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That really sucks. If it helps to know, this is the first of your videos I've seen and I thought it was excellent so I'll definitely be checking out more.
Finally, I find someone as happy as I am that Jodorowky did not succeed. I honestly never really understood the enthusiasm for a work that obviously would have had little or nothing to do with the novels. And Jodorowky may be an author to be respected, but when I saw the clip you included, my skin crawled with disgust. I feel less alone. THANK YOU!
if you know his other movies, you understand what he meant by that. Clearly a guy who is interested in some fucked up shit (not sure if because he wants to do fucked up shit himself). And I get this perspective in some sense, because life and people are often just this fucked up and cruel (just look at the political landscape of the world rn...). Is rape bad and should it not be normalized? Yes. But was he also talking metaphorically and not about an actual person? Also yes. Movies (and art in general) is a place where you live out your fantasies with consent and without actually hurting anyone and this moralistic approach is imo hurtful to art. Anyways, that clip was creepy and he is a creepy dude and I wouldnt be surprised if he was part of a similar group as the people around Eppstein.
@carlosdumbratzen6332 I know, I know. You're right. I guess I'm 50% grossed out by that person's choice of word and 50% grossed out by how much he intended to change the novel to fit his own vision. He was already an established author, so there was no reason (even at the time) to go for something so different instead of butchering someone else's work. I think he reworked all the preproduction art into a graphic novel and you know what? Good for him. It was beautiful. But I'm happy it didn't end up being called a Dune adaptation because there's no way it would have been even remotely faithful to the original material.
@bookswithabel generally I think I am quite torn on this subject, because it often annoys me if adaptations are not so faithfull. But then there is stuff like the Ichi the Killer Movie, which is a masterpiece, even though it has a completely different focus.
I watched the documentary on Jodorowsky's Dune and I felt bad for him at first, until they started getting into the details of his plan and I was completely appalled by the fact that this was the first attempt at adapting Dune. No wonder they'd deemed it "unfilmable" for so many decades.
Thats fine but the ensemble he put together went on to change sci fi films forever, you may not like his words but his influence is eternal. Watch Holy Mountain.
23:08 if you haven’t read the book you miss a big part of Yueh’s rationale. In the Dune novel he basically says that he knows that it’s likely that the baron killed his wife but he doesn’t know for sure, and in any case he wants revenge. He doesn’t expect to survive his encounter with the Baron so he goes in with a plan A to take him out that never pans out and then the plan B which is using Leto’s tooth. Both plans fail but the main point of it all is that it leaves the Baron without a mentat and it also leaves him permanently messed up.
The glowing eyes in the mini-series were achieved with fluorescing contact lenses and a blacklight. In some of the tight close ups you can actually see a purple glow on their faces from the light. A side effect is if they turn their head too far left or right, the glow drops off almost completely.
Fun fact Paul and Jamis do fight in the 1984 version, but it was cut out. The part afterwards where Paul sheds a tear and his mother goes "How does it feel to be a killer?" Stilgar also has a line that goes "He gives water to the dead." Yep there were multiple parts cut out of the 1984 version.
I legit thought that was Man Carrying Thing in the thumbnail. To such a point that I thought "Oh I didn't know he had a long-form channel!" Defiantly gonna watch the whole thing regardless, though!
The 2000 was so much better than 1984, and Dune fans were incredibly grateful for it. You don't even know. Also, the Paul actor in the 2000 gives a much stronger performance in the 2003 sequel miniseries with James McAvoy. Highly recommend. Several other characters are also superbly cast in the 2003. And btw, very presumptuous calling Villeneuve the "final" adaptations. How many Shakespeare adaptations exist? Expect that for Herbert.
Strongly disagree. Dune is my favorite book of all time but I think the Lynch movie superior to the miniseries and miles above the new DV movies simply cuz it’s got heart. Dvs movies is all flair and lacks any heart even though it’s more faithful to the books.
@@Dakhor Lynch had never read or cared about the books. He said so. He's a great filmmaker, but sometimes it's not the right fit. DV got the job done best so far, in terms of meeting love with resources.
@@Dakhor yeah your deluded by your love for the past David Lynch's movie was unfaithful and completely bashed the books while somehow being an in cohesive mess of plot and visuals theirs no way any one over the age of 12 could watch it without cringing or laughing at its goofiness
@@dudermcdudeface3674 yet the lead actor had read the book so thoroughly he had a personally notated copy already. do you imagine that David Lynch was the only person on set? Do you know that this movie was created by the producers, who were huge fans of the books? did you realize that FRANK HERBERT himself was on set and included in script writing? do you imagine that movies are made by a single human being walking around pretending they're actually hundreds of different people?
The biggest impact Denis Villeneuve's Dunes had on me is the scale of everything, not only of the palaces, space ships, Giedi Prime, the desert, and even of the sountrack, but how small we feel, for example, when Princess Irulan begins the second mobie by saying "Imperial diary, year ten thousand and ...". It is all so massive, everything is so much bigger than my day to day life, that I'm remembered how infimous it is in face of, well, eternity. That is such an amazing effect for a movie to have and Denis is able to do it, as he intended, mostly by means of sound an image, not relying entirely on dialogue. amazing video, by the way! Hope to see your commentary on Dune Propecy someday
@@KPF_ OK, Mr Expert, lol. It takes a very special combination of stupidity and ignorance to dismiss an entire country, so congratulations on that, I guess.
I really enjoyed this video. It was perfect to listen to when I couldn't sleep. Interesting, entertaining and well-paced. Good job you have a new subscriber.
Hello! nice video, just wanted to add that Dr Yueh knew that he wouldn't be reunited with his lover in a physical sense, it was more the idea of freeing her of her daily torment from the harkonnens with death than reuniting. I believe it was made more inferred in the books. Just from one dune lover to another.
This essay was such a surprising and utter joy to watch I cannot even begin to describe my feelings. I went through it all in one damn sitting. My bronchitis-infested body still burns and aches after I laughed heartily one time too many causing another huge coughing fit. Utter perfection. I'll be looking forward to seeing more of your work.
I really appreciate this take on Dune. The comparisons were informational and humorous, leading up to a fitting analysis of the new movies. I was glad I watched the entire video.
I think Villeneuve's adaptation of Dune is insanely good. It's such a complex property with so many moving parts that's very difficult to understand and HE MADE IT UNDERSTANDABLE. Are there some bits that are flattened, a little? Yes, but its to its benefit.
