Why do foreigners still study Russian and why I teach this language during the war?
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- Why foreigners still learn Russian and why I teach this language during the war?
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Привет! I don't think anyone stopped learning English during or after any of the massacres of the USA and the Anglosphere in general. This bigoted view of the language and peoples in general as the reflection of their governments has no place in language learning.
We didn’t massacre as many as the communists lol
@@ugiswrong If you are going to bring socio-economic theories into this, I'm afraid you'll have to share the camp with likes of Ost-Indian trade company, late Habsburgs and nazis. So please don't.
Body count still orders of magnitude lower, plus we set the bar for progress for the next half millennium
Do you want to know the difference? English is a necessary language, Russian is not. If there are several astronauts of various nationalities in a spaceship and one of them is Russian, the language they will all speak to communicate is English, not Russian.
I learn Russian for the following reasons:
1. Languages are not evil. People are. My native language is German and unlike the Nazis I have not killed a single person. So does speaking German make me an evil person? I don't think so. It is just a language. So is Russian.
2. Russian is used in the entire area of the former Soviet Union, it is a lingua franca in countries like Kazakhstan, Georgia, in the Baltics, in Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Kyrgystan and so on.
3. Even many Ukrainians speak Russian as their first language.
4. Not all Russians agree with a war. Thousands of people fled from Russia because they didn't want to serve in Putin's army.
Russians are also not Evil. Do not confuse CIA fake news with reality. Conflict has real roots, and those roots are coming from creation of Ukraine, when 3 completely different countries were "sewn up" into one. Western Ukraine is Austro-Hungarian empire, Middle Ukraine (Kievan) has Shevchenko-style speaking and Eastern Ukraine has developed their own dialects based on South Russian style. This three countries should have never been kept together forcefully. Even worse, CIA shouldn't have do their meddling in 2013. Where were Russians in 2013? Invading Ukraine? No. CIA were invading Ukraine and I blame US for their role in start of that war.
@@wingedhussar1117 I guess more than half of country was disagree with invasion, then after some unwise sanctions against regular Russians this ratio dropped to one of 3.
@@positiveenergy5004no one agree about any war, but most peoples are hopeless. We Saw a destruction of Iraq, Syria, Libya, Palestine's Gaza, Yemen and Ukraine due to political pride of some of the country. Let to be honest, they don't really care about Ukraine just to hurting Russia more. We are Asian peoples has different view on these terrible wars.
3. I'd even say most, especially in Eastern Ukraine.
If war was a resonable cause to not speak or learn a languange no one would be speaking German.
Language doesn't take sides, it's a human right and a civilized country should treat it no different than how it treats skin color or ethnicity.
Germans do not have military bases in Africa and the Middle East like Russia, and Germans don't support warlords and terrorists by providing them weapons in Africa and the Middle East like Russia. Germans do not have military operations for a very long time. Have you ever wondered why Russians would make a KGB officer become their president? It is their culture and ideology.
Yea, German was primary language in "Foreign Language" classes in USSR. Elites of so-called "west" are empty-headed, they are stepping into same road they had in early XX century. Today is year 1930. Europe is not yet crazy, but is going in that direction.
No one would be ever speaking 🇺🇲 English again ***
The real problem is that the Russian language represents dictatorship, the absence of rights, social and economic backwardness. In the history of Russia there has never been democracy, never, not even for short periods, but always a power ruled by despots who oppressed the people, and Putin is nothing but the last living example of this. English represents civilization, the conquests of rights, social progress, democracy, economic well-being. It is inevitable that the language reflects the characteristics of the people who speak it. I am sorry that millions of admirers of Putin and the Russky Mir all over the world including the West do not realize these basic and objective concepts, but if you insist we will come to a clash, and once again we will witness civilization prevailing over regression, as has always happened in history.
@@CarloMassarotto The level of naive libtardness is off the charts)
I learn RU because a lot of my neighbors are from Kharkiv. So it's just more useful to learn RU, and when I am fluent I will learn Ukrainian again
Russian is definitely widespread in Kazakhstan, like 90-95% can speak it(Kazakh language about 65%)Central Asia is definitely interesting and offer a lot of opportunities hospitable people affordable cost of living if you speak A2-B1Russian you gonna be alright ..sometimes young people speak some English and often ready to help but yo can’t get by with English outside of tourist-heavy venues like hotels or restaurants popular with foreigners.
Hobbyist here. English is my native language and I decided for no reason other than curiosity with Slavic cultures to study Russian as my first second language. I support eventual peace and healing between the nations.
