The thing I like about PRS is that if I want to buy a Strat I'd have to go out try 50 to find the right one. With PRS I can order any model in the mail and it will show up and play perfectly.
I just got the Silver Sky this week. It's plays and sounds so good. And I was honestly looking to get a Fender for the longest. Sweetwater had financing deals and it was only 6 months for a Fender which made the payments high. The Silver Sky was a 24 months finance which made the payments $100 a month, very doable. Boy, I am glad I got the PRS. I own several guitars, but this one just feels so good, I wake up and crave playing it. It inspires me.
Having been through over 40 Suhrs / PRS combined, I can tell you that Suhr has the consistency thing down even better than PRS. It's mind-boggling how perfect every Suhr I've ever picked up has been.
The best part about this video is how hard Mark Hopkins digs into that PRS while testing it. He really let that guitar have it, and he dug all the sounds out of it he possibly could in 20 minutes on it. Great video. Sweet jam guys.
Just want to thank you again for your videos inparticualy the one on "slamming the door" something clicked for me. And I just want you to know which you probably already do, which is something I know, because I'm 53 years old, that you still need to hear it and that is, that you have a special gift for communicating and keeping people interested. I've learned more from you in 5 or 6 months and not only about guitar but life in general than I have for a long time. I truly respect you I wish I lived across the street from you. Lol any way keep it up and thanks again. Jeff from northern California.
Suhr sounded sick through hat-dude’s rig, I like his lyrical phrasing too. Dig the other guy’s more eccentric style too, nice to hear things other than SRV and Jimi being played on a strat.
I'm at the point in my life where i dont wanna "fight" my guitar. I used to have that feeling to string it a bit heavier/higher action for tone purposes, but why? Whats wrong with buttery? You dig? Besides the player makes the difference in tone anyway. Tone is 80% hands imho.
I think he means the guitar is expressive rather than difficult to play. These classic shape guitars have a really characteristic & organic sound about them. Really percussive & true. My Suhr T is like that. It translates what you're playing really well. I think it's made me into a better player really because I really zone in on the sounds i'm producing.
As I get older, big strings hurt my fingers: knuckles pop, and start hurting. The sexy of bigger strings is quickly gone when you have to crack a finger mid-Solo! Tony Iommi, BB King and Billy Gibbons use 7 gauge and I understand why! Plus these days you can get Cobalt strings that sound much bigger than normal strings ...
I don't think that's what he meant. Some guitars are great sounding but less dynamic, it's 0-30-90-100, and nothing in between. Some guitars allows you to get the inbetween stuff better but is harder to maximize. Makes sense with heavier strings and a flatter radius. I find at least on my classic S, suhrs modern pickups compresses much more, so you are always in that inbetween zone and need to push it a bit for the notes to be expressed. Much easier to play than a comparable Fender. I wonder how that Silver Sky will sound in real life, super intrigued.
ThemFuzzyMonsters I stupidly played a stiff bending guitar for yrs. and from over texting I got what’s called dequervein’s tendinitis. My thumbs stopped working and severe pain and zero help. So it was hard but a yr of no playing. Almost went crazy. But that wasn’t the end. Two, not one frozen shoulders I’m still recovering. I don’t think you recover 100%. And my fretting hand turned into a pretzel, all twisted. Knuckles swollen and red. And thumb starts aching again. It’s still not right but I refuse to give up. So got thinner strings. Mixed then with my 9-42’s. Hand recovered but thumb just aches all the time. Using Billy Gibbon’s strings. Tuned down and still play but not with the hands I used to. It’s something I have to live with. Sadly. Just when I got really good. I’ve been playing since I was a kid. Was ignorant. The teacher never mentioned this stiff bending issue. The store here refused to sell thinner strings. So that’s how I ended up after yrs of thinking I was taking great care of my hands.
Why do people say tone is in the hands? It's not really. Maybe the opposite of what you said. 10 - 20%. You dont tell who's playing guitar by their "tone". You know who's playing by their riffs, licks, phrasing, vibrato, and playing style. 90% tone comes from the amp and the pickups. You could give anyone SRVs setup and get that chimey Texas blues tone but what makes the player is their style of playing through what they're actually playing.
Mark Hopkins what an awesome guitarist and loved the review . Also loved the “moe.” shout out as to why he played fender in college, moe. is such great band. When it comes down to it it really is all about feel . Two great guitars and two great guitarists. Appreciate the honest review.
Cool..It's great to see/hear guys not just talking about this stuff, but who really know how to play . Good session. Thanks Guitar gate. You like that thorn bucker the most. Great sound .cheers
I own two PRS guitars and thinking about a Suhr. Steep bucks. I’m also a Crook guitar guy. Specs to what asked for and less money. The other guitars are off the shelf stuff unless y’all wanna spend even more money. Some guitar companies seem to be geared to only the big venue players. Us small venue honky tonk players really are not what these guitar builders care about. THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. That’s what drives them lol 😂
While this guy does one of the best demos of the Silver Sky I've seen, I disagree that it doesn't feel like a Strat. 7.25 radius tiny frets is vintage, and there's nothing wrong w low action and playing like butter! PRS has some of the best setups in the industry, and I've played my share of Suhr. PRS also sounds more "stratty" to me.
