FIXING DEHYA: Discussing Dehya's Issues & Possible Buffs, Changes | Genshin Impact 3.5

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  • @meowmeowmeow4410
    @meowmeowmeow4410 Год назад +1102

    The powerpoint and the cardigan ARE GIVING TEACHER VIBES

    • @SevyPlays
      @SevyPlays  Год назад +246

      👩‍🏫👩‍🏫👩‍🏫

    • @charibertthewhimsicalking88
      @charibertthewhimsicalking88 Год назад +122

      Dont forget to note everything she said, it might appear in genshin test next week.

    • @meowmeowmeow4410
      @meowmeowmeow4410 Год назад +29

      @@charibertthewhimsicalking88 youre so right about that 😔

    • @justsomeguywithnoeyes7303
      @justsomeguywithnoeyes7303 Год назад +7

      @@SevyPlays btw one thing that i saw in a video (forgot which one), is that dehya's burst seems to end early when she hits a wall like some fence or something. I cant confirm if thats true or not

    • @RADZIO895
      @RADZIO895 Год назад +18

      How to trick your parents you're studying and not watching genshin content

  • @starryskies9655
    @starryskies9655 Год назад +1052

    There’s just so many unique problems with Dehya, it almost feels like she was an experimental character, they chucked a bunch of features on her and wanted to see what stuck.

    • @randomyt3420
      @randomyt3420 Год назад

      Dehya is bad just because of her skin color, the Chinese are very racist, that is well known.

    • @hunyo2801
      @hunyo2801 Год назад +84

      She reminds me of how Musicians make an experimental album, it's either gonna be a hit or miss or it will grow on you in the future. This is so random but that's how I see it. I hope she gets better team in the future. 🤞

    • @simonmaduxx6777
      @simonmaduxx6777 Год назад +21

      i loved her demo, a great character and fun to play
      without a single reason to use/build her

    • @acesword9850
      @acesword9850 Год назад +25

      (Long message ahead, sorry)
      I dont think that experimental characters are bad. Kuki definitely felt that way with her sacrificing health to heal + elemental mastery scaling and all. Ofcourse this makes more sense now that Dendro was introduced. But my biggest issue with Dehya being experimental is that she feels like she doesn't fulfill any real niches, doesn't do anything really uniquely that other characters dont fill out and her numbers are lower than that of 4stars in many ways, thats my biggest issue.

    • @simonmaduxx6777
      @simonmaduxx6777 Год назад +7

      @@acesword9850 kuki was never bad. Neil was confusion of over how to meld her with other characters, but I never had that problem. Wrap that lightning around a dendro or especially a pyro character, and you are off to the races.
      Nothing close to this situation with a mediocre character

  • @katacutie
    @katacutie Год назад +370

    I love the idea of her dishing out the damage she takes back to the enemy. I feel like it fits with how we've seen her fight in the story: recklessly and with little consideration of herself, but with a lot of impact. And that would truly be unique.

    • @DeeonleeCobb373
      @DeeonleeCobb373 Год назад +20

      This would have opened up a new playstyle and line of characters.

    • @agzane268
      @agzane268 Год назад +18

      with a lot of... GENSHIN IMPACT???

    • @novi_key
      @novi_key Год назад

      ​@@agzane268 you beat me to it

    • @jadecoolness101
      @jadecoolness101 Год назад +1

      It would definitely give more of a benefit for your higher HP characters like... idk, Ayato? Those tankier characters that can take a beating comfortably.
      More damage taken, more damage done. Pop out Dehya and destroy

  • @runex4438
    @runex4438 Год назад +178

    The sad thing is there really are a lot of ways to make her okay. No one is expecting her to be the next Hu Tao all people want is a reasonable 5 star character

    • @UserUserUserUserUserUserUserUs
      @UserUserUserUserUserUserUserUs Год назад +18

      yeah cuz she has such a good design and story.

    • @theunhingedgamer3762
      @theunhingedgamer3762 Год назад

      all people wanted her to be was another generic character that deals stupid amounts of damage so that they could coat Spiral Abyss in more of their sweat
      I won't deny that a rework would do her good but from what I've seen the toxicity among the meta slaves honestly outweighs the issues with Dehya entirely given by their logic since she doesn't deal millions of damage she's just plain bad

    • @ealexjrdn1
      @ealexjrdn1 Год назад +2

      ​@@theunhingedgamer3762 two points to this.
      1. Her damage capabilities are a legitimate point of complaint when her personal artifact set, signature weapon, and majority of her constellations are centered around it. It IS a focus in her kit, and it is inadequate.
      2. The majority of the complaints about dehya are that she doesn't perform efficiently in even her defensive capabilities. EVERY defensive utility option (healer, shielder, and even other damage mitigatiors) is a better pick to build or slot in a team than her, in near every circumstance (melt ganyu/nahida being the exception and even that is hinky); having better uptime and better team synergy across the board.

  • @sonofdeleniel007
    @sonofdeleniel007 Год назад +211

    They missed a perfect opportunity to have a revenge DPS.
    If they had just added one of these two lines to her A4 passive:
    "In addition, the damage of Dehya's Molten Inferno and Leonine Bite are increased by 2% for every 1% HP she is missing"
    Or
    "In addition, Dehya gains a bonus to her ATK equal to 1.8% of her missing HP"
    She'd be much stronger. Maybe not fixed, but so much easier to consider.

    • @wakuwakuwaiwai
      @wakuwakuwaiwai Год назад +6

      her passive self heal may make this difficult to manage

    • @zoramarslink5788
      @zoramarslink5788 Год назад +21

      @@wakuwakuwaiwai Maybe have it be based on pre-mitigated damage taken during her skill?

    • @zeromailss
      @zeromailss Год назад +14

      instead of missing damage from max HP, just increase damage dealt based on damage taken based on % HP and cap like at 50-70% of total HP of damage
      This way she can heal no problem, the calculation is just the total damage taken when her skill is up and her burst will deal more damage just like how Raiden burst damage is increased based on her teammate burst usage instead of Hu Tao mechanic where she become stronger at 50% or lower HP. Like honestly even if Dehya deal twice the damage she currently dealt she will still be mid so I hope it will be like 3-4% more damage on her burst every 1% damage of her hp taken (max 50% HP aka 150-200% dmg buff) which would be fair cuz outside of abyss a lot of enemies don't deal that much anyway making proccing this effect difficult but if you do somehow manage to do that the result should be worth it. Wanderer for example get 200% burst damage bonus from his C2 if you can trigger it yet it is still not broken

    • @sonofdeleniel007
      @sonofdeleniel007 Год назад

      @@wakuwakuwaiwai Did the numbers at the 70% threshold (which is Bennett's cutoff), the 1st proposition is a 36% damage increase, while the 2nd proposition is lower but allows for streamlining her stats even further by allowing you to just flock off with ATK subs.

    • @sonofdeleniel007
      @sonofdeleniel007 Год назад

      @@zeromailss Oh yeah, absolutely. I wasn't going for the Zhongli fix of taking him from meh to meta, I was just thinking about how to incorporate the redirect mechanic into skill expression, which would make her *NOT TERRIBLE*.
      That's my problem. Her kit's disjointed. If we added cohesiveness into her base kit with a passive like this, it would make her so much more "playable".

  • @juicyjabzh9207
    @juicyjabzh9207 Год назад +781

    I love the idea of her doing more dmg based on the damage she takes

    • @gravitydazed8859
      @gravitydazed8859 Год назад +109

      Literally, let others do damage in the field, they get hit, swap and she then does massive damage with her burst. Would've been so cool what were mihoyo thinking?

    • @mosbby4135
      @mosbby4135 Год назад +44

      That also works great with Burning and Burgeon(both deal self damage)

    • @NTDang
      @NTDang Год назад +1

      So Hu Tao ?

    • @mosbby4135
      @mosbby4135 Год назад +35

      @@NTDang Kinda? But without a defensive teammates, Hutao can't take damage, while Dehya is the defensive one.

