You know what I abolutely love, the fact that all of my Tosbhia drives give that big old yellow warning stating that these drives are incompatible with my NAS when they are literally the exact same hard drives that Synology charges a markup for. (Toshiba is the white label manufacturer for Synology)
Synology must be falling apart internally. The lack of 2.5, the CPU choices across the recent releases, Active Backup still only supports Linux kernel 5.15, the hard drive requirements, the list goes on. Even if they are still selling a good number of units, they have lost out on so many sales over the past 2-3 years due to their unwillingness to adapt.
I think they are just suffering from "Big Company Syndrome" and they are just resting on their previous success and not falling apart internally. It happens to a lot of companies. I do agree with you that there is so much more that needs to be considered and they just are lacking...
@@Realhussl1 When I wrote that the active backup site still said 5.15 only, but I see today it now says 5.15 to 6.8. The issue is it will likely be stuck on 6.8 for 3 more years. We'll see... Thanks for pointing it out.
Well pulled the trigger on the DS1821+. I didn't see Synology on the list for booths at CES. So I don't think the 1825+ is coming out. Will are you headed to CES in Las Vegas?
If they ship AGAIN in 2025 without 10gbe (NOT upgrade!), this is again DOA. Their software is good, but with all the alternatives on the market is abusive to use such an outdated hardware in exchange of top money.
The software is ok but far from perfect - Android apps suck (incomplete set, old UI, limited functionality), drive works great until it doesn't, hyper backup very slow, list goes on. Looks like they've been sleeping on their laurels far too long
Synology take note As a user of multiple products and someone that has deployed many of them to other businesses. Synology drives mandated means no more business from me
@roocrew86 QNAP is so nice to work with these days. They really caught up with the OS, they have a ton of apps to get the job done. I don't know how consultants can carry the water for synology still..
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I now refuse to buy a new NAS that does not have default 10gb. The system needs to have enough horsepower to read/write saturate the 10gb network port. I also refuse to be forced to buy outrageously priced Synology drives. For those into portable power stations - Synology is set to become the "Jackery" of the NAS world.
That would be awesome, thanks for the video! My DS1515+ really starts showing it’s age. But I am also one of the VM/Docker folks you talk about. So the CPU spec bump would really come in handy for me as I already thought about buying a DS1821+ in the next months. Would be a great coincidence lol
Synology's insistence on using their branded drives is no different to the printer companies forcing the use of their specific cartridges and locking out aftermarket inks. I refuse to buy into that type of monopoly and buying a NAS drive is no different.
Could not wait for Synology to upgrade their NAS hardware. Yes the Synology software is great. I purchased the QNAP tvs-h874x and UGreen DXP8800 plus for hardware to last for several years.
Oh! I know how good is the 1821+ because I just got a fully fledge fully loaded and not feeling bad at all that 25+ is coming. I would love a video of best practices of how to set up users and groups and this kind of basics
Regarding the DS1823XS+ requiring Synology branded drives, that seems kinda messed up. It would be differant if the drives were more competativly priced and offered larger capacities. I have a DS1819+ w/32GB of memory, 8 x 14TB, w/DX517 w 5 x 14TB. I has been a great unit. I recently got a DS923+ w/32GB of memory, 4 x 20TB drives. Do you know what the maximum drive size that the DX517 expansion unit can use?
My current Synology is long in the tooth so I picked up a TerraMaster and while TOS is buggy and feels dated, The hardware offering is not bad and just put TrueNAS on it. A bit of a learning curve, but got my SMB shares working on it. Got a few things to figure out, but this is just for home use and in no rush.
Hey Spacerex it seems your optimism for the anticipated lineup doesnt seem to be reflected in these comments if they insist on Synology drives and no 10Gbe 😅.
@@regwatson2017 they effectively use us. Giving pennies on the dollar for just basic functionality. I really though the 423 was a gag or hoax, I couldn't beli3ve they would stoop soo low to rebrand a 920 and dangle a simple pool for 3 times the price. Ignore me and abuse me for 4 years, to go against Dell, no thanks...
