I've yet to meet anyone that can recall any quotes from Kostner's " Wyatt Earp " but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting someone who knows at least one from " Tombstone " .
Only one I remember from the Costner movie is "I'm Wyatt Earp, and It Ends Now", with the accompanying Shotgun Blast. From "Tombstone" I remember at least a dozen & that is mostly due to Val Kilmer's Oscar Worthy(He Wuz Robbed) portrayal of my Fellow Georgian, John Henry "Doc" Holliday
Bartender: Wyatt, is there gonna be a fight?!? Wyatt: I think there must be... Doc: All of you can kiss my rebel dick! Big nose Kate: There's lots of reasons a person gets a name.
Wyatt was a man of his time. He made the most of what life dealt out. Some of us don't care about his flaws, because he was just a man. I think his bravery was beyond question. We have always needed heroes in our culture, flawed or not.
He was a sex trafficker who enslaved women. The shootout at the OK corral was a passenger not a shootout. He read crooked card games and was famous for pistol whipping people and finding them. He was a piece of f****** garbage. He wasn't a man of his time any more than a murdering card cheat 6 trafficker today is.
I used to live down the street from Colma, CA (town motto is "It's Good to be Alive in Colma"). They took Wyatt Earp's headstone out because people kept stealing it. He is buried in the Jewish Cemetery but Colma is pretty much nothing but cemeteries. A few thousand residents and about a 1.5million dead people. We used to steal the maintenance carts and drive around the cemeteries drunk all the time. I was a lot younger but now I realize how disrespectful I was.
Hey Josh, I found your podcast on RUclips and am hooked on it now. I subscribed and got caught up on all the past episodes. Keep up the good work sir. 👏
Great episode as always Josh. I believe that Wyatt Earp did fix that fight. He always seemed to be out to make the most money as possible and go where the money was. It's possible that he was paid to fix that fight. Him and Josephine had money problems in later years I know, she was supposedly a pretty heavy gambler and lost quite a bit of money. Any chance on doing a video on someone else from the Tombstone area, maybe Texas Jack Vermillion or Turkey Creek Jack Jonson or Sherman McMasters?
@@davidsloan3480 yes I think so too. I have never seen anyone do a video on Texas Jack Vermillion or Turkey Creek Jack Johnson or Sherman McMasters. I have only seen a couple on Warren Earp.
Hey bloody beaver! I just happen to see the notification come through and since I was just cooking me some sausage for breakfast ..I thought I’d holler at you and tell you. Hey, I appreciate your show .. Im a world famous amateur wild west historian myself .just kidding. 🤣🤣🤣 but anyway think you do a good job.
Well I guess you'll have to do an episode on Huckleberry Hound. He is a highly regarded Wild West Sheriff that kicked ass! Great video on Earp and his later years. But what about his adventures in Alaska?
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I think the guy's name was Alan Barra. He wrote a book about how Wyatt's image changed from generation to generation based more on what people who recreate the narrative want to say. Despite all the negativity the image of Wyatt remains etched firmly in our history probably best described by a woman who was an eye witness to the gun fight. It went something like this. "All these people were shooting and they were all moving around and then they were all down. Except one man who just stood there calmly shooting and was the only one still standing."
I read somewhere that John Wayne, Matt Wyatt they had a chat, and that John Wayne’s affect on the screen. The side shuffle and manner of speech was taken from Wyatt and how he talked and walked
I've heard this too, and I've even repeated it, but it turns out there's no basis for it. In fact Wayne based his walk and persona on cowboy and stunt man Yakima Canutt.
