Georgia Southern ran a very similar style as this when Willie Fritz was their coach. He took over their 2nd year in D1, and he was able to lead them to a 18-7 record in his first two seasons with this offense. In those 7 losses they lost to NC State by 1, GT by 4, and UGA by 6. They also killed Western Michigan who went 13-1 the next season. They had the leader in the country (Matt Breida) each of those 2 years in YPC. He had 374carries, 3,094yrds, 34 rush TDs, an he averaged 8.2 YPC over those two years. This past season (2016-2017) Fritz left for Tulane, GSU went to more of a up tempo 2*2/3*1 offense, and Breida only had 168carries, 646yrds, 3 Rush TDs, and only averaged 3.8YPC. Under Fritz they ran very similar formations to the ones covered in the video. They used more orbit/return motion with their slots, but essentially the 3 back formation was created by the motion man. They also used the 3 back formation in a standard split back set with a sniffer as well. They also used the I formation from the gun, but they didn't use the Maryland-I, they went standard I with a sniffer to one side or the other. Their offense was very similar to Auburn's offense, but they utilized triple option more so than Jet Sweep like Auburn uses. All of these 3 back spread looks come from Urban Meyer. Well, technically they come from the single wing, but these spread teams are essentially running formations Florida ran with Tebow. The split back with a sniffer look was a staple of Florida's offense in 2008, and those Florida teams was the first time I saw this formation. That's around the time I started using it, and we even named it Gator Right/Left because that's who I borrowed it from. If everyone likes this offense you should go check out GSU's games from 2014 and 2015, or even watch 2008 Florida vs Florida State, and you'll see what Meyer and Tebow did with this formation. They ran more power-read/counter-read (front-side reads). Anyway, I love this video coach because it's very similar to the offense we run, and we've had a ton of success with it. I'm glad you enjoyed it enough to make a video over it.
Just told my son to take a look at what you are breaking down. We run the same exact thing but we have midline, power and power read (and some other stuff). Simple quick game stuff and rpo the inverts. Everything you said about the triple game and RPO's is what I've been preaching for some time. Good breakdown here.
Good stuff and it sort of solidified my thought process. Interestingly, by the end of the year, my favorite and most productive formation was that split back with a slot (just wider than the sniffer). Very similar to what New Mexico does.... I used to be an under center triple option guy, but migrated to the gun a few years ago. I recently took over a struggling program and didn't have a guy that could execute the gun option run game (or I did a poor job of coaching it). I do have a rising junior that saw some time later in the year. He looked pretty good and should be my guy moving forward. I'll have to do a better job of coaching it up though.. He is a short guy, but a home run threat at qb. He can throw, just has problems finding windows (only 5'6"). I think that he probably could execute most of those passing concepts even if we move the pocket. We run most of what you mentioned in regards to the passing game except Mesh. Like I said, this solidifies my thought process. Glad to be able to listen and share. Last point, maybe I'm just selfish, could there be a future video about maximizing the passing game with shorter qb's? Great stuff Coach. Keep it up.
This would be excellent, I agree. I coach in the UK and we never have the luxury of any Big Ben's at QB! In fact we have a guy who is having to drop down the roster as despite having the mechanics down in training, can't translate that into a game situation as he simply gets lost back there.
Great video once again coach. I have a question for you. In regards to the HS passing game how many pass plays would you have in your offense. Don't want to over do it in regarding plays but I don't want to have to little in the offense. If I could get your opinion on the matter that would be great. Thanks
I am just over 7 minutes into this video and two things: 1) that video converter trial message which keeps showing on-screen is annoying, and 2) just say regardless.
As a die hard Husker fan, I can really appreciate your "...eye candy and wrinkles..." statement because when Tom Osborne was the head coach at Nebraska, that was exactly what he did. For example, he'd have a base play such as 11/19 Sprint Option, but he could block it 6 different ways to give the defense tons of different looks. It was the same (by my admittedly non-insider non-coach analysis) 15 basic running plays. However, with each play being able to be blocked 6 different ways, out of practically any formation, and personnel grouping, it was practically unstoppable. Combine that with the intensity and physicality those Nebraska teams played with and the Huskers were practically unstoppable. Aside from the zone read elements, schematically, New Mexico's offense appears to use many of the same concepts Tom Osborne did. Gawd, I love football and could talk X's abd O's all day. Great stuff so far Coach.