Do you have videos on configuring "Object Storage" as opposed to traditional "File Storage" on the Synology NAS? Like if you're only intending to save videos and photos? Great video btw.
Good Video with clear concise explanation. What do you mean about a "Plex Bomb" capability. I have an old DS918+ plus and hanging out to upgrade. Are you talking about ability to play/encode hi res footage 4K/6K/8K?
My Synology DS420+ apparently is a "Plex Bomb" as well (has an Intel CPU with Quick Sync). AFAIC, it is OK that Synology gives users the option to buy energy-efficient AMD CPUs, but what if you want to use your NAS as a media server as well? Why can't they have Intel options, as they used to?
… and USB-C as a default external drive interface. Crazy that anything still offers USB-A anymore - especially something that everyone tries to max out the speed on.
I am actually happy with this. Most of the time there is no need to upgrade a NAS often. I would much rather have a long life, then a bunch of small upgrades that dont bring a ton
Yeah I think lots of models and fast is good for planned obsolescence - the fact I see so many people saying they have their models for years and years is really encouraging and the community support is more concentrated on a few models ... I don't know probably counterarguments to this as well
I run a Synology branded dual 25 GigE card on my 1821+, so 50 gigabit/s in aggregate. It connects to a Ubiquiti switch that has a few 25 GigE SFP28 ports. Regrettably I've not been able to fully saturate the available bandwidth.
Question: I currently have the DS220+ with (2) Ironwolf 12TB drives and am considering adding a DS923+ to get the RAID5 or SHR ability for file sharing and PLEX server support. Would a DS1823+ or DnS1825+ be a better choice? By the way I have been learning a bunch from your videos.
I have waited for a new model from Synology with current hardware, but it seems Synology is not interested. So I now went with the UGREEN NAS DXP6800 Pro 6-bay.Synology lost another customer.
If a DS1825+ requires Synology drives it won't sell, the cost differential between it and the xs will be marginal by the time you have fitted those lunatic priced Synology drives in the 16TB and greater sizes. I would have a DS1823xs+ now if it took IronWolf Pro HDs.
I don't know if anybody who can help will see this, maybe they will. I'm looking to get a NAS for home use. A bit part of it will be as a plex server (I need transcoding as I want to be able to stream outside the house), I also want it for general media and backups. Additionally I was thinking of getting a front door camera and having it save to the NAS. I was thinking that the DS920+ would work well for my needs but it appears to not be particularly easy to get any more and is selling for too high of a markup. I liked it being a 4 bay NAS with an intel processor that was also easily expandable if I ever needed to go up to 5-9 drives. Any other suggestions? I was looking at maybe the QNAP TS-464? I'm pretty new to NAS.
If it came with 10GbE or even 2.5GbE, then it would leave the PCIe free for more NVMe's, but by the looks of it this is underwhelming, I won't be upgrading... The only thing that keeps me with Synology is ABB for VM backups, but Broadcom has put the bullet to ESXi, so unless Synology starts supporting Proxmox, there is no feature or hardware really that benefits the home-labber...
I have the DS1621+ (32gb ram) and DX517 extension, with the max 105TB and of course 10gbe. For me the limitation is the SSD cache. Have 2x2 TB in raid but simply not even close to get the indexing in cache. The indexing alone requires now 2,9tb. So I got to a point where I need to step away from Synology in the near future because of the lack of performance. Or the SSD cache price would get out of control. 1'000+ eur / 8tb ssd stick.
Your SSD cache upgrade may still be the easiest way to go -> 2000 euro is not bad vs buying something totally different and starting from zero with configuration...
Thanks your for this informative video. But i am confused when you tell synology does not require synogy HDD for the NAS 1821+. I just checked their website, its written "Synology will not provide technical support if your device is not on the Synology Products Compatibility List". So, although, they do not require to buy synology hdd, they require to buy hdd form their compatibility list. Furthermore And I noticed recently the only 20 TB drive "compatible" is a synology. I am thinking about to buy a NAS from synology, but I dont know what to think of their policies.