I'm currently learning Russian in college right now. Mostly, it's like you said it's widely used. Plus there are more resources available to learn in a classroom setting as well as better translation tools. Also, war and politics have nothing to do with a language, to criticize people for speaking a language would be foolish.
Love to Russia from Slovak Republik!
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im from a former Soviet country. almost everyone speaks Russian in the country im from. in fact, it’s the official language there. the country is called Russia. my country is now at war with Ukraine, tho i personally am not at war with Ukraine. languages are languages, politics is politics. i speak several languages myself and i hope Russia and Ukraine will figure out all the stuff happening between there asap and everyone who likes Russian or Ukrainian language will have the opportunity to learn and practice both languages without thinking about cancelling the whole cultures and languages because of their political beliefs.
Thank you for your tutorials, Anna. I like your teaching both Ukrainian and Russian at the same time.
I must start learning Russian language very soon!!! I’m Ethiopian 🇪🇹
why would you want to study Russian?
Пушкин смог и у вас всё получится
Russian is the lingua franca of former Soviet union. currently I'm study Russian, even my Ukrainian teacher helped me gave me the material to study Russian.
Well, l prefer to separate politics from education, I am from Syria and we are currently in the same situation Ukraine, even though I am enjoying studying Russian language ( I STARTED WITH AN UKRAINIAN TEACHER BY THE WAY - NIKA) Russian languages is reach and beautiful. Finally I didn't know that Ukraine has its own language as I was thinking that Ukrainians speaks Russian.
Start small and get your head out of your arse hole
Говорят, но делают вид, что нет. Языки настолько близки, что понятны без перевода.
And now you know we have Ukrainian language :) but we have also people who speaks Russian...
@@ВалерийПономарев-к4х That is not true. Russians find it difficult to understand Ukrainian.
@@ВалерийПономарев-к4х делают вид, что не говорят, в основном в Прибалтике
Thank you, Anna, I agree with all you say. I think another huge problem is the lack of books for studying Ukrainian abroad. There are some good grammars, but only in English. I need to use both languages in my job and in my life. At the moment, I am trying to improve my knowledge of the verbs of motion and I can only study them on the base of Russian, as I wont find any book in my language (Italian) to study the verbs of motion in Ukrainian. And that's the same for other grammatical aspects that are common in these two languages. I went to the main library in my city the other day... An entire shelf of books for studying Russian (written in Italian), business Russian, colloquial Russian, verbs of motion in Russian, etc., and then only two little books about Ukrainian language: a little dictionary and a tiny book with some vocabulary. That's a pity and I am forced to study Ukrainian using books written in English, which is not my mother language, so I struggle. Knowledge of Russian helps in learning Ukrainian grammar, but it's not enough, as, as a matter of fact, Ukrainian vocabulary is quite different. So I really appreciate your videos teaching everyday vocabulary in both languages.
Great job and keep it up!
Yes, it's true. Unfortunately we have less books of Ukrainian language for foreigners even in English (I can imagine how little literature in Italian), than Russian language for foreigners...
I think russian language is only a language, and the subject of war should not be related to the languages
У вас очень интересная ассиметрия лица, обожаю такой тип.
Je m'intéresse au russe depuis le Canada parce que j'admire les pays qui ne lèchent pas les bottes des É-U.
i am learning both Russian and Ukrainian both languages are useful and worth learning but Russian has way more uses and most Ukrainians are bilingual but its still quite big and i noticed that some high population languages like Swahili are not very useful to me compared to smaller languages like Ukrainian or even Czech. if you know eastern European history you know how quickly things can change so don't let current politics influence your decision. think about the distant future most languages wont go extinct quickly it usually takes centuries. if you look at the most spoken languages today vs 100 years ago its mostly the same only Yiddish declined a lot but most grew in population or decreased very slightly. even languages that are considered endangered like Irish or Navajo are now on the rise somehow .
I rarely see Ukrainian speak Ukrainian from al video I've been watching so far with the exception is Zelensky and peoples in the western part of the country. Most Ukrainian soldiers spoke russians among themselves at the frontline, even the most hardliner Ukraine's politicians and military leaders like Poroshenko, Podoliyak, Veraschuk, Yermak, Kuleba, Danilov, Bakanov, Klitschko, Zaluzhny, Syrsky, Tarnavsky, and Prokopenko still speak Russian.
