I have been putting together a cultured stone fireplace using both sticky stone to finnish (once I found a supplier here in Ontario) and another well regarded stone adhesive. The Sticky stone out performed the other product in every capacity. Vertical hold even on heavier corner stones was amazing...no mechanical assistance required...and I used far less product to complete the job than it required with the first product. Cost savings there for sure. The applicator gun is awesome and the cleanup is very minimal.also no leaking crom the nozzle tip in between applications. Really....I couldn't be more impressed with this product
That's amazing! Thanks for sharing. I just clad a retaining wall in tarpaper and 1/2 inch cement board and was going to use mortar. Instead, I will be using stickystone adhesive. I'm sold.
Yes, you might just need to increase the amount of sticky stone that you use. Instead of doing a bead every 3 inches do one every 2. You will likely get a bit of sag this way, so be sure to start at the bottom.
I have an deteriorating exterior cement block wall. I was thinking of fastening some plywood ( perhaps treated) to the cement block with fastners and Stickystone and then using more Stickystone to install some fake stone panels or pieces. Do you think using plywood for an exterior job would work? I can cover the top edge of the plywood to protect it from rain and snow. My thought process is that using plywood would be quicker than repairing the smoothing out the block repairing work. Thank you for your videos.
This product was designed for vertical applications but I have tested it on horizontal areas, and it did work really well. I really like the Master Weld 948 as well, you can get it on Uline.
No it will not, due to applying the beads of StickyStone 3" apart vertically on the back of stone as opposed to horizontal. This allows space to exist between the wall and the stone and water to flow/evaporate preventing any moisture being trapped behind the stone.
@@PaverToolInnovators Thank you for the response, also I live in Florida and will the UV rays eventually shrink this product, causing stones to detach ? Thank you
We do not have experience with any Sika products. If you try it, let us know! We can tell you that we have thousands of happy customers that have purchased sticky stone!
Correct we don't have an exact year length of expectation yet. We have used it on multiple parts of our facility and are very satisfied with how it has held up in the northeastern freeze and thaw cycle. We do plan on shooting more videos on Sticky Stone.
Hi that is impressive. How about for horizontal applications? Do you have a different item to reccomend? Can this experiment be tried in with the paver stuck to a solid concrete block?
We don't have a specific recommendation for adhesive for concrete overlays. You make a great recommendation with the concrete block for another test video. Thank you.
We did this test in a controlled environment and allowed the adhesive to cure for 18 hours. This was not a test done in the lab nor was it sponsored by Techniseal. We just wanted to see how the product held up on those two substrates. We've used it on multiple parts of our facility and are very satisfied with how it has held up in the northeastern freeze and thaw cycle.
Your demonstration is really nice, the analysis however is flawed. It really doesn't matter weather if the substrate is failing or the failure happens within the sticky adhesive! What matters is that there's failure in the installation and the stone will fall!
I understand the falling off thing but i not seeing how it relates to the test. He was putting well over 1000 pounds of pressure on the adhesive which in most if not all cases will never see 1000 pounds.
@@PaverToolInnovators I stand by my statement. I used Loctite to glue a stone to a cinder block. After about 2 hours, I could not get them apart with a chisel and hammer. Is Loctite Premium Fast Grab what it says it is? You bet your ass it is!
This test is all well and good in an inside laboratory style testing, but it doesn't mirror site conditions. Ona site the exterior plywood would be covered in either housewrap, or solid foam, test those and then tell us it's good to use and will last a long time. If you're saying this stone is really and truly for exterior facing, then put it up on plywood that's been on site for a few weeks and is laden with moisture. This product is for builders who want to make quickly, don't want to spend money on a proper mason to create something that would last a lifetime, and is interested only in short term profits. Show us a test panel in a hundred year's time and then maybe we'll be impressed. There is no way an architect or engineer would specify this product to be placed directly on plywood for a house exterior, minus any kind of weatherproofing so what was the point of the test?
Totally agree using Sticky Stone directly on plywood would only be appropriate for an interior application. At 3:52 Caleb states that we would never use Sticky Stone on plywood in an exterior application.
I used it on stone veneer cobbles on a outdoor fireplace. Worked awesome and highly recommend!
I have been putting together a cultured stone fireplace using both sticky stone to finnish (once I found a supplier here in Ontario) and another well regarded stone adhesive. The Sticky stone out performed the other product in every capacity. Vertical hold even on heavier corner stones was amazing...no mechanical assistance required...and I used far less product to complete the job than it required with the first product. Cost savings there for sure. The applicator gun is awesome and the cleanup is very minimal.also no leaking crom the nozzle tip in between applications. Really....I couldn't be more impressed with this product
That's amazing! Thanks for sharing. I just clad a retaining wall in tarpaper and 1/2 inch cement board and was going to use mortar. Instead, I will be using stickystone adhesive. I'm sold.
Can i use this product on 2 inch by 2 inch stone sill attaching directly to solid concrete substrate?
Yes, you might just need to increase the amount of sticky stone that you use. Instead of doing a bead every 3 inches do one every 2. You will likely get a bit of sag this way, so be sure to start at the bottom.
I have an deteriorating exterior cement block wall. I was thinking of fastening some plywood ( perhaps treated) to the cement block with fastners and Stickystone and then using more Stickystone to install some fake stone panels or pieces. Do you think using plywood for an exterior job would work? I can cover the top edge of the plywood to protect it from rain and snow. My thought process is that using plywood would be quicker than repairing the smoothing out the block repairing work. Thank you for your videos.
could it be used on stucco too?