    • @sirarietichee7260
      @sirarietichee7260 Год назад +13

      Seriously, let berserker dehya be a thing

  • @miguerys9503
    @miguerys9503 Год назад +547

    Remember all, THIS IS NOT ONLY A DEHYA PROBLEM. Designing lackluster kits to be solved with constellation has been seen in other 4* characters and Dehya is the proof that they want to do that with ALL characters, so even if you're not interested in Dehya, have in mind that if we don't push against this trend your future favorite character will be like this too.
    For me "dealing with it" is not an option, either they fix her, or I'm not reinstalling the game.

    • @rocketcider7761
      @rocketcider7761 Год назад +51

      Hoyo has favorites and cleary Dehya wasn't part of that select list. Alhathium is really damn good at C0 and he was just a patch ago. Not sure why the consistency is lacking when it comes to making functionnig kits, but at the same time not every character can be good.

    • @miguerys9503
      @miguerys9503 Год назад +155

      @@rocketcider7761 Not every character can be OP, but every character has to be balanced.

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret Год назад +7

      Gotta make that money 😂

    • @rocketcider7761
      @rocketcider7761 Год назад +12

      @@miguerys9503 That's what I'd hope they do, but they fail everytime lol

    • @regalseagull
      @regalseagull Год назад +32

      Are you a regularly spending whale ? If not, you not reinstalling will have no effect on Hoyoverse, they'll just lose a bit of publicity. What need to do is another Zhongli situation, "Attack on Google Classroom Part 2: Electric Boogaloo"

  • @1Henrink
    @1Henrink Год назад +144

    I find it weird how she is the only main character from Sumeru that really doesn't seem connected to Dendro reactions. When we met her I was sure she would be a buff to burning.

    • @Jetsetlemming
      @Jetsetlemming Год назад +10

      She sort of is (you can now make burning teams without having to worry about your pyro source's ER, you basically just treat Dehya like a smarter Gouba), but it's a pretty niche use and exactly the sort of thing you expect from a 4*, not the most anticipated non-archon 5* since Yelan.

    • @1Henrink
      @1Henrink Год назад +10

      @@Jetsetlemming , but there is a problem, to be consistent on the burning she needs Nihida. Ok, Nilou needs her too, but Nilou made a terrible reaction viable. Burning it's still not viable, even with Dehya (even going full EM)

    • @maiseree1511
      @maiseree1511 Год назад

      @@Jetsetlemming That's not really true, though I guess that's not your point. Cyno had more pre-release hype than Dehya by virtue of him being a travail trailer character and a character in the manga. Alhaitham also had more pre-release hype due to him being assumed as Nahida's familiar, and him being dubbed as Sumeru's Zhongli

    • @purr1463
      @purr1463 Год назад

      She’s unique! I’m glad she wasn’t just oriented for one reaction like Nilou although baizhu is coming and he’s buffing burning to the moon so who knows.

    • @aureliodecanton9970
      @aureliodecanton9970 Год назад +1

      I've seen CN players using Dehya/Nahida/Sucrose or Kazuha/a healer (could be Kuki or Jean etc) for burning team. The damage doesn't look bad actually.

  • @Zajef77
    @Zajef77 Год назад +105

    Dehya truly is one of the characters of all time

  • @OlexiVR
    @OlexiVR Год назад +229

    the biggest issue with her being a damage sponge is that there are characters that mitigate or neglect a part of damage, but don't receive it later. Like Xinqiu and characters that decrease the damage of enemies around, like Beidou

    • @Blizandrio
      @Blizandrio Год назад +12

      The thing is that Dehya actually tanks more than them tho. She not only gives dmg reduction to the active character inside her field but she also mitigates 60% of the dmg she takes. Essentially she sponges the dmg through 2 filters basically. People have the misconception that she only just takes half the dmg of the team when that isn’t true at all. She has issues but her tanky abilities are not one of them.

    • @fartyfazbear1932
      @fartyfazbear1932 Год назад +59

      @@Blizandrio While Xingqiu reduces dmg but half and instead of taking 60% of it he deletes it

    • @sorashiro7611
      @sorashiro7611 Год назад +29

      ​@@Blizandrio yeah but she provides no healing for the team ANDDD her interruption res is not 100%

    • @Blizandrio
      @Blizandrio Год назад +5

      @@fartyfazbear1932 Babes, characters that take dmg in Dehya’s field take half the dmg. That alone works just the same as Beidou’s and Xingqiu’s dmg reduction. the other half of the DMG goes through a Filter that takes off 40% of that dmg and the remaining 60% hits Dehya over time. Then she heals it back. She Statistically does more than Xingqiu’s protective swords. Y’all sound like parrots.

    • @karashuun1083
      @karashuun1083 Год назад +55

      ​@@Blizandrio Let me see...
      Xingqiu has no area limitation. Xingqiu has better duration. Xingqiu neutralize the 50% damage (no need for another damage reduction or healing mechanic). Xingqiu heals your on field character.

  • @spicelordx
    @spicelordx Год назад +92

    The standard banner question is really one of the nastiest things about her release. Assuming precedent holds and she doesn't get another focus banner, Dehya fans are strangled in both directions: if you pull now, you get a crappy experimental character, but if in the future she is somehow powerful, those who skipped will not have a reliable way to get her or constellations. It really looks like they randomly put a 2nd pyro claymore on standard just to strangle Dehya fans specifically

    • @zartoru_
      @zartoru_ Год назад +7

      About that, it seems that she should have been a limited character earlier on, but given her beta took place during lunar new year, most of hyv employees were in vacations, when they got back dehya had way to much issues in her kit to be fixed before her release, so they just throwed her in standard banner as a form of damage control
      If this is really the case they could just have said the truth, recognizing there was problems on their side and that they're working to improve her for next patch. I don't think people would be that mad about it, them recognizing errors on their side and communicating about it would've been a good point for their image I think

    • @Ayzev
      @Ayzev Год назад +3

      ​@@zartoru_ Unfortunately corporations are adamant about staying out of touch with their customers outside of marketing

    • @leegunring
      @leegunring Год назад

      I think this is an experiment, and they must want to know from big data how players face this dilemma.

    • @SEELE-1946
      @SEELE-1946 Год назад

      Spoiler
      She is getting an artifact set that is specifically tailored towards her in 3.6. i am facing the same dilemma on whether I should pull or not. Even if I did she isn't that good at C0 and needs C1.

    • @zartoru_
      @zartoru_ Год назад +1

      @@SEELE-1946 The artifact set you're talking about is still worse than emblem, it gives her more damage but you loose so much er you will struggle a lot to get her burst resulting in a damage loss

  • @audreywilliams1658
    @audreywilliams1658 Год назад +491

    Honestly I feel like they 100% wanted her to be bad. They have a whole team on these things

    • @rayyanchile8728
      @rayyanchile8728 Год назад +88

      yeah i feel like it was intentional that they did this , maybe cuz there are alot of characters and they just wanted to make a janky standard character so they dont bother rerunning her lol , although they could just introduce triple banners…💀

    • @nikhileshsingh8706
      @nikhileshsingh8706 Год назад +90

      They 100% made her the way she is, because they wanted to add her to the standard banner. There's an upcoming geo girl character that is rumoured to be added to the standard banner as well, i can bet if that's true, she will be even worse than Dehya. They 100% know what they are doing....... diluting the standard banner because all characters there are usable, even Qiqi has more utility than Dehya.

    • @yuzzo92
      @yuzzo92 Год назад +22

      i honestly feel the very opposite. When you think about it, this game is designed and implemented as a mobile-first title. The menus, the interactions, the very kit designs are built to work from mobile the best way they can. Of course, not all donuts come with a hole and there are examples where the UX of something turned out bad anyways, but they're really the exceptions.
      Now, when you see dehya's kit, she looks like the most cursed, annoying as fuck thing to use on a mobile device, with touch controls. The idea itself of locking her into a barrage of attacks that supposedly goes faster if you tap auto attacks (tapping repeatedly is super easy to do on a mouse and on a controller, but it's to say the least ANNOYING to do on a touchscreen) feels like it was never designed with a good thought to begin with.
      this is why i personally don't believe in the "willing self-sabotage" theory. I can't think of any executive that would come out and think this that "testing the waters of self-sabotage" is a good idea, even if they are super wealthy economically speaking, i find it very hard to believe.