та у нас половина госслужбы и госаппарата говорит на «суржике», но это уже вопрос к тем кто их аттестовывал на должности… забей
Hello Anna, I was so happy to see you this afternoon. You look like you are having a great summer 🌞 even though it's very warm. 🥵. Interesting subject today. Humans have a basic weakness and is probably the cause of the many problems we see in the world least of all those involving Ukraine and Russia. Sadly I too was at risk of following the bias and although I vermitly disagree with the invasion, I remember that I was taught by my parents not to HATE and so as I started to understand the real issues in Ukraine vis a vis languages, I soon learnt that a large percentage of in Ukraine speak Russian either for historic reasons or that either one patent or both are Russian. So the folks that I got to know personally are bi-lingual or multilingual and I think that is great. It's a pity that rulers foster hatred to remain in power. Religion was and is being used in much the same way. Sadly my mother tongue is English and I've learnt French out of necessity. I wished I spoke other languages much the same as my wish to play many musical instruments. Ultimately as we are all different, we all have different ways of doing things and as humans we should be tolerant and accept our differences. You are a shining example of the way we should behave towards each other and that is something that I would like to thank you. Take care Anna and stay safe and happy and keep smiling. With love and best wishes to you and your loved ones Allan x. Slava Ukraini ✌️🇺🇦🫶🇪🇺 OTAN 🕊️
People often think emotionally and do not think deeply... Yes, many people still speak Russian. This is all due to the influence of the former Soviet Union and the development of the stereotype that the Ukrainian language is the language of the village and uneducated people. Unfortunately, there are still people who don't like the Ukrainian language because this stereotype still lives in their minds.
And a lot of people got used to speak Russian... But I help to foreigners understand our people)
суржик - это, вообще, отдельная тема - есть суржики разные..
1. смесь рус-укр.
2. польский и украинский.
3. румынский и украинский.
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а на украинском тв совсем какая-то дикая смесь :) хотя в рус-язе тоже исторически было много суржиков (в церквях присутствовал греческий и в меньшей степени латынь, а в эстеблишменте франко и англ)
The Ukrainian language is a surdzak of Poland, because the Polish language influenced it. Before the Second World War, according to Polish research, more than half of Western Ukraine spoke Polish as their first language, at that time there were still a lot of Poles living there, who ruled the area.
what nonsense? there are words that are also similar between russian and polish. so is russian also a surzhik of polish? or polish a surzhik of russian? and what about czech, slovak etc? certainly, the languages of neighboring countries influenced each other over the years, but eventually separate languages were formed.
@@AnnaLanguages I just wanted to give a little encouragement, because in Ukraine everything has to be returned to the original language, but the question is which language is that. None of these languages are original because they have changed over the centuries. The Orthodox religion was also banned in some places, during de-Russification centuries ago, everyone had to convert to an intermediate religion, Greek Catholic, as in the Balkans, but the country changed and Ukrainians did not slowly convert to Catholicism, as in the Balkans. Also, the language did not pass into the language of the masters, because the borders changed and it remained somewhere in between.
People are so stupid they think goverment policy, an ethnic group, and a language are all one monolithic block. You can't fix stupid. So I laugh it off. There's no point talking to such people unless they're genuinely curious.
I am Mexican. The United States invaded Mexico in 1846-1848 and took half of Mexico's territory. Is that why I am going to stop studying English?
Languages are a useful tool.
This title is inadequate. Lamguage sciences habe nothing to do with politics. Ehy do you learn English. Great Britain want to dictate the world? There are great people in Oxford who do know their own history
Russian is tool for 200mln people, ukranian only for 20mln, I just saved your 10 minutes.
Yes, that's the reality
@@Keplerism childish thoughs
@@Keplerism 40 mln probably was when USSR collapse, now I guess only 30 mln left. Regarding your fight against language, I think it is psychological exit out of helpless condition. You afraid to fight in the battlefield, feel guilty and angry on Putin, so you decide to fight with something Russian in safe place 🤡
@@positiveenergy5004 если вы изучите историю, то увидите, что на территории нынешней Украины никогда не было сильного самодостаточного государства. Это были либо земли, постояннно подвергавшиеся набегам степняков и крымских татар, либо колония поляков с наиболее жестокими формами крепостного права на грани с рабовладением. Единственное исключение - это домонгольское государство, позднее названное Киевской Русью, но это государство считало себя русским, ни в одной летописи никаких украинцев не упоминается.
@@ЕвгенийКорвяков да, а в России всегда был один сверхестественно богатый деспот с одной стороны, и миллионы неимущих рабов с другой, и это по сей день. Где лучше?
