Thanks TSG for the history lesson on the 6139! I just bought a 73' model 6139, serial 3270, converted to 3 x 4 by James Morehead in Tx. Wonderful sound and a beauty with round front.
I had one of these ( without the knobs & switch) and I had it made a 3X5 with original teardrop levers , Ronnie Bennett ( of the Hillsiders ) in Bebington Liverpool , UK had the levers in stock and he put them on for me. Beautiful guitar, I regret selling it . Someone up in Scotland bought it.
@@stevenhickenjr Yes Ronnie is a great guy, The Hillsiders were probably the best country band in the UK ( although not always strictly country) they were always progressive, I thought Ronnie's pedal steel was superb . Im pleased to hear he is still going, he must be a good age now.
Nice run-down, but there is one misleading statement, and that refers to the fact that the changer has only one bank of rod holes for raise and lower rods. This does NOT mean, however, that the changer can only accommodate one raise and one lower for each string. It can, in fact, accommodate any number of raises and lowers per string (within the physical limitations of the lever-throw itself, of course). So if you had 3 pedals, for example, you could have the first pedal raise the E-string to an F, the second to an F# and the third to a G (changer leverage allowing, as noted above). All pulls would use the same rod, but they would use a separate "barrel" on each pedal-yoke (or basket; see 1:36 in video). The yokes act like the bell-cranks of conventional designs, but they allow for very rapid pedal set-up changes. Simply remove the barrel , slide the rod out of the old hole, slide it into the new hole and re-attach the barrel. In addition, the pedal-throw stop-screw might have to be adjusted to accommodate variances in string tension. I had one which was almost identical to the guitar demo-ed here, but mine had the original Baldwin 'wrap-around' neck: there was no aluminum-cast changer block, just a 'well' cut out of the neck to accommodate a changer armature that was bolted to the body. Cheers!
mrtriffid great info! This guitar is a single raise single lower, that’s what Sho~Bud Called it so that’s what I’m gonna call it too! And I’m fairly certain that an overwhelming majority would agree w/ me. Thanks for watching I always love to learn something new!
Thanks for giving us some information on the 6139. I have a 6139 serial 8652 in birds-eye maple. It's a very different design to the one shown in your video though. It doesn't have the rounded front edge, or the pot and switch layout. I replaced the original pickup with a Bill Lawrence L-710 because the single coil buzz was driving me crazy. I also swapped out the brass nut rollers for some aluminium ones made by Michael Yahl. I'd be happy to send you some pics if you're interested.
I have an old Sho-Bud that looks exactly like this one but has no pot controls. It does have a split coil pickup selector switch on the end plate. Is that a Pro 1 ?
I just picked up one of these. It has the model number on the tag and also on the end plate. Definitely a 6139. the odd thing is that it is not a rack and barrel underneath. It has cross-shafts and bellcranks. Are you saying they ALL came with rack and barrells? It does have 4 levers now too.
One thing I’ve noticed is that the earlier ones all have the rope inlay (or decal) and the later ones have the diamond-shaped decals. If yours looks like the one in this video and is not rack and barrel, it was likely redone. Mine is later-era has the diamond inlay with the cross shafts/bell cranks. Oddly enough mine has the teardrop keyhead, though. It makes me think that they made a lot of one-offs with the parts they had available in the 70s.
I'm looking to get my recently purchased Sho-Bud id'd Any info on how to about this would be helpful. Also acquired a Howard 12 string and it needs some attention,i.e. Cleaning. Thanks
Great video the info is much appreciated! I recently aquired a '73 model and am looking to add a couple knees levers so I can start using it regularly. If possible do you sell additional knee kits? Cheers! Justin
Got one! Dont think both my pots work tho, also have 3 foot, 3 levers, one o the levers thos is a strange set up, not really usable to E9, don't know how previous folks may have had it set up.
I worked at Sho Bud from 1973 to 1975. I assembled a whole lot of 6139s back in the day.
I had one of these back in the day and wish I still had it!
rzsdad1 great guitars! Thanks for watching!
Love the sho bud steele, but I have a "Heart model" accoustic!
Thanks TSG for the history lesson on the 6139! I just bought a 73' model 6139, serial 3270, converted to 3 x 4 by James Morehead in Tx. Wonderful sound and a beauty with round front.
Gary A. Jacobsen sounds like a great guitar! Thanks for watching!!!
I have a 1973 D10 Pro II ser. # 3370!! 8 x 6
I use A old Sho Bud Maverick 10 String I had to make new pull rods and a stop plate for it Works Great Thanks for Shearing !!!!!!!!!!!
Wow my Friend Work for Sho bud Building them guitars back in the Day !
I got a 71 professional. Awesome guitars.