    • @FoundaPeanut
      @FoundaPeanut Год назад +35

      @@yuzzo92 The three teenagers in my house hate playing this game on mobile, they only play the game on PC.
      The game plays better on PC, even little teenagers know it...
      They say the UI is better on PC, the combat is smoother, and the lag issues are nonexistent.
      The game is made on PC, using Unity, so naturally it runs better on PC.
      and everyone knows it...

    • @syanreeze253
      @syanreeze253 Год назад +30

      Yeah, when they design a character, they prioritize in fulfilling the expectations of CN community. So that's why they made her bad because they know CN players ain't a big fan of characters with extra melanin. She just exist to represent another character from Sumeru and it turns out the Global player expected her to be a 5-star character so they just made her lazily and throw her into a standard banner.

  • @charlesboudreau5350
    @charlesboudreau5350 Год назад +107

    People mostly speak about Yelan and Xinqiu not working with her burst and while they both are the best hydro supports for the role, for me the real tragedy is that not even Candace does. What a wasted opportunity for both characters.

    • @TA-cz5xy
      @TA-cz5xy Год назад +19

      Candace works a small amount better than those two but I'm with you , I was really hoping they'd work together given their relationship in game. SAD

    • @Hindi-si-rian
      @Hindi-si-rian Год назад +2

      the reason they dont work with her, is because her burst is an actual burst (not like pyro infusion) which doesn’t proc yelan and xq burst

  • @MACHEW_WingDestiny
    @MACHEW_WingDestiny Год назад +21

    If both Zyox and Sevy are saying Dehya is a problem, then she really is.

  • @henriqueabreu9706
    @henriqueabreu9706 Год назад +170

    For me, some things that would help a lot Dehya are:
    • Make her skill activate a coordinate attack once every 1s, like Thomas's Burst. That 2.5s is extremely awful and doesn't help at all (looks like she's not that great for reactions huh, miHoYo?)
    • Make her burst not being interrupted. Lock her jump button in Burst Mode, make her immune to Freeze, idk man, just don't keep her Burst so easy to break
    • Change her burst to normal attacks so she'll be compatible with Yelan/Xingqiu. Unless they're playing to release a Hydro that is compatible with Dehya, Vape Dehya is a complete joke...
    It hurts me, since I'm not a heavy meta player and I roll for the characters I really like. I don't have many 5★ because of that, but most of them, including Cyno, works. Dehya doesn't work at C0, sadly. I was so excited for her...

    • @dylanfallon6720
      @dylanfallon6720 Год назад +30

      Going from 2.5s to 1s would be like the best buff for her. I just want her to be viable for Burgeon teams so much...

    • @chadintraining308
      @chadintraining308 Год назад +14

      Also make her resistance to interruption longer and can't be cancelled while casting

    • @migueltellosanz4556
      @migueltellosanz4556 Год назад +7

      ​@@dylanfallon6720 you Will have a problema with tall enemies jajaja

    • @sy8099
      @sy8099 Год назад +6

      Also increase her burst damage based of the mitigation damage she receive

    • @jesuisradmusic
      @jesuisradmusic Год назад +18

      I agree with this, poor damage multipliers are ok if the character has high elemental application and reaction potential. Giving Dehya neither is like, wait wut?

  • @Opti-Miser
    @Opti-Miser Год назад +25

    They should have made her burst auto target fuction like Itto's charge attacks! Itto still auto targets but you can influence the direction he swings to help consolidate AOE and make sure youre attacking the target you want to attack. There is no good reason for Dehya's burst to not allow for the same

  • @Mr_Looc
    @Mr_Looc Год назад +83

    Dehya is the reason I kept playing Genshin Impact, so it's baffling she was given this kit. These kind of vids of "possible fixes" are fun but I've already made peace with knowing she will not be fixed or buffed in any way.

    • @MeowEste
      @MeowEste Год назад +3

      Anyway Genshin is not so hard of a game, so Dehya is still in most of my teams. The only place where she is really lacking is 12 floor of Abyss but that's all

    • @pyronado4320
      @pyronado4320 Год назад +27

      @@MeowEste not a direct comparison in any way not even close but imagine being a millionaire whose son is born half paralyzed and you're desperate, only for your neighbours to say the child has enough wealth to live his full life sitting anyway. Why bother

    • @undeniablySomeGuy
      @undeniablySomeGuy Год назад +12

      @@MeowEste That’s not even true. She is absolutely pathetic against weekly bosses if you want to deal her real damage and not afk. She feels terrible in overworld because you never have enough energy to burst, and when you do burst, it barely kills a mitachurl and doesn’t even dent a ruin enemy.

    • @ForeverDegenerate
      @ForeverDegenerate Год назад +6

      @@undeniablySomeGuy Then... don't use her as a Main DPS. I don't. I have her in my Thoma Slot for my Burgeon Team and she works just fine. Just because you WANT her to be a Main DPS doesn't mean she IS a Main DPS. And if you try to use her as a Main DPS and she fails, that's a you problem, not a Dehya problem. That being said, there's a LOT wrong with her and she, desperately, NEEDS to be overhauled. However, that doesn't mean she's completely useless.

    • @vinniegret4841
      @vinniegret4841 Год назад +1

      ​@@ForeverDegenerate Being able to kil la mitachurl is not even a carry privilege. LET HER WORK WITH ANYTHING OMFG

  • @vesaryn
    @vesaryn Год назад +19

    I like the idea of her as a super tanky support that can go berserk when she ults. It fits in with her bodyguard that unleashes pain when her friends are threatened vibe. Turning damage done to her/anyone protected by her skill into a boost to her ult is also very flavorful and thematic. Kind of like a tanky, toned down pyro Raiden Shogun.

  • @Lucas-rh1ey
    @Lucas-rh1ey Год назад +256

    I CAN FIX HER

  • @NiramBG
    @NiramBG Год назад +13

    This is exactly the type of video every CC should be making rn. Everyone is frustrated with Dehya's state, but complaining alone will not help. We need to offer constructive criticism so that HYV understands what went wrong and with the suggestions maybe they'll implement something faster.

    • @Ayzev
      @Ayzev Год назад +2

      "Faster", as if they intend to implement anything at all. We are at conflict with their interests here. Although we can only guess what those actually are.

  • @ninja_nix2607
    @ninja_nix2607 Год назад +49

    Thanks Sevy for your support on taking stand for fixing Dehya. Making these videos will gives more impact on Hoyoverse. Hope they listens to our pain.

  • @kageokami99
    @kageokami99 Год назад +39

    I love the idea of taking the damage she incurrs turning in into her own personal damage. I'd give her a passive rage/berserker state that triggers after she takes a certain amount of damage (not just for herself but her team as well) that increases her damage output or augments her skill and burst for a duration as well as granting her lifesteal to increase her tankiness and survivability further. The healing she gets from attacking wouldnt be too crazy but it'd be enough for her to reliably keep her on the field. I really wanna give players the feel that she's an absolute bruiser who doesn't hesitate to jump right into a battle when she feels the need to arises.

    • @jptq39721
      @jptq39721 Год назад +5

      It would also make you actually *play* different with Dehya instead of a shielder. You would want to intentionally not dodge some attacks so you could build up Dehya's damage. Try to maximize the amount of damage you take before using her burst, a risk-reward style of play.

    • @kageokami99
      @kageokami99 Год назад +5

      @@jptq39721 Exactly, let her be damage sponge for your team and she'll get massive payoffs with her increased damage and self heal.

    • @migueltellosanz4556
      @migueltellosanz4556 Год назад

      Well right now if you are jumping you are the whose hesitating

    • @sorashiro7611
      @sorashiro7611 Год назад

      ​@@migueltellosanz4556 huh

    • @darylewalker6862
      @darylewalker6862 Год назад +2

      Using damage taken as revenge fuel is common for this archetype. It’s boggling that Redmane’s Blood is a detriment, not aiding anywhere down the line.