Wenn das Lernen von Russisch schon ein Problem ist, stell dir vor, wie es für diejenigen ist, die Deutsch lernen!
Du scheinst ganz gut zurechtzukommen 🙂
на самом деле грамматика и произношение в русском гораздо сложнее, чем в немецком
I didn't understand this statement, why "still". Russian is very useful, this is the first language in Europe by number of speakers, one of the major languages in the world and it is international language. While ukranian is slightly regional, and actually not significant at all, even not all the ukranians speak it. And that's is still why
Let's be honest, if you're deeply involved in some regional business, you'll probably learn a local language no matter how many speakers there are.
If not, learning even a language with as many as 200-300 mil speakers is a hobby project at best because you can learn one of the languages with billions speakers (natives or other learners) instead.
Russian is the most widespread language in Russia. In Europe it wins only by numbers, because Russia has almost one hundred and fifty million inhabitants, so this is the only reason why there are over one hundred million Russian speakers in Europe. But as soon as you leave the borders of Russia, very few people speak and understand Russian, in some states for historical and political reasons many even refuse to speak Russian, such as in the Baltic republics, or in Poland. Do you know of other cases of citizens of a certain state who refuse to speak a certain foreign language for historical and political reasons? I don't. This only happens with Russian. If you want to be understood in practically every country in Europe, the language to know is English, certainly not Russian, even if on paper it is the language with the largest number of speakers. And Ukrainian is not a regional language. It is the official language of the Republic of Ukraine.
@@CarloMassarotto Balkans are rife with situations when people know each other's languages to some extent but will refuse to speak it unless they see absolutely no other options. Romanian-Hungarian border can be funny for this reason. You can find a few examples in SEA as well.
Generally speaking, this is indeed unusual because normally people don't even learn languages of who they deem to be subhuman. So, it takes a history of shared political/economical environment before this can happen.
On a side note, having official status somewhere doesn't make a language *non-regional* if it is.
Ukrainian isn't spoken worldwide. I'm not even sure it's regional the same way Arabic is, for example.
@@Annokh So you mean that Russian is spoken all over the world? From your reasoning and your peremptory statements this is deduced. And this is false. From here on, you can say whatever you want, it has no value, nor importance, given your premise.
@@CarloMassarotto At no point I argued anything about the status of Russian language.
You're seriously riding the "us versus them" train here.
I study Russian in Albuquerque, New Mexico, U.S.A. However, politically I am on the side of Ukraine 🇺🇦
I started studying Russian before the war and I looked forwards to visiting a nephew who worked at the embassy in Moscow. He is no longer there. Likely I will never visit Russia now (I am 60 years old).
I was encouraged to hear in this video that I can use my Russian in Ukraine. I thought Ukrainians didn’t want to speak Russian. I would like to visit Ukraine. You planted a seed 😊
Sometimes it looks like a paradox. Some people really don't want to speak Russian. At the same time, many people still speak Russian. In any case, everyone understands.
When you come here, you will see that in cafes, restaurants, shops, the workers speak Ukrainian (they must serve in Ukrainian - this rule appeared only after the full-scale Russian invasion). But you can speak Russian, and they can answer you. I recommend just learning a few basic words (at least), such as: sorry, please, thank you... in Ukrainian. If someone gets angry at the Russian language, it will soften the situation (in my opinion).
But you are a foreigner, everything will be fine. Welcome!☺
The russian in the usa
Good way to look on the situation with the languages.
I understand that it's a sensitive thing. If I remember correctly it was from your channel I learned that the Ukrainian language was oppressed.
I hope you don't take it to heart if you get hate for teaching Russian. You are a good person and you should do what you think is the right thing to do.
Slava Ukraini!
Thank you for understanding!🤗
idk what kind of oppression was the video about, but during USSR times Ukrainian language was not oppressed. Not even close to that.
@@tawahachee8914 Unfortunately, it's true. Ukrainian was oppressed. As minimum the stereotip was developing about Ukrainian like the language of uneducated people for motivate people don't use it. And more books, magazines, movies... were in Russian.
You can read also about the Executed Renaissance and other historical moments...
@@AnnaLanguages ukrainian was indeed seen as a language of uneducated people. but it was not because it was oppressed but because most of ukrainian speakers don't speak it well themselves, using lots of russian words or russian words that are ukrainianized. Almost all the important documentation was written in Ukrainian, literature did exist and was published in Ukrainian. Just check your birth certificate and prove yourself wrong. It applies to you only if you were born before 1991 and have not requested a restored copy of that certificate. The language that is oppressed in Ukraine is Russian. Instead of creating a multi-language and multi-cultural country your govt did a huge mistake. You all could've not given Russia an excuse and a leverage but decided to go nuts because "buht muh ukrainian launguage is going to go exctinct if we make the russian the 2nd official language...." And now you got war.