I'm in the market for a strat style guitar. I'm getting tired of looking for one, but this video puts things in perspective for me every time I watch it.
Thanks guys I was waiting for a comparison of these two. I have a Suhr pro classic and was wondering how the Prs felt compared to the Suhr. I’m a big Prs fan also.
Great vid! Thanks! I've never been more inspired by a guitar than the frost colored Silver Sky. I've been waiting for the perfect guitar for me since I was 9, and this feels like the first iteration of that beast. Now to find a way to acquire one! Thanks again for the multiple videos featuring this guitar. I also loved hearing Mark's honest take.
I got an 18 model. Really love it, but I can see where it might not be for everybody. The quality and tones sold me. I don’t mind the neck thickness. I adapt pretty easyly. Great video guys and awesome playing. I’m 71 yrs old, played a lot of guitars. I love the USA silver sky. Thanks fellas.
I have the same white silver sky. A 2018 that was used I got for 1700$ it is great I’ve had it for a while now and I still love it just as much as they day I got it.
I have a Fender John Mayer Stratocaster setup with Ernie Ball 11s and agree that it has to fight back a bit. It handles all I throw at it with an "is that all you've got" feeling. I'd really like to try a Suhr sometime. That bridge pickup has it.
I have a Suhr Classic S HSS, and it is absolutely a great guitar. I probably spent less money just saving up and getting a Suhr rather than going for Fender like I’ve done in the past and modding it. I don’t feel like changing anything about the Suhr. The only Fender that comes close that I’ve tried is an American Pro HSS Strat, but when I bought one for myself, it had some problems in the finish and the bridge. That prompted me to try a Suhr, and I’m glad I did! I remember trying a Silver Sky briefly once, and it had one of the best 4th position tones I had ever heard. However, I did not like the knobs/plastics for some reason. I’d like to try one again some time!
Had a silver sky I own a suhr, being a busy father, the best choice for me was the suhr, feels so comfortable and precise. The silver sky, after not playing it for a while always had a small time to readjust back to it, and for me, I go through a shred tapping phase every year, the silver sky for that was a little more difficult. In other words, the Silver sky is great but no quiver killer. The Suhr way more versatile and a one guitar for it all.
Perfect video to test the speakers on my new walmart HP chromebook lol It passed. Thanks guys that was awesome jam two great players and guitars wow tone heaven!
Awesome demo and playing! Any chance you can list the pedals used? In particular I'm curious what the leslie effect was as well as the octave effect. Thanks!
Hey Josh! I was using the Strymon Lex for the Leslie effect, Micro Pog for the Octave and my overdrive was the Vemuram Jan Ray. I think that's all I used haha - I love pedals!
The way he talks about the suhr is way I felt when I picked up the Guthrie charvel. Just felt out of this world coming off the back of the strat. I hated that silver sky when it landed, but now I’m really itching to try it. It’s really grown on me and wanted a clapton strat next.
I just bought a Suhr Classic S Paulownia AND a 2019 frost silver sky. I really enjoy both! there are different things to like about both. But two days into owning my Silver Sky I almost want to sell it because the frets are just so short. I’m dragging on the fretboard every bend and losing the string, even. I bought a 2019 for the sound of the higher output pickups that are in the ‘18 & ‘19 models.
Okay, so seeing this there is absolutely no doubt that the Suhr is the better strat. Like, by far. Not even close. BUT I don't think the point of the PRS is to be a strat or a super strat. It might be along the lines of a strat, it might've been inspired by a strat (next to other things) but it's something completely different. It's like he said in the beginning: it's not a strat but it's also not a PRS. It's something new. THAT is the point of this guitar. It's a new breed. And there are definitely not many people on this earth that are capable of creating something new in the world of guitars. Paul Reed Smith just showed us that he is one of those who can do that. Absolutely outstanding Paul, great job! Whoever wants the best strat money can buy: get the Suhr, hands down. Whoever has played everything on the market and is looking for something fresh and inspiring. Something that will make your fret hand feel like back in the day, when everything was new: by God, pick up the PRS.
I think the point is that it most definitely is trying to be a Strat. Otherwise why would it exist at all? There are plenty of other guitars in the PRS range that can create a reasonable single coil approximation, but remain distinct and different.
My wife has the Maryland accent really bad. It creeps out sometimes. She grew up near Annapolis. I grew up in Montgomery County and don’t have it. Great playing and tones fellas.