Sorry to keep popping up in your comments but I have been to the Earp’s gravesite in Colma, Ca and he’s buried next to “his wife-Josephine.” You keep referring to her as Sadie. Was that his nickname for her? I thought he called her “Josie,” but haven’t heard the Sadie name before. Great stuff as usual! (My stepdad escaped from the Northern California lumber camp where Jim Jones had him working as child (slave) labor after his mother sold their Ohio farm, gave the proceeds from its sale to Jones , and followed his “flock” out there. He snuck out of the camp after 6 months, got his mother, and high-tailed it back to Ohio where he became a police officer. Jones flew everyone to Guyana about 4 years after he got his mom out of the cult. (He was 15 years old) True story! I have the junior high paper I wrote for “Problems of Democracy” where I retell his story, the same year as the mass suicide. (As for your age, I would have guessed you were closer to mine but, if you never watched Huckleberry Hound on Saturday mornings, I guess I’m fartin’ a bit more dust than you!) 😂👍🏼. Seriously excellent work-both on your research and your presentation!
That's crazy about your step dad! And yes, Josephine was her actual name but from what I understand during Wyatt's life she always simply went by Sadie. She also used Sadie as a teenager. Later in life as she helped to kinda white wash Earp's legacy she began going by Josephine and Josie.
@@WildWestExtravaganza Awesome. I have Stuart Lake’s book-as well as the complete series of Time Life books and dozens of others about the Earp’s-I even drug my wife on “The Old West pilgrimage” in 1993-stops at Little Bighorn, Doc’s grave in Colorado, Wyatt and Josephine’s graves in Colma, stayed a couple nights in Tombstone, stopped at Skeleton Canyon where Geronimo surrendered, have a degree in early American history, and I love learning how much I still DON’T know! (No sarcasm at all in that statement btw) As for my stepdad, yeah, we have never understood how he managed to live through so much “crazy,” and come out the most even-headed, good person and responsible man he is. His two older sisters didn’t do as well-they were lucky enough to have been out of the house when Jone’s “bought the farm” or GOT the farm, with Gary and his mom still on it, but they didn’t fare nearly as well as he did. Go figure. I am certain I was the only person in my 7th grade POD class (1978) who had a “primary source” in his bibliography on the Jamestown Massacre as it came to be know. (And where “drinking the Koolaid” entered common vernacular!) lol. Best wishes for your continued success! 👍🏼✌🏼
But Jo'osh..... Finally have caught up to the current episode after watching all your others! Edit Only discovered your podcast about a month ago here in Australia
Fitzsimmons was a Cornishman, and we're very proud to have had a heavyweight champion boxer. That said it should be known, Earp has been forgiven...just.
This is something I've repeated myself but turns out there's no proof of them meeting. According to David Lambert, Wayne developed his persona with the actor Paul Fix and based on cowboy/stuntman Yakima Canutt.
Great Job as usual. Don't surprise me none that he was involved in the fix, hell, it was the old west and everyone's gotta eat. BUT (and this is a big but, bigger than Kim Kardashian's) it still looks like the Earps were the lesser of the two evils in the Okay Corral gunfight, from what I've read anyway. You can correct me if I'm wrong
The herbs went in heavily armed against men who were barely armed and who's crime was a minor misdemeanor resulting in a fine. The herbs for six cards. Earth was famous for pistol-whipping cowboys at finding them. Which was how he got paid. There are reports that the herbs also Russell cattle and did stagecoach robberies. The herbs were not the good guys they were the bad guys don't matter how strongly you want to maintain that fantasy
As for Sadie being Pissed and Doc being Tickled to death about it all, I'd say you are Spot On. Sadie had Massive Delusions of Grandeur, combined with a massive over estimation of her "Power"........As a young woman, Sadie may have been a "Spinner", but later on she was just a Bitch, and Doc was always known as a sort of Iconoclast, and having a Wry, Sardonic & Biting Sense Of Humor, Who actually Killed far fewer men than he is credited with. I've come up with 3, including 1 from the OK Corral Kerfuffle, but discounting the Spurious from the beginning tale that "Doc Killed A Negro as a teenager in Georgia". Doc may have killed a Black Soldier later on, but that's only slightly less provable as the shooting in Georgia. Of course I could be wrong about it all, since I've only been digging thru everything I can find regarding Doc, Wyatt and the rest for 50+ years.....All of it as a fan, and no claim to be anything but a dedicated(Remember I had to Work for a living all the way and never made a Dime from anything Historical, other than almost 20 years as an Antique Dealer,) but Decidedly Amateur Historian
Wayne would talk to Earp at the cafeteria at the studio.Earp was a ghost writer/consultant for some early movies & Wayne looking for a true western hero milked him for information. Rumor has it Wayne's walk mimicked Earps many years in the saddle.