Mistakes of your govt brought you to where your country is at this moment. God, please, give the intelligent ones strengh to survive and drag Ukraine out of the pit it got itself into...
@@AnnaLanguages That stereotype was there for the same reason even minor pronunciation differences were frowned upon by some, and this sentiment was being propagated mostly by people moving from villages to cities. Just like there's always "that guy" who is also the loudest in the room, such an event really got into some people's head, and in attempt to show everyone how "uplifted" they are now, they tried their most damnedest to avoid speaking in an "incorrect" manner and especially fiercely tried to make their kids learn "the language how it's in the books" (because obviously what's too hard for them, the kids will do instead, right?).
This was not a top-down initiative. You could always check how laughably blunt Soviet propaganda was to realize that pulling off such a fine manipulation intentionally was three parallel universes above anyone's pay grade there.
I learned Russian because my mother always said: "you have to know the language of the enemy"
Unfortunately I never mastered German😁
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Let me tell you what will happen if I learn Russian now rather than Polish. Since my mother's tone is Mandarin, I will get a nice job in China and probably visit Russia very often by tourist train because it's cheap. I will contact Russians very often through social media and ignore the fact that the Chinese government are supporting Russia financially, which is a good reason why Russia is still able to invade Ukraine. So If my Russian becomes fluent, I will definitely benefit Russians the most because they get their resources from China. You wanna see more international interactions between Russia and other countries? A lot of Taiwanese learn Russian rather than Polish or Czech because of the educational system at university in Taiwan. And I really want to learn Russian now as well, but I am not. Hope this info will remind you that your decision to teach Russian definitely has a negative impact on your own country at the current situation.
Слава русским слава Родине
Der Vergleich der ukrainischen Sprache mit der russischen Sprache ist wie ein Vergleich der englischen Sprache, zum Beispiel der Sprache des Apachen-Stammes. Und lügen Sie nicht, Russland hat die meisten ukrainischen Flüchtlinge auf der Welt. Es gibt keinen Hass gegen Sie als Ukrainer .
Falsch
Totaler Quatsch.
are you serious? In my opinion, Ukrainian is sufficiently developed and beautiful. Both Russian and Ukrainian have their advantages and disadvantages. But most likely your position is political, not linguistic.
Basically, it's the same as saying that the Norwegian language is the Apache language compared to Swedish.
@@censord6960 Forgive me, I am not a linguist. But if we analyze the Ukrainian and Russian languages, then the Ukrainian language consists of the meaning and description of the center - the root of words from the Russian language, only everything is turned upside down at the end. And most words in the Ukrainian language are pronounced differently in different parts of Ukraine, and many words are generally borrowed from the Russian language. Yes, if you are a linguist, then the sounds pronounced from the letters of the alphabet express the essence of the word, and in the Ukrainian language, in general, it sounds like a parody of the Russian language. Example: the word plane, in Ukrainian - letak. It is like a clown from the Russian language and a simplified comic form of an object.
@@СтепанЖиглов-ч3й You’re clearly not a linguist; otherwise, you’d understand what a linguistic continuum is. I can just as easily say that Russian is a parody of Ukrainian, and I’d even be right. The variety of dialect forms indicates that the Ukrainian language developed naturally in those regions(Notice all European languages, and you'll see that they all have many internal dialects.). Once, there was the language of Kyivan Rus, which later, due to historical events, split into Russian and Ruthenian. Ruthenian, in turn, diverged into Ukrainian and Belarusian. Take any Slavic language, and you’ll see that almost all words have morphological roots in Russian. Again, compare, for example, Icelandic, Danish, Norwegian, and Swedish, and tell me which of them is unique and which are parody languages. Spoiler: all languages have equal value because they all developed equally from a common ancestor.
Considering all this, your previous example makes even less sense because English and Apache are two completely different languages. But Russian and Ukrainian are languages from the same East Slavic language family. I would even venture to say that Ukrainian is richer because it has a well-developed dialect system.
Short answer: one _must_ know the language of the enemy. I learned Russian during the Communist era; I had a good Russian teacher who did not mix up politics with the language either. Sadly, after the fall of Communism, it was not possible to learn it further.
Who is your enemy and where are you from?