So this is where there are two different types of 'required drives'. The DS1821+ is the non-required one. Volume does not go orange, everything works file, has a somewhat full compatibility list. When I say require, I mean the hard requirements. I go over it here: ruclips.net/video/NoC3BA3kMo0/видео.html
I run a DS1621+ for PLEX movies and SONOS Audio (mostly FLAC). I run the Plex Server Media Server package on the Synology unit. This feeds a mix of Plex clients - Smart TVs and Apple TVs mostly. Works very well with the caveat that the Server doesn't transcode - all the rips are native resolution, which includes 4K Blu-rays. I rely on the Plex clients, to be able to handle streaming at native resolutions - which means I only play the 4K rips via the Apple TVs. This has worked very well for the last 30+ months - I added a 10Gb card to the Synology last year, but not because the 4K rips were stuttering simply extra bandwidth for the File transfers. The requirements related to Plex media streaming are very "use-case" specific - in my case 99% of the use-case is native-resolution streaming on the local LAN so I have no need for the Plex server to transcode. That being said, I am experimenting with a second Plex Server (VM on ProxMox) with enough "grunt" to handle transcoding - it will access the media on the Synology via one or more shares. - The only additional advice I would give, is ensure everything is linked via 1GB Ethernet (or better) - DONOT use Wifi and expect to stream native-resolution 4K Blu-rays without tears
@terryhopkins8059 for Plex go with the QNAP 453E or 464, if you want the best, go with the 874. You will need to transpose something at sometime, a lot soon than you think. The 874 is the ultimate NAS that will never be outdated in 20 years, I would go with that one.
ya the ryzen cpu in the 1821+ can't run plex fine if your transcoding. I'm hoping they actually use an intel cpu with quicksync (the N100 would be perfect). Otherwise the current ryzen cpu does fine. I'm not sure i'll upgrade from my 1821+ unless it has quicksync but i won't run it if its EOL so that will force me to upgrade. The network upgrade is not a big deal i already upgraded my 1821+ with dual SPF+.
The DS1821+ uses an AMD CPU which means that it is less than ideal for serving video files that require on the fly reencoding. If you want to run Plex Media Server on your NAS, you better getter a NAS with an Intel CPU with Quick Sync support. I have a NAS first and foremost for storage, but using it to play video to my TV directly without having to worry about which format the files are in is a very close second. My, in comparison, lowly DS420+ has such an Intel CPU, so no, you don't need a "purpose-built" NAS, you just need a suitable one.
I have both the DS1821+ and DS1621+ and love them both. I added 32GB RAM, 2TB RO Cache and (8) 14TB WD Drives in my 1821+ with a 10GbE NIC. The 1621+ has 20GB RAM and (6) 14TB drives with a 10GbE NIC. I have had zero limitations for my use case. Love them both. Worth every penny.
My DS1821+ has 8 Seagate IronWolf Pro 22 TB drives with 2 drive fault tolerance. It also has 2 WD SN850X 2TB SSD and stock Synology 10Gbe card. It's being used as a huge storage drive and a surveillance station with 7 Home security 4k Cameras. I'm happy with it and it will serve me for a few years to come.
12:26 "1821 plus is really not showing its age": With those lame 1Gb/s LAN ports and just 4GB memory and that AMD V1500B? One can love the Synology software but to claim that their 2021 hardware is "not showing its age" is astounding.
1825+ will prob have amd 15 cpu. I wish the amd 17 will make it, but the XS+ has it already. So the 1825+ will prob get the same cpu and a network update.
Active Backup for business is not fit for purpose to backup MacOS. It requires kernel extensions which is not recommended for security reasons. Looking elsewhere u less Synology ups their game
The 1823 is so much better cpu wise than the 1821 for docker, photo, and email services. And, dont mind the synology drive requirements because im not taking any chances with data... synology drives have performed very well and been reliable here, and i want synology standing fully behind it. The only limit is transcoding, where both 1800 units suck. Waiting fornext-generation 12 bay desktop too.
