The Gibson MIII was also 25 1/2" scale. Awesome guitars. Can't believe I sold mine a few years ago. I got pretty excited when I saw the victory had been released, but it would be more appealing to me if Gibson had kept their more traditional 24 3/4" scale.
For me an 80's style shredder has to have a Floyd Rose and I also don't care for the pick guard, but that is just a matter of personal taste. Gibson gets criticized for living off the past and not introducing new products. I don't think bringing back a previously failed model addresses that critique, but if people are asking for these, it is good that they listened. Personally, this one is not for me, but I hope it is successful for them this time around. BTW, the background is pretty funny. Promoting a new Gibson release with a freezer like box that says Play Fender Since 1846. That got a chuckle out of me.
Cult classic? We couldn’t give them away at the shop I worked at when they were originally introduced in the early 80s. It will be interesting to see if anyone cares today.
@@zaccarter3801 I think his point is that no shredder would pick that thing today, so it sits in a weird spot and makes the marketing somewhat awkward.
@@vuri3798 fair but this guitar has a similar approach to design as a PRS does. It’s about the versatility it offers or it would have fanned frets, maybe a floating trem, and active pickups. Dont let the guitar fool you though: slim taper, compound radius, ebony fretboard, body contouring, explorer headstock, and ranging from 6.9-7.5 lbs. this guitar can get it done. I’ll say this, since shredders and prog rock players typically use active pickups and digital setups, there’s not really a reason to buy made in USA guitars. Between modeling and the distinct tone of active pickups, you are really just looking for a neck you like and to stay in tune for drop tunings. You can do that for about $600-1,000. Hot take but the only reason to get expensive guitars is for expensive+traditional rigs. This guitar would sound killer no doubt. Up to the player of it makes sense from a price perspective. If you wanted PRS, you can get this guitar and swap in 85/15s for less than a price of a new custom 24 and have hundreds of $$$ left over.
@@zaccarter3801Yeah right, I'm sure it plays like a PRS custom out of the box 😂. And has the same quality control. I would be impressed if this can hang with a PRS S2/SE...Core series? Only things that can hang with those is ESP Original Series/Custom shop.
I can see this doing well - Maybe it’s found its time. The TOM bridge will work for the modern down tuners and it looks slightly quirky. The pickups are terrible though.
we agree. it would be very cool to see this in a Metalcore or Doom setting with its full 25.5" scale and the slim neck would do well there. to each their own, the pickups can easily be changed!
I actually hate Gibson's current management, overpricing guitars that were historically cheaper (V and Explorer namely), whilst putting out guitars than no one ever asked for (Theodore and this). Even with all the quality and innovation issues of Henry's era, he was far better than Cesar, who seems to be forcing his old-head passion project on every Gibson fan, whilst rinsing their wallets like no one else has before.
@@gregputman Maybe a few people want this, but I bet you at least half of them are well to do collectors, not musicians. These people seem to be the new management’s core targeted demographic now, and I think that’s quite appalling.
Featuring medium jumbo frets that we’ve ground down in our PLEK machine that was last calibrated when W was president. So they won’t be as playable as a 600 buck import guitar. Jesus what a mess.
Epiphone should do a Prophecy version of this guitar. Ditch the ugly pickguard, put some Fishmans in it. The TOM bridge is fine. It might just sell. This will not.
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You know you’re old when you remember the original on stores.
Would love to see the Marauder rerelease
These sound really good
The Gibson MIII was also 25 1/2" scale. Awesome guitars. Can't believe I sold mine a few years ago. I got pretty excited when I saw the victory had been released, but it would be more appealing to me if Gibson had kept their more traditional 24 3/4" scale.
Damn boaa.. it's beautiful
Ah Gibson releasing something that's actually exciting
So is the price. Ah - ha - ha - he.😃
As much as I love Les Paul’s. Gibson wasn’t even on my radar in the 80’s. I was all about shredding. Jackson, Ibanez, Kramer and such.
nothing screams "80s' shredder" like a tune o matic bridge😵💫
HEH
IKR they should have put a Bigsby on it what were they thinkin
Amazing guitar...
Ooh ooh boi
For me an 80's style shredder has to have a Floyd Rose and I also don't care for the pick guard, but that is just a matter of personal taste. Gibson gets criticized for living off the past and not introducing new products. I don't think bringing back a previously failed model addresses that critique, but if people are asking for these, it is good that they listened. Personally, this one is not for me, but I hope it is successful for them this time around. BTW, the background is pretty funny. Promoting a new Gibson release with a freezer like box that says Play Fender Since 1846. That got a chuckle out of me.
Me too ! 🤣
Great video Jordo
thanks pal!
Anyone else not remember these from the 80s? Maybe they should have redone the Schon. This looks similar.
I only remember the US 1 from the 80s
Some Gibson archtops are 25.5” scale. The L-5 and Citation for instance.
M-III as well.
Looks really nice. Wonder what the price Will be in EU
Hi yaw!!
Looks like Neal Schons guitar! Always wanted one of those. These seem PRS-ish but with more metal vibe.
doesnt resemble the Schon guitar at all.
Cult classic? We couldn’t give them away at the shop I worked at when they were originally introduced in the early 80s. It will be interesting to see if anyone cares today.
Just like the RD series guitars, you could not give them away at the time, but somehow they finally caught on....40+ years later
Looks sweet, headstock rips, nice specs 🤷🏻♂️
Someone doesn’t know what Cult Classic means 😂😂 Clown
Like a lot of Gibsons they released them way to early, the Strat love now a days will probably help
At 2K a pop, there are way better options available
Gibson RD had a fender scale length as well
OH yeah. so true!