  • @_black_bird
    @_black_bird Год назад +56

    I really appreciate that you're doing this, I think it's the first time I'm seeing a content creator straight up putting the effort of making a video about how we need buffs for a character, and also provide options for it, it really says a lot about how weak Dehya is, cause not even Zhongli had this effect on the community, at least not to this point

    • @tsunohansuu
      @tsunohansuu Год назад +6

      Genuine question: I'm guessing you are not, by any chance, a CN player or someone who follows CN genshin community closely?
      Because Zhongli absolutely got demaciated. Even more than Dehya, but maybe it was so local and so early into the game's lifespan that international genshin didn't have creators like Sevy yet.
      To emphasize the backlash back then, I havent heard news of anyone threatening to sue hoyoverse for Dehya, like they did with Zhongli.

    • @Ayzev
      @Ayzev Год назад

      ​@@tsunohansuu What basis for a lawsuit was there though? That sounds too silly to be something HoYo would feel threatened by.

    • @tsunohansuu
      @tsunohansuu Год назад +2

      @@Ayzev for zl, i heard it was something like defamation (because he was the face of china etc.,) and/or false advertisement. I don't know if it ever got through, probably didn't, but it was the only moment mihoyo ever got shaken.
      For Dehya, you're right, there's no basis. We can accuse Hyv for colorism all we want for making Dehya weak, but at the end of the day that's just how they roll, there's no legit proof of that. It sucks, but what happens to Dehya is just a rehash of Zhongli's case, minus the fixed part. I'm glad though if this makes people more aware of hyv's questionable practices. It's just not a new level of severity like OP pointed out.

  • @Leothemoose
    @Leothemoose Год назад +23

    If even Sevy made a video about this, then Hoyoverse needs to give us something. They'll probably sell us these solutions as either artifact sets or characters that buff others based on damage taken or something.

    • @Ayzev
      @Ayzev Год назад

      Next update we are already getting a burst dmg per stack arti set that stacks from dmg taken and works off-field. But it's numerically at best a sidegrade Emblem

  • @meowforheals
    @meowforheals Год назад +22

    finally a popular content creator that adressed this topic

  • @rosalina2938
    @rosalina2938 Год назад +51

    She probably could be fixed by have her skill infuse her attack with pyro until you explode it and make her scale more with her upgrade statt. She feels like a 4star around amber level.

    • @sorashiro7611
      @sorashiro7611 Год назад +7

      Amber has one niche team where SHE is required
      And that's hu-tao-xq-kazu-amber
      Granted i think she needs c6 but still

    • @Boricosa
      @Boricosa Год назад

      ​@@sorashiro7611 she needs c6+elegy

    • @sorashiro7611
      @sorashiro7611 Год назад

      @@Boricosa not rlly
      Since u can use falcon on kazu and just fav on amber

    • @raurisaurus5057
      @raurisaurus5057 Год назад +8

      Amber is similar to Dehya in the fact that she has practically no necessary teams, however Amber provides more to her teams than Dehya does.
      Amber should always be considered at C6. It's been available for over a year just from starglitter.
      Elegy of the end (one of the best support weapons) is ambers best bow for supportive capabilities.
      Amber with C6 and Elegy and noblesse is right up there with Bennet. (I'm not sure who is stronger since nobody has made a proper video comparison). But for the comparisons I have seen, they are extremely close.
      Amber with C2 is a really good Sub DPS with Baron bunnies, whilst also providing quite a bit of energy.
      Ambers burst is the best shield shredder in-game.
      Amber also has 100% uptime on her buffs. Making her an effective support Sub DPS.
      Melt Amber and Burgeon Amber teams are actually really good currently. (those are without her being designed as a support, and instead she is the main carry). They've cleared abyss in under a minute, and yes Amber is the one doing the most damage.
      Dehya doesn't have any teams she excels at, let alone all teams including dehya either have something better, or dehya isnt doing the most in those teams (mono pyro dehya is built around making dehya the main carry, yet she doesn't do the most damage in that team).
      Dehya has no niches except the weird ocean Hued clam afk meme, and being a melt proccer for Ganyu (which requires burning and Nahida if I'm not mistaken).
      Amber has more niches, things she specializes in, and she isn't the worst option in most of her special roles. She's actually pretty damn good. She's also the only character to quad vape/quad melt Xingquis skill and Chongyuns burst solo.

  • @KurenIntoHoYoFun
    @KurenIntoHoYoFun Год назад +26

    Sevy has entered the teacher arc.

  • @redcloud7447
    @redcloud7447 Год назад +34

    Thank you for making this video Sevy. I love these suggestions and would have hoped to have gotten even just one of them in the game.
    It’s a true shame that Hoyoverse will most likely completely ignore our complaints and criticisms as they’re just too comfortable and making too much to care if one of their characters tanks.

    • @Sinjade
      @Sinjade Год назад +2

      @Ranger!!! The game is stupid easy, no need to improve her. As she is, with the right comp, she clears all content. People keep missing the point of what this game really is. If there was true end game content then I would say Dehya current iteration would be an issue, but it's not so there is no need. She has a great design and is actually somewhat fun enough to play. Most of this game is just running around the world and killing random mobs, which one does not need Yelan level dmg to do. This community needs to come to realization that Hoyo knows this and will do enough to keep things moving along. The crying really needs to stop for as history has shown it never pans out, well expect Zhongli but that was a different time and towards the start of the game.

  • @IAmAaronEdwards
    @IAmAaronEdwards Год назад +8

    14:24 I believe it would be great if in her short burst she deals back the damage she took plus some or the stacking idea where, depending on how much damage she took add so many stacks per thousand damage or something but I like the fact that it’s short, because if it is only returning damage, received while off field. If you made it longer, there wouldn’t be enough time to stack up. The damage. It’s kind of like a reverse eula where Eula has to be on the field to stack up multipliers it would be cool to see dehya stack up multipliers off field. just put a timer on the stacks like 20 seconds so you can’t stack infinite stacks before you switch and deal damage. It would encourage more Face tanking. And just make all her Skillings HP based

  • @rydia-yg9vv
    @rydia-yg9vv Год назад +6

    I would like to see an added limiter of what happens when Dehya’s HP reaches a certain low amount; an example would be an AOE explosion or pyro explosion that staggers mobs giving her breathing room.
    She redirects the hits to herself but she knows her limits so it would fit along with her healing abilities

  • @mayarosenberg1813
    @mayarosenberg1813 Год назад +8

    The interesting thing about putting her on standard is that guarantees that there will be a persistent group of people receiving Dehya- either people who wanted her previously, or those who did not. She can't be swept under the rug, because people are going to keep pulling her. Genshin's never going to live this down, and we're never going to forget.
    What's a better way to spur people away from gacha than making them love a character that's basically unplayable? And constantly remind them of the time they were excited for this character, and then Hoyoverse dropped the ball?

  • @M1K3Editz
    @M1K3Editz Год назад +5

    Thank you for making a video on this, she was one of my most excited character since Sumeru released and her kit is very underwhelming and her gameplay could be so much more fun with some small optimizations, bugfixes and buffs.

  • @andrewethan8012
    @andrewethan8012 Год назад +12

    I really like your explanations and discussions. You kept them simple and cohesive. I really want to see Hoyoverse NOT getting way with Deyha’s poor kit design, however, we all know that’s nothing will be dressed. Creating a future artifact will not help her shortcomings. Well done Sevy 👍

  • @Yoshimitsuzero
    @Yoshimitsuzero Год назад +7

    " If it isn't broken.... make it better"
    -Cyno

  • @cleodrinkstea
    @cleodrinkstea Год назад +3

    omg the canva presentation is really giving teacher vibes~~

  • @CloudXStrife136
    @CloudXStrife136 Год назад +9

    Thank you Sevy. Happy channel anniversary!
    I wanna say i appreciate you immensely for making this video on Dehya. She was really important for a lot of us, and obviously were disappointed how hoyo did her dirty.
    Seeing content creators helping in our efforts, even if just discussing it like this means a lot. ❤️💙
    Also lol, the teacher powerpoint/college lecture vibe

  • @ashtro5545
    @ashtro5545 Год назад +23

    The only thing I want in her kit is very simple
    Fix the bugs (must and SHOULD be done)
    Give her higher multipliers.
    Her kit burst every thing is unique. She may be like shenhe who will shine only in mono Pyro. Just give her higher multipliers.

