Since Covid, I’ve insanely rarely bought any boxes or anything other than singles. The prices just don’t even come close to what you can pull most of the time. It’s just not worth it and honestly the same as burning your money in your backyard.
Yeah I’m in the same boat, I started getting into collecting hockey cards right before 2020 and didn’t know “hobby” boxes were a thing until I started watching this channel in the middle of 2020. I only got boxes at my local Walmart occasionally. I stopped after I seen how high prices are for hobby, it’s a fucking joke. I bought two fat packs on a big sale a year ago and that was it.
@@odeszaa..I just look for singles, Eg. Hall of Famer rookies(no matter the sport), or guys who’ll be in the Hall that are still playing. If you’re looking at slabs, look around 7’s to 10’s. There’s plenty out there for decent prices. Even base cards of Hall of Famers are worth it. With new cards you’re paying Extra for the card stock.
UD hopefully loses the license soon. The price points & ROI just never even come close. Considering they increased printing substantially, without any QC improvements, it's a bad beat. Hoping something changes soon, because it's a joke now.
You think if fanatics takes over making hockey products the price will come down because I can tell you it won’t they are only in it to make money. They don’t give a shit about the average collector
Hockey prices are absolutely horrific at this point. Still remember all retail formats being $10/YG between blasters, retail boxes, and tins. I understand some increase with inflation, but at this point I may just be OPC only for a while.
Yep, it was bad enough when I was paying $10 an autograph in some football draft pick blasters in 2016 and now I’m supposed to pay $20 US a Young Gun? Totally ridiculous. The only thing I will buy will be series 2 retail as sit on it for about 10 years for Bedard and the rest of the crop. I have no competition where I live for hockey retail. If the crop pans out then the unopened tins and blasters will increase in value and if he doesn’t then I’ll open it all up. I did this with 15-16 retail but it also was a lot cheaper.
@carolinatarheels7903 Best of luck in the hunt. Biggest hurdle for me to deadstock Series 2 is the entry price. $60 for a tin. I'm sure they'll go up, but it's not like getting 5 2015-16 blasters for $100
Tins were always the best bang for the buck option. I used to always buy a bunch when they were $30-40, this price hike is ridiculous, especially when theres so many terrible Young Guns in the crop
I loved the tins. I would buy as many as I could. But looks like UD took a meeting with Panini and made their product junk/worthless on top of boning their consumers on price. I won’t be buying a single tin or blaster from 2023, that’s for sure
Edit... I found a few 22-23 tins for $15ea. The store is Meijer so idk if it's smart, should I drop some coin? I think it's a no brainer based on what y'all are saying I will be buying a couple. Thanks
Don’t worry, the retail and the hobby will go down significantly if no one pans out from this series. Series 1 hobby from last year is already down to $65 US a box.
These are $60.00 at my Walmart in NY. Still too much. I bought a blaster and it was weird opening 3 packs. I will continue to buy old product for super cheap compared to this.
Walmart is selling these tins for $100(with tax), seems a lil excessive. I Literally laughed out loud at the store when I saw this because someone had actually bought one. I would not pay a penny over $45 for that crap lol. I am starting to lose interest in even watching rips/breaks.
I just bought 2 of these because I saw them in Target. The price wasn't listed, I was suprised at the register when they rang up $60 each. I should have waited for Series 2 for a chance at Bedard.
Makes ya sit and think a while. I remember all the pricing you talk about. I must have got lucky with the tins. Followed hobby box config and I got 8 young guns in 2 tins.
Price is silly for only 3 Ygs hopefully goes down rather buy a hobby box and get six YGs but at $150 is crazy thanks for sharing Zeree hope you pull Bedard in series one and Yg or better in series two
Get these at a show or through your LCS, it will be a lot easier on your wallet. I picked up a couple of tins on Nov.1 (release day) for just over the wholesale price (CDN$50) through one of my suppliers.
NFL and NBA cards were about triple for the same 'type' of NHL products..obviously because of supply and demand...but now theyre only double...NHL cards are 33% more expensive than they should be comparitively speaking..
Years ago I used to have a Target store where the vendor never opened the full 24 pack retail boxes, I would take them up to the self checkouts with a $20 blaster and scan the blaster for every full retail box I bought. They finally caught on when the packs sold weren’t matching their quantity.