@@andrebyche31 You didn't understand me at all. Even if you are a soldier or similar being at war or in severe conflict with another country, you _must_ know its language and culture at least as well as the language of your ally. The Kurds in Iraq actually did the same with ISIS: they knew their faith and doctrine and exploited their weaknesses to the fullest.
@@andrebyche31 more to say, I'm from Hungary and parts of my family were affected by the 1956 events. Sad to say, our government, along with many Archie Bunkers here, seems to have forgot about 1956 and the TV stinks of Putin's propaganda like hell.
@@harczymarczy yes, now I understand.
"after the fall of Communism." What a mess in your head. You don't even know that there was no communusm in USSR, only socialism but also with many reservations
Потому что зачем учить выдуманную фигню. Тем более скоро это будет только язык беженцев. А ваши дети, как и ваши предки будут говорить по-русски, а украинский считать диалектом селюков.
Анно, хочу тебе сказати спочатку що мені дуже подобається твій канал. Для мене він дуже корисний тому що я руська-мовна Українка.
Я народилася у Харкові, але коли мені було три роки, моя сім'я переїхала до США.
Російська мова була моя перша мова. Я з родичами тільки розмовляла російську мову вдома. І друзі моїх батьків теж тільки розмовляли російською і вони теж усі були з України.
Коли війна почалася, я вирішила що я хочу розмовляти українською мовою. Я зараз вчуся вже два роки з вчителькою. Через уроки, Я відчуваю що я розмовляю українською досить добре. Це ще не ідеально, і мені треба мати більше часу вчитися, але прогрес є. Наприклад, я це все сама написала.
Що цікаво це те що я знаю багато російськомовних українців в США, але тільки я маю уроки української.
Усі мої родичі говорять мені що я молодець, але вони сами не хочуть розмовляти або вчитися українську.
Я думаю що говорити російську мову це і погано і добре. Я думаю що це добре тому що ми маємо розмовляти з іншими людьми з інших країнах. Наприклад, я мала розмову з дівчинкою хто з таджикистану. У них теж є їхня мова але без російського ми би не змогли мати розмову. Але наприклад коли у мене будуть діти Я тільки хочу щоб вони знали українську не російську.
У вас доволі непогано виходить. Є такий вислів, що чим більше мов ти знаєш, тим більше ти людина, позаяк кожна мова може змінити навіть твою поведінку чи світогляд. Наприклад, англійською я більш відвертий і позитивний, аніж зазвичай, а українською почуваюся більш упевнено. Багато ж людей просто перебуває в зоні комфорту зі знанням російської мови, тому не бачать для себе необхідності вивчати українську, проте ті, хто наважується, точно варті поваги.
Я з Києва, і можна сказати, від народження двомовний, але після школи моє оточення ставало дедалі більш російськомовним, і я почав відчувати, що російська стала виходити на передній план. Втрачати частину себе було не дуже приємно, тому з принципу підтримував рівень української, розмовляючи сам із собою і використовуючи українську в роботі за комп'ютером. Як би жахливо це не було визнавати, але більшість усвідомила важливість своєї мови й культури лише після початку повномасштабного вторгнення росії. Проте нема лиха без добра: більшість людей з мого російськомовного оточення вже спілкується українською, і це круто.
Дякую вам за те, що хочете навчити дітей розмовляти українською. Я впевнений, що з часом українська ставатиме все популярнішою.
@@censord6960 дякую за вашу відповідь та підтримку!
My Ukrainian language tutor taught the Russian language before, and she no longer does it now. I won't learn Russian before the war stops.
what a loss😂
so during aggression it is bad, but soon after it's ok? how is language connected to Russia anyways? Russian is one of international languages, not the one only people in Russia speak
@@maxym_smirnov ты написал простыню, а ведь мог обобщить простым "русские - колонизаторы, поэтому русский язык плохой". и тем не менее ты не сказал ничего, что могло бы послужить веской причиной отказаться от него. Британцы и американцы - далеко не самые миролюбивые народы (по крайней мере их правители), и тем не менее английский считается одним из самых распространенных языков и его вклад в науку и литературу является неоценимым. Так же и с русским языком: именно на нем общаются жители СНГ, если не владеют другим языком, а с английским у нас у всех традиционно туго. Вы вместо того чтоб поступить мудро, поступили тупо и теперь полной ложкой хлебаете последствия своих действий. Даже пытаться убедить тебя в абсурдности твоей позиции не буду. Ты и тебе подобные потеряны. 10 лет промывки мозгов не прошли зря. Единственное, на что я надеюсь в данном случае, так это на то, что ты и тебе подобные получите сокрушительный удар реальностью по голове и будете мучиться от бессильной злобы, обиды, и недовольства
@@maxym_smirnov твоя простыня слишком сильно пропитана пропагандой. Надеюсь, реальность ударит по голове тебя и тебе подобных так сильно, что ты взвоешь от бессильной злобы и обиды. Кстати, братишка, сколько тебе лет и откуда ты пишешь? Борешься против оккупантов, или сидишь тихонечко ныкаешься где-то, пока другие за тебя воюют? Или вообще за границу свалил и оттуда ратуешь за мову, нацiю та вiру? Издалека очень просто любить такую страну как Украина, не так ли?