Fenring doesn't stab Wellington Yueh, it's Peter de Vries, Vladimir Harkonnen's twisted mentat who does that. Lord Hasimir Fenring is a completely different character, a genetic eunoch, a failed Kwisatz Haderach. The Fremen fight Harkonnens and the Sardaukar troops sent by the Emperor to help the Harkonnen's defeat the Atreides. Villeneuve makes another big character change when Baron Harkonnen is killed near the end of the movie, it's actually Paul's sister Alia (Saint Alia of the Knife) who stabs and kills her grandfather. Oh well, I suppose I feel too strongly about the author's rights for the times we live in.
TV Dune might be "better" as an adaptation in terms of plot beats, but it's still so inconsequential historically and culturally. It has no footprint. It didn't in any way feel like a grand epic; it just felt like a generic TV miniseries. Lynch's Dune was a failure, but it was a spectacular failure which for better or worse has left a decades-long cultural footprint. SyFy Dune by comparison is a fart in a bathtub. I'd much rather watch a bad David Lynch film than some completely generic miniseries trying to ride Phantom Menace's coat tails. If you asked any group of people who directed Dune '84, I bet a fair number of them would know it was Lynch. Ask any group of people who directed Dune 2000, and I bet it would be blank stares.
not to be dramatic but this video is a masterpiece. you clearly poured time and thought into analyzing how each medium has approached Frank Herbert’s intricate, layered universe. As someone who’s also consumed a lot of Dune media, I really resonate with your insights, especially about Denis Villeneuve’s adaptation. It’s incredible how he managed to distill the essence of the book, with its dense politics, philosophy, and rich inner monologues, into something visually and emotionally accessible. The use of sound-like the otherworldly chanting and the deep, guttural tones-immediately transports you to Arrakis. Pair that with the breathtaking cinematography and moments of pure visual storytelling, and it feels like Villeneuve truly understood the soul of Dune. And yes, the acting-my goodness, I genuinely cannot imagine anyone else playing Paul other than Timothèe. His ability to captures Paul’s internal conflict and transformation from a sheltered noble to a reluctant messianic figure with such quiet intensity that every glance and subtle shift feels loaded with meaning. Scenes like Paul and the Gom Jabbar, or Duke Leto’s final moments, become so much more than words on a page-they’re visceral experiences. It’s rare to find someone who appreciates Dune from so many angles, and I’m grateful for the way you’ve tied these interpretations together so thoughtfully. This video isn’t just analysis; it’s a testament to the timeless impact of Herbert’s work and the artistry of Villeneuve’s vision. Amazing work
8:09 “Didn’t know you could threaten the emperor of the galaxy” See this is what people don’t seem to understand. The Guild and CHOAM are the greatest powers in the galaxy. The Bene Gesserit are second, and the imperial house is 3rd. Barely 3rd considering the landsraad exists.
Technically true. However, they arent particularly active players. The Guild doesnt order anybody around, only acting if their spice supply is interfered with. Perhaps you were implying this though, and I just missed the statement.
Technically true. However, they arent particularly active players. The Guild doesnt order anybody around, only acting if their spice supply is interfered with. Perhaps you were implying this though, and I just missed the statement.
This is pure gold, I am not joking when i say i watch this video 2-4 everyday since it was posted, Please do children of dune next and i think alot of people would be interested in a series where you review older versions of popular movies, Keep up the good work Trace 💪🏾
your preface before your review of the post 9/11 dunes resonated with me so much. ive never met a person who felt the exact same as i did. i truly believe that the series was way before its time, and technology back then just couldnt even attempt to visualize its contents. the infared camera scenes in giedi prime, the use of brutalist architecture, every advancement we've made came together to make something that could only be made in this time period
Wow. A simply excellent video. Already one of my favourite video essays ever. Quality, commentary and editing is top notch. Just insane. You deserve so many more views and congrats on your biggest video so far! Edit: Just saw your minecraft rip off video and it has more views but this is still, an insane achievement of a video.
Noo only one 40 mins left and you not not started children of dune scifi part! It deserved more time 😭 that’s my favorite still besides the two new movies. letoII is so damn good
30:54 Star Wars is inspired by Dune not the other way round. 38:42 Gurney saved the Pug you see him go into combat carrying it i guess he cared for it until he was reunited with Paul. Villeneuve's adaption is awful in some ways its even worse than Lynch's ( would recommend the Spicediver cut for the better '84 version) , despite its budget the 2000 mini series is the best adaption.
Pretty much this. The miniseries even finds a middle ground for the Harkonnens, (best Baron) and the visual style between art deco psychadelia and ...grey.
Agree, the Spicediver fanedit does a great job of cleaning up the 1984 version and segments it into 4 chapters. I always recommend people who have not seen the 1984 version to watch that one.
Great video, I loved every minute so far (35 minutes to go) your humour is great and I love this type of loooong form media marathons like this. Subbed👌🏻 keep up the good work Dune, I mean dude👀
Another thing about the Baron's death scene: Paul stabs him in the side of the neck, the way Mohiam was threatening to stab him with the Gom Jabbar. Just an extra layer of connection there
Well, maybe for Villeneuve the dialog isn’t necessary, but eliminate the dialog from a Tarantino movie or from the good seasons of game of thrones, or breaking bad… Some works like drive, or first man work well being more visual, but when you are trying to adapt a very heavy plot book with some many monologues and internal monologues and plans, and conspiracies you end making something nice to see but loosely inspired by the book, it’s more like an excuse to make the movie, to have an excuse for the visual choices. I don’t mind the internal monologues in Dexter or You or Dune 1984, they add and in this case they are a very important part of the book.
I'd never seen your channel before and although this video came up for me on the day of release it's taken me until now to watch it with my full attention. A really awesome and fun video. So much energy with your narration and editing. Perfect. Thanks to getting access to some awesome movies from a relatively young age, Dune 1984 was one of the fire movies I fell in love with and watched over and over again. It's still my favourite version. I only got around to listening to the audiobook between the mini-series and the Villeneuve movies. All interpretations have elements that I like. Again, amazing video.
The weirding way is the fighting style of the bene gesserit in the book, where they move so quickly it looks to others like they’re teleporting. Paul and Jessica teaching the fremen the weirding way is canon in the book, and partly explains why they turned the war against the harkonnens around; the Villeneuve films suffer from this omission but at least they include the atomics and develop the fanaticism around muad’dib; Lynch on the other hand was just… riffing😂😂😂
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Ironically the one thing I was looking forward to in the new movies was more lore due yo the longer runtime. 2 was better but the only new thing I learned from part 1 was bulls.