Most home users will not be interested in an 8 bay Synology. Synology is losing ground fast. They had better stop resting on their heals (DSM), DSM is fantastic, but Synology is lackluster at best when it comes to hardware. Very disappointed.
SMB moved away as well. This was y3ars in the making and they are done. Good luck to Synology in enterprise going against the big well established players, they will lose for years in that market. Go after a market you won't get and destroy the one that built you. They make zero sense.
Synology makes no sense. People complained 4 years ago and they made there bed and ignored all of us. Their hardware is way over priced and you are forced to use them because they are proprietary or to get basic functionality. The 923 doesnt perform any better than less expensive nases, the 423 was a joke. I went QNAP and they actually listened to the users and fixed their issue. Their software and hardware solutions are better for a lot now and you dont have to buy QNAP branded hardware...
@@SpaceRexWill In terms of the 2.5gbe, I just bought a UGREEN ethernet adapter and it's been fine with those third party drivers, native would be better though
I expect that the new 426+ that is to be released in about 1,5 year or so will feature the Intel n100 or similar cpu. Apart from that Synology will most likely focus on Ryzen for the larger units.
I know NasCompares spent a lot of his video talking about how they could replace the CPU without stepping on the 1823XS, and switching to the N100 would definitely differentiate from the XS. Slight problem being that I’m pretty sure the N100 might even be a downgrade vs the 1821+ CPU. I know it only supports single channel memory, and it might not have enough PCIe lanes for the 18 series.
This whole Synology branded drives requirement is BS. I hope their sales drop enough that they trash this requirement
It's a crappy way to wring money out of people who enjoy their products...especially considered they don't actually make their own drives...
I was just thinking to get on synology just for dsm. Looks like as a home user I am better off with the other alternatives.
I agree, but I think Synology have pretty much dropped the prosumer/enthusiast level now. I don't think it's intended for us.
I'd like to see Synology drives pricing drop instead, honestly I don't mind buying any brand HDD/SSD if the value is better than competition
@@cheeyuanng853well not really, as home user you don‘t need a model that has such requirements. DSM is far superior
You know what I abolutely love, the fact that all of my Tosbhia drives give that big old yellow warning stating that these drives are incompatible with my NAS when they are literally the exact same hard drives that Synology charges a markup for. (Toshiba is the white label manufacturer for Synology)
Synology must be falling apart internally. The lack of 2.5, the CPU choices across the recent releases, Active Backup still only supports Linux kernel 5.15, the hard drive requirements, the list goes on. Even if they are still selling a good number of units, they have lost out on so many sales over the past 2-3 years due to their unwillingness to adapt.
I think they are just suffering from "Big Company Syndrome" and they are just resting on their previous success and not falling apart internally. It happens to a lot of companies. I do agree with you that there is so much more that needs to be considered and they just are lacking...
yeah. this thing seriously needs some 2.5g ports
The kernel issue was solved with version 2.7
@@Realhussl1 When I wrote that the active backup site still said 5.15 only, but I see today it now says 5.15 to 6.8. The issue is it will likely be stuck on 6.8 for 3 more years. We'll see... Thanks for pointing it out.
Those reasons are why I'm going uGreen for my 1st NAS. Their stone age hardware mainly.
Well pulled the trigger on the DS1821+. I didn't see Synology on the list for booths at CES. So I don't think the 1825+ is coming out. Will are you headed to CES in Las Vegas?
Aaaaaaand …. Where is it? The longer it takes, the more we expect out of it…
If they ship AGAIN in 2025 without 10gbe (NOT upgrade!), this is again DOA. Their software is good, but with all the alternatives on the market is abusive to use such an outdated hardware in exchange of top money.
I'll be very surprised if they don't still ship with 1gbe ports and rip off anyone who wants 2.5gbe or higher and no transcoding with the cpu choice
The software is ok but far from perfect - Android apps suck (incomplete set, old UI, limited functionality), drive works great until it doesn't, hyper backup very slow, list goes on.
Looks like they've been sleeping on their laurels far too long
@@BoraHorzaGobuchulso what is the better alternative?