There's a lot of live footage of Ray Davies of the Kinks using a blue Victory in the early 80s.
I always thought the basses looked great.
whoa thats cool! gotta look that up
@@themusiczoo
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This guitar is cool, I think that if Gibson wanted to bring back a cult classic for a modern audience they would have offered it in multi scale.
would you say there is a significant sound difference on the Maple top model?
Who can tell, with that much distortion?
Design from the past. Specs from the past.
lol what? The figured top is essentially a PRS custom 24 for $1,000+ less.
@@zaccarter3801 honestly...good point!
@@zaccarter3801 I think his point is that no shredder would pick that thing today, so it sits in a weird spot and makes the marketing somewhat awkward.
@@vuri3798 fair but this guitar has a similar approach to design as a PRS does. It’s about the versatility it offers or it would have fanned frets, maybe a floating trem, and active pickups. Dont let the guitar fool you though: slim taper, compound radius, ebony fretboard, body contouring, explorer headstock, and ranging from 6.9-7.5 lbs. this guitar can get it done. I’ll say this, since shredders and prog rock players typically use active pickups and digital setups, there’s not really a reason to buy made in USA guitars. Between modeling and the distinct tone of active pickups, you are really just looking for a neck you like and to stay in tune for drop tunings. You can do that for about $600-1,000. Hot take but the only reason to get expensive guitars is for expensive+traditional rigs. This guitar would sound killer no doubt. Up to the player of it makes sense from a price perspective. If you wanted PRS, you can get this guitar and swap in 85/15s for less than a price of a new custom 24 and have hundreds of $$$ left over.
@@zaccarter3801Yeah right, I'm sure it plays like a PRS custom out of the box 😂. And has the same quality control.
I would be impressed if this can hang with a PRS S2/SE...Core series? Only things that can hang with those is ESP Original Series/Custom shop.
I cant wait untill firefly drops their batch for like $200
does this model have fret nibs?
Pausing the video at 1:34, there are no nibs.
Shadow Banned
Is Gibson a Victory bass too , they sold more basses then the guitar back in the day😮
If only they did. A rear route so you wouldn’t have a pickguard
I can see this doing well - Maybe it’s found its time. The TOM bridge will work for the modern down tuners and it looks slightly quirky. The pickups are terrible though.
we agree. it would be very cool to see this in a Metalcore or Doom setting with its full 25.5" scale and the slim neck would do well there. to each their own, the pickups can easily be changed!
I actually hate Gibson's current management, overpricing guitars that were historically cheaper (V and Explorer namely), whilst putting out guitars than no one ever asked for (Theodore and this). Even with all the quality and innovation issues of Henry's era, he was far better than Cesar, who seems to be forcing his old-head passion project on every Gibson fan, whilst rinsing their wallets like no one else has before.
There are quite a few people hoping for a Victory reissue. It's just one of those quirky models that started to catch on 40+ years later
@@gregputman Maybe a few people want this, but I bet you at least half of them are well to do collectors, not musicians. These people seem to be the new management’s core targeted demographic now, and I think that’s quite appalling.
excitement level is 0. Something WAYY cooler can be had for $2000-2500 bucks. A 'shredder' guitar with no tremolo? yea-no.
Husbandry!!!
we got a real one right here folks!
Anything with an explorer headstock is cool in my opinion 🫤
hell yeaaaaah
Bring back Sonex
I just dont dig the Explorer headstock on this, the original was better, also dont dig the pickguard, too pointy and bat-wingy.
Those pickups do not impress in any of the release videos.
Right? Kind of blurry sounding, also sounds like a cocked wah.
Agreed! They sound really muddy..
I like them
They sound quite dull with moderate distortion.
Shame on you for doing a Gibson introduction in front of a big gaudy fender sign. Shame I say.
81 wasn’t the shredder era that came later.
Trying to compete w PRS
This body style predated PRS
Kinda cool , but every video ive watched , the pickups sound so " Harsh "...
Harsh and dull. The ‘57s sound waaaayyy better.
they should have stuck with the original headstock design. it is way cooler than this.
Featuring medium jumbo frets that we’ve ground down in our PLEK machine that was last calibrated when W was president. So they won’t be as playable as a 600 buck import guitar. Jesus what a mess.
I buy gibsons so i don't have to have a 25.5" scale...I'm out.
Its 2024....make clean routes and body mount the humbuckers.
Pfffsh okay virgin.
And again no lefthanded options 🤷🏻♂️
God and Gibson hate lefties! Fender hates them too!!
God and Gibson hate lefties! Fender hates them too!!
God and Gibson hate lefties! Fender hates them too!!
…………God and Gibson hate lefties! Fender hates them too!!
Epiphone should do a Prophecy version of this guitar. Ditch the ugly pickguard, put some Fishmans in it. The TOM bridge is fine.
It might just sell.
This will not.
Great $800 guitars. Unfortunately..........
All due respect but-- pretty hideous guitar.
Horrible
:(
Looks ugly.
🤮
Love gibson but gonna have to pass on this one… giving off too many Jackson vibes
fair enough!
PRS should sue Gibson for a patent infringement.
for what!?
@@woofcity6307 sure, similar - however the Victory is originally from '81, so you're seeing how perhaps something like that influenced the Vela!
Files litigation on every company with similar shapes, then Gibson releases a guitar with strat style horns, lol.
Except that these originally came out long before PRS