    • @ravissary79
      @ravissary79 Год назад +2

      If so she should have had unique Pyro debuffs on targets allowing others to hit harder, or a buff to dendro reactions, like allowing burning to stack or more burgeon cores to effect more targets, etc.

  • @urulokigaming3229
    @urulokigaming3229 Год назад +2

    Great presentation! Only thing I think could be missing is Constellation ideas to replace the ones that should already be built into her kit.

  • @VoxAetherium
    @VoxAetherium Год назад +33

    Classic Mihoyo moves: They give you the problem and then sell you the solution 😂 I was so excited for her, thinking that she'll be paired with Candace .The only good thing I can even think on her kit is her interruption resistance ffs
    P.S. Guys you know what to do when the survey comes

    • @JackieBlade1
      @JackieBlade1 Год назад +2

      I have already seen almost everything that was voiced in this, voiced them in support.

    • @DefinitelyNotAFerret
      @DefinitelyNotAFerret Год назад +4

      Do they actually care about the surveys from outside CN? 😂

    • @RejectedInch
      @RejectedInch Год назад +2

      @@DefinitelyNotAFerret nope.

  • @ZeeCH_Music
    @ZeeCH_Music Год назад +1

    Things I want for her. [C0]
    > Reduced Skill CD a bit
    > Reduced energy needed for Burst
    > Burst when pressed it will skip the Flame-mane Fist and instead canceling the burst.. it will perform to the next move which is Incineration Dive.
    > Since her highlight skill is resistance to interruption , I want her to activate a buff when she gets damage while interruption is still active.
    > Rework her Skill/Burst damage [ATK + MAX HP] to Just [MAX HP] , [MAX HP] for mitigation / resistance to interruption.. this is really weird because we don't even have artifact that has double stats on a single option. focusing on 2 stats ATK and MAX HP is really a terrible idea.
    > Rework her signature weapon to be HP based or Elemental damage
    Her damage is so bad without a buff and without other team to trigger a reaction.

  • @saurabh95mishra
    @saurabh95mishra Год назад +8

    Character design and development takes a lot of time and the planning goes a long way back from the release date.
    My theory is hoyo always had dehya as a 4 star character in mind and moulded her like that, but due to recent hype around dehya in sumeru main quest they decided on making her a 5 star(capitalise) meanwhile also adding her to standard banner knowing how hype will fall after release and due to her 4 star like traits.

    • @luminous3558
      @luminous3558 Год назад

      Doesnt it take a long time to make the character quests though?

    • @kiiroblack
      @kiiroblack Год назад +1

      Kinda doubt: Sumeru August Characters introduction video only showed characters who are now 5stars. And there was Dehya too. So i think they planned her to be 5star.

  • @agentsig6100
    @agentsig6100 Год назад +2

    15:24 : another suggested fix would be if she jump cancels her Burst her ER will be refunded based on the remaining time left of her burst

  • @bruhra7307
    @bruhra7307 Год назад +4

    Yess the thing i noticed with her burst is that it's one animation and not actually something like a Raiden or an Itto burst.
    Basically the entire 4 second window is an animation itself for the whole 4 seconds, while Raiden's burst animation ends the moment she pulls her sword out, and lateron depends on Raiden's normal attacks.
    While for dehya, her burst itself is a 4 second animation and not a normal attack.
    You can see this for yourself if you do not touch your keyboard, she'll still do her said attacks, because that whole attack sequence is an animation and not her doing normal attacks
    Which is cuncurrenly means that it works like every other animation in the game, and so gets jump canceled. Its also why she cannot proc yelan or xingqui because she isn't doing a normal attack she's just in her animation state.
    Personally I think its so useless to do that like just make her burst something like raiden, so we can choose our own NA combos and she can proc xingqui yelan while not getting frozen.

  • @RezDK
    @RezDK Год назад +1

    I think it's pretty stupid in general that the jump button is used to break out of freeze i don't wanna jump on accident and potentially die because of it but i have mash to get out fast i wanna be able to choose whatever button i prefer to break freeze or use elemental sight it's quite annoying that it can't be changed in the settings

  • @miku9862
    @miku9862 Год назад +32

    Imagine Dehya getting buff in future but she will not come in banner instead standard or lost ur 50/50

    • @JackieBlade1
      @JackieBlade1 Год назад

      Better that way than a character with an identity problem who you don't need now and very likely never will.

    • @Aceleo209
      @Aceleo209 Год назад

      The only real reason why so many people don't like her gettting buffed. They just like meta characters, which isn't wrong really and they don't want to miss out buffed stuff

    • @jcceno4273
      @jcceno4273 Год назад +13

      ​@@Aceleo209 dude no, dehya's kit is just that bad, her role can be filled by literally any shielder, most of them even better. It would've been better if she was meta, I mean it's been a while since a pyro 5 star came out, and she turned out like this.

    • @RejectedInch
      @RejectedInch Год назад +8

      @@Aceleo209 No, the issue is that we are sold a 3* characters as if it's a 5* and said character is going to waste our 50/50 from 3.6. Even losing to QiQi will feel a blessing, because at least QiQi fullfills the healer role well, while Dehya, SADLY fullfills no role. Even Noelle fullfills the tanker role better, better DPS output and heals the whole team without losing the burst if swapping out...and is a 4*. The issue is not the meta. The issue is being given a faulty product.

    • @mangshu21
      @mangshu21 Год назад +1

      @@Aceleo209 she is worse than everyone else.. She alone is that bad. Nobody is as bad as dehya.

  • @ravissary79
    @ravissary79 Год назад +1

    Facts: she's the ONLY core Pyro sumeru character... the dendro country.
    It only stands to reason she should be THE premier burning and Burgeon enabler. She should do for burgeon what Nilou and Kevah do for Bloom.
    I'm fine with her not over applying Pyro, dendro reactions don't like too much Pyro. That's great. But she should have a built in mechanic that either increases burning and Pyro damage by 40%, or allows stacking... like 4 seeds can effect targets, not 2, or burning can stack multiple times with her... like 3 or 4x, so even boss's might fear the DOT effects. Either that or her burning effects stack a separate DOT that's HP based, so bosses get hit hardest. There's any number of possibilities.

  • @toastmade9230
    @toastmade9230 Год назад +6

    Finally big and international streamers talking about FIX DEHYA, congratulations Sevy.

  • @shamirk.g.864
    @shamirk.g.864 9 месяцев назад +2

    A year later and Hoyo hasn't taken any I-Dehyas from any of the content creators or fan base.

  • @bersa2398
    @bersa2398 Год назад +4

    When they presents dehya for the first time, i thought she would be like a dark knight from final fantasy. The damage absorb by her elemental skill could retaliate with a huge amount like the sacrifice attack, once dehya come back to battle field

    • @sylas3265
      @sylas3265 Год назад

      Honestly that would’ve been amazing and I’m line with Dehya’s personality! Huge missed opportunity

  • @hexaquras9374
    @hexaquras9374 Год назад +2

    The only way I can think of buffing her is either lower her E downtime to Albedo levels of spamability or whenever she uses her bursts her theme plays, thats it

  • @j2lewis
    @j2lewis Год назад +4

    Thanks for making this because i really hope Mihoyo is getting the point. Even though ive been having fun w/ Dehya on the "mono" pyro team she really needs a bunch of tweaks balance and QofL wise that are all summed up nicely here. Heres hoping we get even some sort of adjustment to get her in a better state

    • @Borgolii
      @Borgolii Год назад

      There's no getting the point with Mhy what we need for them to get the point is to give them the 1st anniversary award treatment but most of the players are fine with it anyways so meh who cares

  • @Borgolii
    @Borgolii Год назад +1

    Mihoyoverse does not fail to dissapoint I already gave up caring back when they released the TCG thing anyways I'm just here for the lore RUclipsrs at this point

  • @mrre-sama1068
    @mrre-sama1068 Год назад +3

    Looking at the timing of the skill and the burst that pauses the skills timer, I really hope that they lower her burst cost or at least better particle generation. At least with you can guarantee that her burst is always up. Right now unless you run Bennett to battery Dehya or run favonius it's kinda hit or miss when you can burst with her without sacrificing too much damage stats.

