Vitesse Motorsports Throttle Controller Hands on Review
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- Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
- Installed my Vitesse Throttle Controller and want to share my review of how the product works on my 2016 Camaro SS.
The Vitesse Controller used for the 2016 Camaro SS is the same one for the 2014 Corvette Stingray. You can order it here: bit.ly/1PozEOT
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Kudos for actually taking care of your car!!...there are so many you tubers that do burnouts immediately out of the dealerships with a couple miles on the odometer!..its just makes me cringe when I see it!!
Why ?
Thanks for the honest and real review! I can never tell if people are just thinking it makes a difference but it is pretty clear what it does here lol. I'm definitely interested in my own throttle controller now...
I have this on my Pontiac G8 V6 and it's night and day with it on. I can feel it on mine at 1, and SP9 and the car set to sports mode us just insane.
Do you have any other mods on ur G8?
+Willster7471 Just some GT axel backs and no mid muffler or resonators. I do have an Xbox pipe.
Just ordered mine today. Thanks for the vids.
Just got mine installed today. Very nice!! Even the eco mode was cool. Couldn't really test it out cause of all this rain in SoCal. Who said it never rains in Southern California?!
+Montoya Gunn I forsee some sun coming.
Just installed my Vitesse Throttle Controller on my '16 camaro SS. Beast!! Its a mutha to get behind that foot pedal!!
Do u still have the throttle controller? And if so how is it? And how has it been these 4 years?
Bought my Camaro last week and installed the VTC today. You were spot-on about the installation being a bit difficult with regard to accessing the electronics behind the gas pedal. I'm kind of tall also (6'5") and had to twist into positions that I didn't think I could.
After finishing the installation, I learned why the VTC is kind of expensive for what it is... because it's WORTH IT.
Setting the controller to SP5 made a night-and-day difference in how the car responds.
Does it void warranty?
From everything I've read, No. But I'll ask the service guys at the dealer in Tuesday when I take it in for the recall.
Also, I did the install the hard way. It is FAR easier to install by simply unbolting the gas pedal (one 10mm bolt), slide it back an inch, and lift it out. Then you can easily plug in the VTC.
Oh alright, and what recall was there. I didnt hear about anything recently?
remove it before you go to the dealership
transmission coolant line rubs on a bolt.
Facially expression said it all 😂😂
Just got mine installed Yesterday, and drove around for a couple hours, trying it out. It's GREAT!
When I saw the look on your face, and the same whoa-ho-ho you got on your first Procharger pull, I had to get one...
How much did they chsrge u to install.it
Little did 2016 Lethal know what he was in for in 2019 :)
Thanks Sledgie! I didn't know such an item existed. How does this device plug in? Duh, I did a search and found it. Plugs into the harness for the accelerator pedal. So, WOT isn't changed and total power isn't changed, just throttle response towards WOT?
+Tara Rene Martin Correct.
Recently installed on my C8 Corvette.
Also had one on my CTS
I was thinking to myself the other day about the throttle lag and how when it's in "performance shift mode" you seem to get that power right away and no lag. that's what I wanted but all the time. I'm assuming this is a fix that removes the lag of waiting for the engine to kick in and go? I think this might be my next mod then.
Great channel man! I'm looking into possibly buying a 2016 SS come May/June, either that or a Scat Pack. Just trying to get as much info on these cars as I can so I'm glad I found your channel! Keep up the videos man!
+RP Productions Thanks! Lots more to come.
+RP Productions Guy i work with has a brother that works at a dealership that sells all makes and he claims the mopar vehicles come in the most often for electrical issues so there you have it for your choice.
Gordon Liddy It all just depends who you ask. Everyone will tell you something different and every manufacturer has their own issues.
+RP Productions when our state troopers complain about the Chargers and my friends and coworkers who owned mopar have nothing nice to say about them then that's enough reason for me to not buy one. Ford or gm are brands I can trust.
I just ordered mine off of ebay ... I can't wait to get it and install it
This Video is the coolest..every Camaro owner should own this...Excellent Review
Sorry to burst everyone's bubble. The science behind an electronic enhancer won't make more power. Liken it in a mechanical sense to changing your throttle cable on your carbs actuator lever to a lower hole, giving faster response to a given opening of the butterfly. Wot still remains same and after tiring of it you will usually trim it back to the higher setting for a smoother more predictable economy setting.