These tins used to an approachable price point, esp for parents with less money who still want their kids to have a decent card opening experience. The Upperdeck monopoly SUCKS for the hobby.
series 2 hobby box presale at my local dave and adams is 300 dollars just to not get bedard, lord knows there's times where you need 10-15 boxes to finally pull the it guy, its insanity, how can they do that right off the bat?? I'm quitting, selling my cards and only buying singles and 90s junk wax
Posted odds do not equal a guarantee! Although UD tries to put a YG in every fourth pack, that is not what odds techhnicaly means. The boxes also now say shit happens and if you don't get one - too bad! Buying Tins at this price when Hobby is still reasonable is just insane!!!!!
I'm done buying series 2. I just started watching people rip packs for the 1st time right after series 2 came out. Didn't watch any series 1 till just now. Kinda like them better & they're way cheaper from what saw at the hobby shop i went to today. I might dive into them. I'm not 100% sure yet.
I pre ordered a case of series 2 tins. I was going to pre order a case of hobby for $2000. Eventually I couldn't find one available. When I did, they wanted over $3000 for the pre order. It wouldn't shock me if series 2 hobby will be around $300 a box.
@@dub1681 yeah i got lucky and managed to snag a case of hobby box for 173$ cad avg per box so around 2000 plus tax but my local card shop stopped taking pre orders (he barely took 5-6) and now is waiting to see what the trend is he told me. Wouldn’t be surprised to see 300$+ a box for sure
Considering what was just pulled, the price point for those tins is absolutely insane. Complete madness . Don't even want to know what series 2 is going to be like. Good grief
At what point will UD just start selling “hit packs”. Spare me all this base. Zeeree could literally heat his home all winter just off the base from upper deck. Epack is kind of that, but it doesn’t give you the same sensation as ripping. Gimme like 3 packs with 3 cards each.
I bought a tin at walmart for 59 dollars yesterday here in AZ I got three young Guns & I got a decent young Gun in Dustin Wolf. I was overall happy with it I would of rather payed like $30 or 40 but I just wanted to try it. I won’t be buying series 2 to rich for my blood.
Screw the whole “they should be $40 or $50” lol they should be $30 US. I don’t see the appeal, Hobby is the 100% the best choice, I’m not paying an extra $40 for more inserts and retail exclusives lmao
Cmon zeeree i know you mean good and everything youre collection is great but but the prices of this years ud is ridiculous you should comment on that youre opinion matters alot in this community
So you pay $90 per tin, pull mid YG’s, and a bunch of filler and you’re fine. But you pull retro rookie autos and you lose your shit? This hobby is so backwards
The fact that five to ten years down the road the boxes and tins will be 10x to 20x their retail worth. You are better off buying them and putting them in storage.
For certain years, yes. Especially when the tins were $25 and in some cases $15 on clearance. I bought a ton of 15-16 series 1 and 2 blasters and tins when they came out and they have gone up in value substantially because of McDavid. Even 19-20 you could buy entire tin and blaster cases for less than $200 on close outs and those are going up because of the Hughes boys and Makar. The problem is this years tins will not, they are already too high for and SRP and the Young Guns are all carryovers with limited potential. Series 2 might be worth sitting on for 10 years if Upper Deck doesn’t raise the SRP because of Bedard.
They're just getting people used to the price so once Bedard series 2 drops people will already know price. Aaaanddd its sold out in every retail even with the price increase
If you look at u look at series 1 and spa ,you have like only 20 to 25 % of breaking even or making money,the price of the young guns us way too low for the cost of a hobby box or tin.Its ridiculous.
@@scottgunn9978 maybe that english is not my first language and who cares about orthograph mistakes seriously this is a hockey cards channel not a english class channel......
spend $90 a tin or $150 a hobby box in hopes of MAYBE hitting a $65 card (hughes) lol (excluding the rare hits that you're highly unlikely to see). something aint right with those numbers.
That’s what collectors of baseball, football and basketball have been seeing ever since 2020. Buying $300 hobby boxes and maybe getting $50 at the most in value. Yet they keep buying everything up and will never learn.