lol, have just imagined the one tryna use some Ukrainian in his/her small talk or more common situation in Astana or Baku or even Vilnius
"Коротко" про себе. Я з невеликого містечка в Миколаївській області. Змалку мене вчили російської, тому що тоді це вважався "престіжний язик". Але (на щастя) в нас не було рос-мовного дитсадка, і мене віддали в україномовний садочок, де я швидко почав вбирати українську. Але вже в школі всі говорили суржиком. Вчився в Одесі, де, звісно ж, перейшов на російську, адже це ж Адєсса.
Але одного разу мене торкнуло, і я почав свій шлях до розуміння та переходу на українську. Сталося це після того, як я почув, що моя одногрупниця з Вінниці на 5-му курсі почала переходити на російську, і я тоді пригадав, як ще декілька років тому запитував у неї: "а чего тьі не перейдешь на русский?". І як же мені стало бридко, що я був одним із тих людей, через яких україномовна дівчина почала переходити на російську під тиском навколишнього середовища.
Повністю на українську перейшов десь у 2020-2021 роках.
Тож до чого я це все.
Я за те, щоб повністю забити на російську, тому що в росіян є російська федерація, Білорусь, Казахстан, Киргизстан, Придністров'я. Якщо є іноземці, яким потрібна російська, то хай її вчать у росіян, якщо їм байдуже на те, що вони чинять з сусідніми народами.
Не хочете втрачати гроші? Ок, робіть що хочете, але навіщо це поширювати, легітимізувати і виправдовувати тим, що російська міжнародна і не "належить росіянам"? (Вважаю це меншовартісним наративом. І взагалі всім, хто таке казав у медіапросторі, потім дуже сильно прилітало у вигляді хейту.)
В України є тільки Україна (ну, може, ще канадська діаспора). Навіщо підтримувати насильно нав'язану мову нашому народу, навіть попри названі вами аргументи "незручності"?
Багато іноземців запитують (окрім, напевно, німців, там багато етнічних росіян і наших ватників): "А чому у вас говорять російською, якщо у вас є українська і всі її знають, а російська - мова окупантів?" Я вже не можу нормально відповісти на це запитання, щоб не образити українців, особливо зараз, коли рф та росіяни нарешті відкрито показали свою сутність всьому світу.
І що з того, що російською в світі розмовляє більше людей? І що з того, що вона вважається міжнародною? Ви ж сказали, де розмовляють російською, але чому так вийшло, ви не знаєте чи не хочете знати? А якщо знаєте, то вважаєте за нормальне добровільно підтримувати і розвивати російську мову? Навіщо це робити? (Я у більш загальному плані, тому що вчити іноземців російській, щоб вони порозумілися з російськомовними в Україні, ну таке...)
Логіка просто 🤯-
"Російська більш розповсюджена, тож я, українка, буду допомагати їй ще більше розповсюджуватись, тому що 'російська не належить росіянам'."
Було багато ще думок, які я хотів написати, але мені трохи завадили. Цей коментар я почав писати приблизно о 23:20, а закінчував вже о 23:57, тому що в нас тільки що збили Х-59 і працювали ще по п’яти ворожих БПЛА.
Можете перевірити це в тг групі "Миколаївський Ваньок".
Згадав. Хотів написати про волонтерів.
Моя мама працює в лікарні. Коли туди в 2022-2023 роках приїздили волонтери, були такі, які дупля не розуміли ані української, ані російської. І о чудо, вони прекрасно порозумілися через гугл перекладач. Іноді я міг приїхати і допомогти, щоб було швидше. Розмовляв з американцем, який знає ще французьку та іспанську. Ще говорив з британцем який знає тільки англійську. Тоді я дуже сильно дивувався, як їх сюди занесло. І знаєте, не без труднощів, але вони цілий рік, на той момент, прожили в Україні. А якби вони знали українську, то в них взагалі б не було проблем, тому що навіть попаяні ватники, коли б почули іноземця, який говорить українською, то вони б пішли назустріч і заговорили так ненависною їм "телячою мовою", якщо зовсім не відбиті, звісно, а якщо так, то і не треба іноземцям з такими спілкуватися.