  • @demonslayer4951
    @demonslayer4951 Год назад +2

    13:15 just like Yang in RWBY. The more damage she received, the stronger she attacks. Fierce lion punches! I want her elemental skill just like Raiden's e. The difference is Dehya's e has limited area while Raiden's e follows the team. Also, once Dehya's e expires it will explode.

  • @ultima1594
    @ultima1594 Год назад +9

    If they made her mono Pyro unit that would be so cool, like her burst damage increases depending on how many Pyro characters are in the party.

  • @SolracNexus
    @SolracNexus Год назад +1

    You know it's serious when a wholesome youtuber starts a slideshow presentation

  • @LinksXCV
    @LinksXCV Год назад +4

    Hope Hoyo really considers these meaningful suggestions and not just let all this be for nothing

  • @xuxu0366
    @xuxu0366 Год назад +1

    This is such a great presentation, good job! Also these are clear ideas we can all submit to feedback to them !!!!

  • @KobiSheero
    @KobiSheero Год назад +6

    I almost sure Hoyo was testing boundaries with her, too bad community backlash wasn't as big as it imho should

  • @Legojake94
    @Legojake94 Год назад

    26:00 a FANTASTIC idea. i love the idea of a tank that absorbs and reflects that damage back at her enemies. it fits well with her identity and backstory as well

  • @MeowEste
    @MeowEste Год назад +5

    I love Dehya's burst so much aesthetically and as the concept, hope Hoyo wouldn't change it 's duration and animation aspects even if they really decide to change her kit.

    • @rdklgrunt6985
      @rdklgrunt6985 Год назад

      they should really maker her burst replace normal attacks instead of being ''auto mode''. Basicalle while in burst mode Normal attack = punches - Elemental = kicks (with 2 or 3 second cooldown)

  • @theruder9
    @theruder9 Год назад +2

    Assuming they never touch her, and they probably won't considering how much time has passed, this is what 'her' artifact set should've been.
    2-Piece : 20%HP 4-Piece : Upon using an Elemental Skill, for each 1000 HP missing, gain 1 stack of 'DehyaBuff' , each stack lasts 8 seconds, gives 10% Burst Damage, and regenerates 2 Energy if you burst while they are active.

    • @Reubenaut
      @Reubenaut Год назад

      With Fontaines mechanics this feels like a very possible set to get

  • @reminisce775
    @reminisce775 Год назад +6

    it seems that Sevy have some i-dehya on how to fix her😉

  • @ghostwithsliceoftoast
    @ghostwithsliceoftoast Год назад +1

    I have an account question. I want to mail Cyno, and if there’s a character that makes Cyno better, should I get them or Cyno first?

  • @simonditomasso9868
    @simonditomasso9868 Год назад +3

    zajef sent me here, here's a like and watch time (:

  • @zuikakuloveskaga4068
    @zuikakuloveskaga4068 Год назад +1

    Question: why is nobody talking about putting her in an overburn (overload+ burning) team instead of burgeon?

    • @kryochar9954
      @kryochar9954 Год назад +1

      Because it seems like ppl are busy trying to force her into a vape/ burgeon dps playstyle.
      I find Dehya overburn teams to be actually fun: Sucrose, Dehya, Kuki and Nahida.

  • @ArmyofThalia
    @ArmyofThalia Год назад +7

    Sevy is one of the most known educational content creators in the community. If she makes a 2nd video about a character being awful, MHY should listen cuz a LOT of people are gonna see this and be more educated on the issues.
    As we all know, Sevy has lots of I-Dehyas. Get it? Like Ideas? I-Dehyas?

    • @xdoorx
      @xdoorx Год назад +1

      oh hello, cyno

  • @aidescal8
    @aidescal8 Год назад

    Thanks for the open discussion!
    I strongly agree on the poise effect duration to be integrated with the circle field duration. I also have few inputs to share in the fixing:
    For her defensive role, I think that if her defense stats (and possibly physical dmg res too) is also factored in the HP drain of Dehya when the mitigation happens, she could survive a bit longer and maintain a good amount of HP left while off-field.
    In her offensive role, I think an energy refund after her burst ends would be nice too. She gets more energy if the burst is used and she retrieved her circle field.

  • @m4sterred853
    @m4sterred853 Год назад +3

    The more we dig into Dehya’s kit, the more she feels like the embodiment of Murphy’s Law. We gotta make sure it changes peepoRiot

  • @Strider_Shinryu
    @Strider_Shinryu Год назад

    Great video, and it's really nice to see you include the one specific suggestion I had, which was to actually have the damage she takes on result in a stacking damage buff. It really feels not only good mechanically but also feels like it fits her character as a mercenary/protector/bodyguard

  • @rirururu4697
    @rirururu4697 Год назад +6

    You could write a whole curriculum for a "what a game programmer shouldn't do" course and include an entire unit/chapter just about Dehya alone. Each lesson is about one broken part of her kit.

  • @pbramantio136
    @pbramantio136 Год назад +1

    Other than the timing that you have mentioned, I personally don't think that her kit is that bad. It's just that her damage is super low, especially for 5*.
    I think the possible improvement that Hoyo can and will do is make a new artefact set. Here is my recommendation on the artefact set for her.
    2 pcs: X% pyro damage bonus
    4 pcs: Upon casting elemental burst, the active character that equip this artefact will gain stack every second if elemental burst hits an opponent. Each stack will increase burst damage by X% with maximum 4 stacks can be gained.
    It will help DPS Dehya, Klee, and even Amber. Three of the least used pyro characters. It will be a great help for these characters and not too overpower (or even it's useless) for the already good pyro DPS like Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Diluc, Xiangling, and Yanfei.
    Avoid giving %HP on the 2pcs cause it will definitely be too OP for Yelan.

  • @Vastsoe
    @Vastsoe Год назад +4

    So this is something that I have noticed quite often with the release of "Support Characters" why is it that every single support needs to do higher damage & work with X & Y, meanwhile we had:
    - 2.1. Kokomi who was bashed for low Multipliers, couldn't crit, but works well with Xingqui before and after Hydro Resonance change. Her "Artifact Set" & Corrosion was introduced 2 patches later to emphasize on bringing a healer against corrosion instead of shield teams who got ran over by Corrosion.
    - 2.4. Shenhe got compared to Ganyu & Ayaka in terms of damage, when she was meant to actually boost set Cryo DPS, yet people wanted to use her with Chongyun to make her able to be a Main DPS cryo.
    - 3.1. Nilou as a Bloom DPS gets compared to Ayato & Tartaglia in terms of damage multipliers. When she was meant for a whole new kind of "niche team" outside of Hyperbloom which was the dominant bloom version.
    Now we have Dehya. Who is clearly a burgeon trigger, not supposed to be on-field for the most time, unless you have her C4 for healing herself even further. If we look at who she competes with in that regard it is currently Thoma & Xiangling. So if we take replace Xiangling so that we can use her in National or Vape teams where she actually performs better. Now the question remains what is best Burgeon or Hyperbloom?

  • @validq171
    @validq171 Год назад

    we need more video essays like this! haha

  • @InfiniteTurbine
    @InfiniteTurbine Год назад +3

    Good overview of her issues and potential improvements. I hope HoYo is willing to give her some buffs. Technically they could leave her as bad as she is and it wouldn't be the end of the world, but it would be a bit sad and may be a worrying sign of how they plan to treat future characters if not given enough pushback.