I bought 1 hobby box and 3 single packs. Pulled ridley and 2 luke hughes gonna trade my luke hughes for a matthew knies and I am done with this product. I also wonr be buying series 2 based on rumors of pricing.
Love zeeree but my experinece with cloutsnchara was horrible. Bad pricing, bad handling of cards, unrealistic randoms, and really hate how they treat cards we pay for even when it's a giant hit. Anyone who doesn't respect the handling of the hobby isn't a breaker for me and how I want my cards cared for.
Sure they will, they always do because there is no Bedard in this series and a carryover Young Gun crop. I’m still buying 21-22 all series for $10 a blaster at Target and the vendor keeps bringing more to the shelves.
Good bye upper deck, your retail products have ruined your name and reputation. You've lost another customer for life. Getting outta the hobby because of all the vultures
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Since Covid, I’ve insanely rarely bought any boxes or anything other than singles. The prices just don’t even come close to what you can pull most of the time. It’s just not worth it and honestly the same as burning your money in your backyard.
😬🤔...."insanely rarely"...???
Might be oxymoronic...or a double entendre.
Yeah I’m in the same boat, I started getting into collecting hockey cards right before 2020 and didn’t know “hobby” boxes were a thing until I started watching this channel in the middle of 2020. I only got boxes at my local Walmart occasionally. I stopped after I seen how high prices are for hobby, it’s a fucking joke. I bought two fat packs on a big sale a year ago and that was it.
@@odeszaa..I just look for singles, Eg. Hall of Famer rookies(no matter the sport), or guys who’ll be in the Hall that are still playing. If you’re looking at slabs, look around 7’s to 10’s. There’s plenty out there for decent prices. Even base cards of Hall of Famers are worth it. With new cards you’re paying Extra for the card stock.
Totally agree. I was just looking at the last time I bought a box. Feb 2019.
@@odeszaa I would go to hobby shops to get them way cheaper if there's any in your area
What do you do with your base? Warm the home? Random bonfires? Donate to kids? Metric frickton is an understatement of base UD cards you must have
UD hopefully loses the license soon. The price points & ROI just never even come close. Considering they increased printing substantially, without any QC improvements, it's a bad beat. Hoping something changes soon, because it's a joke now.
You think if fanatics takes over making hockey products the price will come down because I can tell you it won’t they are only in it to make money. They don’t give a shit about the average collector
Hockey prices are absolutely horrific at this point. Still remember all retail formats being $10/YG between blasters, retail boxes, and tins. I understand some increase with inflation, but at this point I may just be OPC only for a while.
Yep, it was bad enough when I was paying $10 an autograph in some football draft pick blasters in 2016 and now I’m supposed to pay $20 US a Young Gun? Totally ridiculous. The only thing I will buy will be series 2 retail as sit on it for about 10 years for Bedard and the rest of the crop. I have no competition where I live for hockey retail. If the crop pans out then the unopened tins and blasters will increase in value and if he doesn’t then I’ll open it all up. I did this with 15-16 retail but it also was a lot cheaper.
@carolinatarheels7903 Best of luck in the hunt. Biggest hurdle for me to deadstock Series 2 is the entry price. $60 for a tin. I'm sure they'll go up, but it's not like getting 5 2015-16 blasters for $100
Tins were always the best bang for the buck option. I used to always buy a bunch when they were $30-40, this price hike is ridiculous, especially when theres so many terrible Young Guns in the crop
Honestly it's a stack crop if the flames trio pans out. Plus Hughes
I loved the tins. I would buy as many as I could. But looks like UD took a meeting with Panini and made their product junk/worthless on top of boning their consumers on price.
I won’t be buying a single tin or blaster from 2023, that’s for sure
Edit... I found a few 22-23 tins for $15ea. The store is Meijer so idk if it's smart, should I drop some coin? I think it's a no brainer based on what y'all are saying
I will be buying a couple. Thanks
@@cazschiller tins are an automatic buy, if they are $30 or less
Probably see price drops for Black Friday, so customers see it as a great deal.
lol they think we are delusional because we continue to buy the product. We gotta all boycott this shit until the fix it.
Don’t worry, the retail and the hobby will go down significantly if no one pans out from this series. Series 1 hobby from last year is already down to $65 US a box.