Can you use StickyStone on sheet rock
Stickystone is only as strong as the substrate that you apply it to, so use your best judgement!
How does this product hold up in Minnesota frost we have alot of problems with any kind of glue holding up wall caps for sure and step caping.
This product was designed for vertical applications but I have tested it on horizontal areas, and it did work really well. I really like the Master Weld 948 as well, you can get it on Uline.
In an outdoor application will water get trapped behind the ledger stone panels? As opposed to used mortar.. thank you
No it will not, due to applying the beads of StickyStone 3" apart vertically on the back of stone as opposed to horizontal. This allows space to exist between the wall and the stone and water to flow/evaporate preventing any moisture being trapped behind the stone.
@@PaverToolInnovators
Thank you for the response, also I live in Florida and will the UV rays eventually shrink this product, causing stones to detach ? Thank you
@@pozmarciv StickyStone resists UV and weathering effects!
Would this product work adhering manufactured stone to foam?
Stickystone sticks to most substrates but it is only as strong as the substrate itself.
Can you use sticky stone on a scratch coat.
Yes!
Given the size of the Sticky Stone tube, what DeWalt caulking gun model would you recommend?
DEWALT 20V MAX* Caulking Gun Kit, Sausage Pack, 300-600ml (DCE580D1)
Does this sticky stone work with real stones against cement blocks
Yes it will.
This looks very similar to Sika NS caulk. Is it basically the same product?
We do not have experience with any Sika products. If you try it, let us know! We can tell you that we have thousands of happy customers that have purchased sticky stone!
I wonder how long (e.g. years) the sticky stone will last? Obviously you could not do that now but it would be good to know.
Correct we don't have an exact year length of expectation yet. We have used it on multiple parts of our facility and are very satisfied with how it has held up in the northeastern freeze and thaw cycle. We do plan on shooting more videos on Sticky Stone.
Hi that is impressive. How about for horizontal applications? Do you have a different item to reccomend?
Can this experiment be tried in with the paver stuck to a solid concrete block?
We don't have a specific recommendation for adhesive for concrete overlays. You make a great recommendation with the concrete block for another test video. Thank you.
sticky stone on natural river rock for indoor fireplace?? Max weight of stones??
It would be cool to figure out the surface area of the foot on the jack to give an approximate psi rating
Damn that's impressive
Yes we were blown away by the results ourselves!
Well stickystone is just cool.
Yes, a very impressive product!
Any opinions with sticky stone on brick
It will work fine with a brick veneer substrate and stone to brick surface. If you're applying to neither, what material are you referring to?
Stone veneer
@@carlosyo2011 Great! Sticky Stone will work perfectly fine with that combination. Just make sure to make the beads 3" apart so water can't collect.
Why don’t you make circles instead of lines
The lines are so water/moisture can flow behind the stone. Circles would trap moisture/water.
how long did you let the adhesive cure before testing?
We did this test in a controlled environment and allowed the adhesive to cure for 18 hours. This was not a test done in the lab nor was it sponsored by Techniseal. We just wanted to see how the product held up on those two substrates. We've used it on multiple parts of our facility and are very satisfied with how it has held up in the northeastern freeze and thaw cycle.
I want to see Sticky Stone compared with a stone mortar.
Thank you for the great suggestion! We hope to do more tests like this in the future and will keep this in mind.
Your demonstration is really nice, the analysis however is flawed.
It really doesn't matter weather if the substrate is failing or the failure happens within the sticky adhesive! What matters is that there's failure in the installation and the stone will fall!
Thank you for the constructive feedback and for watching our video!
Would be nice to see a comparison to mortar installation. The level of force needed to create the failure was significant in both cases in the test.
I understand the falling off thing but i not seeing how it relates to the test. He was putting well over 1000 pounds of pressure on the adhesive which in most if not all cases will never see 1000 pounds.
@@IamTheJesus69 We plan on doing more test videos in the future and will keep this in mind. Thanks for watching!
Loctite products will do the same thing for much less.
We might have to put that statement to the test in a future video...
@@PaverToolInnovators I stand by my statement. I used Loctite to glue a stone to a cinder block. After about 2 hours, I could not get them apart with a chisel and hammer. Is Loctite Premium Fast Grab what it says it is? You bet your ass it is!
This test is all well and good in an inside laboratory style testing, but it doesn't mirror site conditions. Ona site the exterior plywood would be covered in either housewrap, or solid foam, test those and then tell us it's good to use and will last a long time. If you're saying this stone is really and truly for exterior facing, then put it up on plywood that's been on site for a few weeks and is laden with moisture. This product is for builders who want to make quickly, don't want to spend money on a proper mason to create something that would last a lifetime, and is interested only in short term profits. Show us a test panel in a hundred year's time and then maybe we'll be impressed. There is no way an architect or engineer would specify this product to be placed directly on plywood for a house exterior, minus any kind of weatherproofing so what was the point of the test?
Totally agree using Sticky Stone directly on plywood would only be appropriate for an interior application. At 3:52 Caleb states that we would never use Sticky Stone on plywood in an exterior application.
The test was done to obviously make you get your panties in a wad. Chill out!!