Aloha Braddahs! Whoah! Awesome jam session! I’ve played hundreds of other guitars….shapes, brands, models, etc. and my preferences are two types….Fender Strats and Gibson SGs or SG shapes….BUT to this very day, I have yet to pick up and try a Suhr or the newer PRS JM. Nicely done Braddahs, that’s how you do a comparison….you pound all kinds of riffs, playing styles, nuances, articulations through it softly and beat it in harder on a long jam, hahaha! Mahalo nui loa for sharing, enjoyed your styles of playing da two axes! Aloha….PAU!
guys? What pedal(s) are U using at the beginning of the jam (and actually from there on as a loop) for the "Leslie-like" sound on the Silver Sky? Thanks a lot - that is the soud I am hopelessly searching for!!
Neither is better nor worse, they are just completely different. I own a Suhr Classic Pro exactly like Marks except I’ve got the stock HB. I definitely agree with Mark about preferring a more modern neck. I was surprised the PRS could do a Major 4th bend without fretting out and so I stand corrected there but I’ll be keeping my Suhr.
Dude! I don't know who you are, but this video is fucking awesome. If you do more stuff playing with friends and guests, you'll definitely get me hooked. Love your style. cheers
Signature models are always difficult because the name on it sometimes constrains artists ability to embrace a product. Many artists online, seem to be hesitant to make the PRS Silver Sky their number 1, as they always have a guitar that happens to be a non-signature allowing themselves to have a more personalized relationship. John Mayer’s SRV strat removed the engraved plate to make it his own. It’s almost as if Hopkins modifying his Suhr made it personal for him. Now I am thinking of taking the Silver Sky plate and having it redone with my initials/signature. Just a thought. On a side note, I bought a singlecut SE (for 100$) at a second hand shop and fell in love with the craftsmanship and tone of PRS’s entry level guitar. After this, I was intrigued about PRS’s s-type guitar and began playing it at my local music shop. I loved the smaller fret size, body shape, left of center, and tone. This tone strikes a tuning fork in my heart, and while I know Fender and Suhr enthusiasts feel a bond and uniqueness to it (which is completely legit) - I connect with Paul Reed Smith’s nerdiness to detail and passion for instrument history. I wonder how Hopkin’s would have felt if the Silver Sky wasn’t attached to Mayer and was instead PRS’s s-type guitar? Great conversation, and great playing. I think if PRS hadn’t hooked me with their entry level efforts, I might have been looking at Suhr’s as well. That being said, I could not be happier with my Silver Sky.
I have both the Silver Sky and CE Dustie Waring (mainly metal/rock player) and the plates are the only thing with their names, I wish I could get a blank anodized one too.
The Suhr sounded throat-er not just on the hot bridge pick-up. Action and gage of strings can be easily changed to suit taste. The neck is a matter of taste so for $2200 must try both for a while.
Prefer the clarity of the PRS. I like a strat where every position can do that super clear funk/R&B/Soul tone. I let the amp ad the bass back in if needed. The suhr seems more bassy and higher output which is definitely a tone with a purpose, but I feel like I hear less of the straty characteristics. These day's I find other brands get closer to the strat tone I have in my head then fender does.
Great video, I love Stratocaster guitars, I'm lefthanded and have owned a number of strats . PRS will not / does not make the silver sky in a lefty version. I'm looking at buying the same Shur shown without the humbucker and I'm sold, if john Mayer plays a PRS it must be good right ? If this guy plays a Suhr is must be better right? Why not!
Not a fair comparison IMHO. The Silver Sky is modelled after John Mayer's '63/64 Fender Strats, the Suhr Classic Pro is a totally different tool (modern neck radius, HSS config., tremolo bridge with dual steel knife edge pivot points ). If it had to be a Suhr/PRS comparison, the Scott Henderson Signature would have been more appropriate. It is also based after Henderson's vintage Fender Strats, and both guitars are fitted with the same three single-coil pickups (output wise) as well as a classic six screw vibrato bridge. Maybe next time...and don't forget to put a Thornbucker into the Silver Sky 😉. Great playing by both of you btw.
I just sold my Music Man Jason Richardson in favor of the Silver Sky. I had a regular Music Man Cutlass as well but prefer PRS just because of the fatter neck. I do wanna try a Suhr or USA Schecter though, I tried a Tom Anderson but I wasn't too fond of it tonally.
G&L Fullerton Deluxe ASAT classic is still the greatest guitar I’ve ever touched. Like over thousands picked up. Still haven’t found a better production guitar. And for $2K it’s literally unbeatable. Better than 90% of the custom shops I see. When people ask for a guitar to do it all for electric style playing, I recommended that one 100/100 times. I’m quite certain there isn’t a better way to spend $2,000 on this planet.
I'm not so much a "strat" kinda guy as I am a "super-strat" kinda guy. My first electric was an Ibanez StageStar Super-Strat with HSS pickup config, and every guitar I've owned since has followed that sorta shape. My main guitar nowadays is a Jackson SLATTXMG Soloist. They're great value-for-money guitars and they play like a dream. Also probably the cheapest quality neck-thru guitar you could possibly find these days. Mine cost me only $700 CAD. I think there may even be a version that has non-EMG pickups in it, too, but I could be wrong about that one.