I live in the US and saw those priced at $60US at the Best Pals store. That was an easy pass for me.
These are my fav format for years of all retail. I won’t touch them at 60. Hard pass
These are $60.00 at my Walmart in NY.
Still too much.
I bought a blaster and it was weird opening 3 packs.
I will continue to buy old product for super cheap compared to this.
I think Zeree pays in canadian dollars though so that might be why there's a price difference.
@@Brainspoil good point.
how much was the blaster? 20? 25?
@@kirknakano3775 they were $25.00
vid starts at 5:00
This is the first time I saw anyone pull the red dazzlers, and you got one in every tin, so that's pretty impressive
Hey @zeeree . What do you do for the base cards?
They raised the prices cause they know the bedard craziness is coming and people will pay either way... coming series 2
Walmart is selling these tins for $100(with tax), seems a lil excessive. I Literally laughed out loud at the store when I saw this because someone had actually bought one. I would not pay a penny over $45 for that crap lol. I am starting to lose interest in even watching rips/breaks.
Same at my local Wally World funny thing is they were all gone in a day you have to be out of your mind to pay 90$ for a TIN give me a break
What is the meaning of aggressively priced?
Aggressive, in terms of pricing, is essentially a jargon synonym for competitive.
Please UD,hire Zeeree as a product consultant
I always buy at lest one tin but damn the price. At lest they added clear cut..??
If the Hobby box is 125-135 on average. The Tins should be 25-30$ at max.. If we keep buying they will keep fucking us
I feel like distributors in my city are not stocking product to resell the series one.
I opened 3 tins and 2 had 4 ygs. and 1 had 4 ygs and 1 canvas yg.
$90 each at Walmart
Great vids zeeree!! keep up the great work!
I just bought 2 of these because I saw them in Target. The price wasn't listed, I was suprised at the register when they rang up $60 each. I should have waited for Series 2 for a chance at Bedard.
Makes ya sit and think a while. I remember all the pricing you talk about. I must have got lucky with the tins. Followed hobby box config and I got 8 young guns in 2 tins.
Price is silly for only 3 Ygs hopefully goes down rather buy a hobby box and get six YGs but at $150 is crazy thanks for sharing Zeree hope you pull Bedard in series one and Yg or better in series two
Get these at a show or through your LCS, it will be a lot easier on your wallet. I picked up a couple of tins on Nov.1 (release day) for just over the wholesale price (CDN$50) through one of my suppliers.
NFL and NBA cards were about triple for the same 'type' of NHL products..obviously because of supply and demand...but now theyre only double...NHL cards are 33% more expensive than they should be comparitively speaking..
Go through the self check out and put it at the bottom of your bag APU isn't going to root through to see what's beeping
Years ago I used to have a Target store where the vendor never opened the full 24 pack retail boxes, I would take them up to the self checkouts with a $20 blaster and scan the blaster for every full retail box I bought. They finally caught on when the packs sold weren’t matching their quantity.
The tin prices are crazy. I was very lucky with my 1 blaster for the channel. Bedard isn't with the hits or at least wasn't in my packs
To my surprise I got 4 young guns including 1 outburst silver in the larger blasters Walmart has
These tins used to an approachable price point, esp for parents with less money who still want their kids to have a decent card opening experience. The Upperdeck monopoly SUCKS for the hobby.
Zeeree! are there no more big retail boxes with 6 young guns?????????????
series 2 hobby box presale at my local dave and adams is 300 dollars just to not get bedard, lord knows there's times where you need 10-15 boxes to finally pull the it guy, its insanity, how can they do that right off the bat?? I'm quitting, selling my cards and only buying singles and 90s junk wax
Can u get the young guns canvas of Bedard in this series 1.nice video as always. Thks
No, he hadn’t made his debut yet so no Canvas in series 1. Otherwise these would cost even more.
Thats what i thought also . They are way too much overprice .. but still i see them selling good at my local walmart
All of the ones I’ve seen in the US are collecting dust.
Posted odds do not equal a guarantee! Although UD tries to put a YG in every fourth pack, that is not what odds techhnicaly means. The boxes also now say shit happens and if you don't get one - too bad! Buying Tins at this price when Hobby is still reasonable is just insane!!!!!