@@vanyadolly I think we got major lore-dumps in part 1. Honestly both movies just needed a longer runtime in my opinion, but I’m glad with the decision to make part 1 exposition-laden and part 2 mostly action. If each movie got another half-hour, we could’ve actually gotten the guild and the mentats fleshed out which would’ve made them pretty much perfect to me
Removing the weirding way training montage was a good idea in my opinion. It enforces the idea of desert power, and the inate fighting prowess of fremen warrior.
I'm confused. They don't showcase it that much, but they do talk about the weirding way in Villeneuve's version. When Paul & Jessica are first confronted with the Fremen in the Desert. She holds Stilgar hostage. And when he says to her "Why didn't you tell us you were a weirding woman and a fighter?". I think it that part of the scene has the identical beat to the Lynch version.
In the TV version Irulan's actions could derail the Bene Gesserit plan for Lady Fenring to have a child with Feyd Rautha Harkonnen, saving the genes of the line the sisters have been cultivating.
Spoiler: The red hair is a trait of all Harkonen in the books. It is also a bit foreshadowing the family relationship between Jessica and the Baron. In the second book the Baron is corrupting the sister through her spice connection to her family heritage. So it seems odd to call it “doubling down”. Latest are great though even with the odd bald choice.
great video! as a dune addict myself, i highly suggest checking out the first dos game. the way it plays out the plot is kind of ridiculous in a good way and the vibes are off the charts. gameplay is fun. you can ride the worm
In regards to 5:33 The novelization of 'Star Wars' from 1976 begins with an excerpt "From the First Saga' Journal of the Whills" and a historical quotation from "Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator". By Comparison, Virginia Madsen's monologue at the start of 'Dune' (1984) is a recitation of the opening of the 1965 book, an excerpt "From the Manual of Muad'Dib" by "The Princess Irulan". They both imply that the following events are catalogued by later historians and wax verbosely about orders of vaguely Buddhist space wizards manipulating the politics of their respective empires. Strangely, the novelization of Star Wars is credited to George Lucas, but ghost written by author Alan Dean Foster. The book also lists the names of the actors and production staff of the '77 Star Wars film, as if they are still playing the characters that you're reading about. The classic 'Star Wars' opening text crawl works better for movie audiences because it was intended to quickly set the stage for a 2-hour visual medium, while the annotated memoires of Irulan were an ice-breaker for the massive catalogue of planetary histories and appendices to follow. The theatrical release of 'Dune' '84 is almost 20 minutes longer than 'Star Wars', and that's without mentioning the 5-Hour and 14-Minute "Alan Smithee" cut. Dune's strength is that it has the literary foundation of Frank Herbert's books. Other artists may always revisit and produce their own variations, leading to numerous remakes; whereas 'Star Wars' is (for better or worse) tied directly to those George Lucas movies and the dictates of whichever corporation currently owns its copyrights, to the point of complete erasure in regards to the Expanded Universe. The original novelization that predated 'Star Wars' is now little more than a curious anachronism to the modern established canon. Also, "Star Wars' is really there to sell toys at Christmas, while 'Dune' gets really weird and NC-17 in the later books. (Heretics and Chapterhouse are all about an interstellar sex war, and I'm not even joking.)
@@eliperilpresidente Excellent question my good patron. We can also ask why did the screenwriters not count? I counted to zero because the names Piter and Irulan are unique, as I watched both films, I recalled hearing those names said zero times.
I like the version of Yueh in the book (and the 2021 film to a lesser extent) where it's kind of implied he more or less already knew his wife was dead and he only went along with the plan to betray the Atreides to get a shot at killing the Baron
Say whatever you want, the 1984 movie was awesome and to this day, a gem. And the miniseries is pretty cool. The follow up of the children of dune making it the best adaptation overall in my mind. ... That pretty much sums up all the adaptation I think? ... Yeah, that's it.
Nobody hates the 1984 Dune more than David Lynch himself. He said that making it was a “nightmare” and he regrets it. It’s the only film he made that he didn’t have final cut on.
Jodorowsky is Chilean. His parents were Ukrainian Jews who migrated to Chile. He worked with Michele Seydoux, the French film producer. He is an incredibly respected artist -- apparently not by everyone, but he is greatly respected. His first film started a riot at the Mexico City film festival. The documentary you pulled that clip from is really worth the watch.
The Holtzmann effect (see Norma Cenva and Aurelius Venport) folds space, the navigators see the safe path because the spice endows them with powers of prescience.
Looking at the three Dune adaptions we had by now id like say the following to the three versions: Lynch: I personally dont know why Lynch hates this so much. With the fan edited spicediver cut, the movie is really watchable and i think Lynch had the right idea to show this technophobe noble society with lots splendor and elegance in conjunction with clumsy and old fashioned looking machines. The cast is also good - mostly. The one real letdown is the Baron who is way over the top here. Miniserie: Well, its the most faithful adaptation. The only one that has the three year timejump, with Paul and Chanis first son and with a Baron that is faithful to the book. However the movie already looked cheap when it premiered - and the actors are avarage at best. And at least i think that Paul is horribly miscast in this adaption. Villeneuve: Denis was clearly inspired by the Lynch adaption in regards to the splendor and vastness of the sets and the costumes. I also want to add that this adaptions cast is top notch with not one single letdown. And i think this has the best Paul of all the three versions. However we had many unneccasary changes (like Chani breaking up with Paul in the end) that might hurt them later on. Id rank them: Villeneuve - Lynch - Miniseries
Trace I first encountered Frank Herbert's Dune universe by reading Da's copy of Chapterhouse Dune from his bathroom shelf in 1987 at the age of 10, not the best introduction to Herbert's deep philosophical books. I watched the 1986 movie by Alan Smithee on TV later that same year and was mesmerized by how Lynch brought to the screen images from a book I was STILL reading,. It took me almost a month to read that book clandestinely when Da was home, because we weren't supposed to raid Da's shelves. I had previously read The Bastard by John Jakes and The Valley of Horses by Jean Auel from Da's collection, much to the discomfort of my bottom. It wasn't always the best material for young Baptist boys like myself to read.
1984 Dune came from a different time. That's not necessarily an argument for or against it, but it has to be factored in and at the time, it was all Dune fans had in terms of a visual adaptation. Dune miniseries remains my favorite in terms of adaptation accuracy, particularly with Children of Dune. Denis' Dune Part 1 and 2 are obviously best in terms of visuals and action/pacing.