This just proves how subjective guitar judgments are. The Suhr is a fine instrument and I've played a few through the years but i have just bought the PRS because it spoke to me. It's so easy to pick holes in something when its a new product and I for one think its PRS over Suhr and anything else I've tried of this strat-style.. Great video. Thanks.
Have a PRS custom 22; the best sounding pickups out of all guitars I own-especially articulated on string bends where it sings best. However, I own 3 Suhr guitars; Alt-T Pro, Suhr Classic T Pro Humbucker - Single coil, Suhr Classic T. Bigger bodies on the Suhr vs PRS Custom 22’s smaller body that’s awkward to play while sitting as body sits lower; lacking comfort and playability of Suhr. Both Suhr Alt T Pro and Custom 22 have 5 way switches with dual humbuckers. Feel Suhr has greater sustain, volume over PRS 22. It’s just the string bends on the PRS Custom 22 are beautiful with wavers of sweet tones. But the PRS rotary switch has got to go as Suhr has a 5 way switch which is easier to manipulate. Ten top on PRS makes it a work of art. The Suhr Alt T Pro is a hollow body that’s more traditional and elegant in its own way. Suhr and PRS guitars are beautiful alternatives to Gibson and Fender guitars.
Great comparison. I like that it comes down to personal taste and isn't a good/bad discussion. Haters just f up the discussion of nuance, and it's all about nuance. I miss Baltimore accents. They are "southern" and yet they are their own thing. I've lived in Mississippi for a while now, and they say I'm speaking with a northern accent. Like guitars, we all come at it from where we are.
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The thing I like about PRS is that if I want to buy a Strat I'd have to go out try 50 to find the right one. With PRS I can order any model in the mail and it will show up and play perfectly.
can agree. fender Strats vary way too much..
I just got the Silver Sky this week. It's plays and sounds so good. And I was honestly looking to get a Fender for the longest. Sweetwater had financing deals and it was only 6 months for a Fender which made the payments high. The Silver Sky was a 24 months finance which made the payments $100 a month, very doable. Boy, I am glad I got the PRS. I own several guitars, but this one just feels so good, I wake up and crave playing it. It inspires me.
Having been through over 40 Suhrs / PRS combined, I can tell you that Suhr has the consistency thing down even better than PRS. It's mind-boggling how perfect every Suhr I've ever picked up has been.
Suhr quality is top shelf..I ordered 2...suhr clasic pro and a suhr tele ...both AMAZING
Suhr is the best
“BB King strummed my guitar, looked at me rather quizzically and said, ‘Why you working so hard?’” -Billy Gibbons
The best part about this video is how hard Mark Hopkins digs into that PRS while testing it. He really let that guitar have it, and he dug all the sounds out of it he possibly could in 20 minutes on it. Great video. Sweet jam guys.
Just want to thank you again for your videos inparticualy the one on "slamming the door" something clicked for me. And I just want you to know which you probably already do, which is something I know, because I'm 53 years old, that you still need to hear it and that is, that you have a special gift for communicating and keeping people interested. I've learned more from you in 5 or 6 months and not only about guitar but life in general than I have for a long time. I truly respect you I wish I lived across the street from you. Lol any way keep it up and thanks again. Jeff from northern California.
Jeffrey Wasilchen thanks so much brother!!
Suhr sounded sick through hat-dude’s rig, I like his lyrical phrasing too. Dig the other guy’s more eccentric style too, nice to hear things other than SRV and Jimi being played on a strat.
David Gilmour, Eric Clapton and Dave Murray play Strats too.
Man, you guys are sick together. I would pay good money to see this live.
Loved the video and all info in it. Great jamming! And that thornbucker!!!!!
I'm at the point in my life where i dont wanna "fight" my guitar. I used to have that feeling to string it a bit heavier/higher action for tone purposes, but why? Whats wrong with buttery? You dig? Besides the player makes the difference in tone anyway. Tone is 80% hands imho.
I think he means the guitar is expressive rather than difficult to play. These classic shape guitars have a really characteristic & organic sound about them. Really percussive & true. My Suhr T is like that. It translates what you're playing really well. I think it's made me into a better player really because I really zone in on the sounds i'm producing.
As I get older, big strings hurt my fingers: knuckles pop, and start hurting. The sexy of bigger strings is quickly gone when you have to crack a finger mid-Solo!
Tony Iommi, BB King and Billy Gibbons use 7 gauge and I understand why!
Plus these days you can get Cobalt strings that sound much bigger than normal strings ...
I don't think that's what he meant. Some guitars are great sounding but less dynamic, it's 0-30-90-100, and nothing in between. Some guitars allows you to get the inbetween stuff better but is harder to maximize. Makes sense with heavier strings and a flatter radius. I find at least on my classic S, suhrs modern pickups compresses much more, so you are always in that inbetween zone and need to push it a bit for the notes to be expressed. Much easier to play than a comparable Fender. I wonder how that Silver Sky will sound in real life, super intrigued.