I love how he giggles😂
Do the higher settings feel kinda boosty and artificial? The sport buttons on most euro cars change the throttle mapping in a similar way to the vitesses but as a result the throttle becomes twitchy and feels unnatural and boosty.
Crazy man I've been looking for something like this thanks man.
+john T No problem.
These things are becoming more popular and my only concern is now someone lets say in a charger r/t (those people already think they're faster than a hellcat) wil have it and be even more annoying next to you at a light trying to mess with your your discount.
I was going to get my throttle body ported, headers, catch can, and headers but when I called the place back asking about the pedal commander they tried to talk me out of it smh. I'm like i don't need all of that with the p c.
What's your opinion??
Does your SS have driving modes stock like the mustang GT... Normal.. sport... Raining/snow etc
Which mainly changes throttle response n traction control
Yes. But it’s more than throttle, it changes exhaust, suspension and throttle response
@@Lethalgarage my bad I worded it wrong..
U are correct steering, throttle etc
Was just making sure if I bought some thing like this it would make a difference n not just be a waste of money due to the fact I could switch the driver mode n get a faster throttle response
TJ TJ Even on Sport (which is actually touchier than Track) there is still plenty of “lag”.
This drive looked like fun!!! Hey sledge does this void the warranty? Thinking about it for the V6
Getting one for my 16 gt. debating on trading my gt for a 1le but will see what my insurance company says. I only want it for the performance though. I like my gt's interior much more and overall looks but I only drive the gt when I'm out having fun so having the 1le suspension would be nice.
So all what you have to do is plug in to obd2 port? Or i need tools and playing with some cable?
Brother I got it one after install it check engine light on is there any way we can fix the issue thanks
Nice vid I’m looking to get a camaro. I’m use to driving a Nissan Altima but when I revd the camaro the throttle seemed much less sensitive. Would you recommend this mod for a new buyer of the camraro?
Does this eliminate the dead-zone you get in the peddle? Do you still use this on your Camaro?
+metalmeltdown31 yes and yes
no, Not on auto trans
It sure as hell does. I'm running this on my 2011 Camaro SS w/ the 6-speed auto. It makes a huge difference.
Great channel. Do u still have the throttle control on your car. Is there a brand you recommend?
Awesome keep these camaro videos coming lol. Cant wait to get mine :D
So it makes it more responsive but is power delivery linear? Like does the % of throttle corresponds to how much you're pushing the pedal or is 100% power right away?
It ramps up.
MrPotato16: Someone (Engineering Explained?) did a video showing a graph of throttle response - stock & Vitesse in SP9. The stock graph showed almost none for the first 5-10% and a trough in the 35-60% range - set by factory for emissions and fuel economy. The Vitesse was absolutely linear - like the cable throttles of bygone days...
What's better this or the pedal commander? Can't seem to find this in Canada.
great video man! when i got mine after the 1st week isaid screw it and started mashing that throttle. i mean if you plan on modifying the vehicle theres no need to baby it
It never hurts to follow the outlined break-in. ;)
I just got mines from someone from Gen 6 Camaro forums; it's currently being shipped. I'm curious though, what's the difference between Vitesse and JMS? JMS cost alot more at retail price.
so is it essentially telling the ecu that you are flooring the car when you aren't? is that how it's speeding it up? that would explain why actually flooring the throttle makes the difference go away.
+pleb I wouldn't say flooring it, but it is telling to ecu to apply WoT faster up front.
Thx for the review! Does it mislead the nanies on the car and potentially put you in dangerous situation due to that? Also what about the warranty since need to be recognize (recorded?) by the ECU as per installation procedure? Thanks
The device isn't changing the ECU, so no change is recorded. it simply changes how quickly the voltage on the stock pedal is sent. so instead of mashing on your pedal to go, you barely have to hit the pedal at all.
Are you still have the Vitesse Throttle Controller on your car? If not why did you remove it and did you ever have any problems with it? Thank in advance for the update......
Is it getting rid of the so-called lag or is it just increasing the %throttle commanded for the same pedal position? If it is the latter then this is a waste of money.
In planning on getting this as the first mod for my G8. Anyone have any idea how that'll be or how it'll interact with any other mods?
Any thoughts/opinions on the controller causing "limp mode"?
Your Camaro is an automatic right? How are the paddle shifters?