Dude, the plan to sixty's film was way crazier than that. Orsen Welles, A pink floyd sound Track that was even referenced in the trailer for dune part two
42:20= shameless plug, shameless pug! haha No, the pug's represent self-fulfilling prophecy, and also coming to terms with the self-hatred inside everyone... nah wait, that's what my English professor said about Moby Dick... LOL
one of the funniest things about the spitting business with Stilgar is im 98% sure hes just fucking with Leto and Duncan since i cant think of another instance in book or movie where any Fremen spit to show reverence. Crying is called out often in messiah and the first book as giving water to the dead but not at all is spitting mentioned.
My god, your house and outfit is so Midwestern. Also, Jodorowsky is Chilean, of i think southern slav partial descent. And he is defo a freak. If you wanna know for yourself, watch El Topo and The Holy Mountain.
This was thoroughly enjoyable and yes, I watched the whole thing! lol I would love to hear your opinions on the series Dune Prophecy, if you’re watching. You’re charming and intelligent and are able to keep an audience, at least this guy, well done! Btw Children of Dune is much better on many levels than the first mini series and well worth watching
Children of Dune is a massive improvement and combines Dune Messiah and Children, which are really one story. Villeneuve thinks Messiah is the end of Paul's story, but it really isn't. Better than the books IMO. I don't know how Villeneuve going to make Messiah watchable while leaving out Children - it's integral to where the story is going and so little actually happens in Messiah. Plus the tonal shift is incredibly jarring. I dunno. And the soundtrack is AMAZING.
the old version and the tv show were both dodgy but still better than those fucking dull modern versions, which turned the Baron into a one-dimensional opposite to his character in the book
Thank you for putting into perspective just how long ago 1965 was...that's the year I was born! LOL! I recently watched the original movie (1984). It was SOOOOO bad. The new movies are AMAZING! I'm also enjoying Dune: Prophecy and was happy to hear that it's been renewed for a 2nd season.
1984 Dune was the first thing from David Lynch that I'd ever seen when I saw it in 1986. I was 16 and had just read the book. I don't think I've ever been more disappointed with a book adaptation. Since then I've seen quite a few of Lynch's movies (and parts of Twin Peaks). I do not understand why Lynch is regarded so highly. It's mostly just weird without any reason.. Blue Velvet anyone? The Mentat from the miniseries looks like someone cosplaying Zorg from The Fifth Element.
Well made. But just a heads up. You ARE allowed to legally put in the Dune clips with full audio because of Fair Use Laws (in the USA). You are doing a critical analysis (review) of their works. RUclips will never copyright strike you.
1. There was another intro to the dune movie I grew up with that made more sense. I never understood the Irulan monolouge...even after see the original
Il me semblait que Star Wars soit sorti après Dune. Je pense même avoir entendu dire qu’Herbert était très gêné par les similitudes qui existent entre les deux œuvres et n’approuvait pas du tout.
@@lisegarnier9113 Star Wars est sorti après les livres Dune, mais pas après les films. Je trouve intéressant de voir comment ils semblent s'influencer mutuellement au fil des années.
i think your critic about the movie from the 80s is a little bit unfair, for example in the 1980s they did not had smartphones, special effects were expensive and thats also the reason why they changed the ornithocopter. Also you should read the book, because the new ornithocoptor is not the ornithocopter of the book, since it just means that it flies like a bird not like an insect.
genius. LOL. I need to rewatch Dune 2000. I remember it feeling "off", but I can't remember why. I just liked it more than David Lynch's movie, but still felt it was....off. LOL.... This is genius.
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That really sucks. If it helps to know, this is the first of your videos I've seen and I thought it was excellent so I'll definitely be checking out more.
got me to sub!
That really sucks man, was such a great deep dive on the dune cinematography history. You earned my sub at least.
Sorry to hear that, it was very good. This should fall under fair use.
In 1984 the cocaine was flowing and the movies definitely reflect that
Say "thank you" to Salvador Dali.
If I'm not mistaken, Frank Herbert was on shrooms when he was thinking up much of Dune.
Well..: it was better cocaine back then
*the coke must flow*
Finally, I find someone as happy as I am that Jodorowky did not succeed. I honestly never really understood the enthusiasm for a work that obviously would have had little or nothing to do with the novels. And Jodorowky may be an author to be respected, but when I saw the clip you included, my skin crawled with disgust.
I feel less alone.
THANK YOU!
if you know his other movies, you understand what he meant by that. Clearly a guy who is interested in some fucked up shit (not sure if because he wants to do fucked up shit himself). And I get this perspective in some sense, because life and people are often just this fucked up and cruel (just look at the political landscape of the world rn...). Is rape bad and should it not be normalized? Yes. But was he also talking metaphorically and not about an actual person? Also yes. Movies (and art in general) is a place where you live out your fantasies with consent and without actually hurting anyone and this moralistic approach is imo hurtful to art. Anyways, that clip was creepy and he is a creepy dude and I wouldnt be surprised if he was part of a similar group as the people around Eppstein.
@carlosdumbratzen6332 I know, I know. You're right. I guess I'm 50% grossed out by that person's choice of word and 50% grossed out by how much he intended to change the novel to fit his own vision.
He was already an established author, so there was no reason (even at the time) to go for something so different instead of butchering someone else's work.
I think he reworked all the preproduction art into a graphic novel and you know what? Good for him. It was beautiful.
But I'm happy it didn't end up being called a Dune adaptation because there's no way it would have been even remotely faithful to the original material.
@bookswithabel generally I think I am quite torn on this subject, because it often annoys me if adaptations are not so faithfull. But then there is stuff like the Ichi the Killer Movie, which is a masterpiece, even though it has a completely different focus.
I watched the documentary on Jodorowsky's Dune and I felt bad for him at first, until they started getting into the details of his plan and I was completely appalled by the fact that this was the first attempt at adapting Dune. No wonder they'd deemed it "unfilmable" for so many decades.
Thats fine but the ensemble he put together went on to change sci fi films forever, you may not like his words but his influence is eternal. Watch Holy Mountain.
23:08 if you haven’t read the book you miss a big part of Yueh’s rationale. In the Dune novel he basically says that he knows that it’s likely that the baron killed his wife but he doesn’t know for sure, and in any case he wants revenge. He doesn’t expect to survive his encounter with the Baron so he goes in with a plan A to take him out that never pans out and then the plan B which is using Leto’s tooth. Both plans fail but the main point of it all is that it leaves the Baron without a mentat and it also leaves him permanently messed up.
Gurney had the pug, he rescued it during the fall of the Atreides.
Note that down!
