@@Nelson4207on amazon they sell dip stations that come with these rings. You tie em up to both handles and elevate your feet on a couch and you get the same set up you see in the video. Been doing it for years now.
It gives you stability when going down and it also takes out a bit of load at the bottom part, the most difficult part, so maybe you can gradually go deeper over time
The horizontal fiber orientation allows for there to be a middle chest to be emphasized, but if you refer to the vertical line between the two pecs being incapable of being targeted, you are absolutely correct!
You are thinking of the muscle heads themselves, there is only two parts the pectoralis major and the pectoralis minor, but within these is the three sub categories that @serotoninsound6253 mentioned
He’s talking about with bodyweight, not a bench, so it’s the opposite due to the shoulder angle differences: incline works lower a bit more, decline works upper. (Compare decline push up shoulder angle to incline bench shoulder angle) ….i think? 😅
@@WhiteLotusMan incline/decline is primarily based off of which way you are pushing. Pushing more toward your feet is decline and more toward your head is incline. This creator is likely confused because with body weight training you will angle your body with head towards ground to get that incline movement
Whichever one you can push harder without compensations. RTO is a great exercise, but I wouldn’t use it if hypertrophy was my primary goal because the rings turning in slightly is a very natural and common compensation that’s very hard to fight when youre pushing close to failure. Id prefer to do something that’s easier to keep a consistent rep standard like loaded push ups with or without rings, or loaded dips. If you’re working bodyweight only, RTO is a great option though, as is lean forward push ups. May need some additional chest isolation though as in many people these variations tend to hit the delts much more than the chest.
@@WhiteLotusMan Thanks for the reply. My chest responded better when I started doing weighted RTO, Don’t know exactly why but I was doing deficit pushups on Parallets before and I always felt my delts more than my chest. However, loading more weights on RTO is much harder than deficit pushups as it requires more stability and core strength to turn out the rings. I do weighted dips as well but still a bit confused if I should continue on doing weighted RTO or switch back to deficit pushups but maybe with a different hand grip on parallets e.g bench press grip or supernated grip….
@@mateenazeez have you tried regular ring push ups, only turning out and squeezing together at the top, instead of full RTO push ups? If I was adding weight, that’s what I would do! Especially since you said you feel them better than you do on p bars!
@@WhiteLotusMan That’s exactly what RTO is except you have to eventually turn out your hands, Which I don’t do. Think about dumbbell chest press, Thats how I do pushups on rings!
Oh okay. So when I hear RTO rings, I think of maintaining the rings out position the entire time, as it’s mentioned in Overcoming Gravity. It’s a brutal exercise! The way you’re doing them with RTO at the top only is just how I think regular ring push ups were done!
There's no such thing as a "middle" chest in the sense that you cannot isolate an intermediate section of the pecs, you essentially have an upper and lower chest and that's it..
I started doing ring flys recently and I'm seeing the my best chest gains ever. I do them weighted though by hanging plates on a belt off my back. Failure at 6 reps.
I am definitely not an expert on this subject and there are many variables to consider Most of the time that we have pain after a particular exercise is due to either la lack of stability muscles and/or mobility, of course I am assuming that you have not had injuries in the past If you haven't yet, I recommend you check out the SquatUniversity RUclips channel. Obviously the best thing to do would obviously be to go to a PT
I’m genuinely confused. But first let me say, I do think the rings are phenomenal. What you’re doing is great. My only gripe is that you said incline works lowers pecs and decline works upper, I’m confused on that. Also, the most gains for any muscle group come from the stretched position, not the full contraction. You should still do it, but as far as hypertrophy goes, you’d be better off doing partials imho. Just giving my opinion on it. But rings will make you jacked, period. They’re awesome! Cheers!
I'm a big guy 280 I've had moobs since puberty and my pecs grow fast when I just do pushups. I don't only do decline but it's the primary one when I start working out. About three weeks of mostly decline pushups and it looks like you hold your chest higher. *This is anecdotal my experience.
Assists you at the end range which gives you Access to variations you're not exactly strong enough for. Like decline flies can be incredibly hard for thicker guys so having the band will allow them to still target the upper chest even though the degree of difficulty would be too high without it.
@@chaddickens8704 thank you for the reply! I'll have to try that with my feet elevated and see how hard that is now. I'm currently pretty low to the ground with my rings.
@@chaddickens8704 thank you, I will try to elevate my feet and see if I can do that with a band. I thought the band was a way to make it harder but was not sure. Appreciate the help!
To elaborate, the band helps to bring the brings back together which effectively reduces the load on the chest which is already trying to bring the rings together. Going up is mostly just an unavoidable bi product of the movement and isn't the focus, you're mostly just keeping the load over the rings.
You got decline and incline mixed up. Decline focuses on lower and incline is more for upper. It's debatable if it's really the case, but that's generally accepted.
this isnt true. all rings do is cause your shoulder stabilizers to start working harder, and your wrists start coming into play. it doesnt work your chest more than a bench/dumbbell presss or cable flies would. please dont spread misinformation because youre running out of content to make money off of.