Great video coach! The only thing I would consider changing is the pass concepts. I think I would go with 1. 4 verticals 2. Flood (#1 runs fade, #2 runs 10 yard out, #3 runs flat) 3. Deep cross 4. Snag The reason I say that is because I think those concepts can be run both as a five step drop and as play action off of the base runs.
And sorry to deluge you with comments, but (again to my non-coach eyes) Coach Frost at Nebraska in his uptempo spread seems to run many of these concepts as well. Makes sense seeing as how Frost played QB at Nebraska under Tom Osborne. Husker Football 💪🏈🌽📈
Not a great explanation of triple option. There is a much easier count system to use for who the dive and pitch key is. Also would never try to throw in spread RPO concepts bc it’s totally different. This offense is much closer to flexbone, I believe this coach is a spread guy by the way he explains it. If anyone has questions about how to simplify everything let me know
hey coach, quick question...recently applied to be a head coach at a h.s. and i'm trying to set up my program..and was wondering if you could give a couple pointers to started maybe where i can start as far as setting up a playbook...(spread offense)
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Christ on a rubber crutch I was like wtf? Is this? Lol
Georgia Southern ran a very similar style as this when Willie Fritz was their coach. He took over their 2nd year in D1, and he was able to lead them to a 18-7 record in his first two seasons with this offense. In those 7 losses they lost to NC State by 1, GT by 4, and UGA by 6. They also killed Western Michigan who went 13-1 the next season. They had the leader in the country (Matt Breida) each of those 2 years in YPC. He had 374carries, 3,094yrds, 34 rush TDs, an he averaged 8.2 YPC over those two years. This past season (2016-2017) Fritz left for Tulane, GSU went to more of a up tempo 2*2/3*1 offense, and Breida only had 168carries, 646yrds, 3 Rush TDs, and only averaged 3.8YPC.
Under Fritz they ran very similar formations to the ones covered in the video. They used more orbit/return motion with their slots, but essentially the 3 back formation was created by the motion man. They also used the 3 back formation in a standard split back set with a sniffer as well. They also used the I formation from the gun, but they didn't use the Maryland-I, they went standard I with a sniffer to one side or the other. Their offense was very similar to Auburn's offense, but they utilized triple option more so than Jet Sweep like Auburn uses.
All of these 3 back spread looks come from Urban Meyer. Well, technically they come from the single wing, but these spread teams are essentially running formations Florida ran with Tebow. The split back with a sniffer look was a staple of Florida's offense in 2008, and those Florida teams was the first time I saw this formation. That's around the time I started using it, and we even named it Gator Right/Left because that's who I borrowed it from.
If everyone likes this offense you should go check out GSU's games from 2014 and 2015, or even watch 2008 Florida vs Florida State, and you'll see what Meyer and Tebow did with this formation. They ran more power-read/counter-read (front-side reads). Anyway, I love this video coach because it's very similar to the offense we run, and we've had a ton of success with it. I'm glad you enjoyed it enough to make a video over it.
Your last five minutes of the video made the long watch worth it. Thank you very much Sir.
Just told my son to take a look at what you are breaking down. We run the same exact thing but we have midline, power and power read (and some other stuff). Simple quick game stuff and rpo the inverts. Everything you said about the triple game and RPO's is what I've been preaching for some time. Good breakdown here.
Thanks, people still do not think its possible to do it all well but I'm intrigued by it.
KBLUA How successful have you been?
Coach, do you ever have problems reading the midline from the gun? Do you free release the 3' or bang him a little? Also, do you ever read a 2 or 2I?
As long as the running backs path is proper midline should not be an issue. I think the gun allows you to read a 2 or 2i
Dale Myers, shoot me an email and I'll give you what we do including adjustments.
d12uic@ail.com
Excellent video. I've been intrigued by this offense since I watched them play UofA last year during bowl season. Thanks for the upload, coach!
Good stuff and it sort of solidified my thought process. Interestingly, by the end of the year, my favorite and most productive formation was that split back with a slot (just wider than the sniffer). Very similar to what New Mexico does.... I used to be an under center triple option guy, but migrated to the gun a few years ago. I recently took over a struggling program and didn't have a guy that could execute the gun option run game (or I did a poor job of coaching it). I do have a rising junior that saw some time later in the year. He looked pretty good and should be my guy moving forward. I'll have to do a better job of coaching it up though.. He is a short guy, but a home run threat at qb. He can throw, just has problems finding windows (only 5'6"). I think that he probably could execute most of those passing concepts even if we move the pocket. We run most of what you mentioned in regards to the passing game except Mesh. Like I said, this solidifies my thought process. Glad to be able to listen and share. Last point, maybe I'm just selfish, could there be a future video about maximizing the passing game with shorter qb's? Great stuff Coach. Keep it up.