@@haknys depends on your use case, budget, IT proficiency. Qnap/Ugreen/diy. Each has pros and cons. Or still Synology, if it fits your requirements...
Synology take note
As a user of multiple products and someone that has deployed many of them to other businesses. Synology drives mandated means no more business from me
@roocrew86 QNAP is so nice to work with these days. They really caught up with the OS, they have a ton of apps to get the job done. I don't know how consultants can carry the water for synology still..
Excellent presentation. Thank you. I now refuse to buy a new NAS that does not have default 10gb. The system needs to have enough horsepower to read/write saturate the 10gb network port. I also refuse to be forced to buy outrageously priced Synology drives. For those into portable power stations - Synology is set to become the "Jackery" of the NAS world.
That would be awesome, thanks for the video!
My DS1515+ really starts showing it’s age. But I am also one of the VM/Docker folks you talk about. So the CPU spec bump would really come in handy for me as I already thought about buying a DS1821+ in the next months. Would be a great coincidence lol
1515+ here too. Surprised it’s still going tbh
Synology's insistence on using their branded drives is no different to the printer companies forcing the use of their specific cartridges and locking out aftermarket inks. I refuse to buy into that type of monopoly and buying a NAS drive is no different.
This is a NAS aimed at business. Ofc. it should have 10G outta the box. But it's the usual BS from Synology, with their sub par hardware.
Yess!! Finally, I am excited it's that it's going to be coming 🙌
This will be my first time purchasing, and building up a Nas.
Could not wait for Synology to upgrade their NAS hardware. Yes the Synology software is great. I purchased the QNAP tvs-h874x and UGreen DXP8800 plus for hardware to last for several years.
@@alonzosmith6189 the 874 will be my next purchase. That is an awesome NAS.
Better CPU, more ram, but it's a Synology so still 1gbe
Pcie 10g network cards are now very cheap, thankfully. Just a shame it takes trial and error to find a compatible one
3 months later and nothing yet :(
But I'll keep on waiting... I plan to upgrade from a DS1522+ (running with 5 Toshiba 20TB in RAID6).
Oh! I know how good is the 1821+ because I just got a fully fledge fully loaded and not feeling bad at all that 25+ is coming. I would love a video of best practices of how to set up users and groups and this kind of basics
my 1815 plus still rocking ..looking foward to the 1825
Regarding the DS1823XS+ requiring Synology branded drives, that seems kinda messed up. It would be differant if the drives were more competativly priced and offered larger capacities. I have a DS1819+ w/32GB of memory, 8 x 14TB, w/DX517 w 5 x 14TB. I has been a great unit. I recently got a DS923+ w/32GB of memory, 4 x 20TB drives. Do you know what the maximum drive size that the DX517 expansion unit can use?
coming soon!................ in 2032
My current Synology is long in the tooth so I picked up a TerraMaster and while TOS is buggy and feels dated, The hardware offering is not bad and just put TrueNAS on it. A bit of a learning curve, but got my SMB shares working on it. Got a few things to figure out, but this is just for home use and in no rush.
Hey Spacerex it seems your optimism for the anticipated lineup doesnt seem to be reflected in these comments if they insist on Synology drives and no 10Gbe 😅.
@@regwatson2017 they effectively use us. Giving pennies on the dollar for just basic functionality. I really though the 423 was a gag or hoax, I couldn't beli3ve they would stoop soo low to rebrand a 920 and dangle a simple pool for 3 times the price. Ignore me and abuse me for 4 years, to go against Dell, no thanks...
It may have a lot of slots for upgrades, but my DS1515 now in 2025 is unable to support the larger WD 20TB red pro drives... sadly.
Are we sure it will not require Synology drives? Now we have the plus line drives and I cannot see Synology supporting 3rd party drives. 3:17
This would be perfect timing for me as I'm just out growing my 1621+ and ready to upgrade 👍🏻
@SpaceRex What NAS would you recommend for a Plex server?
Depends whether or not you need hardware transcoding.
That said, go for any NAS that has hardware encoding for best performance.