The glowing eyes in the mini-series were achieved with fluorescing contact lenses and a blacklight. In some of the tight close ups you can actually see a purple glow on their faces from the light. A side effect is if they turn their head too far left or right, the glow drops off almost completely.
Ayyy that's sick actually
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Fun fact Paul and Jamis do fight in the 1984 version, but it was cut out. The part afterwards where Paul sheds a tear and his mother goes "How does it feel to be a killer?" Stilgar also has a line that goes "He gives water to the dead." Yep there were multiple parts cut out of the 1984 version.
I legit thought that was Man Carrying Thing in the thumbnail. To such a point that I thought "Oh I didn't know he had a long-form channel!"
Defiantly gonna watch the whole thing regardless, though!
Fun fact: Paul actually says “Addaam reshii a-zaanta”. And unfortunately not “under the blue sea or something”.
If you didn't watch the 3 hour Spicediver edit, you didn't really watch the 1984 version. I unironically love that fan edit of David Lynch's Dune.
The 2000 was so much better than 1984, and Dune fans were incredibly grateful for it. You don't even know. Also, the Paul actor in the 2000 gives a much stronger performance in the 2003 sequel miniseries with James McAvoy. Highly recommend. Several other characters are also superbly cast in the 2003. And btw, very presumptuous calling Villeneuve the "final" adaptations. How many Shakespeare adaptations exist? Expect that for Herbert.
Strongly disagree. Dune is my favorite book of all time but I think the Lynch movie superior to the miniseries and miles above the new DV movies simply cuz it’s got heart. Dvs movies is all flair and lacks any heart even though it’s more faithful to the books.
@@Dakhor Lynch had never read or cared about the books. He said so. He's a great filmmaker, but sometimes it's not the right fit. DV got the job done best so far, in terms of meeting love with resources.
@@Dakhor yeah your deluded by your love for the past David Lynch's movie was unfaithful and completely bashed the books while somehow being an in cohesive mess of plot and visuals theirs no way any one over the age of 12 could watch it without cringing or laughing at its goofiness
@@ThanLam-kg6sc triggered DV fanboi
@@dudermcdudeface3674 yet the lead actor had read the book so thoroughly he had a personally notated copy already. do you imagine that David Lynch was the only person on set? Do you know that this movie was created by the producers, who were huge fans of the books? did you realize that FRANK HERBERT himself was on set and included in script writing? do you imagine that movies are made by a single human being walking around pretending they're actually hundreds of different people?
The biggest impact Denis Villeneuve's Dunes had on me is the scale of everything, not only of the palaces, space ships, Giedi Prime, the desert, and even of the sountrack, but how small we feel, for example, when Princess Irulan begins the second mobie by saying "Imperial diary, year ten thousand and ...". It is all so massive, everything is so much bigger than my day to day life, that I'm remembered how infimous it is in face of, well, eternity. That is such an amazing effect for a movie to have and Denis is able to do it, as he intended, mostly by means of sound an image, not relying entirely on dialogue.
amazing video, by the way! Hope to see your commentary on Dune Propecy someday
2:10:23 that gardener isn't a fremen, hes someone from the graben, sink and pan. He'd have blue eyes if he were fremen
Omg homie I respect that you respect the respecting of the craft for making this almost 3 hours and I will honor this by saving to watch later
The mini series is okay
The mini series dune and children of dune together are the best adaptations. Absolute master pieces
My favorite series of movies after lotr.
Children of Dune is definitely the improvement, especially since the story more lends itself to a low budget production from sci-fi.
Jodorowsky was Chilean. He moved to France and became a citizen, but he was born and raised in Chile.
imagine willingly choosing france 🤢
@@KPF_ Are you serious? Guess you've never been there, lol.
@@valmarsiglia Wildly incorrect but whatever
@@KPF_ OK, Mr Expert, lol. It takes a very special combination of stupidity and ignorance to dismiss an entire country, so congratulations on that, I guess.
@@valmarsiglia Bonjour mate 💪
Great video man! It's always nice to know other people obsess over these stories as much as I do.
I really enjoyed this video. It was perfect to listen to when I couldn't sleep. Interesting, entertaining and well-paced. Good job you have a new subscriber.
Hello! nice video, just wanted to add that Dr Yueh knew that he wouldn't be reunited with his lover in a physical sense, it was more the idea of freeing her of her daily torment from the harkonnens with death than reuniting. I believe it was made more inferred in the books. Just from one dune lover to another.
This essay was such a surprising and utter joy to watch I cannot even begin to describe my feelings. I went through it all in one damn sitting. My bronchitis-infested body still burns and aches after I laughed heartily one time too many causing another huge coughing fit. Utter perfection. I'll be looking forward to seeing more of your work.
I really appreciate this take on Dune. The comparisons were informational and humorous, leading up to a fitting analysis of the new movies. I was glad I watched the entire video.
“I’ll kms later” killed me at work
Really enjoying this as I get to sleep. This is my fourth attempt and I think I’ll get to the end tonight.
Cracking effort, mate.
I think Villeneuve's adaptation of Dune is insanely good. It's such a complex property with so many moving parts that's very difficult to understand and HE MADE IT UNDERSTANDABLE. Are there some bits that are flattened, a little? Yes, but its to its benefit.
Fenring doesn't stab Wellington Yueh, it's Peter de Vries, Vladimir Harkonnen's twisted mentat who does that. Lord Hasimir Fenring is a completely different character, a genetic eunoch, a failed Kwisatz Haderach. The Fremen fight Harkonnens and the Sardaukar troops sent by the Emperor to help the Harkonnen's defeat the Atreides. Villeneuve makes another big character change when Baron Harkonnen is killed near the end of the movie, it's actually Paul's sister Alia (Saint Alia of the Knife) who stabs and kills her grandfather. Oh well, I suppose I feel too strongly about the author's rights for the times we live in.
TV Dune might be "better" as an adaptation in terms of plot beats, but it's still so inconsequential historically and culturally. It has no footprint. It didn't in any way feel like a grand epic; it just felt like a generic TV miniseries. Lynch's Dune was a failure, but it was a spectacular failure which for better or worse has left a decades-long cultural footprint. SyFy Dune by comparison is a fart in a bathtub. I'd much rather watch a bad David Lynch film than some completely generic miniseries trying to ride Phantom Menace's coat tails. If you asked any group of people who directed Dune '84, I bet a fair number of them would know it was Lynch. Ask any group of people who directed Dune 2000, and I bet it would be blank stares.