І так, я розмовляв з волонтерами, які знали тільки російську. Але ж я єхидний, тому запитував, чи знають вони англійську.😏 І напевно через це один з них сказав: "Якби я вчив зараз, то я б не обрав вчити російську". Це при тому, що я за язика його не тягнув, це він сам почав
Втім, ви вільні робити так, як хочете, але я один з тих людей, які це не підтримують і думаю, пояснив це доволі розгорнуто і без надмірного хейту.
How do you folks use working with the China suppliers who speak neither English nor Ukrainian, for instance? It's a common place for those Chinese persons that are in charge of "the CIS countries market" (as they cluster it themselves in their companies).
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Україна не входить до СНД!
Наразі до складу СНД входить 9 членів: Азербайджан, Білорусь, Вірменія, Казахстан, Киргизстан, Молдова, росія, Таджикистан, Узбекистан.
До того ж Грузія вийшла з СНД, вона спочатку стала членом СНД у 1993 році, однак офіційно вийшла з організації у 2009 році.
І наскільки багато таких китайців, які раптом знають російську, а не англійську?
Я знаю, що у Китаї масово вчать англійську, а не російську. Це тому, що англомовний ринок для Китая набагато цінніший, тому що банально більший в ресурсно-грошовому об'ємі, бізнес, патенти, налагоджені зв'зки тощо. Яскравий приклад цьому, це те що Китай виконує санкції США щодо росії. От прям на днях, Китайські банки перестали обслуговувати клієнтів з росії!
Я поважаю вашу думку і розумію все те, що ви описали.
Якби я не була пов’язана з викладанням мов, цілком можливо, що я б думала так само. Але я стикалася з іноземцями, які повністю підтримують Україну, але з певних причин їм треба саме російська, або і російська, і українська. А більшість тих, хто вивчає українську, раніше вивчали російську (саме такі траплялися мені).
«Російська більш розповсюджена, тож я, українка, буду допомагати їй ще більше розповсюджуватись, тому що 'російська не належить росіянам'.» Не погоджуюся з даним трактуванням.
Від того, що я відмовлю людині у вивченні російської, нічого не зміниться. Людина просто знайде іншого викладача. А ще «краще», російського.
«Якщо є іноземці, яким потрібна російська, то хай її вчать у росіян». Якщо всі відмовляться у викладанні російської, тоді більше піде до бюджету росії… А воно нам треба? А також збільшуватиме кількість іноземців, на яких вплине російська "думка" стосовно війни в Україні. Думаю, створювати конкуренцію - це не погано. Адже вже так склалося, що ми також знаємо російську. Але це моя думка, тому ваше право, мати іншу.
Звісно, в Україні ми маємо поширювати українську і створювати умови та мотивацію для своїх же, вивчати рідну мову. Маю надію, що колись-таки в нас буде одна українська мова, і не буде більше цих мовних суперечок і плутанини. І в такому випадку іноземці теж будуть більше вивчати українську (ті, у яких будуть відносини саме з Україною: робота, проживання і т.д). Але коли дивлюся на маленьких дітей, які вже розмовляють російською (про дорослих вже мовчу), то розумію, що має пройти пару поколінь. На жаль, такий процес довготривалий.
Слава Україні!
@@AnnaLanguages З останнім абзацом повністю згоден; на жаль, про дітей також.
that is stupid simple. it is good to speak language of your enemy.
but they speak Buryat, don't they?
I didn't say "it is good to speak language of your enemy", I said "it's useful to understand the language of enemy".
@@AnnaLanguages when you interrogate prisoner of war he supposed to understand your questions and you should understand his answers.
So that's why you speak English
@@AnnaLanguages может быть, у вас хватит смелости признать, что "врагами" нас сделала пропаганда бандеровских националистических ценностей с помощью Штатов и НАТО в целом? В России никогда не было массированной антиукраинской пропаганды. Россия благодаря поставкам дешёвого газа проспонсировала Украину более чем на 100 миллиардов долларов, и какая благодарность? Москаляку на гиляку? Западные же ваши "покровители" не давали денег на строительство инфраструктуры, они дают деньги исключительно на войну между славянами.
the number of russian speakers is being reduced by a large amount every day
On both sides. Which is sad.