ThemFuzzyMonsters I stupidly played a stiff bending guitar for yrs. and from over texting I got what’s called dequervein’s tendinitis. My thumbs stopped working and severe pain and zero help. So it was hard but a yr of no playing. Almost went crazy. But that wasn’t the end. Two, not one frozen shoulders I’m still recovering. I don’t think you recover 100%. And my fretting hand turned into a pretzel, all twisted. Knuckles swollen and red. And thumb starts aching again. It’s still not right but I refuse to give up. So got thinner strings. Mixed then with my 9-42’s. Hand recovered but thumb just aches all the time. Using Billy Gibbon’s strings. Tuned down and still play but not with the hands I used to. It’s something I have to live with. Sadly. Just when I got really good. I’ve been playing since I was a kid. Was ignorant. The teacher never mentioned this stiff bending issue. The store here refused to sell thinner strings. So that’s how I ended up after yrs of thinking I was taking great care of my hands.
Why do people say tone is in the hands? It's not really. Maybe the opposite of what you said. 10 - 20%. You dont tell who's playing guitar by their "tone". You know who's playing by their riffs, licks, phrasing, vibrato, and playing style. 90% tone comes from the amp and the pickups. You could give anyone SRVs setup and get that chimey Texas blues tone but what makes the player is their style of playing through what they're actually playing.
Thanks for doing this guys! I playa Tom Anderson and a PRS Custom 24. No I don’t feel like I have to run out and buy one of these!
Mark Hopkins what an awesome guitarist and loved the review . Also loved the “moe.” shout out as to why he played fender in college, moe. is such great band. When it comes down to it it really is all about feel . Two great guitars and two great guitarists. Appreciate the honest review.
I"m loving both of those guitars, but I'm partial to PRS. I LOVE my McCarty 594. I play it every day.
Cool..It's great to see/hear guys not just talking about this stuff, but who really know how to play . Good session. Thanks Guitar gate. You like that thorn bucker the most. Great sound .cheers
Thanks! yeah that's no joke!
Mine comes in tomorrow. I cannot wait!
Struggling to hear what he's saying.
Mark put the guitar strap over the lav mic. I tried to fix it in post as best as I could, but there's still some very quiet moments. My apologies!
Yeah, also, lav mics are not in the best place and orientation, also. Cool video, though. Nice.
As long as you can hear the playing that’s what matters
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I own two PRS guitars and thinking about a Suhr. Steep bucks. I’m also a Crook guitar guy. Specs to what asked for and less money. The other guitars are off the shelf stuff unless y’all wanna spend even more money. Some guitar companies seem to be geared to only the big venue players. Us small venue honky tonk players really are not what these guitar builders care about. THE ALMIGHTY DOLLAR. That’s what drives them lol 😂
AWESOME guitar and WELL made.
While this guy does one of the best demos of the Silver Sky I've seen, I disagree that it doesn't feel like a Strat. 7.25 radius tiny frets is vintage, and there's nothing wrong w low action and playing like butter! PRS has some of the best setups in the industry, and I've played my share of Suhr. PRS also sounds more "stratty" to me.
Agreed doesn’t feel like a strat to me either!
I'm in the market for a strat style guitar. I'm getting tired of looking for one, but this video puts things in perspective for me every time I watch it.
Thanks guys I was waiting for a comparison of these two. I have a Suhr pro classic and was wondering how the Prs felt compared to the Suhr. I’m a big Prs fan also.
Glad you liked it!
i have both and i personally like my 2010 suhr classic better. i think it sounds better and plays better
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Dude the playing was killer great video guys
Great vid, amazing playing
Thanks!
Great vid! Thanks! I've never been more inspired by a guitar than the frost colored Silver Sky. I've been waiting for the perfect guitar for me since I was 9, and this feels like the first iteration of that beast. Now to find a way to acquire one! Thanks again for the multiple videos featuring this guitar.
I also loved hearing Mark's honest take.
Great! Best of luck and thanks for the comment :)
I own a grey or silver one. If you find the money to get one do yourself a favor and get it, it’s amazing don’t regret drooping 2.3k on it !
@@Guitargate Guys I finally got my white Silver Sky! Its incredible!
I got an 18 model. Really love it, but I can see where it might not be for everybody. The quality and tones sold me. I don’t mind the neck thickness. I adapt pretty easyly. Great video guys and awesome playing. I’m 71 yrs old, played a lot of guitars. I love the USA silver sky. Thanks fellas.
I have the same white silver sky. A 2018 that was used I got for 1700$ it is great I’ve had it for a while now and I still love it just as much as they day I got it.