I've got to have this... putting in an order now. :D
Could you do a review with the pedal Commander sometime?
would I have to buy a new throttle body to use the VTC or can I just use the one from GM?
+Rafael Fameboy you would use the stock one.
Very good review! You should get a commission, just bought one due to your video!
+fier23 lol. Yeah that would be cool ;)
Are you still using the controller, and what setting is normally used? I'd be worried about light touches on the gas when in parking lots and around pedestrians.
No, once the car got a real tune it was removed
LethalGarage Now, that is some really useful information. Glad I kept scrolling the comments to find that nugget.
ok i was just wondering it's gonna be a Dyno tune by futral motorsports thanks for responding
+John Glaviano In general it's a tune that will be based on how your car performs on a dyno. Overall the best tune is one that logs data from real world driving.
You used the term "housing area". I've only heard that used on military bases. Prior service member? Good vid btw.
Unfortunately no, but did study to be an architect.
Is this more for stock non tuned cars or good even if you have a tune?
This is Gera for stock cars. Do not put this on a built tuned car.
@@LethalgarageMy car is stock with a 93 octane Diablosport canned tune. Will this do harm?
hey man do you think it will affect the mpg? probably right?
also does the exhaust sound more aggressive?
exhaust sounds slightly more aggressive as the throttle is reacting quicker than stock. More RPM's quicker = more exhaust and sound.
if anything it gives you better control of your throttle which in turn will most likely yield better over all gas mileage.
Hey would adding this void the warranty? And did you install it yourself or did you get it done? thanks
+drexloc No, this will not void the warranty, and It is a 10min install I did on my own.
thanks
Hey Matt if you still have this I thought in a newer vid you said it was on a shelf but if you would sell it let me know
+Johnny Contreras Have a few people already wanting it. If they fall through I'll let you know
How tall are you? Looking to buy this car but not sure how I will measure up inside it, we're about the same body type. Thanks man and great freaking car!
+notaloka28 6'5"
Great video! Keep it up, I'm subscribed! Can't wait to get a 6 gen
+Chris Carver Thanks for the Sub! More to come!
Great Video!!! Thanks for the info!! My car ships 9 OCT to Germany. I really appreciate your passion for the Camaro!
+John Drummond Thanks for the support John.
How will it work on a 2018 camaro 3.6?
This specific device is setup for the SS, not sure if they offer it for the LT
Will this one void my warranty? I have the 2017 camaro 1ss manual
Thanks man
+Astiginbro it's shouldn't
i just bought the RS/1lt v6 i was impressed with how well it ran.. does this thing actually make a difference? i think i might pick one up here this week
I personally say yes. I felt the difference from the moment I put it on SP06. I will say, I have already gotten fairly use to it.
nice, i think im gonna order one i know it doesn't change the power but a crisper throttle makes a big difference for sure.. i just bought mine so i haven't done anything to it yet exhaust soon im just trying to make my mind up on which one to get i like a deeper tone and i hear the factory intake breaths as good as an aftermarket just drop a k&n in there and your good but i don't know
it is a v6 and i didn't buy it to race just cruise but as car guys we never stop at stock lol..
+Brian Knox Factory intake is limiting on the SS, not sure about the LT. When I was at the dyno, we opened the stock air box up and did a run and saw a 20HP increase. these engines want more air.
+Brian Knox It's all about putting your finger print on your car.
yup.. iv'e built a few street car's but nothing this new so it's new territory for me but it's a great car
I just installed it on my 2012 Camaro, just wondering if the unit stays on all the time?
+Johnny LeBron No, it auto stops pulling power based on the auxiliary power distribution.
Thanks, I figured it out, just sat that for a few and made sure it turned off.
I have the revhigh 4.0 version goes upto sp13 it's crazy on that setting lol
how much do you think the price will drop to in august FOR A 2SS??
+greenshot321 Depends on supply and demand. I think the price will remain the same, but how much dealers will sell them for is another story.
how does it affect the paddle shifters? does it eliminate the delay between shifts?
+Preston Mitcham It doesn't affect shifting, only the feeling of instant power when pushing the gas pedal.
Lethal thanks for the info! Love the channel, love the car, love your Instagram.
+Preston Mitcham Thanks Preston.
hey Lethal. Will installing this throttle controller affect warranty?