Do you have videos on configuring "Object Storage" as opposed to traditional "File Storage" on the Synology NAS? Like if you're only intending to save videos and photos? Great video btw.
If you want to use that you want to use minio
@@SpaceRexWill Thank you that's very useful.
Sooo which Synology Unit is the Plex Monster? Still looking for that…
I wonder if you could retrofit a DS1825+ motherboard (with NICs) into a DS1821+ chassis?
Good Video with clear concise explanation. What do you mean about a "Plex Bomb" capability. I have an old DS918+ plus and hanging out to upgrade. Are you talking about ability to play/encode hi res footage 4K/6K/8K?
My Synology DS420+ apparently is a "Plex Bomb" as well (has an Intel CPU with Quick Sync). AFAIC, it is OK that Synology gives users the option to buy energy-efficient AMD CPUs, but what if you want to use your NAS as a media server as well? Why can't they have Intel options, as they used to?
… and USB-C as a default external drive interface. Crazy that anything still offers USB-A anymore - especially something that everyone tries to max out the speed on.
620 slim could be actually replaced with some all-NVME NAS, with dual 10Gbe and optional PCIe 25/40Gbe expansion perhaps?
01:20 only now the model numbers made sense to me... thanks
Its very sad how slow Synology is releasing new models. Since months many of us are waiting for an upgrade and nothing happened!
I am actually happy with this.
Most of the time there is no need to upgrade a NAS often. I would much rather have a long life, then a bunch of small upgrades that dont bring a ton
Yeah I think lots of models and fast is good for planned obsolescence - the fact I see so many people saying they have their models for years and years is really encouraging and the community support is more concentrated on a few models ... I don't know probably counterarguments to this as well
I run a Synology branded dual 25 GigE card on my 1821+, so 50 gigabit/s in aggregate. It connects to a Ubiquiti switch that has a few 25 GigE SFP28 ports. Regrettably I've not been able to fully saturate the available bandwidth.
I am not sure that I would see a Synolgy as being the way forward anymore.
@PhotonCompute went with QNAP and very happy I did... they transformed themselves in the last 3 years...
For me, I chose the DS1821+ since it was the last one in the line up with 8 bays and SHR to allow for me to add drives slowly and spread out the cost.
So RAID5/6 also allow you to add drives over time. But SHR allows you to add larger drives and get. their space
Question: I currently have the DS220+ with (2) Ironwolf 12TB drives and am considering adding a DS923+ to get the RAID5 or SHR ability for file sharing and PLEX server support. Would a DS1823+ or DnS1825+ be a better choice? By the way I have been learning a bunch from your videos.
One thing missing from 1821 is USB C. So many external drives and devices are USB C now I would bet they switch some or all the USB ports
I have waited for a new model from Synology with current hardware, but it seems Synology is not interested. So I now went with the UGREEN NAS DXP6800 Pro 6-bay.Synology lost another customer.
when 2425+... i feel like its been ages and ages and i dont want to replace my 2419's with 2422's just before a new one comes out.... save me
If a DS1825+ requires Synology drives it won't sell, the cost differential between it and the xs will be marginal by the time you have fitted those lunatic priced Synology drives in the 16TB and greater sizes. I would have a DS1823xs+ now if it took IronWolf Pro HDs.
I don't know if anybody who can help will see this, maybe they will. I'm looking to get a NAS for home use. A bit part of it will be as a plex server (I need transcoding as I want to be able to stream outside the house), I also want it for general media and backups. Additionally I was thinking of getting a front door camera and having it save to the NAS.
I was thinking that the DS920+ would work well for my needs but it appears to not be particularly easy to get any more and is selling for too high of a markup. I liked it being a 4 bay NAS with an intel processor that was also easily expandable if I ever needed to go up to 5-9 drives. Any other suggestions? I was looking at maybe the QNAP TS-464? I'm pretty new to NAS.
If it came with 10GbE or even 2.5GbE, then it would leave the PCIe free for more NVMe's, but by the looks of it this is underwhelming, I won't be upgrading... The only thing that keeps me with Synology is ABB for VM backups, but Broadcom has put the bullet to ESXi, so unless Synology starts supporting Proxmox, there is no feature or hardware really that benefits the home-labber...
