wow its fantastic and a breath of fresh air to meet a professional artist who knows this much about the history of painting and different artists around the world. Breath of fresh air to hear mention of Meldrum in the same talk as Hensche and Lack. Too many educators and fine artists are just not educated on this stuff anymore and in turn, I feel, cannot impart any worthwhile knowledge upon their students. I'm a professional, in so far as landscape painting is how I primarily survive but even at my age of 36 i'm struck feeling like I really missed out by not studying with someone like you.
Yeap never been attracted to hensche, way too saturated,I have a question if we pursue color... and color is light, wouldn’t make sense to just do white and black paintings? I tried that idea moons ago, doing plain air paintings in black and white devoid of color... I feel I see much better color as my understanding of light and shade increases? One point to note... nature is whole ... it has drawing(form) tone (light/shade) and color... wouldn’t the painter be adept at those three... ? Meaning as I put a stroke I follow the form ,the tone and color? Or you think they can’t never be united? If they are already in nature?
Early Sargent is based virtually entirely on values/edges/effects. No reliance on color per se. A natural tonalist. Point 2 values is the first part of the color, why Hale called them color values. Final one try it my way for a second. The painting is made of the spatial, what most people call line, the 2D; the Values; and all they do including the part of form that has to do with value gradations; and the Color which is in a world of its own and requires unique thinking to do well. All participate in making up a complete painter.
Nice verbal articulation- Hensche always seemed to be too formulaic to me- “we just do this”. Maybe he was too busy teaching and not onto his own paining pursuits. Always have turned away from tags like “impressionistic” “abstract”, “realistic”- they locate styles for the uninitiated, but they don’t work for me at least. Like saying “the Orient” instead of “Asia”. Are we still stuck there?
wow its fantastic and a breath of fresh air to meet a professional artist who knows this much about the history of painting and different artists around the world. Breath of fresh air to hear mention of Meldrum in the same talk as Hensche and Lack. Too many educators and fine artists are just not educated on this stuff anymore and in turn, I feel, cannot impart any worthwhile knowledge upon their students. I'm a professional, in so far as landscape painting is how I primarily survive but even at my age of 36 i'm struck feeling like I really missed out by not studying with someone like you.
Kind words, Devin. Wish you well.
Thanks for this! The outdoor 'portraits were called 'mudheads'.
Fantastic what you also say about not becoming dogmatic about an approach like its the end all be all.
Yeap never been attracted to hensche, way too saturated,I have a question if we pursue color... and color is light, wouldn’t make sense to just do white and black paintings? I tried that idea moons ago, doing plain air paintings in black and white devoid of color... I feel I see much better color as my understanding of light and shade increases? One point to note... nature is whole ... it has drawing(form) tone (light/shade) and color... wouldn’t the painter be adept at those three... ? Meaning as I put a stroke I follow the form ,the tone and color? Or you think they can’t never be united? If they are already in nature?
Early Sargent is based virtually entirely on values/edges/effects. No reliance on color per se. A natural tonalist. Point 2 values is the first part of the color, why Hale called them color values. Final one try it my way for a second. The painting is made of the spatial, what most people call line, the 2D; the Values; and all they do including the part of form that has to do with value gradations; and the Color which is in a world of its own and requires unique thinking to do well. All participate in making up a complete painter.
The painting on the bottom right of slide 9 is New England artist Theodore Wendel.
Thanks, Kelly
I made a crude film on Hensche , now on RUclips.
I will look at it, if I haven't already. Thanks.
@@PaulIngbretson You probably already have, it's been there a number of years. Do you know about Camille Przewodek?
Nice verbal articulation- Hensche always seemed to be too formulaic to me- “we just do this”. Maybe he was too busy teaching and not onto his own paining pursuits. Always have turned away from tags like “impressionistic” “abstract”, “realistic”- they locate styles for the uninitiated, but they don’t work for me at least. Like saying “the Orient” instead of “Asia”. Are we still stuck there?