  • @TheBilayer
    @TheBilayer Год назад +1

    I am still trying getting dehya.
    And I am deeply thankful for this guide.

  • @MadaraMikuSan
    @MadaraMikuSan Год назад +6

    I think any chance for character “fixes” is wishful thinking. It will be interesting to see where she stands 7-8 months from now after Fontaine has been released. She’s a support and we could very well be looking at another Kuki whose kit looked underwhelming at first but made sense later in the future.

    • @bloody4558
      @bloody4558 Год назад +3

      Not the same problem. Kuki looked underwhelming only to Meta players, but she was solid enough and already had her uses. Dehya is literally broken, her kit has objective problems which hold her back. Specific characters, weapons and artifacts cannot fix her problems.

    • @MadaraMikuSan
      @MadaraMikuSan Год назад +1

      @@bloody4558 Dehya's kit revolves around taking damage and HP. Hydro characters have always had an emphasis on HP and healing. Imagine a character like Ocean Hued Clam on steroids or an artifact which buffs damage based off how much HP was lost. Her kit looks irredeemable now but it is unique. No other character has a kit focused around intentionally taking damage. Time will tell if she is truly unfixable.

    • @toolazytoholdagrudge1148
      @toolazytoholdagrudge1148 Год назад

      I mean they fixed Zhongli and even if they reverted back the changes they still tried fixing Yae Miko (which iirc not as big of an issue compared to players feedback of Dehya rn.) And we can always use our "1st year anniversary incident" card.
      And as Sevy said in the video her role is unclear. The concept of her supportive aspect is really great and is a nice addition to characters that can sustain themselves like Hu Tao but poorly executed by making such questionable decisions.

    • @bloody4558
      @bloody4558 Год назад +2

      @@toolazytoholdagrudge1148 Yae's case was pretty much a joke, people complaining about literally nothing, resulting in a totally uneeded change.
      Yae even hits in a bit of an AOE, sot it was even less of a problem.
      Meanwhile Fischl only hits single targets and people praise her to high heavens, even though when Oz starts focusing on objects, it results in an even bigger problem than Yae ever had to face

    • @MadaraMikuSan
      @MadaraMikuSan Год назад

      @@toolazytoholdagrudge1148 I think the fact that Zhongli was the only character who got directly buffed just goes to show how rare it is for Mihoyo to buff characters in the first place (not to mention he was one of the first limited characters, an Archon, and has heavy ties to fictional China). I don't think it's impossible that Dehya gets buffed, just highly unlikely.

  • @hadascohen9900
    @hadascohen9900 Год назад +1

    I love all the fixes! I do have one extra thing tho, specifically for burgeon- make her coordinated attacks either have an aoe, or always hit close to the ground, in addition to attacking every 1.5 secs instead of 2.5. That is because, as she is now, sometimes her attacks won’t even hit the dendro cores bc the enemies’ hitbox is simply too high! That’s what’s happening in the current abyss, and it’s so sad 😭

  • @YellowGecko09
    @YellowGecko09 Год назад +9

    Can you make a video discussing how to fix my life and get me to touch grass?

    • @SevyPlays
      @SevyPlays  Год назад +15

      I cannot teach what I do not know

  • @rexaliv8798
    @rexaliv8798 Год назад +1

    I love Dehya but I'm really confused by the fact that her field duration is 12 seconds with a cool down of 20 seconds while, let's take another 5 star with a field for a skill, Albedo's field last 20 seconds with a skill cool down of 7 seconds or let's go to a 4 star that has a field as a skill Gorou his field last 10 seconds and his skill cool down is also 10 seconds
    So my question to Hoyo would be why does she not have 100% uptime on her skill while others do?
    Also why didn't make her burst a stance like Raiden Shogun's like it was said "if ain't broken don't fix it"

  • @charlesboudreau5350
    @charlesboudreau5350 Год назад +4

    I feel like it wasn't they wanted her to be bad, like some people are claiming. They wanted to try things and they didn't pan out.
    They put that burden on Dehya because they knew the character had a following already and that people would bite the bullet and pull her anyways.
    If a 4 star character had had that kit, like Kaveh, people would have declared them bad and skipped over them without fanfare. Remember Dori? Everyone agrees she's not good but there was no strong backlash over it. People just went "Unfortunate, welp."
    I feel her burst is broken in so many ways because they wanted to try something that didn't mesh well with normal attack, that being the dynamic attack speed from mashing the button? But the way it's implemented just breaks. It limits how much other characters the burst interacts with quite devastatingly (Not even Candace's burst works with her and they're like desert buddies), it gets cancel by janky animation logic, and the targetting is actually bugged and will sometimes target environment elements rather than enemies. Her burst is a total mess and I personally feel it stems from what they tried to do with it being a rapid fire thing instead of just changing her normal attacks like.. so many other characters work correctly with.
    As many have stated the 2.5s delay on the Coordinated attacks feels really slow, especially since a random burning enemy on the other side of the field could trigger it rather than the bunch of grouped enemies you're targeting actively, essentialy wasting that AoE blast. Her normal attacks are too weak to justifiably space the procs so far appart, like her multipliers are objectively low for a claymore.
    They won't and can't rework Constellations, but it would have been better IMO if C1 was just built-in. current C2 was C1 and C2 was instead that Dehya procs the coordinated attacks on everyof her own Normal Attacks in the field. That would have been a substantial increase in her own damage which is more typical of 5 star C2s we normally see. But her attacks being the trigger also doesn't work with the current way the effect triggers.
    Though personally, I wouldn't want that to be a constellation at all. Changing it to 1s like many have suggested achieves mostly the same thing, but has the added benefit of working even when Dehya is off the field.
    The fact she has a suplemental interuption resistance buff on 9s of a 12s uptime is so bizarre too. It would be very easy to make it "make sense" by having the 9s restart whenever she relocates the field with a second use of the skill. Timing it right in the middle would align perfectly with the 18s uptime that her C2 can give you. The numbers feel like they were meant to align this way, so it's puzzling that they do not.
    Then there's the burst which... like. It's so janky. It really should just have worked like every other similar bursts that override normal attacks. It would fix the targetting, the animation and burst being cancelled by jumps and collisions, as well as its ability synergize with other characters's own bursts of effects. It's like the Burst was intended to be a tradeoff mechanically, but nothing was gained in return. Also, at the risk of taking more damage, you could get around the "Frozen" interruption by just making Dehya Pyro-affected. That way only melts or vaporizes would proc against her during her burst instead of Frozen which kills it entirely. Taking damage is her whole schtick so I'd be okay with that.
    It's not like the game is very Hard, I have a C1 Dehya and she feels fine, numbers wise. On the low side but things still die relatively quickly when the whole party's involved, so whatever. But her kit itself is so bizzare. It's not things that seem like it'll all make sense later, like with EM scaling Electro units of the past year suddenly "clicking" much better with the introduction of Dendro. Short of an Hydro character who works similar to Raiden's skill, proccing on DMG applied and not NAs, the burst is super limited which sucks in a team-building oriented game.
    I once again want to say I believe Dehya was used as an experimental sacrificial lamb because they knew the design and character appeal alone would carry her well enough through this. They wouldn't have tried that with Baizhu or Kaveh or even Mika because people would have skipped them much more easily and then forgotten about it, like we've seen with Dori not that long ago.
    Anyways, thanks for reading through my ramblings. I think Dehya plays okay in the game, since the game is not very demanding to begin with. But it's a shame to see a character wasted with broken design so much. I want to make it clear I don't believe Dehya has a number issue, personally, her kit just feels like it has been poorly thought out and limits her enjoyable team building options in meaningless ways.