In nineteen hundred and nine I am sure of myself I eyed ball Wyatt in a parlor he eyed me back as well,I was wearing my brand new six shooter,the haires on his left hand raised up,I looked at him as he walked away. Money Mike
Wyatt didnt "tell his story" first money. Sure he needed it and sure he'd take it. He did primarily to help the Earp name, which was tarnished. And he wasn't much if a speaker. He let the writers take insinuations and go with it. That's why the Hooker, Flood and Lake books are all different.
@@WildWestExtravaganza Are there any known recordings of Wyatt's voice? It's been said he was intelligent, well educated (which was not common among frontiersmen,) & his 19th century prose even "flowery"@times. Masterson, Holiday, & Ringold likewise were said to be educated.
Soooooo is it or is it not true that in 1928 a unknown actor or want to be actor named marion robert morrison met wyatt earp on a movie set... Historians disagree .marrion robert morrison later changed his name to john Wayne
Liked Jack London's writings as a kid after he had long passed. White Fang, Call of the Wild, Sea Wolf and whatnot. That being said anybody that associated with him whilst he was living is a suspected commie in my book.
I've yet to meet anyone that can recall any quotes from Kostner's " Wyatt Earp " but you can't swing a dead cat without hitting someone who knows at least one from " Tombstone " .
"Y'all can kiss mah rebel dick"
" I considered ending it myself but... Self control got the better of me"
Doc Holiday
Only one I remember from the Costner movie is "I'm Wyatt Earp, and It Ends Now", with the accompanying Shotgun Blast.
From "Tombstone" I remember at least a dozen & that is mostly due to Val Kilmer's Oscar Worthy(He Wuz Robbed) portrayal of my Fellow Georgian, John Henry "Doc" Holliday
Bartender: Wyatt, is there gonna be a fight?!?
Wyatt: I think there must be...
Doc: All of you can kiss my rebel dick!
Big nose Kate: There's lots of reasons a person gets a name.
"Wives come and go. That's the plain truth of it. They leave... they die."
I can recall the entire movie lol
Wyatt was a man of his time. He made the most of what life dealt out. Some of us don't care about his flaws, because he was just a man. I think his bravery was beyond question. We have always needed heroes in our culture, flawed or not.
He was a sex trafficker who enslaved women. The shootout at the OK corral was a passenger not a shootout. He read crooked card games and was famous for pistol whipping people and finding them. He was a piece of f****** garbage. He wasn't a man of his time any more than a murdering card cheat 6 trafficker today is.
I love your work. I was the gun expert and instructor on "Tombstone" maybe we can talk sometime.
Can you email me?
I used to live down the street from Colma, CA (town motto is "It's Good to be Alive in Colma"). They took Wyatt Earp's headstone out because people kept stealing it. He is buried in the Jewish Cemetery but Colma is pretty much nothing but cemeteries. A few thousand residents and about a 1.5million dead people. We used to steal the maintenance carts and drive around the cemeteries drunk all the time. I was a lot younger but now I realize how disrespectful I was.
Hey Josh, I found your podcast on RUclips and am hooked on it now. I subscribed and got caught up on all the past episodes. Keep up the good work sir. 👏
Thanks!
Another foray into history excellence sir! Thank you so much, and keep em coming.
I'm trying
Great video to start the new year. You are fantastic as always. Thank you, Josh.
Thank you sir
This is so awesome and extremely interesting.......Thank you 😊!
Glad you enjoyed it!
HELLDORADO is a Hell of a book.