I have a Fender John Mayer Stratocaster setup with Ernie Ball 11s and agree that it has to fight back a bit. It handles all I throw at it with an "is that all you've got" feeling. I'd really like to try a Suhr sometime. That bridge pickup has it.
stuff at 10 mins reminded me an Allman Brothers Les Brers type vibe
I have a Suhr Classic S HSS, and it is absolutely a great guitar. I probably spent less money just saving up and getting a Suhr rather than going for Fender like I’ve done in the past and modding it. I don’t feel like changing anything about the Suhr.
The only Fender that comes close that I’ve tried is an American Pro HSS Strat, but when I bought one for myself, it had some problems in the finish and the bridge. That prompted me to try a Suhr, and I’m glad I did!
I remember trying a Silver Sky briefly once, and it had one of the best 4th position tones I had ever heard. However, I did not like the knobs/plastics for some reason. I’d like to try one again some time!
one of my dream guitar is SUHR classic pro... i loved using it in a church sound soon if i have it in my own...
You will love it
I had one. Heavy as hell.
Had a silver sky I own a suhr, being a busy father, the best choice for me was the suhr, feels so comfortable and precise. The silver sky, after not playing it for a while always had a small time to readjust back to it, and for me, I go through a shred tapping phase every year, the silver sky for that was a little more difficult.
In other words, the Silver sky is great but no quiver killer. The Suhr way more versatile and a one guitar for it all.
If you can do without the vintage appointments, and are looking for a modern, versatile and a players guitar, its tough to beat Suhr for those things!
Really enjoyed this awesome jam in the middle
What was the effect being used on the Silver Sky around 34 minutes? Sounded so good!
My two dream guitars in one video, how sweet is that?
great tone on both! i also have a suhr classic pro, curious what you're using to get your OD/lead tones. thanks!
Please do more jams like this, like Sunday live jam or Loop jam Q&A. This was awesome 👌🏽
Found this video a few years late, but that jam is so good! Definitely stealing as many licks as I can from you two... 🤘
Perfect video to test the speakers on my new walmart HP chromebook lol It passed. Thanks guys that was awesome jam two great players and guitars wow tone heaven!
HA! Thanks :)
Awesome demo and playing! Any chance you can list the pedals used? In particular I'm curious what the leslie effect was as well as the octave effect. Thanks!
Hey Josh! I was using the Strymon Lex for the Leslie effect, Micro Pog for the Octave and my overdrive was the Vemuram Jan Ray. I think that's all I used haha - I love pedals!
The way he talks about the suhr is way I felt when I picked up the Guthrie charvel. Just felt out of this world coming off the back of the strat. I hated that silver sky when it landed, but now I’m really itching to try it. It’s really grown on me and wanted a clapton strat next.
You hated?? 😂😂
That tone at 24:33 was great! How were you getting that? 😜 Really into the Frost Silver Sky-more than I expected I’d be
It's a fantastic guitar it seems. A great alternative to fender.
In this comparison liked the PRS. It had oodles of open strat tone.
I just bought a Suhr Classic S Paulownia AND a 2019 frost silver sky. I really enjoy both! there are different things to like about both. But two days into owning my Silver Sky I almost want to sell it because the frets are just so short. I’m dragging on the fretboard every bend and losing the string, even. I bought a 2019 for the sound of the higher output pickups that are in the ‘18 & ‘19 models.
I put a pair of thornbuckers in my ec 1000. Its now my favorite
Pump up the W Krantz! Love the playing.
i would get the Suhr over the silver sky any day...
Same.
It just sounds so good
Okay, so seeing this there is absolutely no doubt that the Suhr is the better strat. Like, by far. Not even close. BUT I don't think the point of the PRS is to be a strat or a super strat. It might be along the lines of a strat, it might've been inspired by a strat (next to other things) but it's something completely different. It's like he said in the beginning: it's not a strat but it's also not a PRS. It's something new. THAT is the point of this guitar. It's a new breed. And there are definitely not many people on this earth that are capable of creating something new in the world of guitars. Paul Reed Smith just showed us that he is one of those who can do that. Absolutely outstanding Paul, great job!
Whoever wants the best strat money can buy: get the Suhr, hands down.
Whoever has played everything on the market and is looking for something fresh and inspiring. Something that will make your fret hand feel like back in the day, when everything was new: by God, pick up the PRS.
You nailed it. Thanks!
Nicely put Frank
I think the point is that it most definitely is trying to be a Strat. Otherwise why would it exist at all? There are plenty of other guitars in the PRS range that can create a reasonable single coil approximation, but remain distinct and different.
Tough to get a real comparison of the GUITARS when they're playing through 2 completely different rigs.
This is the real truth
My friend this is the best RUclips vid you’ve done. It showcases your latent skill.
I can’t wait till the silver ski se comes out so I can get one
My wife has the Maryland accent really bad. It creeps out sometimes. She grew up near Annapolis. I grew up in Montgomery County and don’t have it. Great playing and tones fellas.