+Thomas Nguyen depending on your dealer it could.
are you still using this everyday although its been around 4 months since installation? Thank you
+Afif I am. Have it set at SP5
Great! thank you sir.
when you set an SPS mode ( say 5) do you need to set it again each time you switch Driver Modes?
+KapitanPoop if you want it to change, yes.
Lethal but will stay at say SPS 5 otherwise no matter what river mode unless you change it? Do u find the river mode still changes the throttle map to make SPS5 feel different?
+KapitanPoop Uup, it will stay the same as the VC isn't tied to your ECU. Yes the feel.would change pending the drive mode I was in within the car.
thats awesome... so you can tune out hte throttle delay and set a new normal while the Dirver modes will still adjust it as GM intended... slapping this thing on Day 1!
@@Lethalgarage love love your videos guy and trust your honest opinion..
...got a 2016 atsv...love it....not looking to race but to play..and not blow my extended warraty or cpo..can i or shld consider this vittros throttle and or the K&N cold air intake mods/upgrade..and what does that do for me.......vs what i am kinda considering which is zzp mods (stage1 and new exasut muffler)
Sorry for long winded question..but do so look forward to your response!
this may be stupid to ask but does this mod work with a manual car?
im pretty sure it doesnt but just wanted to know
hey Bro, maybe you could do (if you are willing) an instructional video of removing the backseats? as you know... backseats are useless lol. maybe since you have little kids you could still use the backseats. Ive always wanted to see if I am able to remove the backseats and how. thanks!
Pull the tab on the top and place you hand like in the bottom seam between the top and bottom half of the seat and lift up. its quite easy
"Break-ins" aren't really needed on today's engines. Manufacturers put it there just to cover their butt in case a bolt falls off or the software fails etc.
+hydroboy35th With a monster with this much HP, It's always good to follow the guidelines outlined.
well I couldn't wait. Car still driving fine(to the best of my knowledge). When the engine finally was broken in, my camaro sounded louder and responded more aggressively. there is really a difference from showroom and 1500 miles later.
Break-in for every engine.
Gotta get one bro!!
you should do a follow up vid with it mounted
yeah... working on that. Not sure where this bad boy is going to mount in the long run.
Matt, Will this void my warranty on my 2017 SS Camero ? Because I brought an extended warranty. Ray
Ray Delfa most dealerships say it will
I dont see how it could? It doesn't mess with the ECU....or change timing,
for those who cannot install themselves where can i take it to have it installed? im located in Los Angeles
+Willis McGillis Just about any Performamce shop can do it for you. 1hr of labor should cover it.
I wonder if the controller can be stacked with tune
+John Glaviano It can be. But if you tune the ECU's throttle control, you really have no need for this. If they leave the throttle control untouched you can get this. But you're buying a tune, you should ask them to adjust the ecu and throttle control.
lethal.. do u think I can use this for the 2.0 turbo
You can.
Is your motor broken in and if so, canyou do a full take off at sp9 ?
+Brandon Zingarelli I'll spin tires into 4th gear....
Holy cow! That's insane! Good to know for the future!
Can’t wait till I Have my own car
How long your took to come ?
Has anybody figured out the launch control wires ??
I wonder how much of a difference this makes on a tuned manual
+WackoKillerDan If your going to tune your car, bypass this mod and tune your ECU for the throttle control. The only down side is you can adjust it with a tune, the tune is set in stone, while this you can crank up and down as you feel with a touch of a button.
Where do you have you controller mounted on thinking about getting one
+Phantom Menace703 right under my steering wheel
Ok did you have to drill any holes ?
I just got the Pedal Commander for my GT Mustang. Same principle of getting rid of un-wanted throttle delay and i was blown away..i also did a review. check out my latest if you get a chance...I enjoyed your Video,.,,,,Keep up the great work
How easy is this to remove? I am assuming this is will break your warranty
Very Easy.
does it break warranty?
No, it doesn't connect to the ECU so the dealer can't see any record of it like they can with a tune.
LethalGarage do you think this is bad for the engine?
Nope, your not actually changing anything to the engine.
Is this available for the 2016 Camaro V6 manual?
+Emmanuel Fisher Of course.
I know it's been a long while since you posted this video, do you still bother running this with your latest setup? Would you still recommend to someone if their plans are to build the car up full exhaust, intake manifold, cams etc?