Bat Masterson thought very highly of Earp.
Yes he did
So the $64 question: did you think highly of Bat?@@WildWestExtravaganza
I love your videos you do such a great job at telling the story's of the old west. Thanks for giving me a good time lol. Your awesome !!!
Thanks
"Well buy...." Is a great one for sure... Another great episode senor.
I’ve been waiting!!! So excited to listen to this before bed!!!!
Great episode as always Josh. I believe that Wyatt Earp did fix that fight. He always seemed to be out to make the most money as possible and go where the money was. It's possible that he was paid to fix that fight. Him and Josephine had money problems in later years I know, she was supposedly a pretty heavy gambler and lost quite a bit of money. Any chance on doing a video on someone else from the Tombstone area, maybe Texas Jack Vermillion or Turkey Creek Jack Jonson or Sherman McMasters?
Absolutely a chance
The members of the vendetta ride, would be really interested personally
@@davidsloan3480 yes I think so too. I have never seen anyone do a video on Texas Jack Vermillion or Turkey Creek Jack Johnson or Sherman McMasters. I have only seen a couple on Warren Earp.
Hey bloody beaver! I just happen to see the notification come through and since I was just cooking me some sausage for breakfast ..I thought I’d holler at you and tell you. Hey, I appreciate your show .. Im a world famous amateur wild west historian myself .just kidding. 🤣🤣🤣 but anyway think you do a good job.
Well I guess you'll have to do an episode on Huckleberry Hound. He is a highly regarded Wild West Sheriff that kicked ass!
Great video on Earp and his later years. But what about his adventures in Alaska?
Soon
Huckleberry hound is my all the time for life fav
You got me good with the show sponser bit. Well done as usual mate.
Great way to End the movie quote segment with a DOC Holliday quote!!!
A good listen 🍺
Thanks
Thank you for putting out these fine videos. Keep up the hard work and God bless Texas.
these videos are awesome, thanks for your thorough research!
Glad you like them!
But first let's take a quik for a word from this episodes sponsor...I was like ok where's he going this time, getting my attention now ready for a cheesey add but...welkome bakk 😂 hilarious J just good work sir
Another awesome episode thanks for the mention
I wonder if Wyatt ever met Jack London. Jack spent some time around very early Hollywood.
I think the guy's name was Alan Barra. He wrote a book about how Wyatt's image changed from generation to generation based more on what people who recreate the narrative want to say. Despite all the negativity the image of Wyatt remains etched firmly in our history probably best described by a woman who was an eye witness to the gun fight. It went something like this. "All these people were shooting and they were all moving around and then they were all down. Except one man who just stood there calmly shooting and was the only one still standing."
Grew up in the western 🇺🇸 thank you for bringing my childhood heros into my life again.
Always good to watch my guy 👌🏽
I like the movie "Hour Of The Gun" with James Garner
Good one
I have always liked the phrase " alright longer, let's do it!". I used it in high school before a fight in the late 90s
Good one
Lunger, not longer
@@tomjones9935 ok.
Good episode, dude. Enjoyed it.
How 'bout a Heck Thomas episode?
I'm just gonna keep asking till you get tired of it 😜
Oh it's happening just don't know when
Cool. I'll be there!
Was his voice ever recorded?
Not that I’m aware of but I don’t know for certain
I would paramount to make a 10 episode series about Wyatt like they did with 1883.
Only if Wyatt is historically accurate - in other words, black.
I read somewhere that John Wayne, Matt Wyatt they had a chat, and that John Wayne’s affect on the screen. The side shuffle and manner of speech was taken from Wyatt and how he talked and walked
I've heard this too, and I've even repeated it, but it turns out there's no basis for it. In fact Wayne based his walk and persona on cowboy and stunt man Yakima Canutt.