I can do something on using shorter QBS, mine are usually 5'10 or 5'11!!!!
This would be excellent, I agree. I coach in the UK and we never have the luxury of any Big Ben's at QB! In fact we have a guy who is having to drop down the roster as despite having the mechanics down in training, can't translate that into a game situation as he simply gets lost back there.
would also appreciate this. Thanks for the nice videos!
+Thomas MacPherson Would also appreciate this. I have a QB who is shorter than 'normal'. Thanks for the nice videos in the first place!
I'll do it soon
Great video once again coach. I have a question for you. In regards to the HS passing game how many pass plays would you have in your offense. Don't want to over do it in regarding plays but I don't want to have to little in the offense. If I could get your opinion on the matter that would be great. Thanks
Great stuff Coach!
where can I find out more about this offense
Go to Watch ESPN and search replays of football and find New Mexico games. I do all my research that way or on You Tube or Noon Kick.
I am just over 7 minutes into this video and two things: 1) that video converter trial message which keeps showing on-screen is annoying, and 2) just say regardless.
Appreciate it
As a die hard Husker fan, I can really appreciate your "...eye candy and wrinkles..." statement because when Tom Osborne was the head coach at Nebraska, that was exactly what he did. For example, he'd have a base play such as 11/19 Sprint Option, but he could block it 6 different ways to give the defense tons of different looks. It was the same (by my admittedly non-insider non-coach analysis) 15 basic running plays. However, with each play being able to be blocked 6 different ways, out of practically any formation, and personnel grouping, it was practically unstoppable. Combine that with the intensity and physicality those Nebraska teams played with and the Huskers were practically unstoppable. Aside from the zone read elements, schematically, New Mexico's offense appears to use many of the same concepts Tom Osborne did. Gawd, I love football and could talk X's abd O's all day. Great stuff so far Coach.
All option theories just a different style. I love Tommy Frazier
No worries coach, it's distracting but the content is worth it.
Thanks
love it love old school option coach lobos coach Davie surprise some folks with their approach as well!!!!great vid!!!😎😎😎😎👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆
Very effective...all I need is dual- threat stud👍
We all do
Great video coach! The only thing I would consider changing is the pass concepts. I think I would go with
1. 4 verticals
2. Flood (#1 runs fade, #2 runs 10 yard out, #3 runs flat)
3. Deep cross
4. Snag
The reason I say that is because I think those concepts can be run both as a five step drop and as play action off of the base runs.
Question: what is how is the Flood concept your describe different from the sail? Is it because #2 running the out instead of the flat?
Coach Mac great stuff as alway!! I think this is the best offense in the country, they just don't have players..
If they could throw the ball I would agree 100%
And sorry to deluge you with comments, but (again to my non-coach eyes) Coach Frost at Nebraska in his uptempo spread seems to run many of these concepts as well. Makes sense seeing as how Frost played QB at Nebraska under Tom Osborne. Husker Football 💪🏈🌽📈
This is what Scott Frost needs to be running the New Mexico option offense.
It was good for awhile
Another awesome video, very well said at the end of your video. Keep up the awesome job coach.
Not a great explanation of triple option. There is a much easier count system to use for who the dive and pitch key is. Also would never try to throw in spread RPO concepts bc it’s totally different.
This offense is much closer to flexbone, I believe this coach is a spread guy by the way he explains it. If anyone has questions about how to simplify everything let me know
Agree to disagree. People have way better systems to teach option play, but RPOS are double option football by nature. Different mindset maybe
I've been checking out triple option quite a bit lately. Very informative. Although I am a bigger fan of the Double Dive these days.
It’s all good, several ways to score points
hey coach, quick question...recently applied to be a head coach at a h.s. and i'm trying to set up my program..and was wondering if you could give a couple pointers to started
maybe where i can start as far as setting up a playbook...(spread offense)
always been in an assistant role offense and defense
Build culture, weight room, and work ethic first. Plays are overrated sometimes
Once again great info Coach I appreciate it...!
Thanks Coach
Great footage coach
Thank You