I had one of these ( without the knobs & switch) and I had it made a 3X5 with original teardrop levers , Ronnie Bennett ( of the Hillsiders ) in Bebington Liverpool , UK had the levers in stock and he put them on for me. Beautiful guitar, I regret selling it . Someone up in Scotland bought it.
Funny you say that, Ronnie Bennett added some kneelevers to my dad's Pro 1 back in the day. He's a great workman and still going!
@@stevenhickenjr Yes Ronnie is a great guy, The Hillsiders were probably the best country band in the UK ( although not always strictly country) they were always progressive, I thought Ronnie's pedal steel was superb .
Im pleased to hear he is still going, he must be a good age now.
Nice run-down, but there is one misleading statement, and that refers to the fact that the changer has only one bank of rod holes for raise and lower rods. This does NOT mean, however, that the changer can only accommodate one raise and one lower for each string. It can, in fact, accommodate any number of raises and lowers per string (within the physical limitations of the lever-throw itself, of course). So if you had 3 pedals, for example, you could have the first pedal raise the E-string to an F, the second to an F# and the third to a G (changer leverage allowing, as noted above). All pulls would use the same rod, but they would use a separate "barrel" on each pedal-yoke (or basket; see 1:36 in video).
The yokes act like the bell-cranks of conventional designs, but they allow for very rapid pedal set-up changes. Simply remove the barrel , slide the rod out of the old hole, slide it into the new hole and re-attach the barrel. In addition, the pedal-throw stop-screw might have to be adjusted to accommodate variances in string tension.
I had one which was almost identical to the guitar demo-ed here, but mine had the original Baldwin 'wrap-around' neck: there was no aluminum-cast changer block, just a 'well' cut out of the neck to accommodate a changer armature that was bolted to the body.
Cheers!
mrtriffid great info! This guitar is a single raise single lower, that’s what Sho~Bud Called it so that’s what I’m gonna call it too! And I’m fairly certain that an overwhelming majority would agree w/ me. Thanks for watching I always love to learn something new!
Thanks for giving us some information on the 6139. I have a 6139 serial 8652 in birds-eye maple. It's a very different design to the one shown in your video though. It doesn't have the rounded front edge, or the pot and switch layout. I replaced the original pickup with a Bill Lawrence L-710 because the single coil buzz was driving me crazy. I also swapped out the brass nut rollers for some aluminium ones made by Michael Yahl. I'd be happy to send you some pics if you're interested.
Sho~Bud offered knee lever kits for DIY installation. I bought 2 of them and installed them myself in '75 or '76.
The sho bud 6139 was a starter guitar. I own a brand new. They were a great tone monster.
I have an old Sho-Bud that looks exactly like this one but has no pot controls. It does have a split coil pickup selector switch on the end plate. Is that a Pro 1 ?
If you ever do another history vid on Sho Bud . Can you give us the history on Sho Bud The PRO III Custom?
Model #6164
Mines 9572 s/n
Where did you record this video? In which state do you live
I just picked up one of these. It has the model number on the tag and also on the end plate. Definitely a 6139. the odd thing is that it is not a rack and barrel underneath. It has cross-shafts and bellcranks. Are you saying they ALL came with rack and barrells? It does have 4 levers now too.
orbodman It’s been redone.
One thing I’ve noticed is that the earlier ones all have the rope inlay (or decal) and the later ones have the diamond-shaped decals. If yours looks like the one in this video and is not rack and barrel, it was likely redone. Mine is later-era has the diamond inlay with the cross shafts/bell cranks. Oddly enough mine has the teardrop keyhead, though. It makes me think that they made a lot of one-offs with the parts they had available in the 70s.
Excellent!
ffreniere thanks for watching!!!
I heard no mention of the inventor of the sho bud, bud isaacs. He deserves some credit!
Whoa there. Sho is for Shot Jackson and Bud is for Buddy Emmons. I just suspect you may know this and are fishing. You got a bite
Love SS Cool for the background music
Nice! What pots are in that there Sho Bud? Did they use Stakpoles like Fender? That Birdseye is real pretty like.
I'm looking to get my recently purchased Sho-Bud id'd Any info on how to about this would be helpful. Also acquired a Howard 12 string and it needs some attention,i.e. Cleaning. Thanks
What is the purpose of the switch, since there’s only one pickup?
Coil tap.
Great video the info is much appreciated! I recently aquired a '73 model and am looking to add a couple knees levers so I can start using it regularly. If possible do you sell additional knee kits?
Cheers!
Justin
Anyone remember Lee Gillespie? I believe he was one of the Sho Bud founders.
Got one! Dont think both my pots work tho, also have 3 foot, 3 levers, one o the levers thos is a strange set up, not really usable to E9, don't know how previous folks may have had it set up.
Can you talk any faster?