Sorry to keep popping up in your comments but I have been to the Earp’s gravesite in Colma, Ca and he’s buried next to “his wife-Josephine.” You keep referring to her as Sadie. Was that his nickname for her? I thought he called her “Josie,” but haven’t heard the Sadie name before. Great stuff as usual! (My stepdad escaped from the Northern California lumber camp where Jim Jones had him working as child (slave) labor after his mother sold their Ohio farm, gave the proceeds from its sale to Jones , and followed his “flock” out there. He snuck out of the camp after 6 months, got his mother, and high-tailed it back to Ohio where he became a police officer. Jones flew everyone to Guyana about 4 years after he got his mom out of the cult. (He was 15 years old) True story! I have the junior high paper I wrote for “Problems of Democracy” where I retell his story, the same year as the mass suicide. (As for your age, I would have guessed you were closer to mine but, if you never watched Huckleberry Hound on Saturday mornings, I guess I’m fartin’ a bit more dust than you!) 😂👍🏼. Seriously excellent work-both on your research and your presentation!
That's crazy about your step dad! And yes, Josephine was her actual name but from what I understand during Wyatt's life she always simply went by Sadie. She also used Sadie as a teenager. Later in life as she helped to kinda white wash Earp's legacy she began going by Josephine and Josie.
@@WildWestExtravaganza Awesome. I have Stuart Lake’s book-as well as the complete series of Time Life books and dozens of others about the Earp’s-I even drug my wife on “The Old West pilgrimage” in 1993-stops at Little Bighorn, Doc’s grave in Colorado, Wyatt and Josephine’s graves in Colma, stayed a couple nights in Tombstone, stopped at Skeleton Canyon where Geronimo surrendered, have a degree in early American history, and I love learning how much I still DON’T know! (No sarcasm at all in that statement btw) As for my stepdad, yeah, we have never understood how he managed to live through so much “crazy,” and come out the most even-headed, good person and responsible man he is. His two older sisters didn’t do as well-they were lucky enough to have been out of the house when Jone’s “bought the farm” or GOT the farm, with Gary and his mom still on it, but they didn’t fare nearly as well as he did. Go figure. I am certain I was the only person in my 7th grade POD class (1978) who had a “primary source” in his bibliography on the Jamestown Massacre as it came to be know. (And where “drinking the Koolaid” entered common vernacular!) lol. Best wishes for your continued success! 👍🏼✌🏼
Great content. Appreciate your work
But Jo'osh.....
Finally have caught up to the current episode after watching all your others!
Edit Only discovered your podcast about a month ago here in Australia
Hello Australia
Old west and naked women 😆 😆 🤣 couple of my favorites too!
Works for me !! 🤠
Fitzsimmons was a Cornishman, and we're very proud to have had a heavyweight champion boxer.
That said it should be known, Earp has been forgiven...just.
You have a great voice and great writing
What’s your take on John Wayne meeting Earp and basing his walk , talk and cowboy persona off Wyatt ?
This is something I've repeated myself but turns out there's no proof of them meeting. According to David Lambert, Wayne developed his persona with the actor Paul Fix and based on cowboy/stuntman Yakima Canutt.
I’ve always thought the John Ford connection lent some credence to it but there’s no proof unfortunately.