HA! Thanks :)
Ian from Montgomery co.md. and o thought my accent was neutral but people up north think it's a little southern
Aloha Braddahs! Whoah! Awesome jam session! I’ve played hundreds of other guitars….shapes, brands, models, etc. and my preferences are two types….Fender Strats and Gibson SGs or SG shapes….BUT to this very day, I have yet to pick up and try a Suhr or the newer PRS JM. Nicely done Braddahs, that’s how you do a comparison….you pound all kinds of riffs, playing styles, nuances, articulations through it softly and beat it in harder on a long jam, hahaha! Mahalo nui loa for sharing, enjoyed your styles of playing da two axes! Aloha….PAU!
Was that EPMD you were playing dude? I love that riff. Not sure where it comes from though
The Silver Sky sounds more “Strat” to me than the Suhr.
I thought the same thing. The pickups on the Suhr are way too hot for my liking.
Nice jam! What kind of amp did you guys play?
That prs sounds incredible.
I'm the proud owner of the silver sky!! It's my guitar for life , nothing else compares. I'll take Butter any day over struggle!
Suhrs play like butter too,the man has set it up his own way with 11's on it.They come with 10's from the factory,they are very easy to play
Man your comping is on pint dude. Great playing
guys? What pedal(s) are U using at the beginning of the jam (and actually from there on as a loop) for the "Leslie-like" sound on the Silver Sky? Thanks a lot - that is the soud I am hopelessly searching for!!
The deadening of the Silver Sky on the higher registers when he bends is because of the 7.25" radius. That's the nature of the beast.
Of course J.Mayer claims "fretting out" is not a problem with his his Silver sky, and small frets, yuk.
The strat sounds great
He says he can’t play it and then proceeds to play flawlessly!!! Sounds killer!
Mayer created a monster. A monster with feelings, made to be loved
LOL!
I wish I wasnt left handed
@@loganking9719 Left ain't right!
@@syfman6 tf?
Neither is better nor worse, they are just completely different. I own a Suhr Classic Pro exactly like Marks except I’ve got the stock HB. I definitely agree with Mark about preferring a more modern neck. I was surprised the PRS could do a Major 4th bend without fretting out and so I stand corrected there but I’ll be keeping my Suhr.
Dude! I don't know who you are, but this video is fucking awesome. If you do more stuff playing with friends and guests, you'll definitely get me hooked. Love your style. cheers
What amp was this? It’s like my dream tone
Signature models are always difficult because the name on it sometimes constrains artists ability to embrace a product. Many artists online, seem to be hesitant to make the PRS Silver Sky their number 1, as they always have a guitar that happens to be a non-signature allowing themselves to have a more personalized relationship. John Mayer’s SRV strat removed the engraved plate to make it his own. It’s almost as if Hopkins modifying his Suhr made it personal for him. Now I am thinking of taking the Silver Sky plate and having it redone with my initials/signature. Just a thought. On a side note, I bought a singlecut SE (for 100$) at a second hand shop and fell in love with the craftsmanship and tone of PRS’s entry level guitar. After this, I was intrigued about PRS’s s-type guitar and began playing it at my local music shop. I loved the smaller fret size, body shape, left of center, and tone. This tone strikes a tuning fork in my heart, and while I know Fender and Suhr enthusiasts feel a bond and uniqueness to it (which is completely legit) - I connect with Paul Reed Smith’s nerdiness to detail and passion for instrument history. I wonder how Hopkin’s would have felt if the Silver Sky wasn’t attached to Mayer and was instead PRS’s s-type guitar? Great conversation, and great playing. I think if PRS hadn’t hooked me with their entry level efforts, I might have been looking at Suhr’s as well. That being said, I could not be happier with my Silver Sky.
I have both the Silver Sky and CE Dustie Waring (mainly metal/rock player) and the plates are the only thing with their names, I wish I could get a blank anodized one too.
Ever heard of Squier? They are good too.
Prefer the flatter neck,prefer the thornbuckers, prefer the suhr, not sure why but I prefer the warmer suhr tone.
Let's make guitar fun again! There you go.
The Suhr sounded throat-er not just on the hot bridge pick-up. Action and gage of strings can be easily changed to suit taste. The neck is a matter of taste so for $2200 must try both for a while.
Prefer the clarity of the PRS. I like a strat where every position can do that super clear funk/R&B/Soul tone. I let the amp ad the bass back in if needed. The suhr seems more bassy and higher output which is definitely a tone with a purpose, but I feel like I hear less of the straty characteristics. These day's I find other brands get closer to the strat tone I have in my head then fender does.
Great take on it. Thanks for sharing
And while on the subject, I have a Suhr Classic Antique SSS that’s among the best strats I’ve ever played.
Loved the killer tone on suhr❤
Great video, I love Stratocaster guitars, I'm lefthanded and have owned a number of strats . PRS will not / does not make the silver sky in a lefty version. I'm looking at buying the same Shur shown without the humbucker and I'm sold, if john Mayer plays a PRS it must be good right ? If this guy plays a Suhr is must be better right? Why not!
How do you like the new SE Silver sky?