I wish we had a video showing how to install Synology NAS onto your own hardware... these days tower servers are pretty cheap
Wouldn't want to run data storage on a cracked os
I love my 8 bay NASes. :) Would consider an upgrade if it's worth it.
Is the ds1522+ ok to run plex? Or...
I have the DS1621+ (32gb ram) and DX517 extension, with the max 105TB and of course 10gbe.
For me the limitation is the SSD cache. Have 2x2 TB in raid but simply not even close to get the indexing in cache. The indexing alone requires now 2,9tb. So I got to a point where I need to step away from Synology in the near future because of the lack of performance. Or the SSD cache price would get out of control. 1'000+ eur / 8tb ssd stick.
Your SSD cache upgrade may still be the easiest way to go -> 2000 euro is not bad vs buying something totally different and starting from zero with configuration...
Thanks your for this informative video. But i am confused when you tell synology does not require synogy HDD for the NAS 1821+. I just checked their website, its written "Synology will not provide technical support if your device is not on the Synology Products Compatibility List". So, although, they do not require to buy synology hdd, they require to buy hdd form their compatibility list. Furthermore And I noticed recently the only 20 TB drive "compatible" is a synology. I am thinking about to buy a NAS from synology, but I dont know what to think of their policies.
So this is where there are two different types of 'required drives'. The DS1821+ is the non-required one. Volume does not go orange, everything works file, has a somewhat full compatibility list.
When I say require, I mean the hard requirements.
I go over it here: ruclips.net/video/NoC3BA3kMo0/видео.html
@@SpaceRexWill thanks you for your clarification.
What's your recommendation NAS unit if I want to only use it for PLEX movies and Audia CD music..?
I run a DS1621+ for PLEX movies and SONOS Audio (mostly FLAC). I run the Plex Server Media Server package on the Synology unit. This feeds a mix of Plex clients - Smart TVs and Apple TVs mostly. Works very well with the caveat that the Server doesn't transcode - all the rips are native resolution, which includes 4K Blu-rays. I rely on the Plex clients, to be able to handle streaming at native resolutions - which means I only play the 4K rips via the Apple TVs. This has worked very well for the last 30+ months - I added a 10Gb card to the Synology last year, but not because the 4K rips were stuttering simply extra bandwidth for the File transfers. The requirements related to Plex media streaming are very "use-case" specific - in my case 99% of the use-case is native-resolution streaming on the local LAN so I have no need for the Plex server to transcode. That being said, I am experimenting with a second Plex Server (VM on ProxMox) with enough "grunt" to handle transcoding - it will access the media on the Synology via one or more shares. - The only additional advice I would give, is ensure everything is linked via 1GB Ethernet (or better) - DONOT use Wifi and expect to stream native-resolution 4K Blu-rays without tears
@terryhopkins8059 for Plex go with the QNAP 453E or 464, if you want the best, go with the 874. You will need to transpose something at sometime, a lot soon than you think. The 874 is the ultimate NAS that will never be outdated in 20 years, I would go with that one.
Where is the 1625+??
ya the ryzen cpu in the 1821+ can't run plex fine if your transcoding. I'm hoping they actually use an intel cpu with quicksync (the N100 would be perfect). Otherwise the current ryzen cpu does fine. I'm not sure i'll upgrade from my 1821+ unless it has quicksync but i won't run it if its EOL so that will force me to upgrade. The network upgrade is not a big deal i already upgraded my 1821+ with dual SPF+.
The DS1821+ uses an AMD CPU which means that it is less than ideal for serving video files that require on the fly reencoding. If you want to run Plex Media Server on your NAS, you better getter a NAS with an Intel CPU with Quick Sync support. I have a NAS first and foremost for storage, but using it to play video to my TV directly without having to worry about which format the files are in is a very close second. My, in comparison, lowly DS420+ has such an Intel CPU, so no, you don't need a "purpose-built" NAS, you just need a suitable one.