Great Job as usual. Don't surprise me none that he was involved in the fix, hell, it was the old west and everyone's gotta eat. BUT (and this is a big but, bigger than Kim Kardashian's) it still looks like the Earps were the lesser of the two evils in the Okay Corral gunfight, from what I've read anyway. You can correct me if I'm wrong
The herbs went in heavily armed against men who were barely armed and who's crime was a minor misdemeanor resulting in a fine. The herbs for six cards. Earth was famous for pistol-whipping cowboys at finding them. Which was how he got paid. There are reports that the herbs also Russell cattle and did stagecoach robberies. The herbs were not the good guys they were the bad guys don't matter how strongly you want to maintain that fantasy
Proceed sir ,
Hey professor! Catch this 💥
As for Sadie being Pissed and Doc being Tickled to death about it all, I'd say you are Spot On. Sadie had Massive Delusions of Grandeur, combined with a massive over estimation of her "Power"........As a young woman, Sadie may have been a "Spinner", but later on she was just a Bitch, and Doc was always known as a sort of Iconoclast, and having a Wry, Sardonic & Biting Sense Of Humor, Who actually Killed far fewer men than he is credited with. I've come up with 3, including 1 from the OK Corral Kerfuffle, but discounting the Spurious from the beginning tale that "Doc Killed A Negro as a teenager in Georgia". Doc may have killed a Black Soldier later on, but that's only slightly less provable as the shooting in Georgia. Of course I could be wrong about it all, since I've only been digging thru everything I can find regarding Doc, Wyatt and the rest for 50+ years.....All of it as a fan, and no claim to be anything but a dedicated(Remember I had to Work for a living all the way and never made a Dime from anything Historical, other than almost 20 years as an Antique Dealer,) but Decidedly Amateur Historian
Oh, Josephine hated Doc. As he was a “bad influence” on Wyatt. She should not throw stones because she hooked up with Behan before Wyatt.
Is there any truth to the fact that Wyatt was instrumental in getting John Wayne into acting in Hollyweird?
I don't think so but I'll look more into it
Wayne would talk to Earp at the cafeteria at the studio.Earp was a ghost writer/consultant for some early movies & Wayne looking for a true western hero milked him for information.
Rumor has it Wayne's walk mimicked Earps many years in the saddle.
Who in the heck is this Sadie you kept mentioning? His wife's name was Josie.
Wyatt called her Sadie
Great stuff thank you.
Damm...missed first round. Set'm up Barkeep.
Earp was flawed like the rest of us. And a product of his time.
So a BIG take-away from this is THE PRESS AIN'T CHANGED MUCH....they're all still LYIN' SNAKES.
You missed Nuthin by not seeing Huckleberry Hound. I watched it all(every episode) as a kid on our One Channel & it was, to say the least, Forgettable
YAHOOOOO it's another episode🤣
In nineteen hundred and nine I am sure of myself I eyed ball Wyatt in a parlor he eyed me back as well,I was wearing my brand new six shooter,the haires on his left hand raised up,I looked at him as he walked away. Money Mike
Oh cool
Wyatt didnt "tell his story" first money. Sure he needed it and sure he'd take it. He did primarily to help the Earp name, which was tarnished. And he wasn't much if a speaker. He let the writers take insinuations and go with it. That's why the Hooker, Flood and Lake books are all different.
Very interesting
As more I learn from Wyatt Earp to me he was like a bully with a badge and 2 6 shooters.
Very sad that such a hero turned out to be unethical and not the hero we loved.
Sadie? You mean Josephine?
Apparently Wyatt and her friends called her Sadie, but yes this was Josephine
@@WildWestExtravaganza Are there any known recordings of Wyatt's voice? It's been said he was intelligent, well educated (which was not common among frontiersmen,) & his 19th century prose even "flowery"@times. Masterson, Holiday, & Ringold likewise were said to be educated.
Hmmm, good question. Not that I'm aware of.
Soooooo is it or is it not true that in 1928 a unknown actor or want to be actor named marion robert morrison met wyatt earp on a movie set... Historians disagree .marrion robert morrison later changed his name to john Wayne
To my knowledge this isn't true. I've heard it before many times but I think its a tall tale. I'll try to find out though
BTW, It's Marion Michael Morrison, from Winterset, Iowa.
Liked Jack London's writings as a kid after he had long passed. White Fang, Call of the Wild, Sea Wolf and whatnot. That being said anybody that associated with him whilst he was living is a suspected commie in my book.
I'm wyatt earp it all ends now
No sir... I don't like him... I think if I lived back then, me and him would have problems.
Hell yes
I comment this on mostly all your videos. Here's the context. ruclips.net/video/UfOgYkb1JCA/видео.html
WE HAVE A LIVING WYATT EARP AMONG US..... IN KYLE RITTENHOUSE! AKA THE KENOSHIA KID!