I removed it after I tuned my car.
Do it work if u have your car tune already?
No
Seems like driving with different shoes on, starting with a flip flop and moving on up to a heavy concrete overshoe
+Subscribed. Great video. You've talked me into having this on my 2015 Camaro SS :) Enjoy the car!
+Chris Avila (SS Daddy) Thanks for checking out the video.
Will you get a faster 0-60 with this?
+ANONYMOUS Technically you should off the line.
Any warranty concerns with this mod?
+Alexander McC I don't have any.
what is the recommended break in ?how many miles?
1500 miles
I believe in the break in period and all. But it is sorta myth, Hennessy the performance company just released a video of the new 2017 zl1 and he brought the car to around 173 with 29 miles on the car. He then explained why he doesnt believe in the break in theory. Im not sure what to believe I drive a 2017 2ss and I drive it pretty normally no real extreme use yet...
Does it void the warranty?
yes
11hatemenow: No, it doesn't. If I need service, I just set to SP0 and unplug, hide controller.
Also I know you're still in the honeymoon phase of ownership but how crazy bad is the visibility really? Does it drive you nuts or do you get used to it?
I don't get the complaints of visibility. I can see out and around and behind out of all windows. yes it has blond spots, but so does my other car. maybe it is just short people with issues?
Mathew Everett That's great to hear. I've yet to sit in one but that's the first thing any one ever says. From what I've read it sounds like it's going to be a reliable car. They even thought of putting in a air/oil separator. Not something a lot of companies have bothered with doing yet.
+Saniel Dingleton They did put nice rear alerts and cross traffic sensing and side mirror blind spot indicators. so... if you do have issues seeing, the tech side covers you.
+Saniel Dingleton the camaro has terrible blind spots compared to a sedan or truck you gotta realy tilt your head and im 6.0ft. the window pillar in front blocks visability too so you need to watch out for pedestrians or traffic coming to the side but its a sacrifice you take for having a cool camaro. In my honesty get the new 16 models the interior is much better and the car is lighter, i love my 12 camaro but chevy didnt really add any new tech in it.
Rodriguez123 Rodriguez Thanks for the info. I'm going to wait until a couple used ones come on the market and then I might snatch one up. I work from home so it would purely be a weekend cruiser.
A good wake up tune will do the same thing there are a lot of other tables besides the TB blade delay that can be remedied giving you the power that the engine can and should be delivering from the factory. + mileage + a couple extra HP. But if your worried about warranty I'm sure they wont like that little Vitesse box.
A good starter tune would cost around $200 and net more benefits. Just read around EFI live forums or HP tuners...
Its spoofing the throttle controls and that isn't a good idea any way.
As far as break in if its done right it wont take more than 50 miles then change your oil. www.gmtruckcentral.com/articles/break_in.html
Is that just for automatic
How long is the break in period?
+Riyadh Al Fanikh 1,500 miles per the GM manual.
would this be a waste of money if I'm doing a Dyno tune????
+John Glaviano If your tune changes the throttle response, yes. Most tunes do touch those settings.
Is this available for the v6??
iCUMinYourPussy69 yes
iCUMinYourPussy69 did you get it ?
Got a link.
Will adding this void the warranty?
+zachary norton Honestly Not sure. But considering it doesn't change the ecu or the safe range the car should operate within. I don't think so.
Ok thanks mat
Do you get faster 0-60 and 1/4 mile times?
Not that I am aware.
+Lethalhammer thanks
+gentlemonsterkennels will test it out. Best 0-60 I have gotten was 3.87 before I installed it.
+Lethalhammer damn!!!! That is nutts!! I just got back from the dealer. I had to check these out. On video, I though the back looked funky. In real life, it looks good. Entire car looked good! Only bad thing is that this is for my wife and visibility is an issue with her. She has problem with visibility in my 2012 mustang gt and that car's visibility is really good!
+gentlemonsterkennels Back in 2014 when Vitesse did a pre-sale on these, I was one of the first one's to order and was highly skeptical of their claims. Myself and a few camaro5 members (pooty, rtcatman) did some street and track testing with this device and it DID improve 0-60 times and 60ft times at the track. I was going to return the device if it did not do anything but it had the most noticeable improvement of any mod that I did so I kept it. After I sold my 5th gen and got a 6th gen SS, I had to have it again so I bought another.