Amazing video with hilarious editing! Also the analysis was spot on
not to be dramatic but this video is a masterpiece. you clearly poured time and thought into analyzing how each medium has approached Frank Herbert’s intricate, layered universe. As someone who’s also consumed a lot of Dune media, I really resonate with your insights, especially about Denis Villeneuve’s adaptation. It’s incredible how he managed to distill the essence of the book, with its dense politics, philosophy, and rich inner monologues, into something visually and emotionally accessible.
The use of sound-like the otherworldly chanting and the deep, guttural tones-immediately transports you to Arrakis. Pair that with the breathtaking cinematography and moments of pure visual storytelling, and it feels like Villeneuve truly understood the soul of Dune. And yes, the acting-my goodness, I genuinely cannot imagine anyone else playing Paul other than Timothèe. His ability to captures Paul’s internal conflict and transformation from a sheltered noble to a reluctant messianic figure with such quiet intensity that every glance and subtle shift feels loaded with meaning. Scenes like Paul and the Gom Jabbar, or Duke Leto’s final moments, become so much more than words on a page-they’re visceral experiences.
It’s rare to find someone who appreciates Dune from so many angles, and I’m grateful for the way you’ve tied these interpretations together so thoughtfully. This video isn’t just analysis; it’s a testament to the timeless impact of Herbert’s work and the artistry of Villeneuve’s vision. Amazing work
8:09
“Didn’t know you could threaten the emperor of the galaxy”
See this is what people don’t seem to understand. The Guild and CHOAM are the greatest powers in the galaxy. The Bene Gesserit are second, and the imperial house is 3rd. Barely 3rd considering the landsraad exists.
Bro should read the books
@ “have I mentioned I read the books?”
Technically true. However, they arent particularly active players. The Guild doesnt order anybody around, only acting if their spice supply is interfered with. Perhaps you were implying this though, and I just missed the statement.
Technically true. However, they arent particularly active players. The Guild doesnt order anybody around, only acting if their spice supply is interfered with. Perhaps you were implying this though, and I just missed the statement.
This is pure gold, I am not joking when i say i watch this video 2-4 everyday since it was posted, Please do children of dune next and i think alot of people would be interested in a series where you review older versions of popular movies, Keep up the good work Trace 💪🏾
your preface before your review of the post 9/11 dunes resonated with me so much. ive never met a person who felt the exact same as i did. i truly believe that the series was way before its time, and technology back then just couldnt even attempt to visualize its contents. the infared camera scenes in giedi prime, the use of brutalist architecture, every advancement we've made came together to make something that could only be made in this time period
infared filters exist since at least eighties
Wow. A simply excellent video. Already one of my favourite video essays ever. Quality, commentary and editing is top notch. Just insane. You deserve so many more views and congrats on your biggest video so far!
Edit: Just saw your minecraft rip off video and it has more views but this is still, an insane achievement of a video.
Anydrous Man Carrying Ting
man carrying long lost brother
“Worms the size of airport runways”🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
You’re very funny!!!
Noo only one 40 mins left and you not not started children of dune scifi part! It deserved more time 😭 that’s my favorite still besides the two new movies. letoII is so damn good
I didn't want to spoil anything for people who have only watched Villenueve's movies. I might come back to it though!
@@tracewaldramI hope so!
30:54 Star Wars is inspired by Dune not the other way round.
38:42 Gurney saved the Pug you see him go into combat carrying it i guess he cared for it until he was reunited with Paul.
Villeneuve's adaption is awful in some ways its even worse than Lynch's ( would recommend the Spicediver cut for the better '84 version) , despite its budget the 2000 mini series is the best adaption.
Pretty much this. The miniseries even finds a middle ground for the Harkonnens, (best Baron) and the visual style between art deco psychadelia and ...grey.
Cheesy AF
Agree, the Spicediver fanedit does a great job of cleaning up the 1984 version and segments it into 4 chapters. I always recommend people who have not seen the 1984 version to watch that one.
I think the point is the dune MOVIE in 1984 was stylistically inspired by the star wars films
I was howling with laughter. Why [parts] out and the full roast of Dune 84. Would love to see you tackle the Children of Dune follow up!
Great video, I loved every minute so far (35 minutes to go) your humour is great and I love this type of loooong form media marathons like this. Subbed👌🏻 keep up the good work Dune, I mean dude👀
The Pugs represent the idea of Chairdogs - evolution of dogs into something so passive, the wolf is totally gone.
Another thing about the Baron's death scene: Paul stabs him in the side of the neck, the way Mohiam was threatening to stab him with the Gom Jabbar. Just an extra layer of connection there
Well, maybe for Villeneuve the dialog isn’t necessary, but eliminate the dialog from a Tarantino movie or from the good seasons of game of thrones, or breaking bad…
Some works like drive, or first man work well being more visual, but when you are trying to adapt a very heavy plot book with some many monologues and internal monologues and plans, and conspiracies you end making something nice to see but loosely inspired by the book, it’s more like an excuse to make the movie, to have an excuse for the visual choices.
I don’t mind the internal monologues in Dexter or You or Dune 1984, they add and in this case they are a very important part of the book.
In Dexter and YOU they make it work though....... Which lynch failed to do. It's stilted
It may be a better adaptation but as a film it is lacking
Paul in the mini series is a lot better in the children of dune sequel. He fits adult Paul much more especially in Dune messiah
I'd never seen your channel before and although this video came up for me on the day of release it's taken me until now to watch it with my full attention.
A really awesome and fun video. So much energy with your narration and editing. Perfect.
Thanks to getting access to some awesome movies from a relatively young age, Dune 1984 was one of the fire movies I fell in love with and watched over and over again. It's still my favourite version.
I only got around to listening to the audiobook between the mini-series and the Villeneuve movies. All interpretations have elements that I like.
Again, amazing video.
what i hate most about your video is that, whats new is good, and whats old is bad
f'ckin zoomers
Awesome vid retrospective
The weirding way is the fighting style of the bene gesserit in the book, where they move so quickly it looks to others like they’re teleporting. Paul and Jessica teaching the fremen the weirding way is canon in the book, and partly explains why they turned the war against the harkonnens around; the Villeneuve films suffer from this omission but at least they include the atomics and develop the fanaticism around muad’dib; Lynch on the other hand was just… riffing😂😂😂
Yeah, they condensed a lot of time in the new movies.
@@misanthropicservitorofmars2116 Ironically the one thing I was looking forward to in the new movies was more lore due yo the longer runtime. 2 was better but the only new thing I learned from part 1 was bulls.