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straight elbow ? to train the gymnast exercise >is it fine to do
will it build straight arm strenght with bands ofc
Absolutely, i can do 100 pushups, press twice my weight, but when using rings, wow. I discovered muscles i didn't know i had
sounds awesome man. i wanna get my baseline strength up before i try rings but it looks like quite a good challenge
Well let me just bust out my ring setup 🤷 fr? 🤣
@@Nelson4207on amazon they sell dip stations that come with these rings. You tie em up to both handles and elevate your feet on a couch and you get the same set up you see in the video. Been doing it for years now.
@@Nelson4207 set of rings cost less than €50,-
@@Nelson4207go to a gym bro
That's why I follow this dude 🗿
Cheers boss
My upper chest is lagging asf
bro 😂
Ur upper chest is low ping
is it like a 45 degree angle?
Thanks brother very good advice as always
No problem 👍
There's no middle chest 💀
lol correct, it’s your sternum
Wrong there are fibers in the pec major which are costal, sterncostal, and claviclar
Wrong
@@agdunking3075 yeah but the mid chest is one muscle
@@saab35draken39 and is it called the mid chest?
With the bends ! How cleaver ! Thanks Daniel
Great video & to the point no BS
Daniel always posting quality informative stuff. Best fitness channel!
Man just love you
Can you explain the band and what it’s doing ? These look sick fun as I really like dumbbell flys 👍👍
I think it makes the exercise easier - the resistance of the band is working to boost you when you are at the bottom
It gives you stability when going down and it also takes out a bit of load at the bottom part, the most difficult part, so maybe you can gradually go deeper over time
There’s no middle chest 😩
The horizontal fiber orientation allows for there to be a middle chest to be emphasized, but if you refer to the vertical line between the two pecs being incapable of being targeted, you are absolutely correct!
As a physio i can tell you that the chest consists of 3 parts.
Clavicular (upper)
Sternal (mid)
Costal/abdominal (lower)
You are thinking of the muscle heads themselves, there is only two parts the pectoralis major and the pectoralis minor, but within these is the three sub categories that @serotoninsound6253 mentioned
Correct
Incline works upper chest. I'm guessing this is an honest mistake
He’s talking about with bodyweight, not a bench, so it’s the opposite due to the shoulder angle differences: incline works lower a bit more, decline works upper.
(Compare decline push up shoulder angle to incline bench shoulder angle)
….i think? 😅
@@WhiteLotusMan incline/decline is primarily based off of which way you are pushing. Pushing more toward your feet is decline and more toward your head is incline. This creator is likely confused because with body weight training you will angle your body with head towards ground to get that incline movement
You thought you were being smart but he is right, this isn't a bench press bruh it's different
@roronoauchiha69 the direction he’s pushing still determines what part of the chest your targeting
@@user-ft5oj2lz4r yeah this is a pushup incline trains lower pec and decline trains upper pec, this is not a bench press
Isn’t that the same as RTO pushups? Also which one is better for hypertrophy, RTO or Deficit pushups on parallets?
Whichever one you can push harder without compensations.
RTO is a great exercise, but I wouldn’t use it if hypertrophy was my primary goal because the rings turning in slightly is a very natural and common compensation that’s very hard to fight when youre pushing close to failure.
Id prefer to do something that’s easier to keep a consistent rep standard like loaded push ups with or without rings, or loaded dips.
If you’re working bodyweight only, RTO is a great option though, as is lean forward push ups. May need some additional chest isolation though as in many people these variations tend to hit the delts much more than the chest.
@@WhiteLotusMan Thanks for the reply. My chest responded better when I started doing weighted RTO, Don’t know exactly why but I was doing deficit pushups on Parallets before and I always felt my delts more than my chest. However, loading more weights on RTO is much harder than deficit pushups as it requires more stability and core strength to turn out the rings. I do weighted dips as well but still a bit confused if I should continue on doing weighted RTO or switch back to deficit pushups but maybe with a different hand grip on parallets e.g bench press grip or supernated grip….
@@mateenazeez have you tried regular ring push ups, only turning out and squeezing together at the top, instead of full RTO push ups?
If I was adding weight, that’s what I would do! Especially since you said you feel them better than you do on p bars!
@@WhiteLotusMan That’s exactly what RTO is except you have to eventually turn out your hands, Which I don’t do. Think about dumbbell chest press, Thats how I do pushups on rings!
Oh okay. So when I hear RTO rings, I think of maintaining the rings out position the entire time, as it’s mentioned in Overcoming Gravity. It’s a brutal exercise!
The way you’re doing them with RTO at the top only is just how I think regular ring push ups were done!
Can anyone share their experience with this exercise ?
u're the best,help me with what I can do to make my pacs to shaped fast
Reminds m of a chest expander
Bro said middle chest like that’s a thing
That also works out the abominal core at a whole different leave
There's no such thing as a "middle" chest in the sense that you cannot isolate an intermediate section of the pecs, you essentially have an upper and lower chest and that's it..
I just do Upwards cable flyes they work perfectly
Dope.
This also can be done with wheels or different kind of ab wheel
Dumbell flies we can do
ive tried this exercise and my chest was sooooo pumped
What if you dont have this or go to the gym is there any other exercise that you can do to increase your chest size?