I got 2 tins , Got a bedard
Typically just open maybe 40 tim hortons packs, and buy the set the year after! I will however be opening a ton of series 2 this year!
Sooo expensive! But it is a cool tin and I do like the dazzler pack personally
The PP Gru Gru pull at 7:07 🤤🤤🤤🤤 great content
I'm done buying series 2. I just started watching people rip packs for the 1st time right after series 2 came out. Didn't watch any series 1 till just now. Kinda like them better & they're way cheaper from what saw at the hobby shop i went to today. I might dive into them. I'm not 100% sure yet.
It's at least 3 ygs per tin. Some have 4. Does a little more value.
Imagine tins for series 2 lmao. They’re gonna be 120$ ez lol
Double that easy. Talks that a hobby box will be 400-500
I pre ordered a case of series 2 tins. I was going to pre order a case of hobby for $2000. Eventually I couldn't find one available. When I did, they wanted over $3000 for the pre order. It wouldn't shock me if series 2 hobby will be around $300 a box.
@@dub1681 yeah i got lucky and managed to snag a case of hobby box for 173$ cad avg per box so around 2000 plus tax but my local card shop stopped taking pre orders (he barely took 5-6) and now is waiting to see what the trend is he told me. Wouldn’t be surprised to see 300$+ a box for sure
I pulled a pink Trevor zegras DAZZLERS
I have seen a few openings of tins and the Bedard was not in the middle you might want to go through all the base you did not show
its cheaper to buy 1 hobby box than 2 retail tins..?!
Wait a year, both formats will go down significantly. You can buy last year series one hobby boxes for $65 US.
Considering what was just pulled, the price point for those tins is absolutely insane. Complete madness . Don't even want to know what series 2 is going to be like. Good grief
Greed ruined the hobby…
Still looking for preds cards
FYI - UD replied to a 0 YG tin on Reddit saying they don’t guarantee any YGs in tins… 😬
At what point will UD just start selling “hit packs”. Spare me all this base. Zeeree could literally heat his home all winter just off the base from upper deck. Epack is kind of that, but it doesn’t give you the same sensation as ripping. Gimme like 3 packs with 3 cards each.
I only collect for base not these naff other cards like Mackinnon photoshopped to look like napoleon 8:40
I bought a tin at walmart for 59 dollars yesterday here in AZ I got three young Guns & I got a decent young Gun in Dustin Wolf. I was overall happy with it I would of rather payed like $30 or 40 but I just wanted to try it. I won’t be buying series 2 to rich for my blood.
Can you even pull bedard???
2 tins not 1 YG for me, UD said possibility of 3 YGS per tin. Bullshit
The late night edits 😂
In the first tin you had better pills than the 160$ us hobby box I opened
Any mail days coming soon zeeree?
Not for a while I’d say
3 YG for $70 or $90… and the best one costs less than the tin. What a joke lol, no wonder I can’t open sh*t without sacrificing food 🤪🤣
Screw the whole “they should be $40 or $50” lol they should be $30 US. I don’t see the appeal, Hobby is the 100% the best choice, I’m not paying an extra $40 for more inserts and retail exclusives lmao
6 Bedard yg have sold on eBay ranging from $550-$600 🤯
No they didn’t
No such thing as a Bedard Young Gun.
@@LetsStormTheTeaCupRide you knew what I meant
The price is absolutely RIDICULOUS
Cmon zeeree i know you mean good and everything youre collection is great but but the prices of this years ud is ridiculous you should comment on that youre opinion matters alot in this community
He did in the beginning stating that these are overpriced.
Umm I pulled the Bedard from a tin, sold it for 740.00
$60 at Walmart
there are 59.99 cad at the smoke shop by my h ouse and i STILL didnt buy em haha
ended up grabbing one for 60, pulled luke hughes yg so not too shabby
So you pay $90 per tin, pull mid YG’s, and a bunch of filler and you’re fine. But you pull retro rookie autos and you lose your shit? This hobby is so backwards
The fact that five to ten years down the road the boxes and tins will be 10x to 20x their retail worth. You are better off buying them and putting them in storage.