@@vanyadolly I think we got major lore-dumps in part 1. Honestly both movies just needed a longer runtime in my opinion, but I’m glad with the decision to make part 1 exposition-laden and part 2 mostly action. If each movie got another half-hour, we could’ve actually gotten the guild and the mentats fleshed out which would’ve made them pretty much perfect to me
Removing the weirding way training montage was a good idea in my opinion. It enforces the idea of desert power, and the inate fighting prowess of fremen warrior.
I'm confused. They don't showcase it that much, but they do talk about the weirding way in Villeneuve's version.
When Paul & Jessica are first confronted with the Fremen in the Desert. She holds Stilgar hostage. And when he says to her "Why didn't you tell us you were a weirding woman and a fighter?". I think it that part of the scene has the identical beat to the Lynch version.
Children of Dune though with James Mccaoy Slaps though
“The Glock way” bit nearly took me out🤣🤣😭🤣
In the TV version Irulan's actions could derail the Bene Gesserit plan for Lady Fenring to have a child with Feyd Rautha Harkonnen, saving the genes of the line the sisters have been cultivating.
Good video! And you haircut was fine, lol.
Spoiler:
The red hair is a trait of all Harkonen in the books. It is also a bit foreshadowing the family relationship between Jessica and the Baron. In the second book the Baron is corrupting the sister through her spice connection to her family heritage. So it seems odd to call it “doubling down”. Latest are great though even with the odd bald choice.
Is it just me or does Atredis from Dune Prophecy look like Timothée Chalamet and Alec Newman's child?
I've been saying that since the first episode..lol
Just found your channel out, great video! Hope it blows up.
Jesus man, iv´ve been consuming your video for a couple of days, now that i´m reaching the end...... you rock ! What an analysis
Great video man, keep it up this was awesome
great video! as a dune addict myself, i highly suggest checking out the first dos game. the way it plays out the plot is kind of ridiculous in a good way and the vibes are off the charts. gameplay is fun. you can ride the worm
In regards to 5:33
The novelization of 'Star Wars' from 1976 begins with an excerpt "From the First Saga' Journal of the Whills" and a historical quotation from "Leia Organa of Alderaan, Senator".
By Comparison, Virginia Madsen's monologue at the start of 'Dune' (1984) is a recitation of the opening of the 1965 book, an excerpt "From the Manual of Muad'Dib" by "The Princess Irulan".
They both imply that the following events are catalogued by later historians and wax verbosely about orders of vaguely Buddhist space wizards manipulating the politics of their respective empires. Strangely, the novelization of Star Wars is credited to George Lucas, but ghost written by author Alan Dean Foster. The book also lists the names of the actors and production staff of the '77 Star Wars film, as if they are still playing the characters that you're reading about.
The classic 'Star Wars' opening text crawl works better for movie audiences because it was intended to quickly set the stage for a 2-hour visual medium, while the annotated memoires of Irulan were an ice-breaker for the massive catalogue of planetary histories and appendices to follow. The theatrical release of 'Dune' '84 is almost 20 minutes longer than 'Star Wars', and that's without mentioning the 5-Hour and 14-Minute "Alan Smithee" cut.
Dune's strength is that it has the literary foundation of Frank Herbert's books. Other artists may always revisit and produce their own variations, leading to numerous remakes; whereas 'Star Wars' is (for better or worse) tied directly to those George Lucas movies and the dictates of whichever corporation currently owns its copyrights, to the point of complete erasure in regards to the Expanded Universe. The original novelization that predated 'Star Wars' is now little more than a curious anachronism to the modern established canon.
Also, "Star Wars' is really there to sell toys at Christmas, while 'Dune' gets really weird and NC-17 in the later books. (Heretics and Chapterhouse are all about an interstellar sex war, and I'm not even joking.)
In DVs Dune, how many times did anyone reference Piter or Irulan by name?
Why are you counting?
@@eliperilpresidente Excellent question my good patron. We can also ask why did the screenwriters not count? I counted to zero because the names Piter and Irulan are unique, as I watched both films, I recalled hearing those names said zero times.
FEYD RAUTHA
1:47:45 Might be talking out of my ass here, but this gun might be based off of the pepper box, which is a sort of Multi Barrel Revolver.
I subscribed for the dog comfort
Yeah, talk aboout the whole new series, its not perfect, but it really expands the Denis dune
But it’s not based on Frank Herbert’s work. It’s his son
@@herbg4866even then only prequel bits are from it, the rest being original stuff.
Maybe a separate video about adaptations of other Dune works could work.
I like the version of Yueh in the book (and the 2021 film to a lesser extent) where it's kind of implied he more or less already knew his wife was dead and he only went along with the plan to betray the Atreides to get a shot at killing the Baron
Amazing video. I missed this on youtube. You got the point but it's funny too :*
You missed out on the children of dune miniseries which is the best adaptation made so far, IMO.
Say whatever you want, the 1984 movie was awesome and to this day, a gem.
And the miniseries is pretty cool. The follow up of the children of dune making it the best adaptation overall in my mind.
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That pretty much sums up all the adaptation I think? ... Yeah, that's it.
The 1984 movie is absolute shite you’re just an old contrarian edgelord
I agree. It is a Total classic.
Hey man I can absolutely see having fun with it.
@@tracewaldram The manic, diseased baron is also much more... correct than you give it credit for. Mohiam really messed him up.
Nobody hates the 1984 Dune more than David Lynch himself. He said that making it was a “nightmare” and he regrets it. It’s the only film he made that he didn’t have final cut on.
I like the navigator scene though
The David lynch Dune is not THAT bad, 1000 years in the karma dungeon.
Jodorowsky is Chilean. His parents were Ukrainian Jews who migrated to Chile. He worked with Michele Seydoux, the French film producer. He is an incredibly respected artist -- apparently not by everyone, but he is greatly respected. His first film started a riot at the Mexico City film festival. The documentary you pulled that clip from is really worth the watch.
The Holtzmann effect (see Norma Cenva and Aurelius Venport) folds space, the navigators see the safe path because the spice endows them with powers of prescience.
@@avk-kq7gv ugly tho
If you watch any Jordorosky movie, you’d know he’s literally insane. Although they are also really cool movies
Looking at the three Dune adaptions we had by now id like say the following to the three versions:
Lynch: I personally dont know why Lynch hates this so much. With the fan edited spicediver cut, the movie is really watchable and i think Lynch had the right idea to show this technophobe noble society with lots splendor and elegance in conjunction with clumsy and old fashioned looking machines. The cast is also good - mostly. The one real letdown is the Baron who is way over the top here.