How can I do declines when the incline is already very hard?
I started doing ring flys recently and I'm seeing the my best chest gains ever. I do them weighted though by hanging plates on a belt off my back. Failure at 6 reps.
My guy.
“incline press works the lower chest” goofba
My shoulders hurt after doing ring flys, so I left them out of my chest workout. Any advice?
I am definitely not an expert on this subject and there are many variables to consider
Most of the time that we have pain after a particular exercise is due to either la lack of stability muscles and/or mobility, of course I am assuming that you have not had injuries in the past
If you haven't yet, I recommend you check out the SquatUniversity RUclips channel.
Obviously the best thing to do would obviously be to go to a PT
How many reps can you do ? Maybe use a band if it’s too hard for you
Yo what's up with the modification of this resistance band??
Brother u have no idea lol
He is slightly looking like Ronaldo😅
I’m genuinely confused. But first let me say, I do think the rings are phenomenal. What you’re doing is great. My only gripe is that you said incline works lowers pecs and decline works upper, I’m confused on that. Also, the most gains for any muscle group come from the stretched position, not the full contraction. You should still do it, but as far as hypertrophy goes, you’d be better off doing partials imho. Just giving my opinion on it. But rings will make you jacked, period. They’re awesome! Cheers!
I'm a big guy 280 I've had moobs since puberty and my pecs grow fast when I just do pushups. I don't only do decline but it's the primary one when I start working out. About three weeks of mostly decline pushups and it looks like you hold your chest higher. *This is anecdotal my experience.
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I would love to do that but no way of getting them. No room in my dwelling and they don’t have em at the gym I frequent
How tf your shoulder joints not hurting on these
or you can just do the classic Dips.
Aren't those just wide ring push ups you're doing?
What’s an alternative work out of you don’t have access to rings?
DB fly
What does the band do when you use it here?
Assists you at the end range which gives you Access to variations you're not exactly strong enough for. Like decline flies can be incredibly hard for thicker guys so having the band will allow them to still target the upper chest even though the degree of difficulty would be too high without it.
@@chaddickens8704 thank you for the reply! I'll have to try that with my feet elevated and see how hard that is now. I'm currently pretty low to the ground with my rings.
Helps you at the hardest part of the movement to avoid injuries
@@chaddickens8704 thank you, I will try to elevate my feet and see if I can do that with a band. I thought the band was a way to make it harder but was not sure. Appreciate the help!
To elaborate, the band helps to bring the brings back together which effectively reduces the load on the chest which is already trying to bring the rings together. Going up is mostly just an unavoidable bi product of the movement and isn't the focus, you're mostly just keeping the load over the rings.
Do I need to use that rubber band too?
We dont instant gratificate
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Won't you get it from push ups???
Unfortunately, my YMCA (the biggest in Canada) has no rings.
You got decline and incline mixed up. Decline focuses on lower and incline is more for upper. It's debatable if it's really the case, but that's generally accepted.
But does it improve strength?
What is the function of the band?
To make it easier
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Yeah and everyone just has access to trapeze artist equipment freely and abundantly
The chest has only 2 heads
maybe unintentional misinformation but …
incline=upper chest
decline=lower chest
(there is no middle chest)
-anyone w an anatomy textbook
Incline = head up, so lower chest
Decline = head down, so upper chest
Its relative to your position, not the bar
@@jay12898 wrong their is a costal fiber which is referred as the mid chest
Flys are great but if you don't have them do pushups. Sounds simple and bonehead but pushups are where it'''s at.
Why the band?
Ring flys are pretty hard. The band will make it easier while allowing you to choose the angle you want to use
@@HartyBikerId say the bands make it harder on The eccentric part of it
@lokey987 no, you aren't actually pushing the rings apart on the eccentric, you're trying to stop them from flying apart too quickly.
"isolation is your best friend" proceeds to talk about ring pushups that are the complete opposite of that
Does TRX work the same?
Bro you know that it's the same thing right?
@@aliabdelazeem3811 Obviously, but i just wanted to make sure, because rings have that curve yk. Anyways, thanks.
It's not. I've been using trx for years before switching to rings. They are alot harder because they are anchored separately
There only 2 muscles on chest
There is no middle chest
He also mixed up what the focus of incline and decline bench are.
Gainz? I got a physic like yours in 2 month i swear and lost 20 kg bodyfat. You guys can ask me for my programm.
No one builds a massive chest fast, stop
This won't do it. You need to bench heavy weight for a big chest.
this isnt true. all rings do is cause your shoulder stabilizers to start working harder, and your wrists start coming into play. it doesnt work your chest more than a bench/dumbbell presss or cable flies would.
please dont spread misinformation because youre running out of content to make money off of.
Mr Fitness if you wouldn’t mind , if there any gluteous medious issues youve come across through calisthenics? Ty God bless
0 stability
But your pecs arent massive doh?
I make movie edits.
no such thing as middle chest
You have decline and incline mixed up and it is literally insane and you should be ignored and thrown in prison. What a huge mistake