For certain years, yes. Especially when the tins were $25 and in some cases $15 on clearance. I bought a ton of 15-16 series 1 and 2 blasters and tins when they came out and they have gone up in value substantially because of McDavid. Even 19-20 you could buy entire tin and blaster cases for less than $200 on close outs and those are going up because of the Hughes boys and Makar. The problem is this years tins will not, they are already too high for and SRP and the Young Guns are all carryovers with limited potential. Series 2 might be worth sitting on for 10 years if Upper Deck doesn’t raise the SRP because of Bedard.
Not sure why you're surprised, were you expecting last years format??
The price is surprising you goof
@elemeno0pee again, you're all surprised??
A McDavid base is worth more than most young guns
Like more Dazzlers, hate the price
They're just getting people used to the price so once Bedard series 2 drops people will already know price.
Aaaanddd its sold out in every retail even with the price increase
If you look at u look at series 1 and spa ,you have like only 20 to 25 % of breaking even or making money,the price of the young guns us way too low for the cost of a hobby box or tin.Its ridiculous.
Spell check is free.
@@scottgunn9978 maybe that english is not my first language and who cares about orthograph mistakes seriously this is a hockey cards channel not a english class channel......
spend $90 a tin or $150 a hobby box in hopes of MAYBE hitting a $65 card (hughes) lol (excluding the rare hits that you're highly unlikely to see).
something aint right with those numbers.
That’s what collectors of baseball, football and basketball have been seeing ever since 2020. Buying $300 hobby boxes and maybe getting $50 at the most in value. Yet they keep buying everything up and will never learn.
@@carolinatarheels7903 yeah its crazy,imagine series 2 for Bedard its gonna be crazy.
Most collectors have to do so vicariously because of prices. It's been a sad death to a hobby for the younger and non professional collectors. 😢
I bought 1 hobby box and 3 single packs. Pulled ridley and 2 luke hughes gonna trade my luke hughes for a matthew knies and I am done with this product. I also wonr be buying series 2 based on rumors of pricing.
200x85 cards in my opinion shouldn’t have goalies. It kind of goes against the name of the card in my opinion🤷♂️
$90 a tin is crazy
10:13
Love zeeree but my experinece with cloutsnchara was horrible. Bad pricing, bad handling of cards, unrealistic randoms, and really hate how they treat cards we pay for even when it's a giant hit. Anyone who doesn't respect the handling of the hobby isn't a breaker for me and how I want my cards cared for.
What a joke of a price
Seeing a Vincent Deharnais card worth $6 encapsulates everything that is wrong with this hobby.
Aha
frick my bone its 23-24 Series 1 Retail
NICEE!!!!!!!
3 Young Guns and I can maybe get a sick BLACK DAZZLER?! Take all of my moneys!
Ahahahaha you sound like Bubbles in 2019.
They won’t go down any time soon
Sure they will, they always do because there is no Bedard in this series and a carryover Young Gun crop. I’m still buying 21-22 all series for $10 a blaster at Target and the vendor keeps bringing more to the shelves.
@@carolinatarheels7903 nope
I have your uncle Tod pach card
Yey
I'm out on hockey cards. Ridiculous.
What is series 2 gonna go for a tin? $150 lol
the box filler insert is so on the nose
Ud will lose alot of customers when season ends way to expensive the packs are really overpriced.
Tell that to Panini and Fanatics that are laughing all the way to the bank because cards are like drugs and people will pay anything to get their fix.
Those prices are hostile lol damn
$90 for THIS? Good god this hobby is getting out of control.
Series 2 went from $200 to almost $300 just to hit a Bedard rookie that's sickening
I'm just guessing but I think the tins are overpriced
Good bye upper deck, your retail products have ruined your name and reputation. You've lost another customer for life. Getting outta the hobby because of all the vultures
Dont buy any of these lol upper deck will be forced to drop prices lol
I'm out. I'm all the way out. I'll sit on the cards I got from my hockey card binge the last two years. But I'm out (Canadian accent).
Please nobody buy these so they won’t try to charge these ridiculous prices again
Stop giving them money
Hard pass. Insanely overpriced for something that's diluted with junk parallels and inserts
first!!!
And idiots will keep buying them .