Miniserie: Well, its the most faithful adaptation. The only one that has the three year timejump, with Paul and Chanis first son and with a Baron that is faithful to the book. However the movie already looked cheap when it premiered - and the actors are avarage at best. And at least i think that Paul is horribly miscast in this adaption.
Villeneuve: Denis was clearly inspired by the Lynch adaption in regards to the splendor and vastness of the sets and the costumes. I also want to add that this adaptions cast is top notch with not one single letdown. And i think this has the best Paul of all the three versions. However we had many unneccasary changes (like Chani breaking up with Paul in the end) that might hurt them later on.
Id rank them: Villeneuve - Lynch - Miniseries
Trace I first encountered Frank Herbert's Dune universe by reading Da's copy of Chapterhouse Dune from his bathroom shelf in 1987 at the age of 10, not the best introduction to Herbert's deep philosophical books. I watched the 1986 movie by Alan Smithee on TV later that same year and was mesmerized by how Lynch brought to the screen images from a book I was STILL reading,. It took me almost a month to read that book clandestinely when Da was home, because we weren't supposed to raid Da's shelves. I had previously read The Bastard by John Jakes and The Valley of Horses by Jean Auel from Da's collection, much to the discomfort of my bottom. It wasn't always the best material for young Baptist boys like myself to read.
3:00 Omelet is even french. (A thread)
3:20 bureau is even french
4:20 It's worse.
5:00 adieu is even french
7:10 is that Natalie Portman?
10:30 those shields are bad.
You must fried by these adaptations
1984 Dune came from a different time. That's not necessarily an argument for or against it, but it has to be factored in and at the time, it was all Dune fans had in terms of a visual adaptation. Dune miniseries remains my favorite in terms of adaptation accuracy, particularly with Children of Dune. Denis' Dune Part 1 and 2 are obviously best in terms of visuals and action/pacing.
Dude, the plan to sixty's film was way crazier than that. Orsen Welles, A pink floyd sound Track that was even referenced in the trailer for dune part two
You look like you’re cosplaying Man Carrying Thing
...lol he called "Piter" "Fenring". That's fun.
I think people tend to remember lines more than images in film. But thats just me.
Dr Liet Kynes was Chani's father ... I rest my case!
Thank you for watching the old films so that I won't have to, not that I plan to watch them anw 😂
42:20= shameless plug, shameless pug! haha
No, the pug's represent self-fulfilling prophecy, and also coming to terms with the self-hatred inside everyone...
nah wait, that's what my English professor said about Moby Dick... LOL
one of the funniest things about the spitting business with Stilgar is im 98% sure hes just fucking with Leto and Duncan since i cant think of another instance in book or movie where any Fremen spit to show reverence.
Crying is called out often in messiah and the first book as giving water to the dead but not at all is spitting mentioned.
The original books were littered with internal monologues.
My god, your house and outfit is so Midwestern. Also, Jodorowsky is Chilean, of i think southern slav partial descent. And he is defo a freak. If you wanna know for yourself, watch El Topo and The Holy Mountain.
This was thoroughly enjoyable and yes, I watched the whole thing! lol I would love to hear your opinions on the series Dune Prophecy, if you’re watching. You’re charming and intelligent and are able to keep an audience, at least this guy, well done! Btw Children of Dune is much better on many levels than the first mini series and well worth watching
Children of Dune is a massive improvement and combines Dune Messiah and Children, which are really one story. Villeneuve thinks Messiah is the end of Paul's story, but it really isn't. Better than the books IMO.
I don't know how Villeneuve going to make Messiah watchable while leaving out Children - it's integral to where the story is going and so little actually happens in Messiah. Plus the tonal shift is incredibly jarring. I dunno.
And the soundtrack is AMAZING.
the old version and the tv show were both dodgy but still better than those fucking dull modern versions, which turned the Baron into a one-dimensional opposite to his character in the book
Thank you for putting into perspective just how long ago 1965 was...that's the year I was born! LOL!
I recently watched the original movie (1984). It was SOOOOO bad. The new movies are AMAZING! I'm also enjoying Dune: Prophecy and was happy to hear that it's been renewed for a 2nd season.
Well, that’s embarrassing….i just finished your video and you address the series 😅, I hadn’t quite finished it yet before I posted
1984 Dune was the first thing from David Lynch that I'd ever seen when I saw it in 1986. I was 16 and had just read the book. I don't think I've ever been more disappointed with a book adaptation.
Since then I've seen quite a few of Lynch's movies (and parts of Twin Peaks). I do not understand why Lynch is regarded so highly. It's mostly just weird without any reason.. Blue Velvet anyone?
The Mentat from the miniseries looks like someone cosplaying Zorg from The Fifth Element.
mummy joe mentioned!!! 2:49
The thing about Dune 1984 is it's a David Lynch movie... If you don't like weird shit don't watch David Lynch.
23:18 that would be Piter de Vries the Baron’s mentat not Count Fenring 🤓👆
Oh no
Well made. But just a heads up. You ARE allowed to legally put in the Dune clips with full audio because of Fair Use Laws (in the USA). You are doing a critical analysis (review) of their works.
RUclips will never copyright strike you.
1. There was another intro to the dune movie I grew up with that made more sense. I never understood the Irulan monolouge...even after see the original
The TV version intro, way better. The Spicediver Fan Edit uses this version as well.
Il me semblait que Star Wars soit sorti après Dune. Je pense même avoir entendu dire qu’Herbert était très gêné par les similitudes qui existent entre les deux œuvres et n’approuvait pas du tout.
@@lisegarnier9113 Star Wars est sorti après les livres Dune, mais pas après les films. Je trouve intéressant de voir comment ils semblent s'influencer mutuellement au fil des années.
@@tracewaldram L'idée que Dune de Trois sera influencé par la trilogie de Disney me rempli d'une émotion intense.
@@weeaboobaguette3943Je ne m'inquiéterais pas. Je ne pense pas que Villenueve s'inspirera beaucoup de la trilogie suivante. Lol.
i think your critic about the movie from the 80s is a little bit unfair, for example in the 1980s they did not had smartphones, special effects were expensive and thats also the reason why they changed the ornithocopter. Also you should read the book, because the new ornithocoptor is not the ornithocopter of the book, since it just means that it flies like a bird not like an insect.
2:38:37 I haven't even watched these movies... wtf am I doing here
Lol how did you get this far
@@tracewaldram dude this was pretty good... now do the games...
2:37 What?
genius. LOL. I need to rewatch Dune 2000. I remember it feeling "off", but I can't remember why. I just liked it more than David Lynch's movie, but still felt it was....off. LOL.... This is genius.