What is the song at 10:54 I've heard it before but can't remember the name!
Not a fair comparison IMHO. The Silver Sky is modelled after John Mayer's '63/64 Fender Strats, the Suhr Classic Pro is a totally different tool (modern neck radius, HSS config., tremolo bridge with dual steel knife edge pivot points ). If it had to be a Suhr/PRS comparison, the Scott Henderson Signature would have been more appropriate. It is also based after Henderson's vintage Fender Strats, and both guitars are fitted with the same three single-coil pickups (output wise) as well as a classic six screw vibrato bridge. Maybe next time...and don't forget to put a Thornbucker into the Silver Sky 😉. Great playing by both of you btw.
idk man Im digging the overall tone of the silver sky way more!
“Yes please” to both 👍👍
I just sold my Music Man Jason Richardson in favor of the Silver Sky. I had a regular Music Man Cutlass as well but prefer PRS just because of the fatter neck. I do wanna try a Suhr or USA Schecter though, I tried a Tom Anderson but I wasn't too fond of it tonally.
I would really like to see Jeff Beck play the PRS!😎
Well it appears u were correct,, yep , a dam good 1.
And they've left out the truest of all Strats... The G&L Legacy...
The best guitar Leo Fender ever made lol..
G&L Fullerton Deluxe ASAT classic is still the greatest guitar I’ve ever touched. Like over thousands picked up. Still haven’t found a better production guitar. And for $2K it’s literally unbeatable. Better than 90% of the custom shops I see. When people ask for a guitar to do it all for electric style playing, I recommended that one 100/100 times. I’m quite certain there isn’t a better way to spend $2,000 on this planet.
I'm not so much a "strat" kinda guy as I am a "super-strat" kinda guy. My first electric was an Ibanez StageStar Super-Strat with HSS pickup config, and every guitar I've owned since has followed that sorta shape. My main guitar nowadays is a Jackson SLATTXMG Soloist. They're great value-for-money guitars and they play like a dream. Also probably the cheapest quality neck-thru guitar you could possibly find these days. Mine cost me only $700 CAD.
I think there may even be a version that has non-EMG pickups in it, too, but I could be wrong about that one.
And the suhr guitar has a compound radius neck
Ricardo Diaz and no single coil noise...
This just proves how subjective guitar judgments are. The Suhr is a fine instrument and I've played a few through the years but i have just bought the PRS because it spoke to me. It's so easy to pick holes in something when its a new product and I for one think its PRS over Suhr and anything else I've tried of this strat-style.. Great video. Thanks.
Very welcome. Thanks for sharing and yes - it's all about how it feels and sounds to YOU!
Have a PRS custom 22; the best sounding pickups out of all guitars I own-especially articulated on string bends where it sings best. However, I own 3 Suhr guitars; Alt-T Pro, Suhr Classic T Pro Humbucker - Single coil, Suhr Classic T. Bigger bodies on the Suhr vs PRS Custom 22’s smaller body that’s awkward to play while sitting as body sits lower; lacking comfort and playability of Suhr. Both Suhr Alt T Pro and Custom 22 have 5 way switches with dual humbuckers. Feel Suhr has greater sustain, volume over PRS 22. It’s just the string bends on the PRS Custom 22 are beautiful with wavers of sweet tones. But the PRS rotary switch has got to go as Suhr has a 5 way switch which is easier to manipulate. Ten top on PRS makes it a work of art. The Suhr Alt T Pro is a hollow body that’s more traditional and elegant in its own way. Suhr and PRS guitars are beautiful alternatives to Gibson and Fender guitars.
that wayne krantz lick was totally unexpected!!! respect!
That jam was awesome
Must be nice to have had a les Paul as a teenager.I waited 56 years to afford one. Still love fenders.
Haha - man it was a cheap $600 Studio that I saved up for years to get. Some days I miss that guitar - my back doesn't though
The pick ups on the PRS seemed to have more whitenoise . Better tone on PRS but still love that strat single coil strat .
What happened to Mark's mic?
Damn! I wanna play guitar like these guys! 😬🍔🍔🎹
do you think that white will take a long time to yellow?
It's not really gonna get very yellow since it's poly
Good show.
Great comparison. I like that it comes down to personal taste and isn't a good/bad discussion. Haters just f up the discussion of nuance, and it's all about nuance. I miss Baltimore accents. They are "southern" and yet they are their own thing. I've lived in Mississippi for a while now, and they say I'm speaking with a northern accent. Like guitars, we all come at it from where we are.
Can’t wait for a Silver Sky with a quarter-sawed, one piece maple neck and those moon inlays from the PRS DGT ❤️ #takemymoney
I’m leaning more to the prs
be used seems cheaper than a used Suhr classic pro
You would be making a compromise
now I really want a Suhr !! lol
Where in Baltimore are you from?
Dundalk LOL
Anyone know what amp the guy in the reds playing through with the silver sky ? Sounds killer
JCCskate I think it’s a carr Mercury