I have both the DS1821+ and DS1621+ and love them both. I added 32GB RAM, 2TB RO Cache and (8) 14TB WD Drives in my 1821+ with a 10GbE NIC.
The 1621+ has 20GB RAM and (6) 14TB drives with a 10GbE NIC.
I have had zero limitations for my use case. Love them both. Worth every penny.
My DS1821+ has 8 Seagate IronWolf Pro 22 TB drives with 2 drive fault tolerance. It also has 2 WD SN850X 2TB SSD and stock Synology 10Gbe card. It's being used as a huge storage drive and a surveillance station with 7 Home security 4k Cameras.
I'm happy with it and it will serve me for a few years to come.
12:26 "1821 plus is really not showing its age": With those lame 1Gb/s LAN ports and just 4GB memory and that AMD V1500B? One can love the Synology software but to claim that their 2021 hardware is "not showing its age" is astounding.
1825+ will prob have amd 15 cpu. I wish the amd 17 will make it, but the XS+ has it already. So the 1825+ will prob get the same cpu and a network update.
I expect 2,5G NICs, support for all hard drives and no BS ”warnings” for not using Synology harddrives. Shape up for gods sake.
Active Backup for business is not fit for purpose to backup MacOS. It requires kernel extensions which is not recommended for security reasons. Looking elsewhere u less Synology ups their game
The 1823 is so much better cpu wise than the 1821 for docker, photo, and email services. And, dont mind the synology drive requirements because im not taking any chances with data... synology drives have performed very well and been reliable here, and i want synology standing fully behind it. The only limit is transcoding, where both 1800 units suck. Waiting fornext-generation 12 bay desktop too.
The DS1823xs+ is an awesome unit, with the only downside being the price.
Most home users will not be interested in an 8 bay Synology. Synology is losing ground fast. They had better stop resting on their heals (DSM), DSM is fantastic, but Synology is lackluster at best when it comes to hardware. Very disappointed.
SMB moved away as well. This was y3ars in the making and they are done. Good luck to Synology in enterprise going against the big well established players, they will lose for years in that market. Go after a market you won't get and destroy the one that built you. They make zero sense.
Too bad they gimped their product to be basically un-usable for home user.
so no SHR and only support for synology drives? meh
Don’t be ryzen, don’t be ryzen, Don’t be ryzen, don’t be ryzen, Don’t be ryzen, don’t be ryzen……………
dont be intel
Synology makes no sense. People complained 4 years ago and they made there bed and ignored all of us. Their hardware is way over priced and you are forced to use them because they are proprietary or to get basic functionality. The 923 doesnt perform any better than less expensive nases, the 423 was a joke. I went QNAP and they actually listened to the users and fixed their issue. Their software and hardware solutions are better for a lot now and you dont have to buy QNAP branded hardware...
If it has an iGPU, i'll probably swap my DS1821+ for it
If I had to bet, I dont think it's going to get an intel CPU, AMD has just been giving more price to performance for everything other than Plex.
@@SpaceRexWill In terms of the 2.5gbe, I just bought a UGREEN ethernet adapter and it's been fine with those third party drivers, native would be better though
I expect that the new 426+ that is to be released in about 1,5 year or so will feature the Intel n100 or similar cpu. Apart from that Synology will most likely focus on Ryzen for the larger units.
I think you nailed this. I think this is exactly what will happen
I know NasCompares spent a lot of his video talking about how they could replace the CPU without stepping on the 1823XS, and switching to the N100 would definitely differentiate from the XS. Slight problem being that I’m pretty sure the N100 might even be a downgrade vs the 1821+ CPU. I know it only supports single channel memory, and it might not have enough PCIe lanes for the 18 series.
You how easy it is to fake such a screen shot?
RS1225+ at the same time...pleaasseee.
You are making good videos! But please please please please, do not say because anymore 🙏
Based on latest info, no 2.5 NIC and USB port but with iGPU instead !! I'm all in.
I have had Synology for a while but man their products look stale now. Why would you choose this over a QNAP TVS-h874