eventually went back to hardware synths. He said he simply wanted something reliable and less complicated. I frankly don't hear any major difference between high end hardware synths/workstations and VSTs.
Very good video with honest comparison. Well done ! If i can make one comment though , the title is misleading as in my opinion, comparing a virtual instrument to the real deal means comparing Keyscape or Nord to a real acoustic grand. Neither KS or Nord are the real deal. They both use similar methodology , using sampling recorded sounds with a similar approach to model an acoustic instrument with a proprietary algorithm. The key difference is that Nord stage integrates all components keyboard, modelling software , and sound section in a single package whereby Keyscape only provides the modelling portion. A key advantage of integrated solutions is that the modelling algorithm is tuned to provide the best solution for the key action of their keyboard, whereby you have to do a lot of playing with all parameters : velocity curves, decay, reverb , pedal parameters etc to adapt Keyscape to any midi keyboard you are going to be using. Key advantage of separated solutions (Keyscape or other) is that you can replace/upgrade any components when needed.
For me nord sounds so fuller and more deep . Sonically sounds much better
I figured out a key difference in the panning you can hear for, it seems like the keyscapes is like most Vsts in the fact that you pan left harder the lower you get (or pan right the higher notes). however on the nord I hear a more Realistic envolvent sound because the panning is way more subtle and there's more bleed from the left channel to the right and vise versa.
It’s more like choosing between Ferrari and Lamborghini
Except that the Ferrari of keyboards is a Nord. 🤔
I feel like the keyscapes give you a more raw sound and feel, more natural acoustic sound.
Nord feels a bit more cleaned up.
So I guess whatever you’re looking for in that regard. I’m sure each of them can be adjusted in either direction though.
Dude i just watch simply to hear him play.....dope stuff
Awesome review and comparison. Like you said, keyscape sounds way more close miked and more characterful, whereas the nord sounds lovely but much more for a pop type or band mix situation, where I'd imagine it will cut through much better. My two cents. Nice playing btw !
I will probably get the KeyScape, BUT that NORD sounds better to me on a lot of patches. NORD is no joke.
Oh man, the end of this video , that’s the stuff
Yes Jack....ELECTRIC PIANOS !! And, the Maltese Falcon, of course....
Thank you so much. I was going to sell my montage for the Nord stage 3 but I’m going to just invest in a good Mac and keyscape
It's unimaginable what a difference soft release does against Nord in this case. It's very clear when Jack compares the bright version of Keyscape with the Royal Grand 3D. Dampers cut the sound off quickly in Keyscape while Nord's sound comes as slightly prolonged, giving us a digital impression.
With that being said Keyscape is outstanding. Everything there is well beyond words. The absolute same thing can be said for this youtube channel.