  • @bitterblossom271
    @bitterblossom271 Год назад +1

    I really like the suggestions for the support-oriented kit and genuinely think a kit like that would bring a lot of variety not only for the standard banner but also for the Pyro element itself. I think the built-in C2 + her coordinated attack happening every 1.5s instead of 2.5s would already make her a much much MUCH better character--even if we don't fix the other defensive aspects regarding the clunky soaking mechanic. One thing that you didn't mention that I would also love would be for us to be able to end her burst earlier--like, if you press E mid burst she immediately executes that flying kick and puts her field back. This way I think she would feel like a 5* Pyro Fischl that has 2 different ways to reposition her skill.

  • @-13eNnY-
    @-13eNnY- Год назад +3

    Just triple her dmg. Easiest way to fix her. Wouldn't make her broken by any means but she'd have a role on your team as a pretty decent, but a bit clunky, burst-dps with some support capabilities. There's a lot that can be fixed with Dehya because she currently doesn't do anything even at a decent level. She just ranges from kind of bad to really bad or just nonexistent. There's really not much that can be changed that would make her much worse when she's already basically unusable at c0.
    Like Qiqi at least fulfills all of your healing needs. That also reduces the need for shields, dmg mitigation, etc. Dehya doesn't adequately fulfill a single role on a team be it energy, recharge, tanking, dmg, burst support, sub dps, elemental application, healing, buffing, etc.
    She's pyro as well so she can't even be carried by hyperbloom like all of the dendro, hydro, and electro characters can. Characters like Cyno and Alhaitham aren't really that good, individually, per se but they can easily clear everything by just abusing hyperblooms. Dehya would be significantly worse but she could be carried by teammates and the reaction dmg if she was one of those three elements.
    Cyno doesn't really do anything better than anyone else either. He just doesn't suck and he can abuse one of, if not the most, broken reactions in the game. Expensive burst cost as well and no huge nukes. Cyno's full burst uptime is kind of pointlessly long but there is such a thing as too short. Dehya's 4 seconds of kind of decent sustained dps is too short.

  • @geofer.o.13.888
    @geofer.o.13.888 Год назад

    Has anyone tested the healing from the White Iron Greatsword on the Ocean-Hued Clam Dehya F2P build? Or The Bell is still better because of its HP% sub-stat?

  • @Eizu_m
    @Eizu_m Год назад +3

    She feels like a 4 star turned into 5 star due to popularity :(

  • @KoiinuNe
    @KoiinuNe Год назад

    i love these types of videos! maybe you could do smaller ones, quick "fixes" that you think would make others "better" too!

  • @ricokarev3410
    @ricokarev3410 Год назад +3

    I feel like Hoyoverse just wants us to do something different for a change. We have used Xingqiu, Bennett and Xiangling everyday since day one. Maybe they just want us to build more experimental teams. You can kind of already see that with all the HP-scaling characters nowadays not needing Bennett anymore. I feel like back in the day, Hoyoverse didn't realise how OP these characters were and now they are afraid to nerf them. It's similar with shields. We have a good amount of shielders but also get more enemies that can still hurt us even if we have them.

    • @JackieBlade1
      @JackieBlade1 Год назад

      But for Dehya to work, she needs a Bennet and preferably Kadzuha lol

    • @ricokarev3410
      @ricokarev3410 Год назад

      @@JackieBlade1 true I meant more for a general scenario. Teambuilding has become a bit boring, because the team itself doesn't change, rather just one or two characters.

    • @ryllharu
      @ryllharu Год назад +1

      @@ricokarev3410 No offense meant, but a lot of us have been doing more experimental teams for fun from the beginning. If players are getting bored with the same two abyss comps, that's their own fault.
      There are a lot of extremely fun non-optimal team comps and builds that can still clear the Abyss, and more powerful teams that can hold their own against the most-used comps but are repeatedly ignored. Nilou Bloom teams are quite fun and also feel quite broken. Sukokomon is perhaps the best example of a joke-themed team that is very easy to use and can hold its own against the strongest meta teams at the time. Try Thoma, Yae, & Yun Jin, you might be surprised (the fourth character doesn't matter). Add back in XQ if you want it to be unfair.

    • @ricokarev3410
      @ricokarev3410 Год назад +1

      @@ryllharu No offense taken. I just generally see people use the same Team over and over again. But maybe it has something to do with the people I personally see in coop. To your other point I actually use Nilou myself and I unfortunately don't have Kokomi for Sukokomon otherwise I would actually like to use that (if you have any ideas for substitutes, I would love to hear it). Third Option also sounds interesting. It might sound wierd but I'm the kind of guy that plays wierd myself. I for example don't have and don't care about pulling for Zhongli, Venti or Kazuha. I have a C6 Xingqiu that I don't use and a Bennett that is barely "build" (if you can even call it that). But if you have any other fun Team comps, I would love to hear it (sorry for my english, I am not a native speaker).

  • @sassyquatch1185
    @sassyquatch1185 Год назад

    valkyrja did mention that the burst jump cancel mechanic/bug is a consequence of genshin's action priority, not part of her kit explicitly.

  • @sergeanthuman
    @sergeanthuman Год назад

    the only frustrating thing about her is i need the skill up time to come back sooner, so c2 would help me

  • @SuperBadVeez
    @SuperBadVeez Год назад +2

    While watching this video, I couldn’t help but wonder if hoyo did the same thing they did with faruzan. Basically hiding essential parts of Dehay’s kit behind constellations.

  • @VKT747
    @VKT747 Год назад +1

    tbh your presentation skills are so good than professors and even dehya kit. I was concentrated throughout the whole video and for the video i completely agree with your ideas. it is really good job doing this and hope hoyoverse realize this and at least fix it somehow

  • @bvnskee
    @bvnskee Год назад +1

    If Genshin was a school subject she would get a straight A for that PowerPoint presentation

  • @_Blank_-9261
    @_Blank_-9261 Год назад +1

    Can you make this a series for other characters that have outdated/non-synergistic kits.
    🙏

  • @Poet_from_ice
    @Poet_from_ice Год назад +1

    It is important to talk about problems in game design of charecters, thanks for doing it! That's a shame that mihoyo never rebalance their charecters like other gachas doing

  • @touchmenotplz4495
    @touchmenotplz4495 Год назад

    I like the burst idea where it's a stance but I thought of something where she can proc the burst like a stance at any time but it would tick her energy which can make her high energy needs more viable.

  • @Eddy_Stylez
    @Eddy_Stylez Год назад +2

    Sad reality is Dehya is a perfectly designed Whale/FOMO character. Same as Faruzan, only 5 star this time. Instead of hype it's now prayge that future characters are traditionally F2P/Dolphin designed. HYV has forever lost my respect with these predatory and manipulative tactics.

  • @GrmDark
    @GrmDark Год назад +1

    Professional af video 🤓👍
    No lie I went from playing genshin almost everyday since release, to almost not playing at all in the week.
    I have been so excited for her since her first appearance and keeping in mind that she's a mercenary, I was hoping she would be very good in combat. As my brother puts it: Dehya feels stretched thin. My obsession/attention is finally somewhere else in another game. The controversy with Dehya is just not what I hoped for, and I might just be done with Genshin altogether which is a shame because it has excellent combat compared to other games, but it feels neglected by now.

  • @ashvstheworld8005
    @ashvstheworld8005 Год назад +2

    You are not crazy. For almost 3 years now, Xingqiu has been glued to every Pyro dps. Seriously, I have been playing the "same" damn team since 2020. Truth be told, I would like it if Hoyoverse made Xingqiu, along with Bennett and Xingling, as rare as Amber, Kaeya, and Lisa. Standard banner and Starglitter shop only. We need to learn to stop relying on those three and try something new.

  • @Furankos
    @Furankos Год назад +1

    i think in the support revision her ult should be the same but have self infuse pyro like bennet burst to avoid get frozen and since you pick up the skill you should have self dmg reduction from skill multiplier and get the kick from the last hit of your ult should refresh dehya self healing that way you have a self sufficient character if you ult on cooldown but off field dmg mitigation needs to be at least at talent 10 70% to not need an extra healer on the team

  • @mSmExR05
    @mSmExR05 Год назад

    Thank you sevy, youre the first content creator that affronts this issue, i think if we speak we can make some changes to dehya